RANKING The BEST LEGENDS In Apex Legends Season 23! (Tier List)

[@TimProVision]

What do you think of the support class of legends in season 23 of Apex Legends? Don't forget to hit the like button and hop in the discord and say hello! Additional thanks to my channel members as well Hope we all have a GREAT Season & Holiday as they approach! *Edit: Some of you need to understand these tier lists are just a baseline and they are purely my thoughts on the meta from my 5-6K hours in game. There is no right or wrong way of ranking legends. Its completely up to the player to make the most of the legends and really every legend has viability in Apex. Just because some legend is one tier lower or higher, doesn't give you the right to insult me or anyone else in the comments.*

[@pascalakcan4613]

I have to say i like the way you deliver your legend tier Lists. That said i do disagree with a lot of the placements. Gibby, rev, wraith, ash, Loba and newcastle, wattson I would have placed differently. Most of them by 2 tiers so i think personally this is not an accurate List. Despite that i like your videos and keep it up.

[@TimProVision]

Thanks or the input. Rankings are pretty opinionated so there isn't really a right or wrong answer

[@ExoticFerarriF50]

Octane is actually good because he can easily go grab reboot card especially when there's a whole team fighting a little have an entire clip of me rushing in when there was 3 people looting my teammates stuff I picked their reboot cards and I ran away and they didn't even land 1 bullet on me and they didn't even shoot either cause it couldn't even shoot me

[@Professor_Finesser]

Crypto’s EMP NOT DESTROYING Gibby/Lifeline Ult is incredibly stupid. Idk why that was changed that’s the entire point of the EMP

[@TimProVision]

It was already a really niche counter, seems weird to remove it. Probably a strictly a pro play decision

[@aepheixa]

@@TimProVision NICHE counter? It's like one of three counters to them

[@Ravager-u2v]

1. Gibby's ult is constantly sending mortars, why woud it do anything when its a single flash of a EMP???? 2. Lifelines Ult is more similar to Gibby's bubble, which also doesn't get destroyed by crypto drone, thus it is correlated

[@Professor_Finesser]

@@Ravager-u2v my apologies gibby bubble and lifeline ult

[@JT-km6th]

Newcastle not being god tier makes me question if you’re playing ranked.

[@TimProVision]

Well considering the entire videos footage was in ranked lol

[@Briiiannn02]

@@TimProVisionfr 🤣

[@MoneyMindset500]

I agree Newcastle should be god tier for sure. Bro’s making gameleap’s tier list look good

[@tee-boppin_em8147]

True!! His quick Rez perk is insane! Especially if you have a lifeline, In Ranked game played today Me an a Lifeline literally rezd each other like 8 times before dieing

[@armonix5745]

New castle is not god tier ranked and idk why everyone acts like anyone just picks up new castle and is good lmao 98% of new castle don’t know what they are doing and are just goat meat shields lol new castle has the highest skill cap in the game

[@y_conflict2930]

Newcastle is easily god tier for both ranked and pubs without question. He has arguably the best revive in the game , his mobile shield makes him a menace with shotguns, his alt is great for mobility whether your taking height, getting out of a rough spot or saving a teammate. His alt is great for creating choke points like blocking a door or creating cover to hold people in storm. His mobile shield can be used while reviving people AND he can still use it while he is knocked. ALSO his alt counters all projectiles. Now this by it’s self is stupid BUT you also have to take into count that he’s a support legend so he also has all of those stupid buffs. With all of this the sheer amount of options you have to outplay someone is practically endless.

[@ghernandez909909]

And also Lifeline and Newcastle are literally God tier that’s all I have to say

[@lukedent]

@@ghernandez909909 lifeline, and Newcastle in my opinion, was always goated. Glad they’re getting love now tho lifeline mains deserves the buff.

[@shkrsimpson44]

Yea they're literally ridiculous now

[@aperson6382]

So much so she's probably going to be nerfed into the ground soon.

[@TheEntityJayman-h2x]

@@ghernandez909909 Agreed, tbh all support legends skyrocketed

[@neener461]

Crazy how all these list going around are not ever close to each other

[@aja3longhorn375]

These are consistently some of the worst though. Octane in B tier for ranked is a joke. There is literally no way someone could ever convince me Ash is less useful than Octane in ranked. Catalyst in same tier as Wraith too. Crazy.

