Star Trek: 10 Hated Characters You Grew To Love

[@StephenJEscobedo]

Nog would have been NOTHING without the acting depth of Aron Eisenberg. He was phenomenal. 😞 Okay, the writers were excellent, too.

[@edkwon]

Paired with the fantastic character writing, let's not shortchange the writers as well, it's too easy to given the visible face actors all the credit

[@StephenJEscobedo]

@edkwon I edited my comment to agree with you.

[@savaged49]

What they should have done with neelix and kess was make him her adopted father. Considering how fast okapans grow he could have found her as little girl. Then all his protectiveness over her transfers well. He isn't jealous someone is flirting with his girl, he is now an overprotective father who can't see his little girl has grown into an adult

[@bjorn00000]

They just wrote themselves into a corner with Neelix immediately, given that he outlived his usefulness as a local guide in "Fair Trade". They should have had a rotating position of "local guide", and gotten rid of him by the end of season 2.

[@Bazookatone1]

Or simply never say that ocompans only live for 9 years, it was in the pilot, maybe appeared in three other episodes and was otherwise a complete irrelevance. and maybe not dress Kes in a costume and hair style that made her look like a child as well?

[@BS-vx8dg]

@@bjorn00000 _They should have had a rotating position of "local guide", and gotten rid of him by the end of season 2_ Brilliant idea, Bjorn. Neelix is one of several reasons I could not finish VOY.

[@loupetron]

Shaw was the best part of Picard season 3 for me. The depth of acting that Stashwick brought to the character was incredible. Playing a right mean character but showing the complexity of a broken man. And that speech on the holodeck, I had tears in my eyes and goosebumps. He made Wolf 359 so much more raw and real than any depiction on screen.

[@devinflint5554]

His one line that sums him up perfectly is "Forgive me, at some point asshole became a substitute for charm."

[@alpine_newt]

That's got to be very satisfying for an actor. Imagine seeing comments after your first episode, "What a jerk, hate this guy!", then after your last episode, "We love him, he needs his own series!". I imagine the writers are wondering if killing him off was the right thing to do. Yes the death had impact, but there could have been so much to explore.

[@oliknow]

@@alpine_newt the writers knew full well that it was the right choice. for the character and for the audience. it is much easier to write a character redemption when the characters life is ended within the shown events. and you have to admit that they fully achieved the goal they had for Shaw

[@AdventuresonTour]

Killing Shaw off was just wrong.. they could have just left him in sickbay..

[@sarahkinsey5434]

@@oliknow There are reasons why we love the complex bad guys. It's so much more interesting than one note characters, good or bad

[@peabody1976]

Someone not on the list who absolutely belongs: Lwaxana Troi. As I started watching TNG in its first season when I was 11, I absolutely remember people hating her character, and her first three (of six mostly-yearly) outings had her as a bruising, overbearing smother who was also a pain to the Enterprise-D crew, it was her turns in "Half A Life" and "Dark Page" that finally changed minds, and her interactions with Odo on DS9 that truly gave her wings. (Bajoran Gratitude Festival notwithstanding. "Fascination") My guess is that they learned from the "writing badly for women characters" in seasons 1 and 2 that made "Menage a Troi" actually work, and her appearances going forward. Many LGBTQ+ Trekkies now see her as the "Fun Space Auntie", even in her first three appearances -- now. But especially "Haven" and "Manhunt" were not favourite Troi outings when I was a kid.

[@Rockhound6165]

Majel Barrett deserved an Emmy for Dark Page. I mean anyone who didn't feel for Lwaxana for what she went through doesn't have a heart and it made you understand why she was so protective of Deanna.

[@fredrika27]

@@Rockhound6165 Well spoken. I almost feared she would be on that list along with Troi whom many male fans love to hate as they secretly think their dirty thoughts!

[@bobbywinstead1]

I actually liked Pulaski. But Data gave her a burn she never recovered from. 🤣🤣🤣 Data: "DAYTA - you called me Dah-ta". Pulaski: (laughs at him) "What's the difference?" Data: "One is my name - the other is NOT."

[@josephpetrino1741]

Her episodes were good. A rarity in Season 2. I liked her also.

[@bobbywinstead1]

@@josephpetrino1741 That's what I was thinking too. The writing was hit or miss for the first 2 seasons, but she was featured prominently in some of the better written episodes (Times Squared, Elementary Dear Data, Unnatural Selection). Crusher was more likable, but the Crusher-centric episodes ranged from decent to utter disaster. Space ghost!

[@benjauron5873]

Of the Enterprise D's two chief medical officers, Dr. Pulaski was the LEAST insufferable.

