Ranking JRPGs of 2023

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Mr. JRPG | Shadow

Mr. JRPG | Shadow

Күн бұрын

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@RikusonOne
@RikusonOne Жыл бұрын
When he said "I don't care what anyone says Star Ocean 5 is a great game" I'm assuming he meant 6. 23:42
@ShadowEliteHD
@ShadowEliteHD Жыл бұрын
Yep exactly
@everythingmainecooncat4938
@everythingmainecooncat4938 Жыл бұрын
I loved FFXVI. There, I said it. Great story, characters and music. Battle system was acceptable, not great.
@robe8723
@robe8723 Жыл бұрын
Watching the gameplay he put into this video, didn't look like he got too deep into the combat, didn't see him switch eikons once. The joy wasn't in the difficulty or depth of the enemies, which yes I agree should have been built on, the joy was in figuring out min/maxing the ability combos.
@everythingmainecooncat4938
@everythingmainecooncat4938 Жыл бұрын
@@robe8723 I've seen youtubers "review" the game with having just played the demo and decided they hated it. FFXVI deserves more love TBH
@uptoCHINAtown
@uptoCHINAtown Жыл бұрын
@@robe8723 The point is that you don't need to max any ability combos to beat ANYTHING in the game. You don't need to switch Eikons if you don't want to. FFXVI asks for no thinking at all. There aren't even any elemental weaknesses. If you want to do all the combos, etc., sure, its there and its flashy cool as all hell. But its an empty game compared to other FF in my opinion, and the story was just a big let down.
@ShadowEliteHD
@ShadowEliteHD Жыл бұрын
@@robe8723 the joy wasn't in the difficulty or depth of the enemies.... Riiiiiiiiiiight
@raceragsdale
@raceragsdale Жыл бұрын
Man, I am so psyched I found someone whose JRPG tastes line up with my own. You get what makes JRPGs fun. Mechanics are great, but there needs to be a story if it's going to stay fun for 50+ hours.
@Nauct
@Nauct Жыл бұрын
FFXVI is like a DMC game. It's easy to beat, the fun comes from doing huge combos and countering the enemies. I spent time in training mode learning combos, juggling, keeping myself in the air, stagger combos. Feeling badass when I pulled them off and parried/countered every move. You say you don't need to learn because they die so fast, old Final Fantasy games you didn't NEED to learn how to buff, use skill synergies, target the enemy weakness, you could just grind and mindlessly kill everything. The fun comes from mastering the system. Do you really think the game would be better if you HAD to do optimal combos? Then 99% of the players wouldn't be able to beat the game You play Tales of Arise and other Tales games right? Those games are easy AF too, the fun is doing combos and when you get really good using your whole party to combo Square has Octopath, Bravely Default, all the game to fill our turn based needs. A Final Fantasy game has always been about the story and cinematic experience. The action combat system, when you're good at it, improves that cinematic experience
@ShadowEliteHD
@ShadowEliteHD Жыл бұрын
Yea nah. I'm pretty sure in FFX I couldn't beat Seymour 2nd form without Haste and Delay attacks. So I needed to learn how to buff and debuff. Would have had to spend a lot of hours grinding to beat him and that's just one example in the FF games.
@lildrewZ
@lildrewZ Жыл бұрын
@@ShadowEliteHD LONG TIME FF fan here and I think XVI was great. It's not my favorite by any means, but I thought there were many facets that still gave it an identity as a true FF entry. Final Fantasy has always been a series that takes chances and dares to be different at the risk of alienating fans of their previous entries. I appreciated the stab they took and thought they did an admirable job. I do think they could've added more legit rpg elements, equipment mattering more etc... but the characters, their voice actors, their relationships with one another and their story was very well told. The fact that you didn't connect with them just tells me you didn't give it an honest go. It's pretty clear you went in with a negative mindset from the get-go. I get wanting to play as the other party members, but when FFXV came out, you could only play as Noctis unless you bought the season pass, which I think is a worse treatment to fans. Honestly, you should've just stuck with your D-rating even at the risk of alienating your own fans. Would've been more FF-like of you rather than that cop-out post edit.
@toozilly359
@toozilly359 Жыл бұрын
​@lildrewZ not sure if it was cop out... he had a bit of an emotional reaction but then probably thought about the stuff he liked later and sort of adjusted his opinion. I, personally, do this all the time. I probably enjoyed FF16 a bit more than Shadow but I think most/all of his complaints were fair.
@pogoacct8611
@pogoacct8611 Жыл бұрын
@@ShadowEliteHD you a clown if you trying to argue 10 is harder than xvi lol!!! even in your own horribly gameplay here you were struggling...
@ShadowEliteHD
@ShadowEliteHD Жыл бұрын
@@pogoacct8611 nobody was struggling lol. If you read it was to make a point he said other FFs....I named another FF as example. learn to read dude
@DevineGoPewPew
@DevineGoPewPew Жыл бұрын
I genuinely loved Octopath 2 but I played exclusively handheld. I still want to get it again to see how it looks on my OLED
@ZX-Gear
@ZX-Gear Жыл бұрын
Yes. Future Redeeemd was a prequel to explain how Aionios became what we saw in the main game and helped wrap loose ends on the entire series.