[@esiahlynch]

@@aja3longhorn375thank you wtf was he thinking. Not to mention mirage being over ash wtf is going on

[@EmeraldDragonfly57]

​@@aja3longhorn375 People always complain how bad someone's list yet never take the time to actually point towards either good lists or make their own.

[@tolvhed]

Some thing you haven’t considered is how well maggie actually counters gibby and life line as she can not only drill through the shield but also cover massive peaks through the shield to make your team be able to push so much easier and also throwing her ball inside the LL halo is so much fun seeing them bounce around she’s Double S fs

[@1kvvrt]

Newcastle has to be God Tier. Plat lobbies are a headache right now

[@pumps585]

did he get a buff or smth? why does everyone all of the sudden think hes really good

[@maano7909]

@pumps585 Yes, he got an insane buff. You can't shoot out his tactical anymore, and he can move it when he's knocked plus the whole support buff lol

[@pumps585]

@ Gibby is still better IMO. Bubble has a 17 second cool down and, while it can’t be moved, it’s still a whole bubble, so it’s just better in my opinion. Apart from that, the extra arm shield health is great for good players, and his ultimate can basically kill a whole team when needed.

[@timmynguyen4758]

@@pumps585 new castle is a mobile cover unit with his ult and his moveable shield while also being able to move his allies while reviving them and having a shield while reviving. Really gibby could be considered better in certain situations but Newcastle within a building (and even paired with lifeline this season) is def better than gibby Edit: Newcastle’s ult is also a mini trophy system that destroys grenades when thrown towards the front of his ult. I’m saying all of that without mentioning that new castle is slightly a smaller hitbox than gibby and an lmg can still give you the same gun shield effect. I’m not gonna really count the new support buffs since that’s all supports that have it anyways. His cooldowns are also shorter than gibs

[@pumps585]

@ the tactical being moveable still doesn’t compare to having a full bubble. Newcastles shield is still very easy to nade out. And the ultimate being able to destroy nades barely does anything, since it’s only from one angle, and Gibby’s bubble, running on a 17 second cooldown, will block them from all angles.

[@manuelvasquez2432]

I think you had backwards thinking for ranking maggie. I also would say to switch maggie and fuse. Having alot of grenades is cool, but none of them can pass thru shields and with so many shield abilities now being indestructible, it gives more reason to play Maggie more with her drill. Her drill is the only ability that makes enemies regret throwing down their shield abilities, and her passive makes her one of (if not) the best legends who can pass thru shields, land big damage in a little amount of time, then stepping back out when they shoot back. Especially with how many more Lifelines and Newcastles in every game, Maggie should be a top priority

[@Calebreed289]

@@manuelvasquez2432 also you can throw her ult inside of gibby domes and lifeline ults now

[@antonio_candia]

I feel like Ash is overlooked way too much. Even HisWattson acknowledged ash’s power last season

[@d0uma369]

@@antonio_candia i was thinking the same , she is definitely not the worst assault legend. Above fuze and balistic atleast

[@DarthShyon]

⁠@@d0uma369especially if your pair her with fuse or revenant

[@d0uma369]

@DarthShyon I'd say she is exactly in the middle if u were to rank all the legends in order of viability. The snare is perfectly fine now that u can throw it while shooting, healing etc and the ult is some of the best/ safest engage/disengage team abilities. Only the passive and blue upgrades are kinda shit. If they wanna keep the kit as is, all they need to do is make the blue upgrades like 10 more metters for ult distance and the other like 30secs less ult cooldown for exp

[@haloboy817]

I recently started playing her. And this video pretty much explains it perfectly. Her Q is the best for making plays but its situational, her passives are borderline useless info but info nonetheless. Her Ult is surprisingly useful for rotations and getting out of fights, but I struggle to get INTO fights with it and overall Wraith outperforms her kit tenfold. Snares are outstanding but they dont always work the way you want them to.