[@brynpookc1127]

I enjoyed Dr. Pulaski, no-nonsense, serious and taking no guff. She stood out because she wasn’t a cheery, cheery girly but a grown woman. Come to think of it, the only character that annoyed me (and still does) is Wesley. Whenever he appeared, my brain just shouted, “GO AWAY WESLEY!

[@BS-vx8dg]

@@bobbywinstead1 I have always found Time Squared to be one of the worst TNG episodes ever.

[@meacadwell]

I never disliked Wesley...even when TNG was first on the air as a new show. It wasn't until much later that I found out people hated him.

[@BubbaSmurft]

2nd

[@simmyjester]

Same, though I was a small child (elder millennial) when TNG was first airing, so the youngest main character was the easiest to identify with at the time.

[@MsAlexisPiazza]

Honorable mentions: Q, Nechaeyev, and Jellico

[@bobina05]

You just had to bribe Nechaeyev with sweets. lol

[@illykitten]

Wesley was my idol growing up - a kid that can run circles around the adults, and who gets to be on the bridge every day? Are you kidding? Wesley was always great, and he was my lens into the Star Trek world as I was mostly re-watching Star Trek IV prior XD

[@bakusfu8127]

wtf he was annoying and a mary sue male equivalent

[@jplum7708]

​@@bakusfu8127 Genuine question. I'm not familiar with the reference Mary Sue male equivalent. Sorry, but what does that mean? Thank you for your observations.

[@x5992]

I'm surprised Dumar didn't make the list. He started out as Dukat's lackey, killing Ziyal, working with Weyoun, to finally leading a rebellion and dying for a free Cardassia.

[@MishraArtificer]

Oh, shit, you're right...Damar should be on this list.

[@nancyomalley6286]

#5. LOVED JULIAN FROM THE BEGINNING! ❤️❤️❤️

[@davidpumpkinsjr.5108]

I always liked Neelix. He's a friendlier, less shifty version of Quark. Early Bashir was a bit annoying; I'll agree to that. I understand why people disliked Wesley, at first, but it was wrong that people extended that hatred to Will Weaton.

[@bakusfu8127]

no not will wheaton wesley was bad

[@SwedishDeathLlama]

Pulaski disrespected Data and she will not be forgiven. Harumph.

[@JohnDoe-i5z5c]

I don’t think she “disrespected” Data as much as saw Data as a robot or a household appliances that could walk around and talk back. It did highlight, going back to Measure of a Man, that not everyone was ready to see Data as a life form. It also spoke to how Data earned the respect of his crew mates through season one and Pulaski was dropped in at season two not going through the same journey as the rest of the crew.

[@LiarNobody]

The problem is that the writers wanted her and Data to have a Bones / Spock sort of relationship, but they ignored that Data is not a "witty" character who can throw jabs as hard as he receives him so it just winds up looking like pointless bullying.

[@hartofnixie7060]

​@@LiarNobody In excellent observation.

[@EckoRome]

Yea I hated when she called him Data and not Data 😉

[@andrewstephen2359]

She made a poor assumption one time then corrected herself and supported him from then on in. Picard and Riker made more poor assumptions about him than she did.

[@user-po9pv7rw1g]

mine is peanut hamper!!! i hated her when it was just the first two episodes featuring her, but then the third hit and idk she just grew on me. enough to name my robot vacuum after her. also as an autistic person, julian bashir's character progression is complicated for me. yes, he got less "annoying" compared to early seasons (and much less of a creep around women, which-thank god-very valid criticism of the writing there), but i see that as getting better at masking around people, which just displaces the discomfort/stress onto your internal life, which isn't a good thing in my view. in fact, i think it's hard for autistic people to exist in our present-day world without becoming at least a little traumatized, if not incurring some C-PTSD. but julian, poor guy, never had the option not to endure trauma. his nonconsensual genetic augmentation to "correct" his higher support-level neurodivergence already reads, to me, as a clear ABA metaphor. his childhood until he moved out must have been awful-his dad both always making him feel like he wasn't enough, and also projecting his feelings of inferiority onto his son whenever he felt threatened by julian's abilities... and his mom seems like she mostly went with it, didn't really stand up for him too much or give him the strong impression she thought he had been "enough," pre-enhancement. and then on top of it, he had to endure the stress of hiding his secret for decades, around people who made lots of snide comments about how boringly verbose, slutty, or "too much" he is/was (even saying they preferred a fake version of him to the real thing). (shoutout to garak for only ever politely and affectionately saying, "forgive me, but you're such a talkative man, it's odd for you to keep secrets" rather than stuff like ~dang that guy never shuts up~ while said guy is still in enhanced earshot.) so with all this in mind, plus the dominion war giving everyone normal PTSD too, julian's more sedate, "mature" personality in later seasons just breaks my heart a little. i am now one year older than his character was in the last season of DS9, i've got C-PTSD myself and am truly not sure i will survive the next 4 years thanks to the folks taking power in my country. i've also proudly fought to (autistically) mask less, to keep the lighter, goofier, less serious aspects of my personality, etc. i still find myself "pulling a julian" at times-infodumping without realizing that's what i'm doing, or otherwise being oblivious. so while it's good to see him meshing with the rest of the cast more as the seasons go on, i know it's coming at a personal cost that the show wasn't able to get into. (also, you can tell he vibed with the group of augments from the two later-season episodes, but i would've loved to at least see him mask less around them... that's more realistic for folks like us.) ...um, essay over, sorry, lol.

