Ranking Star Trek Online enemies by how annoying they are to fight in space

[@Stu1701]

Oh my god, I forgot the Undine! That's embarrassing. I'd put them in Reasonable Challenge, but like, the low end of it. The tier list: tiermaker.com/create/star-trek-online-enemies-space-15265948 Epic Game Creator Tag: STU1701 Real Merch Discount Link: real-merch.com?rs_ref=sgfaWYII Volante Design Discount Link: www.volantedesign.us/discount/stu1701

[@PIrow79]

@@Stu1701 I was gonna mention that to you Stu. But keep up the good work.

[@EsShinkai02]

First encounters with the Voth kicked my ass so hard that I learned how to properly build a starship.

[@penguinmaster7]

that late? I got stuck on the undine ship in the first mission because I didn't know wtf i was doing.

[@CaptainFES]

The Vaudwar is the only one I disagree with. They are 'Fury Induced Rage Quitting.'

[@focusonrevenues]

Absolutely agree those barrages they fire off are annoying.

[@chrisjohnson1146]

They're actually not that difficult to deal with. Those barrages are energy damage. Reverse Shield Polarity loves that. Pop evasive and RSP, the barrages are no problem. Its the frickin' Anchor Drone/beam that drives me up a wall as there is no counter other than destroy the offending source.

[@danielduggan5405]

Those cluster torps are what put them in the ‘Fury’ category for me. I’ve gotten better at dealing with them with higher levels but when you first encounter them is a different story.

[@hazardous8301]

When testing my ships survivability I always test it against the Vaadwaur. They are easily the hardest hitting enemy faction in the game.

[@brother_bear_one7340]

​@@danielduggan5405PBAoE abilities like Photonic Shockwave or Charged Particle Burst are usually enough to stop the Cluster Mines.

[@valerie93_]

when you went off on the Mokai I FELT that, that was a whole mood lol

[@Stu1701]

It's not the first time I've made that rant, and it likely won't be the last

[@marhawkman303]

@@Stu1701 Hahaah, you forgot that the Iconians and Breen used to be worse before the devs nerfed them. :p The Mokai are just annoying. Iconians with Intel powers did some stupid stuff back when first added. Breen used to be able to flatline your power levels. They could actually have your shields go offline solely due to power drain.

[@chrisjohnson1146]

@@Stu1701 Yea... getting yeeted is annoying. For me its more when your engie team is on cooldown because your DPS just mows through them and you get fresh ones coming in with fresh Viral Impulse Burst. Its the same issue I have with the Hirogen in 9th Rule. Kill them fast enough, FRESH ships come in with FRESH cooldowns... and... kiss your buffs goodbye don't even bother with them.

[@Shinyspddmn]

@@marhawkman303 They still have that stupid viral matrix that shuts your boffs down if you don't take them out quick enough

[@briankriens5645]

By far the worst, then Hirogen.

[@brother_bear_one7340]

When the Terran faction first released, I'd definitely consider that a Fury Induced Rage Quit experience. Their escorts had that point defense system that would absolutely melt you, and their quantum torps were almost always instant kill. They're not as bad now. Vaadwaur are still the most consistently annoying enemies. Between the Anchor Drones and Barrage spam, I'm constantly having to pop major CDs to stay alive, and hope I don't catch a Subnucleonic Beam all the while.

[@roryjs]

I feel like he got the order wrong: red should be rage quit and light yellow should be ready win

[@DgtlRnn042]

I'm always terrified when the breen show up in Jupiter Gauntlet. They always hit me with SubNuke, and Endothermic Inhibitor, while I'm swarmed by tractor beams.

[@2005mlh]

Yup. The Ninth Rule with the Breen when I was leveling up a ship was really annoying.

[@marhawkman303]

@@2005mlh They used to be able to shut your ship down with power drain... THAT was a massive PITA.

[@danielcostanza1029]

Yes yes. I was screaming at the game what happened from back in the day.

[@danielcostanza1029]

Same with the Vad and Iconions when they first came out.

[@kingcarl2012]

Mo'kai, for that viral Impulse burst, nuff said. Vaadwaar and Heralds both make my list, choosing targets or using specific abilities in a pinch can be really tough on console sometimes, the number of tiimes I have blown up because I cant target the Eye of Sauron Beam, or the tiny Vaadwaar tractor beam drone holds me in their cluster torpedo minefield zone in Elite TFO's is crazy.