@Official_RetroMania
@Official_RetroMania Жыл бұрын
Octopath Travaler 2 is my favorite JRPG of 2023! I also think One Piece Odyssey deserved a higher place but is your tier list not mine lol.
@eschw2444
@eschw2444 Жыл бұрын
My New Year's Resolution is to be better at liking/leaving comments on channels I like to watch, so here's to the end of a year of JRPGs!
@harryw3310
@harryw3310 Жыл бұрын
Very solid rankings, love seeing Octopath appreciation as always, my personal Jrpg of the year
@TheBigBruvv
@TheBigBruvv Жыл бұрын
Loving the consistency 🐐🙌🏾
@DaVaLAndiL
@DaVaLAndiL Жыл бұрын
FFXVI has been real fun for me. It's too easy for its own good and never punishes you for messing up, but I really found the story interesting and engaging, wanting to learn more of the world and lore. Leveling up it's not really that important as you don't require to grind at any point of the story, the progression feels natural and you'll never be under leveled. The combat is fun but you can get away with the same strategy for all the fights. Voice acting, music and presentation is undeniably top tier. Not the best FF, but a solid one in my opinion.
@FusionAlchemist
@FusionAlchemist Жыл бұрын
The game is intended to be played more then once to unlock the harder difficulties and then you will see how difficult the game gets but sadly most people stopped at playing the game once and never got any further to see the game in its full glory. You can tell the creator of this video did the same thing and never bothered to play the game more then once and then complains about the difficulty of the game being to easy. The first playthrough is intended just to follow the story really and get you used to the combat system. The game really picks up on higher difficulties.
@pogoacct8611
@pogoacct8611 Жыл бұрын
@@FusionAlchemist yupppp. hard mode is so much better. and Ultimaniac is GLORIOUSSSS
@coconutologist
@coconutologist Жыл бұрын
17:20 Mad respect. JRPGs are about a group of miss fits banding together to save a colorful and unique world. A JRPG with just one character is and RPG, or an "action adventure" game.
@СергейПарамонов-ч9в
@СергейПарамонов-ч9в 11 ай бұрын
Hey, Shadow! Hope there will be more of your amazing videos in 2024!!!
@shenmuemasta
@shenmuemasta Жыл бұрын
Hey man, thanks for the video, always enjoy hearing from you.
@countryboyred
@countryboyred Жыл бұрын
Engage is a classic example of incredible gameplay and terrible story. It could have been one of the best fire emblem of all time if it had even a passable story.
@ShadowEliteHD
@ShadowEliteHD Жыл бұрын
Facts. The story wasn't even in the backseat it was in another car entirely.
@HibiTeamQueso
@HibiTeamQueso Жыл бұрын
Lmao you baited me with the thumbnail, Future Redeemed in C would be a crime 😂
@sleepytwiggaming
@sleepytwiggaming Жыл бұрын
Xenoblade is a nintendo IP definitely not leaving lol I also thought it looked great for what it was on. Switch 2 hopefully has a huge graphics overhaul lol
@wiseguy240Winston
@wiseguy240Winston Жыл бұрын
I thought FF16 was a B- or a C+ at the lowest. The battle system & sidequest were the only real glaring issues but easily it's better than XV. That take on Xenoblade 3 is wildest i ever heard tho ngl 😭
@ShadowEliteHD
@ShadowEliteHD Жыл бұрын
XVI being better than XV is something I can def agree with.
@JC-cb8oi
@JC-cb8oi Жыл бұрын
It’s true because XVI is actually a complete story. XV was made like Western developed games, we got that early access style when it first launched and now it’s a Frankenstein’s monster of a game being held together with patches and DLC. Hell, the story isn’t complete without a damn novel. XV isn’t complete and the story is too fractured to enjoy without doing some work.
@S2V_Steve
@S2V_Steve 2 ай бұрын
Ni No Kuni 2 and XBC 3 brought me into the world of JRPGS. Freaking rad games.
@bkillinm
@bkillinm Жыл бұрын
Octopath traveler 2 was my GOTY for sure. 100% S Tier
@LRrealest
@LRrealest Жыл бұрын
I'ma have to watch this later but happy to see you included Xenoblade Chronicles Future Redeemed 💪🏾
@OmarO_721
@OmarO_721 24 күн бұрын
If Final Fantasy ever goes back to being turn based, they can literally use Octopath’s battle system. It’s literally the Stagger System but in turn based combat. Square needs to appoint Asano to direct the next mainline game
@RaifSeverence
@RaifSeverence Жыл бұрын
Trails into reveries story didnt grab ya cuz its a side game. Meant as a farewell to the Crossbell/ Erebonia casts and setup for the Calvard Arc.