[@sfvamp9]

I'm also neurodivergent (AuDD) and I was a young child when DS9 first aired so take everything with a giant 30-year grain of salt. But I do remember absolutely adoring Bashir in the earlier episodes and getting annoyed with his progression in later episodes. But then I really didn't like a lot of what was popular in DS9 around that time and I have yet to revisit it or even finish it as I entered high school during its later seasons and was already disillusioned enough to not prioritize it. Paris was my fave in Voyager and I recently rewatched the pilot episode for the first time since it aired as well. I was a little disturbed by his behavior with the shuttle pilot when he was first taken aboard Voyager. It's possible that if I rewatched DS9 I'd also have a different opinion about Bashir (I mean Paris is still my fave and I still stand by the fact that the homogenization of Voyager was a critical fail from the get-go, but that's another rant lol). It's interesting to read your take, given one of the things holding me back from rewatching DS9 is how much I despised most of the main cast and how much I hated what happened to characters like Bashir, Worf, and Dax. I do love how much Lower Decks has done to reconcile so many bad decisions from the Star Trek PTB in the 90's and early 2000's. But I agree, trauma with masking only gets worse. The amount of people who think I'm an extroverted, happy person when I'm actually really introverted and hyper aware of my adapting toward extreme people-pleasing and what it's doing to undermine my mental and physical health is truly insane. It's hard to quantify to those who don't get it how much you eat your own brain on a daily basis so someone doesn't feel an "off vibe" from you and consequently make your life even more of a hell than it already is. I will def watch DS9 with a more nuanced look at Bashir with this in mind. Maybe young me "got it" before I had the words to express it and that's why he was my early fave.

[@kimera3083]

Sybok, Pulaski and Nelix I never grew to like. Just did not enjoy them at all. Also didn't hate Nog when he was introduced but was indifferent to him, however over the seasons he became a stellar character - Absolutely gutted when I learned about Aron Eisenberg passing too, but I will always remember him as Nog. Bashir? Annoying at first but what a finish, and that friendship with Garak; chef's kiss. And Liam Shaw will always be a badass to me. From his attitude, history with the Borg and Picard made him feel real and down to Earth. And final words to Seven were just... heartbreaking and beautiful.

[@MichaelSeminara]

What about Cyrano Jones? Stanley Adams was ALSO both the actor in TOS Trouble with Tribbles and the one who voiced him in STAS More Troubles More Tribbles...

[@charlesbailey7839]

Stanley Adams was asked back to play Cyrano Jones in the animated series in "More Tribbles, More Troubles" so....3 actors asked to return

[@deathstrike]

Aaron Eisenberg was so beloved by the 31st Century, he has a class of ship named after him. The Eisenberg Class USS Nog. To achieve have a ship named after you? He must have become a legend of a captain along the lines of Pike, Kirk, Janeway, and Seven of Nine.

[@joelarnold6159]

I was on Shaw’s side at first and only grew to dislike him. He acquitted himself well looking out for the safety of his crew, but between insisting on deadnaming Seven and misdirecting his anger over the trauma of Wolf 359 at Picard, *an unwilling participant and fellow victim of the Borg*, he came off as a sad and incompetent captain who let his unjustified personal feelings hurt others.

[@DreynHarry]

Nog and Rom are the best characters of DS9. And thats says a lot, coz the whole cast and characters have been brilliant

[@monkeytime9851]

Absolutely agree. Star Trek never again managed to reach the greatness that was DS9. Or TNG for that matter. Nothing since has been anywhere near as good as those two.

[@fonkbadonk5370]

They were great, but no one could ever surpass Garak. No one. Dukat would be a strong contender, and the obvious main cast of course, and so many more amazing actors and characters. But Garak was written and played so exceptionally damn well. He could easily have been the center point all of DS9 revolved around.