[@d0uma369]

@@haloboy817 "wraith outperforms her kit tenfold" .... It never stops to fascinate me how people will so confidentiality say the most objectively wrong thing

[@LuisMoryc]

I last played in Season 21. i just watched this video because i was interested in how apex is now. And now I am still shocked about the lifeline changes.

[@UthmanAbdu]

@@LuisMoryc Facts ikr, I last played season 2q And im returning so im checking out everything before I hop back in

[@skillzay6335]

My biggest issue with Alter is that randoms don't use your ult when they should, costing the game.

[@messymakaveli9098]

Yeah it's frustrating, I only use her when I'm playing with friends as they have brains

[@telvanniis]

i'd probably raise both alter and ash to high b-tier. alter's passive is actually insane, it's like a 24/7 mini loba ult. if you need an evac tower, ok you just got one. do you need ammo? here let me grab some for you. her tactical is obviously very strong, and not a lot of people realize it can be used to get to basically any high ground too as it has an insane vertical range. her ultimate is also solid in this support meta. ash has some of the best opening potential of any legend with the snare/nade/portal combo, and she's only held back by a lackluster passive.

[@lorideeds5782]

Amazing tier list as usual. I did like it the way it was before tho, like where you did them all together and not like each role.

[@TheCryptoCB]

I think a new assault legend would be cool. Especially if they introduced a different kind of play style with the new legend.

[@TheRealOnee12]

Caustics needs to get a buff

[@207brapper4]

No

[@HeinXIII]

Yes safe a buff !

[@gaelchavez130]

I like what’s been done to the support class even before the buffs a squad with a support legend usually beat a squad WITHOUT a support legend especially it’s a Newcastle or Lifeline, however it wasn’t enough to convince pub squads to run a support legend but I can say that every game I’ve played this season someone always picks a support even me if neither of my other teammates picks one

[@d0uma369]

Love how they made conduits passive alot less niche, makes the kit feel more complete

[@JG-im3fn]

Haven’t been able to test this yet but can you drop Gibbys bubble inside of lifelines ult to protect the top?

[@TimProVision]

You can!

[@itsjustdorian8927]

I’m still a bloodhound main, I think their passive is amazing especially in rent when you’re searching for that last person that got away and is healing somewhere secretly I track them down and it makes the game fun like I’m a predator

[@ThatGuyGagik]

Hey Tim, great video as always. We haven't had a stream for a while... I'd like to suggest one in the future, especially with OG Apex back. 👍

[@buoofi9234]

ash is good in ranked, her passive lets you see where people are fighting, lvl 2 armor allows you to know how many squads are around, and lvl 3 amor allows you to trap multiple enemies, her charges fast allowing a 3+ use per match. I honestly have had great success using ash

[@SkibidiFortniteChugJug]

Mirage health bar is allegedly not fixed

[@pumps585]

YALL ARE SLEEPING ON THE GIBSTER! Even before this season he was amazing, you just had to know how to use him. It seems like there's just a lack of content creators paying attention to him and using him, making it so the playerbase gives up on him. He doesn't need a buff, he just needs more attention.

[@TimProVision]

Maybe

[@Nandoooooh07]

I had Gibby/Lifeline/Newcastle as my top 3 biggest winners this season. They have the best support kit, and they provide so much for a team if you choose even one of them.

[@illtyuh8336]

I actually agree with this list overall, maybe have seer a little higher, wall hacks and silence are pretty useful no matter what

[@masenv.1051]

Your tier lists are the best. Such a pleasure to watch/listen to them.

[@TimProVision]

Thanks!

[@eekajmoneybaby9309]

Ballistic Should get Revs silence on his whisler either you shoot it out or your running. If you stick someone and they try to use their abilitie it immediately hits you with the 50 damage and lock abilities for 2-3 secs.

[@money657]

Good thing you have no control over this game lmao. This would be broken

[@eekajmoneybaby9309]

@money657 no it wouldn't

[@money657]

@@eekajmoneybaby9309 your an idiot tbh. Why would it do 50 damage, cause overheating, and silence abilities. That will literally never happen bc it would be overpowered.

[@therealnoxic]

@@money657wouldn’t be too broken, maybe less damage if it’s locking abilities though.