@jclosed2516
@jclosed2516 Жыл бұрын
Yep - This year will see the release of a completely new arc in a completely new region called Calvard. It's called Trails Through Daybreak, and it seems to have a very different game play. It will be released coming summer...
@luispalacios8423
@luispalacios8423 Жыл бұрын
I think the 'C' route alone makes it worthwhile. That team is so enjoyable, and we actually get to see one of the few 'older' characters truly grow and experience significant character development. As an adult, I appreciate this because it's not only teenagers who have to deal with drama.
@scoutisabelle
@scoutisabelle Жыл бұрын
28:13 Those jiggle physics. 😮
@ShadowEliteHD
@ShadowEliteHD Жыл бұрын
And that is what's most important
@EndlessIX
@EndlessIX Жыл бұрын
Ok, I will admit it, you got me with the thumbnail.
@andrewcamacho3364
@andrewcamacho3364 4 ай бұрын
As someone with a visual disability, I'd also realy appreciate some of these JRPGs having English dubs. I was so disappointed when the Baten Kaitos HD collection came out, and they stripped out the dub... I get that the dub's recording quality wasn't great, but not having it in there cost them a sale from my end. Same with One Piece Odyssey, would love to play it, but no English dub? No thanks.
@ifrit1937
@ifrit1937 Жыл бұрын
As for your opinion on base Xenoblade 3 I can name what your issue is: the game lacks a cutscene/plot point that's as good of a hook as the first 2 games early on in the game. I have NOT finished the game yet though I had it a month after its release (also why I haven't played the dlc expansion either...I'll go back to it eventually but other games took precedence over it due to this reason) and got to close the end of chapter 4 according to the guide I was using (mainly for side quests/get an idea of how far I was) and there hasn't been a cutscene that hooked me...the closest was the very first cutscene of the game (the initial cutscenes of the 2 lights (probably the worlds) speeding towards each other into the first war cutscene)...all others (like some of the Ouroboros scenes) looked good but still weren't on the level of say the first time you fight Malos after meeting Pyra scene in XBC2 or the Vandham scene in XBC2 (granted...3's Vandham/first Ouroboros scene may be the next best one and closest one to a good hook in 3 after the initial war scenes). The characters were great imo and the story's solid however the way the cutscenes were executed for the most part just didn't pull me in at all, throw in I'm also one of the players that actually doesn't like the Xenoblade series combat (I don't like MMO style auto attack systems or ATB systems...I only really played the series cause the story and characters are very good but I'd have prefer either full action where you control every aspect of the combat and don't hit/miss/get hit/dodge based off rng or full turn based in the vein of Dragon Quest or Trails or hybrid systems that have turns where you can do multiple actions such as Eternal Sonata/Fairy Fencer F/ Valkyria Chronicles (though Xcom like would be more accurante there)/etc)...if they ever do a Xenosaga remake like a lot of people are predicting they'll do soon (I've seen a few videos suggesting it'll happen) I hope they keep the combat system more classical turn based/like OG Xenosaga (or a rework of it to fix any balancing issues and glitches)...at best a art style change to Xenoblade style would be cool and hopefully some rewrites to the story to fix plot holes and pacing issues the games apparently have (never played it so can't say exactly what issues they were but a lot of people mention many issues in this regard...likely due to them cutting a lot as the game was originally supposed to be 6 games and got cut to 3...maybe a rewrite to include some of the stuff from the cut games even if it meant 4 games would fix these issues).
@ricardobelmont5984
@ricardobelmont5984 Жыл бұрын
Was looking for something to watch during breakfast! Nice list
@asmodeus58XX
@asmodeus58XX Жыл бұрын
Trails went full on MCU starting with Cold Steel, and Reverie is their Infinity War. The only thing remaining is to add Nayuta somehow.
@floyddominique3731
@floyddominique3731 Жыл бұрын
o shit... that's awfully brave of you for that FF16 opinion lmao, i got scorched earth reactions from others when i said i'm not feeling FF16, same as i dont quite like tales of arise as much as their earlier series.
@sharebear421
@sharebear421 Жыл бұрын
Star ocean 2 for me is the best jrpg released in 2023. Almost said tactics ogre reborn but forgot that was tail end of 2022. Xbc3 was such a step up after xbc2 was such a let down and the dlc was great
@Gadgetmawombo
@Gadgetmawombo Жыл бұрын
XB2 was better lol.
@sharebear421
@sharebear421 Жыл бұрын
@@Gadgetmawombo no it wasn’t 😂 not by a long shot
@lildrewZ
@lildrewZ Жыл бұрын
@@Gadgetmawombo either you're a weeb or you're out of your mind
@TyandOnGoing
@TyandOnGoing Жыл бұрын
FF7 remake was the best direction for keeping the rpg elements while adding action elements. I’m unsure why they tried to go full action with ff16. The ATB should be a set thing for all FF games whether it turned based or not imo
@virtualstring2925
@virtualstring2925 Жыл бұрын
I personally love the combat in 16 and hate it in the 7 remake. The way it's mixed between turn-based and action gets annoying when it's pretty much all about the ATB. Maybe this is just me, but attacking and dodging feels boring, and micromanaging ATB usage between characters stops the action and makes you go through the menu to pick what to use, and the ATB attacks aren't even enjoyable like in other turn-based FF games
@Gadgetmawombo
@Gadgetmawombo Жыл бұрын
@@virtualstring2925Same 16 was so fun. I get that it's not really the direction most want but it was SO fun. FF7 remake combat I think is still decent but it feels super clunky by comparison.
