Ranking the Blits Abilities : Warhammer 40k Darktide

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[@jagore1258]

Ah yes smoke grenade. Blind your team for zero tactical advantage. Brilliant.

[@raptorjetz]

At the very least, enemies should have their silhouettes highlighted in the smoke. That's my suggestion.

[@JadeBlades098]

Dude smokes have saved my ass and my friends more times than I can count.

[@user-rx2zp1um2n]

It's finicky as hell, but with good coms it can save the squad's bacon from a group of shooters, especially if everyone knows how it works. Enemies outside the cloud treat it as a wall/cover, and inside, they're a little less aggressive. so using it behind the squad as a fallback point and to force shooters tryna be sneaky to approach first can be nifty

[@alecritchie5669]

Everyone shits one smokes but they are possibly the most powerful grenade due to their ability to just eliminate ranged units, notably gunners. Can’t count how many times a horde of gunners has been trivialized by a single smoke grenade

[@splattbinat1542]

they should put out fires

[@0bzen22]

Immolation grenades are a good all rounder. burns the small stuff while you're solving an extremely complex puzzle or pushing buttons, rezzing teammates, ect... Hey, it's OK. Combines well with Chorus or other AOEs, and it looks cool. B+.

[@C4MG1RL]

"If you're running smite you're usually running a gun" Me using the purgatus or surge staff to either go all in on the zap build or all in on the horde clear

[@Shachza]

Can't comment on much other than psyker, and... I agree. Brain Burst is excellent single target damage, but it requires either damage boosting or faster cast timer to really shine, or both, (so, spec dependent) to really shine, but it's still only single target. Sure, you can delete enemies at any range, but you're going to need time and cover to do it well, you're still going to need multiple hits to kill the big, scary things, and you can't really use it while something is trying to nom your face (a very frequent situation in Darktide). Assail is excellent mid-range damage against many sources in quick order, but the limitations are very important: one, you can run yourself out of ammo really fast, two, you can peril cap yourself really fast, and three, it does practically nothing to big, scary enemies. So it's best against groups of enemies - but not groups that are too big - who aren't exceptionally durable. It CAN tag single enemies at extreme range, but Brain Burst does this a lot more reliably. Smite is short to medium range and doesn't do a lot of damage. Buuuuuuuut it locks down pretty much everything in front of you, almost not matter what it is. Smite is a great big stop sign that almost no heretics can disobey. Waves of pox hounds? Forget it. Waves of bursters? Already bounced. Waves of crushers? You just bought your team time to kill them. Ragers, gunners, hordes... you name it, and it can't hurt you until you let it. Mostly. Doesn't do a lot to bosses, but it DOES prevent any other heretics from messing with you while your buddies bonk the boss. Also, smite - fireburst venting shriek - smite is a hell of a combo and can clear most anything, regardless of numbers, in front of you.

[@Xingmey]

just get advanced psyonics and bash out the brainburst in 1.5 seconds each with no peril... have 3 stacks, and do it thrice. also set all the stuff on fire near it. brainburst is better than assail, not quite the same as mite. assail is for wannabe tryhards, that want to do a heresy mission when all they did was level 2 diff before.

[@thegreengoblin373]

Brain burst was criminally under ranked here imo. With that middle perk on the bottom of the skill tree, I can blitz faster and it’s SUPER affective when dealing with snipers, crushers, and any ogryn-types from afar since I can dash behind cover in safety while I continue to blow their brains out. Additionally, I can, “lock” on sprinting dogs and trappers and merk them even if they sprint away too quickly or duck behind cover on their hasty retreat. I run with the purgatus staff so I’m already horde clearing left and right and being paired with the dueling sword allows me to poke any larger enemy once or twice in the head for an effective close range kill. So with brain burst I’m affective from all angles and can solo clutch if my other 3 team mates are down on Damnation. I’ve also been clearing Auric Damnation with ease with this build too.