[@michaelmacleod6517]

I'm still for the total extinction of the Vaadwar. I've never hated a species so much as them

[@emperorriot5141]

In my Opinion the Herald’s are “Fury induced Rage Quitting” whenever I fight them in space manly do to them throwing everting they have at me as soon as I fight them

[@Telemachus2814]

Merry (early) Christmas, Stu

[@alexgoebel7462]

Hey Stu! Love your content. If I may make one suggestion - could you maybe use the faction symbol on the ship image somewhere if you do another tier list like this? The red highlights on a mirror borg cube versus a Borg Cube or CONTROL cube are kinda hard to spot, especially on mobile.

[@ifPeopleWereRain]

Shoutout to the Hirogen sub nuke disabling all firing mode buffs too so no more spread, surgical, faw or overload, love it. (ALSO, reduce recharge time on it)

[@marhawkman303]

honestly Hirogen aren't hugely dangerous... they just disable your offense. Stu forgot how Hirogen can use scramble sensors to cause you to lose target lock. I would put Breen higher actually. Breen using Tyken used to be able to FLATLINE your power levels. They could fully disable your ship with energy drain unless you had something to give you bonus power levels. Breen at least used to be able to drain shield power hard enough to knock your shield offline completely. Also, his hatred of Mokai seems to be a complaint mostly related to park and shoot builds.

[@Shinyspddmn]

@@marhawkman303 I've taken out more allies than I can count due to scramble sensors and not being able to react in time while FAW or CSV are up

[@txc2735]

The wrex pilot escort is a very good counter to the Vaudwar if you know what you're doing in terms of creating your build. It's usually fast enough to dodge the barrage ability of those ships outright even when you're not using evasive maneuvers or full impulse. Mokai on the other hand are legit fury inducing rage quits because not only of that viral impulse ability, but their BOPs are simply bigger hur'q swarmers with bigger guns. Voth really become difficult in the dyson sphere space when you have to take out their battle groups unless you have a group of other players there to help out.

[@andrewtaylor940]

To be fair that one Sona encounter, the one Sona ship is among the most rage inducing in game. Because none of the npcs will shoot it.

[@samronin1141]

I mostly agree. However I treat the Mokai as you say with Iconians. The impulse burst is a battleship ability so keep range from those and you are home free. Now they will also move quickly away from spawn so you do want to primary them to remove that ability from the field quickly, but it can be done and using that minimises how often you get hit by the wave and need to engineering team counter it. Admittedly this comes from power levelling alts using Jem Hadar Vanguard ships to farm stuff like Ninth Rule. Polaron sweep attack wing ships on the spawns for lots of kills and levelling XP. :)

[@antarfodoh]

My arch nemesis is just any enemy with feedback or reflection. With a 1M+ DPS build, they are insta-death for me.

[@matthewpena3932]

I really hope server lag is on this list.

[@tupe444]

I know that this is mainly based on space, but i'd put mirror borg on Kinda Difficult purely because they have the whole healing crystal thing, which can sometimes make an encounter a bit more difficult then you'd normally get with the borg

[@Terixofevermore]

I also find the vaadwaur to be rage inducing depending on what ship your flying, if your in an escort, its absolutely rage inducing, because the escorts main advantage is to be able to reposition very quickly, but to move around vaadwaur is to run into there stupid mines.

[@Robotrik1]

Voth can be pretty difficult in that "defend Dranoor " tfo that Geordi gives . Especially on Elite pugs . Those are a likely loss in those . And for first timers, the Waadwur are a leap in difficulty, just like they were for us way back when . The Tholians also deserve a nod for shield tanking . Rescuing Romulan ships from them are a challenge to new players in their tfo .

[@rfowler69]

The Borg Queen Diamond and that bloody Feedback Pulse 4! I hate fighting them.

[@armagonarmagon3980]

House Mo’Kai are annoying as hell because of Viral Impulse Burst, I totally agree. Best thing to do is stay outside of a five kilometer radius of their battleships (the enemies who have VIB), and then take them down ASAP. Their cruisers are annoying because of a ship disable ability they possess. My personal banes are the Breen and the Hirogen. Their ability to pull me out of a firing mode, especially after clicking all of the abilities to boost the damage of that firing mode, never ceases to fill me with an all-consuming rage.