[@Seal0626]

SNW has done the opposite of redeem T'Pring. It has recast her from a woman in a desperate situation taking the only way out that was available to her to a homicidally vengeful ex who could have ended her engagement at any time, but instead chose to make her unwanted fiancé fight to the death. Giving her the option to back out of the engagement destroys her character.

[@scottk1938]

I hated Shaw with a passion in the beginning but by the end I was so sad for our beloved “dipshit from Chicago” 😢

[@KCKingdomCreateGreatTrekAgain]

Need a T-shirt for that.

[@fonkbadonk5370]

Samesies. At first I was like: Aw shoot, this season is going to be even worse, damn it. But then him, the reason I mostly thought this way for, slowly graduated to become the main reason I kept on watching. What an amazing performance! From childhood on I always said that Picard would be my first pick as my dad if my actual dad wasn't. That's the height of regard I hold this character in. But Stashwick somehow managed to almost overshadow him a little. In such a short timespan, compared to actual decades of me admiring Picard. Not in the want-dad-department, but character strength. Incredible. I really want to see him reprise his role in some kind of spinoff.

[@aoinatafanboy84]

I didnt exactly HATE him at first. Moatly because Im not a Picard stan and they kind of did hijack his ship and disrespected his command entirely. I loved him more as time went on but I can see what they were going for

[@RobertAlleva]

Great video! Watching videos like this reminds me just how long and epic Star Trek’s catalog of shows and movies is!

[@KingOfDoma]

Kinda bored at work, gonna give my opinions on every entry: 10, 0:38 - I like Ethan Phillips more than I like Neelix, but if him playing Neelix gets him work, he is always welcome 9, 1:24 - I think I always liked Harry, but probably because I saw I, Mudd before Mudd's Women... 8, 2:13 - ... full disclosure - never watched all of V in one sitting. Luckabill seems fun, though! 7, 3:01 - I WANT PULASKI TO GET A REDEMPTION ARC. BRING HER BACK FOR ST: LEGACY OR SOMETHING. SHE DESERVES TO BE REMEMBERED 6, 4:00 - what do I even say? Nog is a friggin' star and HIS "redemption" arc was amazing. Aron Eisenberg is sorely missed... 5, 4:59 - Same as above, except Siddig is still with us (forever, if we're lucky). Way to make a silk purse out of the sow's ear that was not being told you were a Khan, man! 4, 5:47 - I've liked Allison Pill's work ever since she was on The Newsroom (and then once I realized she was in Scott Pilgrim). Same here! Love a Jurati! :D 3, 6:53 - I was probably the target audience to like Wesley on TNG. Didn't QUITE work, but Wil Wheaton's awesomeness forced me to re-evaluate, and I've thought Wesley was a solid character for ages now. 2, 7:42 - I'M TELLING YOU, GO WATCH THE EPISODE "MORTAL COIL" AGAIN. IT WILL MAKE YOU SCREAM AT PARAMOUNT TO RESURRECT SHAW, CUZ IT'S THE *EASIEST THING TO EXPLAIN IN THE WORLD*. BRING SHAW BACK FOR LEGACY! :D 1, 8:38 - I never HATED T'Pring, cuz she was literally a one-off love interest to be ignored, but SNW wisely expanded her role and made her WAY more interesting. A great upgrade to a forgettable character! ... oh, I've added timestamps for some reason. Enjoy the utility I've added to my silly comment! :D

[@jakemeyer8188]

I don't know that Wesley Crusher was ever "accepted"...but Wil Wheaton was, and by extension, Wesley gets a pass.

[@fonkbadonk5370]

Agreed. Even as a teen, when the show originally aired in my country, where I kept a schedule to catch all episodes as much as possible, I tended to skip the Wesley-heavy ones once I noticed. (With the exception of the "traveler" one, which caught my young brain's imagination.) But Wheaton, as I much later discovered, is such a chill dude and so aware of the issues his character had, that I now can completely dismiss these and just enjoy the episodes in that context with no problems at all. What a proper lad.

[@SeattleSandro]

I got to meet and chat with Todd Stashwick, and man, do I really want Liam Shaw back in some form. Todd, who is a big nerd, is just the nicest guy with a great sense of humor. What most of us didn't realize when we first met Captain Shaw is that he was dealing with some serious & untreated PTSD (hello, where was the ship's counselor?) and having two people related to the massacre at Wolf 359 on his ship, at the same time, likely made him revert to being an asshole. Luckily, he was able to put that aside for the sake of the mission and he proved himself capable and worthy of recognition.

