Some commenters have noted that Celerity and Bottomless Grief do not work solo any more - thanks for this update! Fortunately, I don't think either perk is particularly groundbreaking either way, but that's something to consider!
@HighFiveGhostenjoyer428 Жыл бұрын
I just noticed onslaught is not one here
@Narfwak Жыл бұрын
Alacrity (the origin trait) works solo, Celerity (the old perk that doesn't get issued anymore) does not. Pretty sure that's what you meant to write, just wanted to clarify.
@max73916 Жыл бұрын
@@Narfwakyeah i think he knows prolly just a typo cus in the origin trait video he talked about alacrity working solo
@MineralMan105 Жыл бұрын
@@HighFiveGhostenjoyer428 Most of the Pinnacle Weapon perks aren't listed unless they've been reissued. I believe Reversal of Fortune is the only one he listed. Other ones that weren't listed: Magnificent Howl, Micro-Missile, Master of Arms, Archer's Gambit, and Meganeura
@ERFMXVCC Жыл бұрын
A time traveler from 2020 be like "Wait you guys don't take vorpal weapon on every single power weapon?"
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@zziizii_5056 Жыл бұрын
Time traveler from 2018: “Cluster bomb rockets aren’t meta anymore?”
@HighFiveGhostenjoyer428 Жыл бұрын
"Wait, you don't use outlaw and rampage on your primaries?".
@lucienmoolman8017 Жыл бұрын
@@zziizii_5056 Time traveler from 2017: "what are special fusion rifles?"
Envious is more ambitious, leaving Ambitious envious of Envious.
@EnKayNem Жыл бұрын
@@Blahblahblaafmn lmao
@miltonpearson7325 Жыл бұрын
@@TheAegisRelicyounger brother since it came out after 😂
@yellllop9082 Жыл бұрын
it depends on whether the weapon is an adclear weapon or a dmg weapon
@ERFMXVCC Жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining your thoughts. You're absolutely bringing tons of resources to the the community that we simply didn't have before, and it shows. I've already seen discussions that are renewed by the information you've put out, whether it be your DPS spreadsheet or these ranking videos. I'm very very happy to hear that you want to keep these resources updated as well. Mad props to you for all the work you've done and all the great work I'm sure you'll continue to do.
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Appreciate your words!
@ERFMXVCC Жыл бұрын
@@TheAegisRelic and Thank you for your work!
@cc_par Жыл бұрын
Btw gutshot straight is coded to work on white damage numbers, and can roll in the third column occasionally. Just saying, Gutshot Straight + Controlled Burst on a fusion might be insane in the future.
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Could be powerful but I doubt Bungie would do that
@RookieTH3Cookie11 ай бұрын
I got a explosive payload + gutshot, not a huge incrrase but funny interation
@notaisnot11 ай бұрын
@@RookieTH3Cookieoh yeah the guardian games scout rifle 😊
@Joaquin-rd3km8 ай бұрын
They're obviously never making a non precision weapon with gutshot straight lol.
@scottricks16764 ай бұрын
Whoa nice! Is guy shot on any fusions atm?
@justinwilliams1699 Жыл бұрын
Aegis dropping a 2+ hour video on my birthday truly a W b-day
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
:D
@joshuaowens5706 ай бұрын
Man I can tell you put a bunch of work into this video. I appreciate your time and effort with such a detailed breakdown.
@Whats_Up_Dot Жыл бұрын
it's amazing how much we think alike lol. both eager edge and shoot to loot are my personal favorite perks for the kinds of gameplay patterns they open up and just how *fun* they feel. the only placement I disagree with is collective action: ionic traces do not have an internal cooldown, and they track to your position, so as long as you play an arc subclass you'll have a near constant 20% uptime for literally no effort (since you'll be making ionic traces naturally anyway). because this only applies to arc subclasses that does limit its usability a bit, but I don't think it should go below C tier. other than that I agree with the rest of the list pretty much perk for perk, it closely mirrors my in game experience as always, your content is phenomenal! keep up the good work (after giving your voice a break lmao)
@ReeseYcc9 ай бұрын
As a person that has a hard time understanding the perk system you definitely came in clutch with this one thank you so much ❤
@topesimoes Жыл бұрын
14:00 From what I remember, Bottomless Grief only proccs if you're the last fireteam member alive, not even running solo. And don't remember if that was patched or not, but if it wasn't it probably should be in the F tier
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing this out!