@virtualstring2925
@virtualstring2925 Жыл бұрын
@@Gadgetmawombo Exactly. I feel like a lot of people don't like FF16 because they think of FF games as turn-based classics. I've not played them when I was younger, so I take the games for what they are. I do understand that people don't like that the game changed into an action game, but I don't think the game deserves hate for not being turn-based
@jclosed2516
@jclosed2516 Жыл бұрын
@@virtualstring2925 I guess that was because they considered FF15 went in the wrong direction, and a huge crowd was really hoping FF16 would be a return to the "roots". In stead FF16 went even further than FF15, and smashing all hopes in the process. That gave the lovers of the FF franchise the idea that their wishes where completely neglected. Of course that sat not very well, to put it mildly, and that has caused this backlash... To be clear - I am not a real lover of the FF franchise (I like the Trails series way more), so I can look at this in a neutral way.
@NotAverageAfro
@NotAverageAfro Жыл бұрын
@@Gadgetmawombo You're right, I think that if they'd bothered to add ANY relevant RPG mechanics and a party system (even if you can't control them alah KH) then it would have been a better game
@Omnicloudx13
@Omnicloudx13 Жыл бұрын
Some great JRPGs came out last year and this year is looking spectacular as well.
@fortheqynn3503
@fortheqynn3503 Жыл бұрын
You completely lost me with your opinions on Xenoblade 3 and FF16 lmao. Complete lack of coherency, self-awareness and objectivity. Considered subscribing, but I'm good lol
@pogoacct8611
@pogoacct8611 Жыл бұрын
same. dudes a clown
@wselak
@wselak Жыл бұрын
octopath 2 was a masterpiece im doing a second playthrough rn
@bogusdavallante7039
@bogusdavallante7039 4 ай бұрын
What's the game in the intro called?
@beneneubi6575
@beneneubi6575 Жыл бұрын
You really need to play Chained Echoes! You will love it. :)
@daytonablue2041
@daytonablue2041 Жыл бұрын
I loved FFVI. Also most of your complaints are remedied once you unlock hard mode. I had a blast playing on hard mode. That said my complaint is that hard mode should have been an option from the beginning.
@GRK_2024
@GRK_2024 11 ай бұрын
me personally i felt more attached to the characters in XC3 than any other series but i have to agree that future redeemed fixed alot of things and made it alot better
@vOrbZv
@vOrbZv Жыл бұрын
Trails to Azure is SSSSSSSS Tier so if it’s not there I’m rioting!!
@eleazarperezjimenez8360
@eleazarperezjimenez8360 Жыл бұрын
The way you’re shocked with a character called Mid just shows me you’re not an FF fan lol
@lildrewZ
@lildrewZ Жыл бұрын
Confused by your rankings of One Piece & Fire Emblem. What you said didn't really match up with the tiers lol
@SilverHeimdall
@SilverHeimdall Жыл бұрын
Octopath 2 got snubbed by critics, many of them discarding it as "more of the same"... sigh. Those critics are idiots.
@kusolp544
@kusolp544 Жыл бұрын
Its like critics playing dark sould and being hot garbage at playing games :3
@mightymanatee5342
@mightymanatee5342 Жыл бұрын
It's an example of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".
@TheHermitZ
@TheHermitZ Жыл бұрын
He’s back with a banger!
@DMaster8686
@DMaster8686 Жыл бұрын
FF16 shouldn't even be ranked in rpg tier lists, since it's not even an rpg. It's a mediocre action title, a wannabe devil may cry with good graphics and music. Story and characters are nothing to write home about.
@Myndeex
@Myndeex Жыл бұрын
Lol i love FF16 but also i agree with you it is D low C tier game :-zx
@johnkula1536
@johnkula1536 Жыл бұрын
Final Fantasy 16 is not a perfect game by any means and I agree with a lot of your criticisms. But I still found it good enough to get through. The sidequests went different from how I was used to and I realized why. Normally, I care more about the rewards for the quest than the story of the quest. But in this game it was the other way around.