[@tomhusher2668]

Just a joy to watch your videos as usual, top job , keep it up mate !

[@lauens]

03:29 wish my enemies would just stand still

[@adamschroeder5842]

I've been saying since release, give Alter a perk where she can yeet her ultimate. That would give her an offensive use for her ult.

[@cham3leon5]

New Castle has always been underrated and with this Season people finally play him. In combination with Lifeline and Gibby u basically can't push a team and if you do, you still risk a wipe because of how fast they can heal themselves.

[@pwvincil]

I wonder if some offensive buff to mirage ult would help. Like if you shoot the wrong one it would drop a grenade or something like that. Really play on the chaos element

[@Night-warrior]

Can you make a video on how to properly use today’s legends and upgrades? I’m trying to expand my playing style but also want to know more about how to expand it

[@pumps585]

This is a pretty big shift, and I haven't watched any ALGS yet, but there's no way this is the biggest meta shift we've ever seen.

[@unarmingnewt6495]

Now we need buffs for skirmisher legends and Assalt they have pretty bad extra abilyts

[@glenncaldwell4620]

I think they need to buff assault and controller

[@jennybird_]

pretty obvious that Assault and Skirmisher classes are getting reworked in the upcoming Season(s). Recon and Controller got reworked in S22 Support in S23

[@JM11_YT]

Im an ash main so it pains me to see her so low 😔

[@yungdraco7625]

Bro using pathy in the o.g mode been so much fun

[@eekajmoneybaby9309]

Someone told me good players won't need counters. Legends without counters means you can't deal with the slightest inconvenience

[@swagwolf13]

dope list Tim! mind sharing what song you used for the background music? it was so chill and I’d love to add it to my playlist.

[@TimProVision]

thank you! I use 3 songs in this video. The intro and exit is Son of Zeus - Sons of Hades. First background song is Almannagia - West & Zander. Second background song is Rissa - Valante

[@swagwolf13]

@ dude thanks a ton!

[@Itz_SaNDJi]

13:36 My God Tier Controller Legend has to be TimProVision. Have you heard of him?

[@TimProVision]

😂

[@joevicen7785]

Mad Maggie’s tactical goes through lifelines halo so she’s really good

[@nourmallysalty]

hot take: they need to restore seer’s interruption ability for his tact. with how strong the support is now, there has so be more counters for their insane plays

[@everope]

Getting a support legend on your team in mid-level ranked was pretty rare, now everyone is picking Lifeline or Newcastle lol

[@SL-iw8jt]

ash on her own may not be too impressive but in combination with horizon and either of fuse or maggie , that could likely be a good counter to the current meta

[@filipedonatti5803]

My Caustic has been nerfed so badly… (though he’s very tanky now) the gas ticks don’t make any difference AT ALL during a fight.

[@Amar0134]

That G7 skin at 1:10 is CRAZY

[@illtyuh8336]

I personally never had an issue playing around Ballistics tact, I’d have him C or D in upper ranked and keep him at B for overall, Bloodhound is way better if you want to play aggressive not to mention the faster sprinting unlike ballistic

[@J4zzEditz]

just came back and love to see my boys pathfinder and rev in god tier. octane still could be better tho. i hope my girl ash gets buffed soon

[@neemzer7968]

please do a weapon tier list 😊 loving the content as usual

[@TimProVision]

Working on it next! Hopefully will be up around Tuesday

[@C-A-M-456]

Got a 4K with pathy the other day he’s so good especially with his tac refresh on knock

[@romanrules007]

I watched GameLeaps tier list last night and you guys don’t agree on a lot of legends. For example he but ash in A, alter in secretly broken, and fuse in C tier 😂 he also put lifeline in B tier

[@TimProVision]

Yeah, they don't really play the game

[@romanrules007]

@@TimProVisionI did notice he only used other streamer footage while you actually us your own, so maybe you’re right on that

[@pumps585]

I honestly don't really support this idea that bang is a "hybrid" legend. Yeah, she can do a bit of everything, but when I want offense on my team, I look to fuse and Maggie, not Bangalore, and when I look for team support, I look to basically any support legend, not Bangalore. All things considered, yeah, she can do a bit of everything, but her main purpose is survivability, and if you want anything else, you shouldn't pick her.