@jamieharper10517 ай бұрын
as long you are with a teammates can be in a 2 or 3 team when that last guardian stand is seen this kicks in
@YoursadowTTV Жыл бұрын
If you weren't aware, Deadpan Delivery is an aggressive frame sg with discord and frenzy trench or collective action
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Not bad, but imo it's still best on Supremacy - if we ever get it on a better fusion than Pressurized or a GL of some sort, I think it'll be very potent
@YoursadowTTV Жыл бұрын
Fair and probably true, I've never tried discord out even though it seems useful, i just liked your idea of double special fueled by discord to go infinite in theory and wanted to see what could roll with it. GL and Fusion would be an amazing discord combo
@coreypark3244 Жыл бұрын
@@YoursadowTTVdiscord is pretty sweet - i was messing around with a mf last man standing lol with discord subsistence. sub was useless, but discord was enough that the shotgun was still fun to use
@Evan.13239 Жыл бұрын
One bit of feedback I have is your point about Tireless Blade. I think you may have misread the perk description and as a result you misunderstood how it works. Tireless blade will provide 1 sword ammo for every other sword kill. There is no time limit between these kills, and the kill counter does not reset when the sword is stowed. This makes it almost possible to use a sword as a primary in Stronghold builds if you want to mess around with them in a GM or something. Something else that probably won’t change the tiering, but is cool to think about. Gutshot Straight specifically just buffs any and all non-precision damage coming from the gun. This means that all of the explosion perks benefit from it, and technically the gun will do 20% more damage to stasis crystals and can give a 20% buff to Headstone’s damage output. If Gutshot ever finds itself in the left column of a Headstone bow it’ll be pretty interesting in conjunction with Whisper of Rending since the perk crystals can freeze enemies and count as primary weapon damage when destroyed.
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm fully aware but if any enemy takes more than one swing to kill that's ~= to Relentless and Relentless can be used on larger enemies as well
@RTB1400 Жыл бұрын
Stoked to see 1-2 punch hit the S tier. I have a blast with melee builds. I'm new to the channel so maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen in 1-2 punch dmg rotations in the other videos. _(I haven't finished the awesome 7+ part series yet so maybe it's in there)._ I remember seeing lots of dungeon boss solo's using hunter and titan 1-2 punch loadouts in past seasons. I'm very interested to see how they stack up to the mid-tier (ex. Acrius) of raid dmg loadouts. Thanks in advance to the comments section for help, and thanks to Aegis for adding best-in-class content to the incredible niche Imagine and Prelapse got me hooked on.
@ashleylongley16286 ай бұрын
I respect you clarifying that it’s it decisive. Doesn’t make me feel as bad for liking less popular perks.
@RH1N082 Жыл бұрын
Regarding the Discord perk, two special weapons that can roll with it are Pressurized Precision (Iron Banner strand fusion rifle), and Last Man Standing (aggressive solar shotty, which you can focus at the Sonar Station table in the HELM). I think there's also a world drop sniper rifle that can roll with it, but can't remember which one.
@vegancardigan Жыл бұрын
Locus locutus is the sniper, the only thing i used it for is doing challenges or bounties, i have like 4 of them with discord gravestone, man i wish i got the lms shotgun, i want to do the infinite shotgun titan build so bad
@RH1N082 Жыл бұрын
@@vegancardigan You can still go to the Sonar Station table to focus em. Or, if you don't have any of the engrams, you can bang your head doing salvage/deep dives to get some lol.
@leekuchczynski8 Жыл бұрын
You can get it on deadpan delivery as well
@abagofT10 ай бұрын
Last Foray is the world drop sniper
@roundraccoon6141 Жыл бұрын
Danger zone has one use that could bump it up a tier. It buffs disorienting grenades radius. Although disorienting grenades is not meta it is still quite a good effect for various underleveled content. Very good tier list
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
I tried to test if this actually works and I'm still not sure, if it's verified I think it can move up
@ya-cv8jg Жыл бұрын
No, it doesn’t. It literally shows up in stats that it doesn’t. Also, it was tested countless times. Blinding gls have 0 radius by default.
@voxling Жыл бұрын
@@ya-cv8jgblinding gls have 0 splash damage radius by default. This is replaced by a blind/stun aoe effect my guy. And since that effect is separate it does not show on stats. The statement is that danger zone increases the cc aoe. Wich would NOT show in stats. Now I don't know if this works. But you refering to stats for this shows that you also have no clue on how it works. So don't spread misinformation. Or you have tested it and can show the effect. In wich case please show proof instead
@roundraccoon6141 Жыл бұрын
@@ya-cv8jg KZbin won't let me post any links or something since it keeps deleting my comment, but there are many sources that are in favor of the interaction. I found 9 post on destinythegame on Reddit and 2 KZbin videos. Like the other guy said have sources to back up your claim or show proof, stop spreading misinformation.
@ya-cv8jg Жыл бұрын
@@TheAegisRelic I heard from some guys that it's an urban myth, and I tested it myself with Pardon and Prodigal Return with DZ. I couldn't notice any difference in the cc radius.