[@Kyuubi799]

Kingdom Borg placement I agree with, except when doing "Resistance of Starbase One". Their Sphere's self-destruct is a pain in the ass during the escort phase, being able to one shot the NPCs even on Normal, and I never seem to have Tractor Beam Repulsors when I need it.

[@mrtencza]

Federation and Terran science vessels have feedback pulse to. I would also put the Vaudwaar in the rage induced rage quitting because for Korfez.

[@balung]

Korfez, yeap agreed, hate it when I get that TFO.

[@rakeshboodoo9404]

When STO went free to play the first enemies you fought was the borg and it had a story that tied in with the borg TFO's . They have changed intro enemies a bunch of times now. Klingons were always the 1st story arc tho.

[@tomasr.]

When compared on the Dranuur Gauntler, I think the Voth are the hardest, due to the great durability of the dreadnoughts and the reflecting damage ability. Of course you have to play on elite, those from the Dyson sphere does not count. The Mo'kai ability has a range of only 5km, just like the Mirror Borg ability, the difference is that the Mo'kai only sends you on a trip, while the Borg deals big blows.

[@marhawkman303]

yeah the mokai are only a mild annoyance to me.

[@MistiMoan]

Do hanger pets benefit from intel rear arc abilities?

[@JohnPates]

I remember when playing through and not having much trouble until Delta Rising was released. One of those races was beating the hell out of me. But I can't remember which one. I just remember they hit hard.

[@zezashetan]

Being someone who does a lot of Research and Rescue, the Mokai Klingons are challenging.

[@zezashetan]

Also, I have rage quit versus the Vaudwaar. When they get an ability that shuts off your engines, they get a barrage off, GRRR!

[@canisblack]

I remember the D'deridex when I was new to the game. It was such a PITA. I ended up having to actually go and buy the Prometheus from the shop to get past it. I have since learned how to properly do it, but I still remember those early days.

[@danielcostanza1029]

Those good ole days.

[@skylerphoenix8880]

We need a T6 version of the Malon ship.

[@raphaellubbers1759]

After having X2ed my T5, that would kinda suck, tho.

[@saricubra2867]

I got wrecked in Kobayashi Maru with my team because we were fighting several Borg Cubes and Iconians... great. Iconians disable your ship and the Borg eat your shields...

[@Arrowthorne]

Man I hate fighting: Vaadwuar: their polaron barrage and heat seeking tricobalt torpedo/mines are annoying. Discovery KDF; Viral Impulse Burst everywhere, constantly, all the time. Also Transport Warhead, why yes I do want a torpedo to cause 25-50% of my hull to vanish with no stopping it, thank you! Breen: Their transphasic torpedo's under Spread hits surprisingly hard, also their ability disables are a pain if they catch you on cooldown. Tzenkethi: Invulnerable all the time, every time. Also Gravity Kills, enough said. everything else is so much easier.

[@DgtlRnn042]

Personally, I have found the Tzenkethi to be tanky, but not bulletproof... You are on point with the Breen, they HURT. :(

[@marhawkman303]

There IS a counter to transport warhead. Not sure what there is other than intel team though. But it's also a good reason to have something like Aux2SIF for a short term DRR boost. It only ignores SHIELDS, it doesn't ignore ARMOR.

[@Shinyspddmn]

I almost forgot about that damned cloak tracking torp, it's like playing with a 5 year old, they just keep pulling random crap out to keep you from winning

[@furonguy42]

Honestly, even though they're only in the one mission so far, the Son'a could potentially be classified as Fury Induced Rage Quitting - that boss you have to fight spams an ability that makes Energy Weapons heal it. Unless you're already flying a torpedo build, the first time you ever bring a character into that mission, you will not be prepared for it, and even when you are prepared, the friendly NPCs in that mission will still shoot at it with their beams - it doesn't heal it as much as player weapons obviously, but it can still make the fight overstay its welcome. And on the subject of boss fights that spam healing... the Mirror Borg Unimatrix in "Scorpion's Abyss" just keeps farting out _so many_ Regeneration Probes. Even with my best builds, that boss can take about 20 minutes of just constantly spamming spread or AoE abilities and keeping my eyes peeled in case any Regen probes are sitting out of range. It's not enough to ruin the whole faction, largely because we fight the Mirror Borg plenty of other times without the boss, (unlike the Son'a), but its absolutely my least favorite combat encounter in the entirety of STO.