@uptoCHINAtown
@uptoCHINAtown Жыл бұрын
Totally agree about everything you said about FFXVI lol
@shadowmaksim
@shadowmaksim Жыл бұрын
11:34 ("FF16") I'll be honest, I haven't played "FF16" yet and I'm currently in this odd spot where I don't know if I even want to. Something about it just isn't registering in my brain as a game I want to play. I don't even care that it's not turn-based, we've had plenty of "FF" that weren't and I liked those just fine. It's almost kind of bugging me cause I can't quite figure out why I feel like this. The best comparison I have is that it's giving me the exact same vibes that "Tales of Arise" did...and I didn't quite like "Arise" all that much. 19:00 ("Disgaea 7") I don't know how to feel about "Disgaea 7". It's definitely a step up from "6", which granted isn't saying much, but it still feels oddly lacking to me. Like the series is still trying to build itself back up. But yeah, I also miss the sprites. At first, I thought it was just cause NIS couldn't afford to make them anymore. But no, "Disgaea RPG", the mobile game, regularly releases anywhere from 2-4 new characters (well, character variants) nearly every month for it. All with their own proper sprites, idle poses, and unique attack animations. Not to mention artwork and voicework as well. Heck, they've even recreated the entire main casts of both "6" and "7" but in sprite forms, which of course look better.
@ShadowEliteHD
@ShadowEliteHD Жыл бұрын
I can def see what you're saying with Disgae building itself back up. It almost felt like a soft reboot with D6.
@shadowmaksim
@shadowmaksim Жыл бұрын
@@ShadowEliteHD I wonder how much of this is due to NIS getting a new president not too long ago. Granted, that happened after "6" released but who knows how much was shifting within before it was formally announced. Either way, this series is definitely going through a lot of changes right now. Even if the glory days are over, I still want it to survive.
@Achance2c
@Achance2c 11 ай бұрын
The way you were talking about 16 and looking at the gameplay tells me you didint even bother opening up the options menu. respectfully. love your videos!
@ShadowEliteHD
@ShadowEliteHD 11 ай бұрын
Whatever it is your getting at the point is no extra stuff was even needed.
@Achance2c
@Achance2c 11 ай бұрын
@@ShadowEliteHD I'm sorry I don't understand your reply
@jjlopez27jl
@jjlopez27jl Жыл бұрын
Name of the game in the first 60 or so seconds of the intro?
@ShadowEliteHD
@ShadowEliteHD Жыл бұрын
Tales of Arise
@Knokalakooh
@Knokalakooh Жыл бұрын
Sea of stars was just a good game. I thought it looked beautiful, the combat was fun however I felt the combat wore out its novelty about half way through and I think the reason is because characters never unlock any new abilities. You pretty much end up defaulting to the same ones (moonarang) over and over. I feel a big part of a JRPG’s fun is a sense of getting stronger and more optimized as you learn new skills and abilities that give you an edge with new encounters. Which I feel sea of stars sorely lacked. Also the music was meh? Like it didn’t sound very jrpg-ish if that makes any sense. I think a good sign of a jrpg with good music is if you can hum a handful of the themes and I couldn’t hum any song from that game for you. Story was fine, it was pretty standard for a jrpg and I don’t think that’s a bad thing if it’s executed well. Not even kidding when I say I only remember two characters names and both aren’t the main characters lol. Garl and moraine cause they both actually had a personality whereas the two main characters felt extremely under developed personality wise. Like FF16 in terms of overall enjoyment i give it a solid 7/10. It was a very average jrpg.
@countryboyred
@countryboyred Жыл бұрын
Sea of Stars was probably my biggest letdown of the year. I was so hyped and the game was just… fine. It was a 7/10 to me. My hype levels were admittedly way too high. I was expecting the second coming of chrono trigger.
@bernkastel7438
@bernkastel7438 Жыл бұрын
I liked the initial story setup of Sea Of Stars, but when the cook kid from the main duo backstory randomly came back shortly after the flashback and had no reservations about what caused their separation in the first place, I just knew from then on that this game would have no real stakes.
@Gsoda35
@Gsoda35 4 ай бұрын
can't disagree much with you there and Octopath traveler 1 & 2 is a pleasure to play.
@astrea555
@astrea555 Жыл бұрын
It won't save the story really, but people should play Fire Emblem Engage with the retranslation mod. Makes a lot of characters make much more sense.
@FullMetalB
@FullMetalB Жыл бұрын
Putting fire emblem engage in B tier is wild enough, but to then suggest star rail is as good is INSANE.
@sondr3m996
@sondr3m996 Жыл бұрын
"The characters are pretty nice" *zooms in on bikini-clad wifu".
@ShadowEliteHD
@ShadowEliteHD Жыл бұрын
Hey man we need to foucs on what's important
@Fast_Freddi3
@Fast_Freddi3 Жыл бұрын
I never gave Octopath Traveler a thought because I just couldn't get into the 1st one. I felt that that it was too grindy to beat bosses when the random encounters were easy.
@countryboyred
@countryboyred Жыл бұрын
I didn’t like octopath 1 at all but something clicked and I loved 2. I think just a simple thing like adding a fast forward button for the combat made it so much more enjoyable. Also I liked the characters more than the 1st.