@paul2725 Жыл бұрын
new video letsgooooo! cant wait to see you rank 80% of the perks in F tier :D
@Tobizard1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all these tier lists man. They're so helpful and interesting. Appreciate the work
@ahawkone8850 Жыл бұрын
A note on the Threadling perk. Threadlings created by the weapon that get kills, count as weapon kills with that weapon. This isn't exactly something that would be super helpful most of the time, but it is something I found out while leveling up my Round Robin for PVP back in the day, before the changes to weapon leveling. A Subsistence Threadling combo on that or on Volta Bracket (again, was leveling it for PVP) really helped speed up the process. I wouldn't change the ranking you gave it though. I am just saying it's a neat quirk of the perk.
@conbawn Жыл бұрын
demo hatchling slaps
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Yeah this is typical of splash effect-type perks, thanks for your input!
@harbinger7976 Жыл бұрын
Excellent tier list! I like how high you ranked Eager Edge. To me, it's like the closest thing to making a pinnacle weapon
@Aura6036411 ай бұрын
Ikr
@ERFMXVCC11 ай бұрын
Rewatching this video and noticed that Aegis makes the sound that Composite Propellant x5 on Dragon's Breath makes at 1:41:53
@TheAegisRelic11 ай бұрын
O_O
@ERFMXVCC Жыл бұрын
Oh good lord this is gonna take several rewatches to be able to absorb all the info
@zepplin- Жыл бұрын
Love the content, what I would love is this a rolling tier list, e.g as the sand box changes rather than doing all of the perks again, just highlight the changes / new additions
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
That's the plan! Like a tier shift patch
@ClockworkBlade Жыл бұрын
Osmosis is actually kinda useful for synergizing with subclass fragments that give you unraveling rounds, destabilizing rounds, etc, it allows you to use one weapon you really like or are comfortable with without sacrificing synergy. But Yeaaaaa a it's niche at best. I think the main weapon I still use it on is specifically traveler's chosen.
@DPantherful1 Жыл бұрын
I have a personal sidequest going on, where I try to have in my vault every weapon type that can roll Osmosis, so I have one for every artifact weapon type to use on my Warlock for Verity grenade builds. So far I have: Sidearm: Traveler's Chosen (of course) Submachine Gun: Escape Velocity (Dares of Eternity) Auto Rifle: Lodbrok-C (World/ Banshee) Hand Cannon: Pure Poetry (Vanguard Playlist) Machine Gun: Chain of Command (Ritual/ Pursuit/ of course) Osmosis fun facts: There are 38 weapons with the perk in the entire game (according to D2 Foundry, if you count sunset and adept weapons and not count Traveler's Chosen); 0 of them (currently) are Bows; 5 of them are Snipers, 3 are sniper raid weapons; 1 on a scout rifle currently obtainable (Servant Leader, Gambit); And Chain of Command is the only heavy that has it. Weapons that can get the Osmosis/Ad. Junkie roll: Lodbrok-C, Fatebringer, Praedyth's Revenge Weapons that can get the Osmosis/ Demo roll: Defiance of Yasmin, Succession, C.o.C, Fortissimo-11, The Last Breath, Judgment
@ClockworkBlade Жыл бұрын
@@DPantherful1 I've got Traveler's, a hand cannon, a smg and two auto rifles with osmosis (don't ask names, I barely remember my name let alone a weapon name beyond Traveler's Chosen). I covered all my favorite weapons with having at least one Osmosis weapon. But I'm glad to know I'm not the only Osmosis lover!
@Poopi_Culio9 ай бұрын
I knew i wasn't crazy for thinking incandescent was overrated
@bradpoynter1776 Жыл бұрын
Great vid aegis, took me several watch sessions to get through it, but enjoyed your perspective on these perks and the effort you’ve put in, looking forward to more vids
@gabrieltorres6633 Жыл бұрын
Collective action is really great on arc classes where ionic traces are abundant. You also don't need to match classes for to get the benefits.
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
It's not bad but the damage bonus isn't high enough for a non passive perk imo
@gabrieltorres6633 Жыл бұрын
@TheAegisRelic understandable, and the weapons it falls on don't really help. If it was in the third column for nation of beast, it would be amazing but it's just okay.
@robmarney Жыл бұрын
Surprised to see One For All @1:24:34 ranked so low. It's incredible on primary weapons, which can easily tag multiple enemies and not kill them. An auto rifle gets a lot more value from OFA than Killing Tally, Sword Logic, Firefly or even Frenzy.
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Personally I don't think using a primary to tag three enemies to get a primary ammo damage boost is particularly noteworthy, OFA is best on LMGs imo
@michaeljoiner8972 Жыл бұрын
OFA and Rewind rounds on my corrective measure lowkey cracked
@amorfati4927 Жыл бұрын
The idea is great and it’s really not a bad perk. The problem is that it’s just not needed. Truth be told… unless it helps with big Target damage/DPS it has basically no purpose in the current game. Abilities are all you need to infinite spam to kill most things in the game.
@joshuaandrachek492 Жыл бұрын
One for all is SO easy to proc with armor piercing rounds or explosive payload (doom of chelchis). Alternatively just using it on an auto rifle is easy to proc. I would definitely put it in A tier at least as it is SO good in endgame content.