[@danielsmith9531]

Great video, fun topic!

[@kronosaur417]

The Vaudwar are the bane of my existence, I hate playing through the Delta Rising campaign because of them and them alone. The Mokai Klingons used to be my most hated enemy due to me not knowing how to properly equip my ships, (the Birds of pray would pile up on my tail somehow avoiding all my attacks)

[@MistiMoan]

Btw the Borg are starting treks version of zombies. How are they not harder in the game

[@jonnybridin]

100% agree about the Mokai! Rhe single most annoying thing in the game! The only thing I find raging about the borg, is the spheres when they use shield drain.

[@SampoPaalanen]

What annoys me the most with Mo'kai and Hirogen is that without their tricks they're pretty much cake walks, they're not hard they have this one trick that makes them extremely annoying.

[@robsolf]

I absolutely HATE the Mokai, and the minute I saw this vid, I knew this list was made for them. What's most annoying is they spam it constantly. I wonder if swapping in a mk1 engine would help with these guys.

[@tomasr.]

Viral Impulse Burst has only a range of 5 km, so stop sticking to them and you'll be fine. ;)

[@brother_bear_one7340]

@@tomasr. Engineering Team also clears it.

[@robsolf]

@@brother_bear_one7340 Yes. And then 10 seconds later, even while ET is still going, a different mobs spams it and off you go, again. Reminds me of ground combat at launch, where Klingons would constantly spam sweep on you and you'd spend 80% of the fight prone.

[@helmsmns]

Stacks of subnuke spam drive me totally crazy.

[@jonathontoney2338]

"Vaduar dont have anything that will critically disable your ship" :Constriction Anchor has entered chat:

[@Stu1701]

I always forget about those. They're very easy to destroy with most AoE abilities

[@jonathontoney2338]

@@Stu1701 Agreed, I always think about the patrol with the solar flare or whatever that knocks out your shields when I think of these things. They always pop up right when things are on cooldown lol just annoying.

[@penguinmaster7]

my most hated enemy to fight is anything with feedback pulse. as someone who uses beams exclusively, having to limit myself to consoles to fight them for the whole duration is just plain annoying.

[@poetscotty]

I hope the Voth come back as a bigger threat with Hirogen, and Tzenkethi become another power. I'm surprised Hur'q haven't been back.

[@evan.dorian]

As soon as I saw this video, I knew I would hear a rant about the Mo'Kai. Feeling validated lol

[@bufanda]

I hate the Mo'kai as well. I almost destroyed once my keyboard because of them.

[@MysticTree44]

I would have moved the mirror borg to "kinda difficult" because on elite, the Assimilators have a really mean hull drain ability that you can't remove from yourself. It's basically a 1 shot kill if you don't have enough healing on you. Where would you put the Undine on this list? (They show up quite a few times) Happy Holidays Mr. Stu!!!

[@Stu1701]

OH MY GOD I FORGOT THE UNDINE I blame Sinder. I showed her the list before recording and she only called out the Remans!

[@GalacticGaming96220]

​@@Stu1701 oh fuck you you also forgot lol

[@MysticTree44]

@Stu1701 Damn it Sinder! The Undine even have their own Battle Zone!!!

[@GalacticGaming96220]

@MysticTree44 I DON'T GO THERE THE UNDINE SUCK

[@MysticTree44]

@GalacticGaming96220 HEY! Undine are cool! You suck! (You don't)

[@mesner5x]

Kremim, Sphere Builders and Nakhul are only rage inducing IMO in the Battle of Procyon V TFO. During the third wave when all three factions are attacking you when you're trying to close the damn time portals is MEGA annoying. The Mokai are the sole reason that I must put engineering team on each of my builds as I run patrols a lot. Their STUPID viral impulse overload ability pisses me off to no end.

[@erics8192]

vaadwaur should be in rage quit for one reason.......battle of korfez.

[@jmg4208]

I get that tfo 3-4 times a day.

[@erics8192]

@@jmg4208damn, how many TFO's do you run per day?

[@nunya3163]

I would have put the Cardassians as easy win, as they are so early in the game. Although I can understand an argument for Reasonable Challenge, when facing the two Keldons above Bajor, with their ship replication. That killed me a few times early on. Honestly, I think STO did the Cardassians dirty, and really needs to revisit them top to bottom.