@NormalPsyche
@NormalPsyche Жыл бұрын
The boss fights in Octopath are all about strategy. Learning the boss’ patterns, and how to respond to them is the key to victory. When to block, heal, or buff, when to save BP, and when to go for the break and dump BP for damage. It’s easy to forget about team comp, synergy, and strategies when the random encounters aren’t difficult. But you can definitely get through without going out of your way to grind.
@gatz900
@gatz900 Жыл бұрын
Did not play a bunch of these games but of the ones I played, I would put SO2R in S and take XBC3 down to A. Keep OT2 in S. Otherwise good list
@Kyle81290
@Kyle81290 Жыл бұрын
I came here to see FF16 at the bottom, wasn't disappointed. Also, that Mona mod for Tales of Arise is nice
@NicolasAlexanderOtto
@NicolasAlexanderOtto Жыл бұрын
Someone needs to explain to me what is good about Sea of Stars (other than the outstanding Design). After 10 hours I couldn't stand another minute of it. The battle system was so rudimentary and even after 10 hours I still only had the same 4 effective skills to choose from and absolutely no strategic depth, the characters up to that point felt bland and boring (in the village where people disappear all the time). I didn't get to the first major plot point apparently, but I just couldn't help it. It was so boring. Maybe it's because I played Chained Echos before, which in my opinion had one of the most satisfying battle systems of all time. Is there any use of trying to push on, does the game get any more interesting if I didn't like it up to that point?
@davidtimmer596
@davidtimmer596 10 ай бұрын
Persona 5 Tactica, for me was enjoyable, but didn't really hit those highs, and Toshiro was one of my problems, because of how whiny he got in his interactions with the thieves. Strikers was WAY better with its moments with the Thieves Star Ocean 2 remake. Best remake, GOTY for me. Respected the original, but still felt new and fresh Trails to Azure, I'm so glad I finally got to experience the Crossbell story in its entirety Reverie: Fun interactions, especially in the Reverie corridor, however the 3 routes made the pacing feel pretty disjointed. Hopefully we can see what Calvard has to offer. Also, Osborne daydream is the best substory, I will fight anyone who disagrees. Fate: Samurai Remnant was fun, because of the general style, and I like how you can interact with the cities you go to similar to the Yakuza games. And for Monochrome Mobius: Good standalone for the Utawarerumono series. Good time waster if you want something simple.
@rudeshotta
@rudeshotta Жыл бұрын
I agree 100% on ff16 it was so boring to play
@slaynnyt8130
@slaynnyt8130 Жыл бұрын
I think 16 story, soundtrack and epic battles were top tier, however as a GAME it was really generic and lacking. It was missing some of the RPG elements that make it Final Fantasy, like items that severely empower or modify your character, exploration stuff to find secret things that actually feel rewarding, I don't know exactly what else but it felt like it was missing its soul. Sidequests were extremely generic and felt more like a chore and the combat was just missing something. I also enjoyed the combat of Tales of Arise which is quite action oriented, but to me it was way better than FF16 combat. I don't have any problem with the linear story (hey FFX is probably my favorite maybe behind 9), it was really just the combat system and missing elements. The system from 7 remake I actually enjoy a lot more than this one.
@ChrisMS0815
@ChrisMS0815 Жыл бұрын
A ton of Action JRPG's have a better combat system than FFXVI, only having one playable character, with only one weapon type was the first mistake, then you add the fact that there is no buffs of debuffs and no elemental damage despite using elemental attacks. How the fuck is the swords Flametounge and Icebrand not hit with their respective elements? how does Malboros bad breath not inflict poison, darkness silence etc? All these things just make it a very boring and repetitive battle system. Crisis Core, Type-0, Strangers of Paradise, and non FF games like Nier, Kingdom Hearts and Tales of series all do action RPG combat better.
@pogoacct8611
@pogoacct8611 Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisMS0815 you have no idea what you are talking about.
@ChrisMS0815
@ChrisMS0815 Жыл бұрын
@@pogoacct8611 Nothing I said about the game was false though, explain to me how it's better than other Action JRPG's I listed?
@pogoacct8611
@pogoacct8611 Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisMS0815 FXVI has 2 weapons (odins blade being the second with its own moveset and reward for parry.) the game has both buffs and debuffs. will o wikes gives you a protective shield that nullifies damage for 4 ticks. Lightning bolt buffs all damage you do to the enemy AND largely buffs damage the enemy takes if the enemy hits the bolt with their own move. stoneskin tonic buffs defese, Berserker ring massively buffs attack. Garudas claw stumbles the enemy if used when they mid way on the will gauge, Odins rift slip LITEREALLY casts slow and allows you to keep attacking while the enemy is motionless... the list goes on and on and on so i repeat, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
@pogoacct8611
@pogoacct8611 Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisMS0815 and i dont have to talk about those games because all you said was "they do it better" while offering no explanations. sooooo all ill say is "ffxvi does it better." and that should be that now i know what you are going to do next, you will attempt to move the goalpost and say a whole bunch of extra shit. but my point is proven. you have NOOOOO IDEAAAA what you are talking about
@NullVoid-rm7jm
@NullVoid-rm7jm Жыл бұрын
I want a Shadow The Edgehog (I spelled it that way on purpose) remake for the original GameCube game so bad
@bernkastel7438
@bernkastel7438 Жыл бұрын
Unironically yeah. I feel like there should be more games focusing on other characters beside Sonic, and a Shadow remake is a good start.