@cykeok3525 Жыл бұрын
Massive undertaking here, very impressive work.
@Bakedbeans87 Жыл бұрын
Idk why I can just watch this guy for hours
@vibeman7484 Жыл бұрын
blunt execution rounds getting ranked 117th gave me a chuckle
@drayreign0391 Жыл бұрын
Bottomless grief and celarity don't work solo, they both have a passive perk but they only fully work when the rest of your fire team is dead
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight! Made a pinned comment :P
@IronLrdVader9 ай бұрын
This is the video I have been waiting for. I have sent this to every Destiny player I know.
@griqs Жыл бұрын
I've noticed clown cartridge also "takes away" reserves in effect bc of its trait whereas bipod obviously doesn't but they can do similar jobs
@Lonzology Жыл бұрын
FINALLLY SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS JUST HOW GOOD FRENZY is. So sick and tired of seeing people sleep on the perk. The perks amazing and its down right broken if you have the right build in pvp.
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
While this is a PvE list, I appreciate your enthusiasm :)
@AllalAllala-p7m Жыл бұрын
This is the best perk tier list I ever watched
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@zyeagerzz Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video TheAegisRelic now i have truly become destiny
@sydious_s_snake Жыл бұрын
Eager edge my beloved, placed where you deserve, unaffected by harsh judgement from lacking DPS and damage functionality
@robobobum Жыл бұрын
If you don't love shoot to loot, you don't know destiny.
@quaidok Жыл бұрын
he did not cook with the new thumbnail
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
It's fire don't cap
@quaidok Жыл бұрын
@@TheAegisRelic you made bns and rampage go off the boarder your ass is not pablo picasso why are you getting all abstract with it
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Quirky with it
@genos25457 ай бұрын
I love overflow now because of mountaintop. That extra shot with the recombo shot just cleans stuff up if the first shot doesn’t kill it lol
@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX Жыл бұрын
I’ve underestimated demolitionist on primaries for a long time. I have Unforgiven with demo/frenzy and that paired with Contraverse Hold gives insane grenade spam. Now I use Unforgiven more than Funnelweb.
@eucanlikdis Жыл бұрын
Golden tricorn on the swarm is nice. Arc lock or Titan is a hybrid ad-clear and boss killer , add the adept big ones spec= profit
@Green_Sentinel_3 Жыл бұрын
Arc hunter with gathering storm works too.
@Koshmar-13 Жыл бұрын
I gotta say, you were way more generous to Incandescent and especially Destabilizing rounds than I would of been.
@EnigmacTheFirst Жыл бұрын
Bungie did destabilizing rounds dirty. It has a cooldown, but incandescent doesn't.
@donalddavis303 Жыл бұрын
It didn't use to but they added it during season of the seraph
@EnigmacTheFirst it used to melt raid bosses due to a seasonal perk interaction giving a boost to destabilizing rounds
@EnigmacTheFirst Жыл бұрын
@@donalddavis303 Destabilizing rounds wasn't a thing during Seraph. It didn't come till Lightfall. You're thinking about volatile rounds.
@MAOSAMAN4 ай бұрын
put gameplay in the background next time plz. Ik that for something like this that is a huge undertaking, but I believe that this would amplify this video so much more. You obviously know what your talking about
@TheAegisRelic4 ай бұрын
Yeah it's rough getting background footage for this much video but I try these days
@EnKayNem Жыл бұрын
Idea: favorite GM builds for each class, or even for each subclass. potentially even intricate details I know many other youtubers try to make videos like these, but I feel it'd be better here for sure, focused on high end performance and wahtnot
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Planning on it at some point
@jklew9486 Жыл бұрын
Yeah even beyond this. Maybe I'm alone in thinking this but. Everytime I see someone changing shit around during a speed run I always pause and look at what they are changing to and from. And I'm super interested in what they are doing but have no real clue how to figure it out besides that. Maybe break down some stuff you aren't currently working on. So not to give away any original processes. I'd say older runs maybe but idk how interested others would be in that I may be alone. Find it fascinating
@MrTimothydclark Жыл бұрын
Repulsor Brace is *great* on Warlock with Briarbinds - your targets are always debuffed by the child.
@SavanBerryАй бұрын
Why 'Heal Clip' in E Tier.? If the perk Heals you for 80 hp when you defeat any enemy and then reloads
@TheAegisRelicАй бұрын
This was pre Heal Clip buff to Cure x2 and I've updated the list like 3 times since this video (new version coming soon)
@largegroupofmales7 ай бұрын
getting back into d2 after quitting in late 2021 and am absolutely melting my brain with your info overload vids, thank you for the content
@aqn8756 Жыл бұрын
As you said about the cascade point grenade launchers, I’ve got a heavy gl with cascade envious and it is insane, although I end up killing myself with it much more than any other weapon, often because of how fast it fires. Still does insane dps though.