[@CarolineIronwill]

I'd like to add a few more to the list. All of whom annoyed me in the beginning, but whom I grew to love. -Ro Karren -Keiko Ishikawa O'Brien -Trip Tucker -Raffi Musicar -Beckett Mariner

[@michaelbayer5094]

Ro Laren was great from the moment she came on board. It was refreshing to see a messed-up, contrarian Star Fleet officer.

[@meiray]

Trip and Ro would be hot takes. They seemed to endear themselves to audiences right away.

[@rickjohnston8957]

I agree with everyone on the list except TRIP! Also didn't dislike Keiko. The writers just didn't develop her enough, so she didn't have enough to do to become extremely likable.

[@moniquevandoorn8347]

Keiko was terrible in every episode she was a part of. All she did was whine and complain about everything and everyone. What did Chief O’Brien see in her?

[@robertwestfall_M.A.R.S.O.]

“More Crusher, sir?” “Indeed! Please. “

[@usuckthereturn]

You know which character was awesome and became more so….MORN! He is my most coveted action figure!!

[@michaelbayer5094]

And he had the best lines. Those zingers! LOL!

[@Chilipontiff]

Shaw was the only adult on the titan, and he was right the whole time. Pulaski did nothing wrong either, she just doesn’t care about other people’s hangups

[@madiantin]

Pulaski: Hated her then, hate her now. I loved Dr. Crusher and when the new season began was excited to see her again. Along came Pulaski and, adding to my horror and confusion, she was not only curt and mean, but she was curt and mean to the character I loved the most: Data. From that point on it was a lost cause, and I didn't watch much of that season. Started watching again when she was gone and Crusher came back. Such a relief! I didn't even know until many years later that so many people hated Wesley. I loved him! I loved that he was so smart and level headed. I really liked his character.

[@TherionAtlas]

stashwick playing Shaw became my favorite trek chacter after season 3

[@MC-gj8fg]

Shaw and Vadic were the best new characters introduced into Star Trek in decades. In fact, it is due to these characters that the last time I enjoyed Star Trek this much was First Contact. Figure a way to resurrect these two and plug them into a series in a way that makes the slightest modicum of sense and I'll watch it!

[@williamkittler]

I think that the turn for the character Wesley came well after the airing of the episodes, but, after Will Wheaton, the actor, started sharing his behind the scene stories of how horribly he was treated by the original cast. There is an absolutely remarkable video of his rendition of his first meeting with William Shatner… I think that given time, the viewers came to accept the character and were able to separate the actor from the character. I’m so glad to see he’s been able to be embraced by the entire community again. His You Tube series is great!

[@devinflint5554]

It wasn't the cast that treated him horribly. His parents were incredibly abusive to him the whole time, but since they were always on set with him, they could keep up appearances so that the entire cast had no idea. By all accounts the actual cast were all friendly with him.

[@williamkittler]

@ the cat he was with was very supportive of him. It was the original cast like I pointed out.

[@bjorn00000]

@@williamkittler It was only William Shatner, and it was specifically related to his experiences on the set of Star Trek V. His blog provides "The William F***ing Shatner Story" in all its glory.

[@devinflint5554]

@@williamkittler Gotcha, I missed that you meant "Original" as in TOS.

[@daniellewis3330]

I really liked when we saw Shaw's log, where he laments how boring being by-the-book is,but he doesn't know any other way to be, and he's excited to see how Seven will break the rules with her in the big chair.

[@alexhaladay4345]

I was disappointed Pulaski wasn't brought up in Picard.

[@bjorn00000]

My guess is that they wrote the scene in Picard season 1 with the CMO from the Stargazer with Diana Muldaur in mind, and they couldn't get her. Almost all the lines sounded like they could have been said by her... which is ironic since a lot of the scripts from season 3 of TNG were written for Pulaski but included Crusher instead.

[@BubbaSmurft]

Brought up as in vomit? Regurgitated like the bile filled mess that was her character? Thanks for the imagery.

[@jeanettecooper1582]

I liked Polaski better than Crusher. She had strength and passion where Chrusher seemed delicate, wimpy and easily manipulated. We should have kept Polaski. Her charicter would have evolved so much better while 'Chrusher just fizzled.

[@edkwon]

Pulaski was a more modern abrasive character who was a bit too ahead of her time

[@danielland3767]

Could you imange the both of them stayed on the ship possibly taking shifts, like you always have a chief officer on duty

[@benjauron5873]

Hear-hear! I have been saying that for 35 years.

[@shawn6860]

While I preferred Crusher I will agree that Polaski if written right and had she had more time to evolve could be a great character too.