[@joeykerr5517]

VIB and FP are the 2 things that make me angry especially when it's FP4. I think only the Queen's diamond has that though. I really have to stop taking beam bulids in those TFOs.

[@drakron]

Just a note, Terran and Starfleet ships have the same abilities ... you wont get FBP on every Terram ship, just their science ships and Starfleet science ships do have that ability as well, same with their escorts having phaser point defense or should I say "what nice hangar pets you have, it would be a shame if someone just deleted then" but even as KDF you wont face Starfleet that much. And there is one thing of note with the Gorn, the Draguas Support Vessel and the Aceton Assimilator if you have FAW or CSV is a big problem, they did gave the Voth a variation of it and last the NPC Negh'Var and the Isometric Charge, granted due to all the reworks and removals those are rarely a threat this days as the Isometric Charge was only a real issue in SB24 because it was group content as the Draguas Support Vessel is now rarely seen for the same reasons. I do hate the Vaudwar because even with a decent build they are annoying to fight as all their ships have that barrage ability, some do retain their tric mines post nerf and their Interdictors are incredible annoying as they just teleport 20km away and keep deploying ships, the Breen arent as bad as before since back in the day we have to invest in skills to decrease Drain effects as today a single point covers most of it, I never found the Cardassian ships too much of a problem myself outside the FBP and the Photonic Fleet but its kinda like Starfleet these days, you fight then like once or twice in story missions as they were a lot more involved before the "re-moval" of the Cardassian Struggle Arc.

[@ubiratamuniz]

What about the Undine, dude? About the Vaudwaur (I can never write that correctly LOL) aid put them in “fury induced rage quitting” for one simple reason: Batrle of Korfez TFO.

[@AssassinsBlade25]

Korfez the turei part is an absolute joke, so the vaudwaur in that part of korfez is just a complete joke, constriction anchor with those polaron barrages plus there are like 100 heavy artillery vessels Vs just 5 of you in the tfo. The turei part needs serious work.

[@skylerphoenix8880]

In lore, Klinks are weak pushovers. How many times did Worf get his booty kicked and disarmed? All he did was look annoyed.

[@ronanwaring3408]

The vardwarr are one of the hardest, but it's usually because the modern games story gear you get before you fight them, are pretty non existant you don't get any nice bonus sets unless you play the one dyson mission on repeat and the old dominion and breen story arcs, and even then there very meh due to not being updated but that's also why the older arcs give you nothing before delta but goodish stuff after.

[@pcubed664]

Anything with Feedback pulse or disables is rage inducing.

[@chrisjohnson1146]

I disagree with placing the Federation at Easy Win. The reason I say this is because they use a lot of console abilities that are available to players like Escorts having Point Defense (REALLY annoying for Carrier Captains to deal with). Not only that, the Federation and the Terrans share the same AI and ship classes. You get high level Feds you're basically fighting the same kind of ships as Terrans, all with console abilities. You may be right about Early Fed, but if you happen to get Endgame Fed... its the same as the Terrans, maybe worse because I don't think Terrans can have NPC Vestas Also you forgot the Undine.

[@beholder9]

Vaadwar and House Mokai should be at the top of the list.

[@neomt2]

Atherians could soon be S-tier #1 if rumors are true about their "true motives"....😮

[@LoneTiger]

The Mo'Kai Klingons are also annoying as hell with their transporter warheads.

[@nick5661]

I didn't know that The krenim have no temporal abilities, I'm thinking I thought they had because I only have the event ship and timeline stabiliser made me think it had it. Talk about a Mandela effect 😂

[@marhawkman303]

They have temporal THEMED ship powers, but it's not the same powers we have as BOff abilities. So they do have temporal abilities... with a small t....

[@belarisbella3646]

If subnuke can be the reason why one is in the highest, then Breen is undoubtedly the same, as they also have a large number of Subnuke

[@Stu1701]

I always forget that the Breen have subnuc for some reason. I don't get hit with it nearly as often from them as I do the Hirogen.

[@billyyank2198]

What about the Galactic Empire? Or the Cylons? Or the Spaceballs?

[@Terixofevermore]

Fighting the Mo Kai in a cruiser is very frustrating Ideed. Do they not realize how long it takes me to turn this ship around?! lol

[@Moxnix1701]

Fun idea for a video! Happy Holidays!