@Based_Shogun10 ай бұрын
Great list! Thanks for going over all these. I always learn something from your testing and thoughts. I do, however take great exception with a few. Firing line is a dead perk, and is too situational for a small damage buff. Should be much lower. Kinetic Tremors, Tricorn, and Explosive rounds are right up there with Frenzy for the best perks on primaries in the game IMHO. Headstone has AMAZING synergy with Stasis, from reducing your damage to buffing your damage, to debuffing enemies near the effect, to giving your abilities back after shattering, to giving you weapon damage after collecting crystals, to stunning champs etc. Lastly, Disruption Break is situational, but VERY strong with paired with Izzy, Witherhoard, etc. Chill Clip is super strong in general for it's Stasis synergy, beyond champs. Best perk for Stasis weapons considering it's easy and just free slow as well.
@TheAegisRelic10 ай бұрын
Firing Line is still used on 140 snipers and is an okay perk for damage Frenzy is more universal and does two jobs, those perks do one Stasis isn't really great right now and other 3.0 perks do a better job without relying on Stasis synergy to have good splash potential Disruption Break is situational and still not very strong when paired with those weapons, as most high health targets do not have shields Chill Clip is really just for overloads in endgame PvE
@videogamevixenn5235 Жыл бұрын
I've been looking for a video about this forever! Thank you ❤
@jakubbercik696511 ай бұрын
The big problem I have with Hatchling is that if you shoot, let's say, the RoN GL with Hatchling + chain reaction into a group of 10 enemies, it'll STILL only create 1. It's actually pitiful lmao.
@ExpertRam Жыл бұрын
Bxr perk might’ve had some potential if DoT stuff from melees could re-proc the perk but I don’t think that’s the case. Also firing line can technically proc in solo PvE with NPC allies but unfortunately only comes up in like 2 missions and one lost sector on Europa
@hahayay1086 Жыл бұрын
bxr with blunt on foetracer hunter goes hard lowkey
@WakingDreams34 Жыл бұрын
i hope we get a fusion with backup plan + controlled burst in the future. its 3rd column on midhas so its not off the table
@Josh-ko6su7 ай бұрын
you talk in 1.5x speed and it’s so great
@dark_taco Жыл бұрын
I feel like *one for all* is way less gimmicky than *bait and switch* people just don't care cause BAS is more reliable for boss dps 😂 great video brother MASSIVE undertaking excited for more content 😎👊🏿
@RoyaltonDrummer9225 ай бұрын
One for All makes no sense on any heavy besides machine guns. Are you really going to waste precious rockets or LFR shots on adds? No. That’s what Bait and Switch is for
@ZeddMT2 Жыл бұрын
i had to hold a 90 min presentation today and my voice is absolutely fucked how did you even make it through this
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
It was a struggle for sure
@ZeddMT2 Жыл бұрын
@@TheAegisRelic your sacrifices are much appreciated
@voidwalker9939 Жыл бұрын
Hatchling has to be considered as a longer auto-targeting Incandescent. You get a kill and a threadling spaws and tracks to enemies. If an enemy is out of range Incandescent is useless. Threat detector / Hatchlings immortal is a good combo. Cold steel would be incredible on glaives. Militia's Birthright is the best blinding gl in the game with Slideways + Auto: If you need a single wave to be blind you shoot then swap to kill, autoloading reloads. If you need two doors blinded? Shoot->Slide->Shoot->Stow and autoloading reloads. You need 3 waves blinded? Shoot->Slide->Shoot->Stow->Autoloading->Shoot->Slide->Shoot... If you don't go at max fire rate, which is most of the time, you have enough time between slides that the perk goes off cooldown. The point is you need to be involved only for the amount of time you need and you don't have to bother to reload it or wait every time. My all purpose GM build: Militia's Birthright + Le Monarque + Corrective Measure (Timelost) with Demo/Firefly and Contraverse Voidlock, never failed me and it's not the boring (but I admit, efficient) rocket spam. Blunt Execution Rounds is better than you think if you treat it like a "reverse 1-2P", you melee then shoot and if you get good the effective range of your melee build expands. I have a Pugilist+Blunt Execution Rounds BxR that I use on my hammer Titan. Note that since the BxR has insane hipfire you don't even need to aim down the burst. The best scenario for this combo is majors that don't go down with a single hammer and you need that extra damage to finish them: longer range mini-hammer + Blunt Exec burst is good damage for no Special ammo. I also used it in a Caliban build on the hunter. I wish (I'm coping) they changed Shattered Blade to some insane damage buff (like Blunt Execution) with the same triggers and I can see a build that constantly adds a couple of ammunitions (between Aeon an Cenotaph) to always have a super-powered last hit sword. Stats for All + One for All is VERY good, but if you divide the perks they aren't that stellar, the problem is that the combo either appers on shit weapons (The Title smg for example) or off-meta choices (Insidious from VotD). I wish Celerity and Bottomless Grief worked solo, unfortunately they never did, apart from a period when there was a bug; truly a wasted perk design that could have shaken the solo meta at least
@voidwalker9939 Жыл бұрын
I didn't even add it to the comment, but the quality of insights on weapons in the video is top of the class, as usual
@MrLongshotbob Жыл бұрын
Wanted to clarify, There's an aggressive shotgun with Discord and Subsistence You didn't get this wrong I just think people might forget, Threat Detector is ready/stow speed *and* ads speed. Opinion part: A slightly nerfed Compulsive Reloader would be a good origin trait. For Sword Logic, depending on the content, there are sometimes enemies that are mid way through that count as bosses. Kill a champ and have a near infinite 35% damage buff? Ceno teammate and you have a sword logic MG, kill a champ and nothing will stand in your way. One thing to note about Under-Over is it's increase to enemy overshields unlike Adaptive Munitions, like Lucent Moths and Shadow Cabal. It's passive and doesn't require build up, which could allow for one-shoting certain things. It probably deserves it's place, but something to think about. My guy, take a break, you don't have to go the entire 2 hours without a break.