[@edmonguy]

I always preferred Polaski to Crusher.

[@KILRtv]

What about Gul Dukat or Damar? They had their moments. I'm not sure if Quark was well liked in the beginning.

[@rickjohnston8957]

Yes, Quark and Damar should have been added to the list. Maybe in a part 2.

[@crazedvole]

The actor that played Cyrano Jones was not the same for t.v. show and cartoon?

[@grahamturner1290]

Actually, Stanley Adams also returned to TAS to reprise his character Cyrano Jones in "More Tribbles, More Troubles". 🖖

[@lesm6389]

Didn't dislike Pulaski, and even my young self at the time was already familiar with Diana Muldaur, but I was fully sold when Worf honored Dr Pulaski with a Klingon tea ceremony (as weird as that is...) even though she couldn't share in. Rather than exposit, she just went and got a hypospray so she could.

[@jimmyhunter1810]

I wish they had kept Shaw around. Stashwick is so charismatic and it would have been fun to see him pop up down the road in Legacy.

[@Rockhound6165]

Couple things. #1, the thing with Shaw and Seven was that Shaw greatness in Seven. Think of the relationship between Rocky and Mickey in Rocky. Mickey told Rocky that he thought Rocky had the tools to be a great fighter but he squandered his talent to be a goon for a loan shark. The same can be said for Shaw and Seven. He saw that Seven could be great if she would only apply herself. His posthumous endorsement of Seven for promotion to Captain proved me right. As for Wesley, I think Wil Wheaton's performance on The Big Bang Theory, which was fantastic, softened people to the Wesley character.

[@acedude112]

You guys left out the reveal that Shaw was at Wolf 359, and confronting Picard about it was a huge part of his character redemption. The man had serious survivors guilt, and legitimate concerns about Seven and Picard.

[@liamsmith4017]

I'm sorry, but NO. Captain Shaw did not call Seven by her Human name just to "push her buttons". This man watched thousands of his colleagues and friends die at Wolf 359, and ended up with some obvious PTSD from it. Even if it's not entirely forgivable, it is definitely understandable that such a man doesn't want to call his first officer by her Borg designation, and that should not be dismissed so flippantly.

[@meiray]

Still unprofessional.

[@annieworroll4373]

Sybok is a great character. Though I think he should have been a full brother to Spock, it would have given us a compelling look at another direction Spock could have gone in. The extra separation of being a half brother I think hurt that potential.

[@thecunninlynguist]

Shaw should be number one

[@silvantheiss8070]

Most people hated Shaw in 3.01 and hated the writers by the time of his death in 3.09

[@SheldonAdama17]

Picard: Make it so! Shaw: Make it NO!

[@davidusler4956]

I hate every character on Star Trek strange new worlds. I don't blame the actors, obviously the writers and directors for that show have never watched the Star Trek episode and don't know what they're doing,

[@soloseraphimheartsong3710]

Chakotay was the worst first officer ever. He constantly undermined Janeway and made poor decisions.

[@kadosho02]

Love every character, and amazing talents that brought them to life 🖖

[@jaimebabb9968]

I can't say I ever hated Jurati, but I definitely went from indifference to loving her in Picard season 2 (in fact, she was practically the only part of that season that I liked)

[@Vipre-]

SNW also fleshed out T'Pring through showing how much pressure she was under, particularly from her mother. She and Spock were doomed from the start for that and other reasons.

[@aoinatafanboy84]

Yeah, when Charades came around I was saying exactly what she did to Spock. He could have told her at any point and after the bodyswap. He could easily have gotten her to help

[@ch.k.3377]

Lorca, Giorgio, Shaw, Jellicoe... I can work with characters like that.

[@biffbamboo]

I never hated any of the classic pre Kurtzman characters that you mentioned. And you totally lost me at Bashir.

[@Juro-lk7xf]

Actually, Captain Shaw is a character which I loved from the very start. 😊

[@Enchantmentofeternity]

Neelix: Always liked him Harry Mudd: Still hate him Sybok: Ok, he did grow on me Pulaski: Still don't like her Nog: Still don't like him, his character arc was so artificial and I still don't buy it Dr. Bashir: Totally agree with you here Dr. Jurati: What are you talking about?! Season 2 made her worse not better Wesley Crusher: Still don't like him (sorry) Captain Shaw: Never really hated him per say, I just don't find his character interesting T'Pring: SNW made her better in Season 1, but then worse again in Season 2

[@src6339]

Many of those "hated" characters are characters who i learned where in the show, whilst others are simply those i learned to forget and others still where characters i learned where hated. 🤔

[@StevenHouse1980]

It could be worse you could have a ship's counselor, who likes acting as the biggest A-hole in the ship just to build better crew cohesion.