@redstratus97
@redstratus97 Жыл бұрын
Miss your livestreams.
@Noumakara
@Noumakara Жыл бұрын
ff16 is in D, thats legit. Respect your honesty
@JRPGgames945
@JRPGgames945 Жыл бұрын
If you want my opinion on the best final fantasy for me in my opinion its final fantasy 4 loved the story and the gameplay best overpowered weapons as well to get in that game busted as hell.
@ShadowEliteHD
@ShadowEliteHD Жыл бұрын
FF4 is pretty great ngl
@xxmontayxx9033
@xxmontayxx9033 Жыл бұрын
looks like i got some new games to play cool vid
@kinghell9061
@kinghell9061 Жыл бұрын
I'd of put FF16 in the 'not a JRPG' tier. Alternatively put it in the 'WTF are you doing Square Enix? Stop chasing the mass market, dumb western gamer, they already have CoD, Fortnite etc. Baldur's Gate has proven you can make big £$£ if you stay in your lane and do something special'... tier
@ShadowEliteHD
@ShadowEliteHD Жыл бұрын
FF16 def needs to bee in a tier just for it lmao
@JC-cb8oi
@JC-cb8oi Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I feel so soon about Xenoblade 3. It’s my least favorite in the series tbh. I still want to play the DLC, but currently putting in work on Baldur’s Gate 3.
@LowKeyTired-q7d
@LowKeyTired-q7d Жыл бұрын
I love star rail bro !!! I need to play octopath traveller
@photoeos5
@photoeos5 Жыл бұрын
Hey Thanks for the info on all these great games I've played some, not many and mostly agree. I have to say though FF 16 is not a JRPG, not even close anymore, it should not be presented as one, it is way too easy and in my opinion it's more of a "Story game" and button smashing.... that is it, BUT if we condensed it to just the story and world building, I thought it was amazing . Only my two cents, continue the great work, and Salut from Switzerland ;)
@ShadowEliteHD
@ShadowEliteHD Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment my guy! I definitely would say there's an argument to be made that FF16 is not a JRPG.
@N5O1
@N5O1 Жыл бұрын
13:49 Like in the 2010s everything that had some stats or equipment started calling it RPG, now everything that is developed in Japan called Jrpg 🤡 I genuinely don't understand now what IS JRPG and what is NOT?
@Kikokikz_RPG
@Kikokikz_RPG Жыл бұрын
I understand why you don't like FFXVI. I'm a big fan of FF series, but I'm a bigger fan of turn-based games. I liked and subscribed because of it.
@JRPGgames945
@JRPGgames945 Жыл бұрын
LMAO when I saw final fantasy 16 in D tier I'm like damn gusty as heck and you know what never take back an opinion of how you feel about a game if the fan based of that series gets upset and attack you that's on them but I watched the rating video and no Disagreement from me was shocked you put Sea of stars in S tier rank I enjoyed the hell out of that game and got the Platinum for it my PS4 as well.
@syrales5539
@syrales5539 Жыл бұрын
maybe you like labyrinth of galleria. check it out, might be your thing.
@Frionelz
@Frionelz Жыл бұрын
This is a smart evil thumbnail :)
@mathewhosier9739
@mathewhosier9739 11 ай бұрын
FF16 was the best AAA action JRPG of 2023, your completely out of your mind, it was a solid 9/10 title
@ShadowEliteHD
@ShadowEliteHD 11 ай бұрын
I disagree sir
@NivraNabru
@NivraNabru Жыл бұрын
i wish theyd make a stand alone version of XB3 future redeemed. i have physical copy of torna on switch, i need a physical copy of future redeemed 😢
@mateusmauricioff
@mateusmauricioff Жыл бұрын
Honestly, FF16 shouldn't even be on the list lol it's a meh action game with pretty graphics, nothing more. Overall really nice list! Octopath 2 was my favorite JRPG this year, such an awesome game to complete (Galdera was a nightmare).
@vOrbZv
@vOrbZv Жыл бұрын
Reverie was mid ngl and I’m not biased because trails series is my favorite game series of all time. Splitting the story up ruined pacing like crazy cuz it locked you out of certain parts that were good for you to go do something else and I 100% the reverie corridor but that shit drags on like crazy and *spoiler below l* Nothing mattered you even did in the reverie so all that time I wasted was useless.
@ZoneDragoon
@ZoneDragoon 11 ай бұрын
I do hold Final Fantasy XVI alot higher than you because I think the game has taken a step back from some of the things that was holding the last couple of entries in the series back. I would place it as a weak A tier game I don't think its top notch but I do think its pretty good. However when it comes to the battle of the game my impression is that its the weak part of the game. I myself after playing through it called it "Very Flashy" but not very deep and I really don't feel like I'm rewarded for becoming better at it at the end of the day its a very flashy button mash. Other than that I can agree with Sea of Stars and Octopath Traveler 2 both games are really nice and focus on skill rather than flash in combat which I think its an upside.