@Damian-1701 Жыл бұрын
There actually is an origin trait that is essentially a nerfed version of compulsive reloader. Omolon fluid dynamics on Omolon weapons grants increased reload speed and also stability while above 50% magazine. The amount of reload speed is much lower, of course, but the stability is really nice for weapons like Ammit.
@cc_par Жыл бұрын
holy fuck THANK god someone is addressing the fact that adaptive munititions is actually a really good perk for anti-barrier. I been using New Purpose for every season with anti-barrier pulse and it legitimately two bursts a full GM champion shield from any range. Normal pulse would be like 6.5 burst
@gk8533 Жыл бұрын
Good video, not much complaints, i like how you didn't put too much emphasis on speed running(,like the other tier list) which is a fraction of end game. Edit: Shoot to loot over Recon is a sin
@infinitedeath1384 Жыл бұрын
As someone who isnt a speedrunner but enjoys eager edge anyway, especially with shatter and well skating, i agree with your s tier pick. I wouldnt put it anywhere else.
@sudbuddiesexteriordetailin9843 Жыл бұрын
Watched to whole vid. It made me want to research what weapons im using that I can switch, to get me combos of these perks that are S and A tier for endgame. Itd be sick if you shared your weapon loadouts for each activity. Or maybe a video where you share your top 25 weapons. That way we can set up some builds and be a better asset to end game we join.
@SKITTERYCOMA737 Жыл бұрын
Dude i love these I listen to them at work! Thank you. Im just a solo tryhard bro but this helps me a ton thanks Man
@TreadWalkin Жыл бұрын
This is super useful! Although, in my opinion, I think it would have been better to make videos for each weapon type perk list instead all of them together.
@animalcrossingcharacter_ex971711 ай бұрын
they should make a shotgun version of eager edge that pushes you in the opposite direction that you shoot in
@TheAegisRelic11 ай бұрын
Like a reverse Tractor? Lol
@steveheist64264 ай бұрын
BXR has earned it's spot, but if ever it shows up on a shotgun with One-Two Punch in the other column, it would one hundred percent escape the F tier.
@lucienmoolman8017 Жыл бұрын
Till this day I still don't know the difference between ambitious assassin and envious assassin
@flopre9213 Жыл бұрын
Ambitious is kill + reload, envious gives u overflow when u get kills with other guns
@theonlymadmax Жыл бұрын
Ambitious: Kills with same weapon overflows mag Envious: Kills with another weapon overflows mag
@QuillC Жыл бұрын
Ambitious needs reload, envious doesn't
@sdot7895 Жыл бұрын
Bro your videos are great keep ‘em coming
@rosecoloredboi1849 Жыл бұрын
This video is gonna be great to use as background noise
@sourg_rage11 ай бұрын
perks where I disagree with ranking: - explosive head higher than typical damage or aoe perks, like rampage or dragonfly. IMO it is overrated on bows with giving around ~10% more dmg on crits, and having dragonfly or something like rampage is more preferred to me than this perk. - explosive light being in B - it is worse than BnS only for boss DPS, but there are many other scenarios, e.g. GMs where you just want to have bigger burst on rocket or gl to kill some high-health target quickly. - cascade point is overrated. it is interesting DPS increase, but very situational and doesn't deserve to be that high, IMO - kinetic tremors being so high. it is good on supremacy, but on all other weapons it takes quite a while to proc. still good, but not that high - subsistence being so high - the more tankier enemies, less useful it is, so only really good on machine guns. - stats for all being so low - while its benefits are not very high, it is very noticeable when it procs, especially paired with OfA - headstone being so low - if I need pick stasis primary, I gravitate towards headstone, its AoE damage is pretty nice. Even better on stasis subclass, where you get cover, overshield and nade recharge rate for it - rampage being lower than AJ, swash and several tiers lower than killing tally? - it takes less kills to ramp up. killing tally is overrated - full court being so high - who uses it today? - outlaw in D, while enlightened action in C? - it gives both reload and reload multiplier for so little work.