[@maryvon8518]

interesting. Can you give some examples? I always found Troy forgettable/pointless but not a bully.

[@vic5015]

Sometimes wgst the crew needs is someone to hate together.

[@AdamJX602]

Admiral Vance should be on the list… he started off so abrasive and understandably, intentionally dislikable… then ended as my favourite Star Trek admiral

[@zackisrael7372]

Nog has the best character arc out of any character in Star Trek side or not.

[@muralwallace2388]

I'm surprised that Tom Paris wasn't out on this list

[@kineuhansen8629]

feel like season 3 of prodigy would be perfect to bring neelix back anyone no just me then ok he is one of my all time favorite in star trek the fact that dr pulaski and nog got a ship named after them is great to see and i give anything to see nog back i take it in animated form

[@victorialawhon2251]

Only just got into DS9 earlier this year (better late than never) and it may sound weird, but I have a crush on Dukat. There, I admitted it! 😁

[@MishraArtificer]

Yeah, Marc Alaimo does bring on the charm...that was actually a problem, after a while.

[@BS-vx8dg]

_Only just got into DS9 earlier this year_ How far into it are you?

[@philly83]

I've been rewatching season 1 of DS9 and Bashir was so cringe

[@danielbyrne5402]

Pulaski? Lol, ok that one flew over me

[@jasonporter5885]

There was Nog hate? Loved Nog, especially in later seasons. Definitely hated Shaw at first, but he turned out to be incredibly hardcore.

[@sw-gs]

He was annoying in first two seasons.

[@6XGate]

I've always thought that about Dr Pulaski when first I heard the fans didn't like her. Always felt Crusher was more 2 dimensional when put next to Pulaski at times.

[@Nedski42YT]

Audio in this video is much improved. Sean's narration is intelligible, while the background music ducks appropriately. Thanks.

[@SatoshiMatrix1]

Notice the absence of Michael Burnham on this list. If you didn't like her character at the start of Discovery, the show sure hasn't done anything to make you change your mind!

[@blanketfortressofsolitude5270]

Man, i loved Shaw from the jump. He called Picard on all of his nonsense.

[@MeepsGO]

I think i might actually go watch the show because I feel like I'll love this guy

[@TheInselaffen]

Polaski mentored T'ana at Starfleet Medical.

[@robsquared2]

Mudd also got a retroactive like since he kept killing what turned out to be a mirror universe villain.

[@danielbyrne5402]

I still say technically lore should be here. I believe to this day that its lore that survived in picard, data just gave him all of his experiences and memories so he coukd see things his way

[@edwardrhoades6957]

What about Damar?

[@TeamD2012]

We were watching an old Ghost Whisperer & saw Shaw. I’m like omg…that’s Shaw from Picard! It was his gorgeous eyes….

[@ArkNorth]

- Cough cough - Stanley Adams - Cough -

[@NobleHays]

I would say that while SNW makes T'Pring lovable, it constantly makes the T'Pring you see in TOS that much more hated and callous, I hope they find away out of the corner they're writing for her.

[@brettn68]

Shaw needs his own series

[@bjorn00000]

What is hilarious is seeing how hard they are trying in SNW to keep Uhura and T'Pring separated given a single throwaway line in TOS.

[@BS-vx8dg]

Please share, bjorn. I don't know of what you speak.

[@bjorn00000]

@BS-vx8dg Uhura doesn't recognize T'Pring in "Amok Time", but she's on the ship in SNW when T'Pring is hanging out with Spock.

[@BS-vx8dg]

@@bjorn00000 _Ahhhhhhh_ Thanks.

[@Capt.Marco-Hawk-L.L.A.P]

Always loved Neelix so lovable and nice Harcourt Fenton Mudd supreme ruler of all the multiverse he was awesome...Don't forget to hail the Mudd Nog was awesome always loved that guy he was one of my favourites, character development was just fantastic Dr Julian Bashir was always one of my favourites always found him likable and just really awesome, to this day I have his signed picture on my wall Wesley Crusher always liked him I wish they would bring him back maybe a series moving though the multiverse doing good things

[@told2stop]

While I liked Alison Pill and didnt hate Jurati as a character, I hated her story arc in S2. I thought the whole thing with her becoming a Borg Queen or whatever was just stupid.