[@yaddietv4621]

In my opinion you just need to know how to play ash I have maines her since she came out and I have hit masters with ash in season 22

[@Saltylady662]

13:48 don't call him gas daddy lol.

[@Brandon-ou4wc]

Bad thing with Watson is that her ult destroys friendly grenades and ults abilities. That and her ult will charge enemy shields if they get close enough.

[@yavierdeleon8511]

Im a diehard Watson main and even though its true I manage to go around that. As long as you know what ur doing and dont let the enemy heal its fine, plus ur teammates know not to throw ordnance next to her ult so honestly u dint really see much of an issue

[@Leon_vandaele]

If you have first upgrade on mirage you can get your ult in 30 seconds hes S tier i love it

[@lukeharris7870]

POV Respawn: Legends can go where ever they want as long as the qualify a little. Valkery: Goes to Recon. Lifeline season 23: Goes to skirmisher 💀

[@braydoncarter4058]

As a Watson main I watched it just to see Watson I am happy😊

[@peterdippenaar7877]

Swap wattson with newcastle and you got a pretty good list here.

[@pieterdonut]

OG royal tierlist pls!!!

[@eekajmoneybaby9309]

They need to revert they crypto alter interaction it was actually skilled based and took a lot of coordination unlike cat and seer. Being able to enable a legend that was relatively mid to really strong isn't that big of a issue because it could still be outplayed.

[@lolalela93]

imagine how good it must feel for your shots to actually register.

[@diablo.7153]

thing is if you’re good at the game in general you gon do good with any character I think a big thing about apex is being brain smart rather then having the best legend

[@patrickgarrett1439]

I would love a best squad comps list

[@JOLT_x3]

Im sorry, i havent played the game in a while, did they turn the "Wrecking" Ball into just a Ball. Like can't break shit 😭

[@YTCrossedG]

Alright there is enough rampart love. And yes the new shields are a new thing to wrap the mind around. Loce the content.

[@eekajmoneybaby9309]

Giving everyone the ability to revive does buff some legends but it also it encourageous bad players to run immediately instead of being there for a gun fight I've seen to many people be like this when a fight could have been a easy win but then they constantly sell the game just to reset their teammates.

[@timmynguyen4758]

This season is really the lifeline and Newcastle duo’s dream and it’s quite annoying but they deserve it. (Now let me get my ash rework)

[@ghernandez909909]

Sorry but Ash is literally A tier for me..her Ult ain’t the best but it’s literally a great way to get high-ground and her tactical is insanely underrated..every time I use her I get kills with it left and right..making ppl stay in a certain area not being able to fly or run away? That’s insane

[@Ankjear]

Ikr, I feel like sometimes when people makes there rankings they don't play her properly, catching people trying to run away is so good, and if they have a third that's a little bit further away snaring them so they can't be right then and there in the fight

[@AmirKazimi]

there are reasons when nobody plays a legend

[@JT-km6th]

Lol hell no

[@OrangeSoda1432]

@@Ankjear it was better last season, she could hold down Newcastle ult, valk etc, but now, she’s pretty much worthless unless you have someone low and you don’t want them to run lol her ult is the only thing viable but imo, if you’re playing her just for that, it’s over for ash.

[@YOUNGxCRAVEN]

Cough cough horizon

[@Nuncents]

Ballistic being better than ash, snaring is a lot more useful, you can snare jump cannons and jump towers.

[@Nuncents]

Ransoms don’t use alter ult, you will get no value from alter as a solo queuer on top of having underwhelming perks

[@Barcxde-]

One of my least favorite types of teammates is a greedy/selfish loba. I can’t count the amount of times my team has had to chase a loba around the map, just for them to get aped by themselves.