@TheAegisRelic11 ай бұрын
This is an endgame tier list so the majority of your notes don't really apply, as for the other stuff: - EL is worse than Bipod in GMs - KT/Cascade might move lower but I think they are quite underrated - Subsistence as a perk itself is pretty good, it's just not great on some weapons - I personally don't think SFA is good in endgame because it's not refreshable and needing to shoot three enemies to get just an okay reload/handling boost is a lot worse than something like Frenzy - Headstone is a tad overrated and stasis is pretty weak rn - KT is literally Rampage except infinite duration huh (also they both take 3 kills to fully ramp) - C tier is high? It's next to 3 other damage perks that have similar viability
@drakusmero104 Жыл бұрын
Disruption Break would be so great if we had just one kinetic power weapon. I wouldn't even care if it was an MG, I'd still try to make it meta
@slimjong-un5743 Жыл бұрын
I wouldnt sweat negative feedback on exotic armor tierlists. I saw mostly positive feedback and there is no tier list that exists that everyone agrees on. We still need ppl to take the hit and put opinions out tho
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mabaxb Жыл бұрын
Micro-missile is the best perk in the game.
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
What the
@zeik101 Жыл бұрын
Energy Transfer is actually pretty great with strongholds and the suspending barricade tbh. Fun in GMs
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's not bad, just wish it wasn't class ability only
@zeik101 Жыл бұрын
@@TheAegisRelic I do have a funny pvp clip with it I think you might enjoy though lmao kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2TLh5yFd9mYmaMsi=izEaND2ROQd_wueb
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Banger
@patacueja Жыл бұрын
Figured I would comment on this, but if you're using unstop fusion, chill clip will NOT work on overloads~
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
This is not true as Chill Clip applies a 3.0 effect to the enemy itself (Slow stacks) unlike Radiant which modifies your weapon, just to make sure I tested this in Bunker E15's first champ today and it definitely works with Unstoppable Fusion equipped
@timcal2136 Жыл бұрын
I think Bungie eased us into the Chill Clip a bit by giving us Unstop fusions this season to replicate the previous usage. The nerf is gonna be felt a lot more next season if we dont have Unstop fusions again. Also, to add to your point, i believe only Unforgiven gets the demo/golden tricorn roll, which is the only reason why it’s even a usable smg with those embarrassingly bad stats. If an 900rpm SMG with even decent stats gets that pairing, it would easily surpass Funnelweb
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Demo Frenzy better than Tricorn imo
@timcal2136 Жыл бұрын
@@TheAegisRelic oh for sure, i just forgot it got frenzy too lmao
@avskvm Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this one
@hydractra Жыл бұрын
I think that symapthetic arsenal could be moved up quite a bit, either towards the top of D tier, or even at the bottom of C tier. It effectively grants a pseudo rain of fire effect, which can be great for speedrunning on non-solarlock
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Yeah it does but it's a little more annoying to use
@cur1ous238 Жыл бұрын
It's the best on a bow. Maybe in combination with a bait and switch heavy
@allahallah123 Жыл бұрын
finally finished. feels like frodo after the ring was destroyed in mount doom.
@GrandmaDestiny Жыл бұрын
Glad your Shardit matches mine! Yet, always remember folks use PS4 still....
@Green_Sentinel_3 Жыл бұрын
A niche use for osmosis is the Lodbrok-C with the roll of osmosis & adrenaline junkie to take advantage of a surge modifier.
@gabrieltorres6633 Жыл бұрын
You already take advantage of the overcharged modifier if you run a subclass that matches the surge. Not to mention the 10% free damage for being a kinetic weapon
@BarelyFunctional69 Жыл бұрын
@32:30 i have a pressurized precision with discord + vorpal, feels really strong, love that combo
@duskflames Жыл бұрын
Rank every barrel for endgame pve
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Fluted >
@duskflames Жыл бұрын
@@TheAegisRelic my man
@HighFiveGhostenjoyer428 Жыл бұрын
True
@duskflames Жыл бұрын
@qqq6535 I feel like you could make the argument for arrowhead for controller users. But if a weapons recoil is a non-issue then yeah fluted is probably better
@HighFiveGhostenjoyer428 Жыл бұрын
@@duskflames Whichever one gives it the most handling
@InfernoPhilM Жыл бұрын
I’m reload intolerant. It’s terminal.