[@reneelorraine]

Thank you

[@jeffreybischoff6772]

I actually liked Shaw from the beginning. A by the book military leader, where you know exactly what to do. Picard and Riker came with deception, and Shaw wasn't going to tolerate it. Shaw cared about his ship and crew, and it shows. Follow orders, and you'll excel, disobey orders and receive punishment. Right to the point, no ambiguity. Shaw also showed a different take with Picard from being Locutus, that isn't shown much, except Sisko. I'm sure there is a lot of animosity toward Picard/Locutus; that is prevalent in Starfleet, but not shown much. Although isn't Picard's fault, the scars are still there. I wished they had kept Shaw alive, and kept her the Titan-A; instead of rechristening her into Enterprise-G. This could have brought about Star Trek Titan series, bringing Star Trek into the 25th century, as a natural evolution. The 23rd century and 24th century have been done, and with today's technological advances in entertainment, it's time to move into the 25th century Star Trek.

[@roderickmain9697]

Fair comment. Dr. Pulaski was a character created because the show-runners didnt get on with Gates. It was an obvious misstep at the time. That said, there wasnt really anything inherently wrong with the character and her prejudice towards data was one of those typical ST moralising moments thats she (and the wider audience) was meant to learn from. Whereas, Shaw was deliberately made obnoxious to undermine fan fixation for certain characters. Blind fan fixation means you miss the flaws in their characters, Still, the character came to respect those he was initially sniffy about. Perhaps dont judge a book by its sleeve notes, Shaw. Ever since TOS, there have been obvious episodes where the plots have tried to reflect US geopolitics and their own internal politics but set in future where they can be "discussed" "safely". Mostly, once you recognise it, you wonder how many of its global audience will pick up on the points, And then there is Empress/Captain Philippa Georgiou ? Still TBD?

[@ApolloRacer]

I have to admit, I was kind of surprised that Q wasn't on the list. I was so sure he would have been near the top, but when it was revealed he wasn't on it, I had to ask myself, "Was he ever really hated throughout the franchise?" I suppose not, evidently.

[@blondiewan3331]

There have always been some viewers who found him annoying or unlikeable, but as far as I can tell they’ve always been a distinct minority; my perception as someone who watched TNG from its beginning with “Encounter at Farpoint” in 1987 has always been that most viewers love the character. Certainly I’ve never perceived a huge part of the fandom disliking Q the way they did, say, Wesley or Neelix (for example) at first.

[@andrewjacobs5686]

I really liked Shaw from the beginning and even more so as the enigmatic Captain Grumpy pants before they stole Sisko’s backstory and grudge against the Borg and Picard in particular because of Wolf 359, to copy paste it onto Shaw

[@MishraArtificer]

Over 40 ships and combined tens of thousands of Fleet personnel there...Sisko couldn't have been the *only* one to survive.

[@davidmckendry4491]

Captain harrimen should also be included and captain mariner of the u.s.s. Cerritos.

[@288theabe]

Neelix annoyed me throughout the entire 7 seasons of VOY. But Alison Pill in that red dress though....whew! 😍😍😍😍

[@zooropa04]

A woman on whom I've long had a hopeless crush LOVES Dr. Pulaski. Which means I should probably re-watch season 2 of TNG, lol.

[@SomeTheorist9090]

Neelix and Dr. Bashir are without redemption.

[@mooniejohnson]

I’m just sad about Matalas’s love of killing off Stashwick. 😢

[@Potrimpo]

If this list had included Edward Jellico, I was going to lose my sh!t. He had no redeeming qualities outside if getting Troi into an actual uniform. I never hated T'Pring, nor did I ever hate Wesley Crusher. The dipsh!t from Chicago was rightfully hated, but it wasn't a hate that couldn't last. He wasn't easy to get along with, but you still could.

[@bobbywinstead1]

What about Ronin, Beverly's space ghost sex toy? He's given us 40 years of laughs!

[@victorialawhon2251]

And he was hawt!

[@QBCPerdition]

​@victorialawhon2251 well, candles can get quite hot, be careful "playing" with them.

[@juanitajones6900]

I have always been a fan of Neelix. I've always liked Dr. Pulaski. And I never grew to like or love Captain Shaw. Next question?😊

[@SaberToothBicycle]

100% agree on T'Pring

[@Cam-jv7qy]

Becket Mariner

[@mudman619]

blasphemer! you take that back! (haha)

[@billadams9986]

Nope, never loved: #10, 8, 7 Yep, came to love: #9, 6, 5, 1 You're "begging the question," always loved: #4, 3, 2

[@TheFinancialAdvocacyPodcast]

2:12 - You mean "The laughing Vulcan and his dog"?

[@dentoncrimescene]

I certainly dont love neelix, but you dont look at a two year old dog and think it's creepy to breed it.