[@jasonmaurella2]

Mad Maggie’s ball not breaking the shields is actually better for her.. and new castle is the best legend at this time

[@TreNance]

Bro no shot at 4:53 that was me and my homeboy 😭I forget if we won that game or not ngl 😭but ggs

[@SamR-g5o]

Hi Tim I just wanted to ask for a legend recommendation again (sorry) but I'm lvl 160 still with no main and I'm struggling tbf I've only been back for a season for a year long break, is there any legend who you would recommend or one that you think is worth learning and could be very rewarding and I would learn a lot, thanks

[@TimProVision]

Id try any of the support legends right now

[@brianj9634]

We need an updated new castle guide !!

[@TimProVision]

noted!

[@nastygamingz9101]

I feel like octane needs a sub category cause if you’re a movement god he’s definitely s tier if you can’t do any movement he’s not good at all

[@redthekantohero5040]

Maggie is a balanced legend on height you can throw the ball in the halo

[@gabrielalbertogarcia4356]

I have to disagree heavily on Maggie. I've found the wrecking ball to be better now since it can cause all sorts of mayhem inside a Gibby or lifeline dome.

[@TobiAlay]

What about a assault legend with psychic abilities that’s actually Wraith brother

[@sleet9289]

i want a new control legend, they have the most interesting kits, in my opinion.

[@joshgrandmtl1098]

A little bit Bias of a list imo, but still love your videos! You earned a Sub ❤️

[@xSweatyTryHard]

Ash with greedy snare on this season is actually op With support getting such a big buff that most teams r running close together especially behind walls in domes/halos so more captures

[@hayvanejones8791]

Newcastle, lifeline, Gibby are one of the best Rank legends. Yeah pathy and bang to. But these 3 are a must if you want a easier life.

[@xorkns]

Gibby S tier newcastle god tier imo

[@haloboy817]

Can anyone explain how exactly you can get around a Newcastle wall this season? I feel like once it is down, there is NO counter to it. Any throwables are useless, it eats up most Ults and you cant simply get around it if they deploy from height or even on top of you. Pair this with a Lifeline and then either Wattson or Rev and its such a garbage meta to fight against.

[@OrangeSoda1432]

The downfall of seer has to be the greatest in apex. When from “if you don’t have seer on your team you’re trolling” broken, to complete dog poop 💩 😂😂😂

[@AlienCats969]

@OrangeSoda1432 ngl The silence itself is good because of how much support legends rely on their abilities. But I do some-what agree that the other parts of his kit are kinda mid 🧍

[@philipbrackett443]

I'm sad, man. They're gonna nerf my boy Newcastle into the ground after this season. I would have been happy with just _one_ of the buffs they gave him and the support class. But all of this at the same time? They're insane in the membrane

[@xMankii]

I would take an Ash on my team any day of the week over an Octane for ranked

[@jg_____5090]

Yep you got it right!

[@eekajmoneybaby9309]

Maggie not being able to break barriers anymore means she's back in C tier

[@disasterpieces9026]

Fuse double S? In a meta full of NC, Gibbies and lifeline bubbles and shields, fuse is basically useless.

[@KaiVanzo]

This was great I would love a oh royal tear lest

[@TimProVision]

Thank you! Appreciate the support

[@kelseykent1196]

Is there a bug going on with lifeline now? I’ve tried reassigning the drone to other people and it just will not prompt the ability for me to do so when it’s already out. And also it doesn’t give me the ability to recall it like I don’t see it on the tactical section. However, when I go into the fire range, it’s there the option to recall and assign so am I misunderstanding something? And also I threw it out one time and it just wouldn’t heal me so Idek what’s up with that can someone help me out with this issue please 🙏🏿

[@TimProVision]

Yeah... I haven't been able to reassign either

[@ho2673]

Ash underrated AF

[@jamaul67]

Love your content, but I don't think you based the tier offs of the meta as well as you usually would. Rn with support being the needed spot for every team in ranked it's either about who pairs well with a support class or who counters those support legends like lifeline or Newcastle

[@TimProVision]

Pairings are always critical. I usually try to look at the legend as to their benefit to any other legend, not specific pairings as it gets way too complicated then

[@rubensollid]

Will you be making a gun tier list for this season?

[@TimProVision]

Yeah, working on it now

[@clipz_power6387]

Who should i buy

[@XOMXY]

The alter that just gave up halfway through the fight💀