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Hahahah
@scottbrayton9484 Жыл бұрын
Field prep bipod is a goat'd combination for a general use rocket
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Yeah pretty nice
@nathan9814 Жыл бұрын
Hey, just some thoughts on replenishing aegis. In GMs it is very nice for getting revives, since you can get the energy while moving up to and from the res which is a point over immoveable. Also, I feel glaives are quite ammo efficient so using up that extra few shots isnt that bad. I pretty much only use glaives in GMs when unstop glaive is around so I havent used it a whole lot, maybe I havent experienced the bad sides enough. But great video and I appreciate that your youtuber who doesnt go mental with clickbait and just delivers great content :)
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
I'm ngl I struggled to find a place where I needed the extra +mag time from Replenishing
@nathan9814 Жыл бұрын
@@TheAegisRelic this was mostly in the psiops battleground GM where people would get caught out in the boss room by a super trying to get a spear, but I guess that is kinda niche
@topesimoes Жыл бұрын
Holy shit, a two hour long vídeo... Let's grab some popcorn 🍿 and beverage 🍷 shall we 🗿🍷
@Oliver-yu7nt Жыл бұрын
Are you gonna do primary ammo weapons? I’ve been able to free up a lot of vault through hearing the hard truth about what’s actually end game viable (or what’s actually good) for special and heavy weapons, and while this video has definitely helped a lot, wrapping it up, or just your thoughts on primary weapon archetypes and types (like best pulse archetype, or pulses are actually trash and an smg is better type of thing), would be awesome if
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Yeah probably kinda soon
@silentib1534 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Aegis is too low, he - or it - should be higher! All jokes aside I will say Replenishing Aegis is really best on Vexcal, where keeping the shield held for overshield regen is the optimal gameplay loop. Even so, having the ability to shield for extremely long periods of time is honestly kinda cracked in a meta where most strong endgame enemies will melt you. It does burn through ammo, yes, but it also lets you do something that no other perk can do: A solid 2 or 3 mins straight of glaive shielding. It's also good for scenarios with short bursts of blocking as well, as it just lets you skip reloading entirely on a weapon archetype known for very cumbersome reloads. Although with the coming glaive rework, most glaive perks are going to be shifted around. In particular the buff coming to the glaive's projectile damage could lean its perk pool in favor of more projectile related perks.
@skyking3210 Жыл бұрын
I watched like 90 percent of this, i feel like you own me money LOL, great effort. Still can't let you have STL 🤣
@Bugnight Жыл бұрын
I’ll say this about the upcoming tier seasonal tier list changes. I’m hoping you make in a short type content or just combine all the seasonal changes into one video
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Will do yeah
@jamieharper10517 ай бұрын
Adagio on a shotgun is nice in pvp especially if it a slug . Shotguns are about single shot so if that single shot is stronger the better
@TheAegisRelic7 ай бұрын
PvE list
@navy.45 Жыл бұрын
In a perfect world world I would say you're somebody that should be at bungie because this is incredible work, but I'd be suggesting something far beneath you. If you have a future in game dev I would play anything you create as far as weapons and abilities go. Top tier.
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words!
@deancolvin3374 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant mate, thank you!
@Lonzology Жыл бұрын
I would say Cold steel should be ranked higher than Adaptive munitions. Its the only time where you can bring a sword that isn't lament into an activity when a seasonal mod for swords isn't available. There's like no point using Adaptive munitions nowdays. I'll also say Headstone would be higher than dragon fly. Simply because it is the only perk in the game that can provide a cover from thin air and grants any user with stasis free damage reduction, on top of that it can stun champions who happen to be near the targeted enemy by simply freezing them or shattering the crystal. It's a niche use but it has more effects than many people know it does.
@KakamileRS Жыл бұрын
how often do you sword a champ tho? Like in Mars if champ got that close you've failed.
@Lonzology Жыл бұрын
@@KakamileRS same question could be asked how often do u use a primary to break shielded combatants that isnt an exotic? One stuns/ freezes champs on command the other just breaks shields that could easily be broken with any weapon or ability. Cold Steel just has far more benefits than adaptive munitions does. A single swipe stuns an overload, a heavy attack freezes and stuns a unstop, and if timed correctly after damage u can prevent a barrier from using it shields. its by far the most slept on perk on a sword rn.
@KakamileRS Жыл бұрын
@@Lonzology That's cool on a chill fusion, but I can't imagine getting out of cover and going close to champs in GM. And ngl ammit did well as a 25% boosted auto.
@Lonzology Жыл бұрын
@@KakamileRS again it's a niche perk but it's by far a better option than adaptive munitions. My main issue was he ranked it lower than adaptive munitions. When adaptive munitions has basically become useless after Bungie changed match game.
@TheAegisRelic Жыл бұрын
Tbh in reality swording a champ (especially an unstop) is risky, whereas using an AB primary with Adaptive is fairly straightforward
@juliankennedy59248 ай бұрын
I have asked this many times but I’ll ask it again. Bungie pls add recombination to a rocket. It would be so good. Literally would just be budget parasite.