[@arnemurraymeyer]

Is there a quick and easy reference to check before buying a new ship, if you already have a generic variant of that class , but with a different name and or faction or skin, or on another alt toon , already acquired from say an anniv bundle , mudds package, etc? (its confusing to me to kno off hand that ship y is a variant of ship x by a different title, that i already have somewhere on my account).

[@pharazul295]

Haven't watched yet but if the Vaadwaur & Na'kuhl arent the top two I can't trust this man's judgement.

[@robsolf]

6:40 The gas clouds I put out are also very obnoxious.

[@chrisjohnson1146]

I once made a ship with every gas venting ability in the game that could be put on a cruiser. Was entertaining.

[@elpatron549]

NPC torpedo scaling needs a revamp, as well as NPC feedback pulse

[@nsr-ints]

Ye why can't *MY* feedback pulse do that!!​

[@emmamacfarlane8137]

I’d rate the most annoying as the Mo’Kai for the fucking viral impulse burst

[@Lukos0036]

What damage type does the Borg Kingdom use?

[@zalo9802]

Me, after using all my procs and damage to focus that Nakhul ship only for it to divide and become inmune: 🤡

[@FrozenKnight21]

I'll be honest, I'm not sure this list is even needed. It seems that it's not the factions that are annoying it's the abilities. For example the Borg sphere AOE that could 1-shot most ships was for a time one of the hardest races to deal with. But once we learned how to deal with it, it became a trivial thing to avoid. But if i had to pick a race that causes me the most issues, it's the Vaudwar. The Kenetic Barrages they put out are a high damage large area AOE, and it's an ability they spam. You can end up with 4-5 of them on top of each other. But then again it's an ability, not a faction that I am having difficulty with. I think this may have been better as an ability tier list. Now that I think about it, a series of updated videos with tier lists on things like warp cores, deflectors, etc.. (With where to find them) would be nice. We have so many videos on things like traits and consoles, and while updated videos on those would be nice. (Considering recent changes to the meta.) But there is so little discussing the differences in choice of things like which shields to use, and what works with what.

[@Stu1701]

... gee, thanks I'll be honest, I'm not sure this comment is even needed, either.

[@FrozenKnight21]

@Stu1701 fair. I guess I'm just at a point where all star trek races feel, kinda the same. Different appearance, slightly diffrent quark, same template. For a federation that wants peace across the galaxy, they sure destroy a lot. I guess with sto, it comes down to. Which abilities are the most annoying.

[@Orodreth888]

Any enemy that makes you not be able to fire your weapons or activate your buffs is annoying to fight. All other are just DPS races. This is unfortunately the extend of this game's gameplay, once you are a little bit into the game.

[@QuantumNova]

Federation is not a easy. You just never battled against the frigates with the point defense system. It could wreck an elite player on normal if your not careful. It does 80k DPS (times 8) to the player on Elite. Not sure if bugged. Any fed ship with a Quantum spread III will also one-shot the player on elite. (190k times 4.)

[@khidorahian]

Vaadwaur is FIRQ imo, same with Breen. Mirror borg are annoying to deal with so I'd move them to RD. Other than that, I agree with your placements. Also, where's the tier list?

[@Stu1701]

I put it in the description, but forgot to put it in the pinned comment. I have fixed that, it should now be in the pinned comment as well.

[@khidorahian]

@@Stu1701 awesome, thank you very much

[@matthewkeeling886]

Vaadwar and Iconians should be Rage Inducing due purely to the obnoxious Constriction Anchors and Virus Probes respectively since FaW seems to largely ignore them. Other than that, Hirogen should be in Kinda Difficult (they don't seem to use their annoying abilities all that much, the others spam them) and you might be giving too much credit to the Bore-g's fighting abilities. Also, Disco-Klingons are more annoying than you let on: seriously STOP Viral Impulse Bursting me into planetary atmospheres!

[@davidkaye8712]

Mokai, nuff said.....

[@gorillazzilla]

The Undine/Species 8472 isn't on here.

[@Stu1701]

see pinned comment

[@yelwinmoisesacostaduarte8915]

what about good fihts tier lits in the game

[@Ulkomaalainen]

Gotta disagree. The Hirogen are not the Mo'Kai. They don't deserve being treated the same way. Shutting my systems off is one thing, and it is annoying, but it is fair, I do that to them all the time. Sending me halfway to another universe? I have to fly back all the way to get into a combat which isn't even exciting because they don't have anything to offer apart from that? That is BS. Hirogen give you a taste of your own medicine. Mo'Kai don't play fair and don't even profit from it, they just prolong the battle. They are just annoying trolls.