@ebonomicscasual1433
@ebonomicscasual1433 Жыл бұрын
Revoke your mr. JRPG title now! SO5 is NOT a great game
@ShadowEliteHD
@ShadowEliteHD Жыл бұрын
Star Ocean 6
@ebonomicscasual1433
@ebonomicscasual1433 Жыл бұрын
@@ShadowEliteHD oh okay SO6 is fine. You can keep the title
@Metro4466
@Metro4466 10 ай бұрын
Spiiiicy FFXVI section
@NormalPsyche
@NormalPsyche Жыл бұрын
Thank god the thumbnail was bait lol I saw Future Redeemed in C-tier and was heated FFXVI below FE Engage is kinda crazy tho. I get that it’s not what everyone wanted, but c’mon
@Knokalakooh
@Knokalakooh Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed 16 but I wouldn’t say I loved it. I enjoyed it for what it was, but FFVII rebirth I know I’m going to enjoy 10X more. 16 to me felt like a game Taylor made to appeal to the masses as opposed to longtime fans of the usual tone and vibe we’ve come to love from games like FFVII Remake. Combat was fine, I felt a lot of enemies and especially the bosses took way too long to kill. When the story was good, it’s really good, but when it’s boring holy crap it was boring. I feel like other FF games made the down time interesting in this game it just felt very “hey let’s talk about what we’re planning to do 3x longer than necessary. I feel like the down time between major dungeons was very padded out to extend the games length. Same with music. Music for the bosses (titan lost) were an absolute bop. But music when you’re exploring just kinda sounds like generic western RPG orchestra. In terms of overall enjoyment it was a solid 7/10 for me.
@DenjiSora
@DenjiSora Жыл бұрын
Star Rail is so mid, and yet it has made so much more than all these other games 😭 see people drop 10k just to max out a character 😔
@AcerbusSanctum
@AcerbusSanctum 6 ай бұрын
FFXVI was an amazing game, the excessive criticism was beyond cringe
@N5O1
@N5O1 Жыл бұрын
15:46 This game looks like a stepson of DMC and Dark Souls, how they called it Final Fantasy... ok FF is a franchise, but it is NOT an RPG.
@MDog_FPV
@MDog_FPV Жыл бұрын
Bro ff16 original rating was justified... its ur list ... don't flip flop
@jesuslikeslsdnwiid
@jesuslikeslsdnwiid Жыл бұрын
play chained echoes if you havent
@ShadowEliteHD
@ShadowEliteHD Жыл бұрын
Chained Echoes is literally GOD tier. Played it, loved it.
@jesuslikeslsdnwiid
@jesuslikeslsdnwiid Жыл бұрын
@@ShadowEliteHD i agree.
@suntzu4607
@suntzu4607 Жыл бұрын
I really hoped you mean Star Ocean 6 as a great game because it is, but I still think Star Ocean 2 R and the original is better.
@ShadowEliteHD
@ShadowEliteHD Жыл бұрын
Absolutely meant Star Ocean 6
@ramaluminus
@ramaluminus Жыл бұрын
I'm kinda pessimistic they're going to add EN dub in future Atelier games ever again, I mean yeah they do some questioner, after each game launch asking for feedbacks but like there are no sign of any notable changes. If anything, I want Gust to improve their translation since Ryza 3's translation is so disappointing.
@ShadowEliteHD
@ShadowEliteHD Жыл бұрын
There was times in Ryza's 3 translation felt off I'll admit.
@creatorsfreedom6734
@creatorsfreedom6734 Жыл бұрын
make the best of 2024
@Syrin23
@Syrin23 Жыл бұрын
FF16 has never looked good to me. Glad to see someone feels the same
@felleja
@felleja Жыл бұрын
TLDR?
@ShadowEliteHD
@ShadowEliteHD Жыл бұрын
Watch the video?
@tommyroyer6633
@tommyroyer6633 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. Just finished sea of stars and was surprised to see it in S tier. I thought it was a good game. It was really good at certain times, but the ending was really disappointing to me. Underwhelming. So overall it ended up being just good and not great
@Jouchi004
@Jouchi004 Жыл бұрын
Sea of Stars is the most overhyped jrpg I’ve ever played. Could not find the characters likeable and a lot of people claim it’s similar to the old jrpgs but if you go beyond the surface level, it’s really barren with not actual substance
@supermonk3y07
@supermonk3y07 Жыл бұрын
4:35 the strategy rpg side of it is not the main part of Fire Emblem games. Some of them are so, so so, dialogue heavy its at least 60% of the game.
@jandkaskim2760
@jandkaskim2760 Жыл бұрын
Imagine hating on Nintendo trying to take games THEY OWN off THEIR platform. Anti Nintendo bias showing through
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