[@ussenterprisecv6231]

My favorite is federation and terran

[@MistiMoan]

9:27 benthen guard are just as bad as the iconions for annoyance

[@danielcostanza1029]

They are your allies kinda when you do fight them, it's been a long time so I don't remember fighting them.

[@MistiMoan]

@danielcostanza1029 there is a patrol where you choose to flight them or their counterparts the Hazari.

[@axelhopfinger533]

Discovery Mo'Kai are as annoying as they are ugly.

[@kaspi001]

The Tzenkethi are just annoying damage sponges.

[@christophermosier3754]

I hate the Vaudwar 🤨

[@paul_8472]

Disco kdf are the WORST!!! Using eng team clears the viral bust but you can be hit with it again right away. If eng team gave a short immunity to viral impulse bursts, then that wouldn't bother us so badly. If you're running "search and rescue" patrol, just complete remove your impulse engine before rejoing whats her name at the end. Be a sitting tank with beam fire at will and wide angle torpedoes. They can't send you to plad if you don't have an engine.

[@briankriens5645]

Klingorks are the worst with their special annoying attack.

[@tomasr.]

Annoying is the wrong word. Because the more difficult, the more fun. And we're not playing Dark Souls here, it's not a difficulty that would be annoying, everything can be beaten in STO. Btw Subnucleonic beam can be countered with Science team. I know you're not playing it.

[@Stu1701]

Of course I'm not running Science team, I need that room for Uncon Triggers

[@tomasr.]

@@Stu1701 With your gear and how you play, I don't believe any enemy can be annoying, maybe you'll find annoying the square with hp is somehow holding you back and instead of 300k dps you only have 280k. Horrible lol.

[@Stu1701]

Builds are very reliant on being able to activate abilities. Subnuc completely disable the ability to activate them. Thus: annoying. VIB is just as because because it ends me careening out of range of everything.

[@SaintDaisley]

The Mokai are straight up broken. The game throws hordes around all the time, so giving them an ability like that intel torpedo transport and viral overload to SPAM is ridiculous because the abilities designed to stop those things are irrelevant; the Mokai can just keep spamming them over and over and over and your abilities become meaningless. They are the absolute #1 most broken space faction. Their torpedo transport is ignored far too much here; they will straight up destroy you easily just spamming that if you're not a long term player who takes absurd tanking ability for granted. The Undine aren't necessarily strong, they're *boring* in the extreme. Their whole thing is shutting down movement or bumping you around. There's stupid rifts with giant glowy balls floating around that persist for WAAAAAAY too long just tractoring you forever and ever. And when one stops, another one pops up. So you're just endlessly locked down and it's boring, boring, boring. They're a miserable experience to fight and, again, abilities are meaningless. The Vaadwaur.....actually aren't that powerful. The problem with the Vaadwaur I've found doing the Delta episodes recently is that they appear in a bunch of VERY badly designed missions. Like, absolutely terrible missions. That patrol where you're saving Borg is the absolute peak for this. A faction that excels in basically space artillery, so what we'll do, right, is throw way too big deathballs of them at the player, yeah, and get this, we'll periodically just turn off the player's shields. Yes, I am a game designer. No I don't play the game myself, why are you asking? When you take on the Vaadwaur in better designed missions they're less obnoxious than the Tzenkethi; you can prioritize destroying artillery ships first and then start on the assault cruisers, and they're not very tough. Yeah, the Hirogen faction is entirely propped up by Subnucleanic Beam. That's it. Literally only that. Just that. It's not the ship disable that's the problem....subnuke strips your buffs and dumpsters your ability cooldowns.....in a game where the entire experience revolves around abilities.

[@smashdintel6406]

Elite Battle of Korfez, Still to this day the only TFO that people quit out on or just die over and over the only one (Xbox) your list needs a rework in my opinion vadwaar blue Xs are pure rage inducing until you understand what evasive and emergency power to engines are for. Nah Heralds are pushovers just fly better. Terrans REALLY! LOL sir just lol pure cannon fodder. Still its your list and i do agree with most but these ones personally i disagree. (Edit) I forget just how powerful some of my ships are. Plus undine are just annoying.