[@nemesisnidhoggr1468]

Ima gonna give a different perspective on grenades. As someone who plays different builds with different playstyles (i have 7-11 builds on each of 4 characters) Starting off with an S-tier: - Immolation grenade. Incredible grenade. Deals tons of damage to anyone. Great zoning, as enemies do try to walk around grenade, on some maps they even escape through doors to come out on other side because immolation grenade blocks their only path and that's like 15s of them not joining the combat. Altho lacks any stun potential and if you try to chuck one onto downed player and move to save him - all enemies that were beating him will aggro on you instantly. So not for stunning, not for saving downed players. - Krak grenade. Even without talent +50% dmg still oneshots crushers, bulwarks, reapers. Guaranteed to kill at least 1 elite if sticks. Which means it's great with talent on replenishing grenades on elite kills. You can kite enemies solo and slowly kill them with those bad bois. Especially with Voice of Command ability, throw in pack of crusher and knock them back so whole pack will explode. Can stagger enemies and deal dmg even if thrown on ground. Useful for saving downed players. BUT its insanely inconsistent with it's sticking mechanic. You can throw it into a crusher and it sticks to random flak scab melee, wasting a grenade. - Smite. Cant argue with that, stunlock is great. Next is A-tier: - Rock. You can kill ranged enemies and mutants or stagger reaper. But honestly if you playing ogryn and trying to be the best - you will have a kickback shotgun, it can do everything a rock does. Can be useful to deal with mutants if you have rumbler grenade launcher. Yes it can stagger many enemies including monstrosities. But you ogryn. You can just smack those enemies with your melee and achieve the same result. I would put rock in S tier if it will be made as zealot knifes. Just press button and rock flies in that direction. - Frag grenade. Good for making space which is most important for veterans. Clears and kills. Doesnt deal much to armored bois, but throw 2-3 of them and it will get the job done. INSANELY good if you have a full grenadier build. Cant be in S-tier since veterans have OP powersword which does everything this grenade do, but better. - Stun Grenade. A clutch-nade. A savior of most dire situations. A master of set-ups for multikills. Take zealot with flamethrower and Chastise The Wicked ability, chuck one stun greande into a pack of 10 crushers, whip out flamethrowers, burn, use ult, burn, use ult - you can kill them all with 1 canister. Cant be in S-tier as it does no dmg, requires specific weapon for it to combo with and only stuns on initial impact. Would've been S-tier if it's stunning persisted for few second so new enemies that enter the grenade also got stunned. Next is B-tier: - Smoke grenade. Yes. It's not as bad as you think. People assume all it does - prevents ranged units from shooting. But it's far more than that. It OBSTRUCTS the vision of ALL enemies. So if you stand in smoke grenade: gunners will stop shooting and take cover. ranged shooters will move towards you into melee range to see you, but by the time they see you - they in melee range, so they switch to melee weapons. dogs will walk into the smoke to see you and pounce only within 2-3metres from you. trappers will walk into your face before trying to shoot net into you. flamers will get upclose to you before shooting the flamer. So all enemies, that have a decent range of using their weapons and need line of sight on you - now have to come into melee radius to use them. Which makes it SO MUCH EASIER to deal with those. No longer flamer will fire at you from 10m away, or trapper will catch you from behind the boxes all the way back. No dog will appear out of nowhere pouncing on you from across the room. Cant be higher than B-tier because it's obstructs vision, you need to fight inside the smoke and it has no dmg or enough stagger to save teammates. - Ogryn Frag grenade. Insanely good grenade for saving from most dire situations. Staggers EVERYTHING in entire room. So you can save teammate even if there are 2-3 monstrosities on you. If you have knowledge and experience on maps and you know where enemies are - you can clear some of the hard parts of the mission with just one grenade. Players rarely using grenades, so you can replenish them quite often. Maelstorms with Blitz modifications gives you 3 grenades. Veterans with talent when ammo crates replenish those also helps. Cant be A-tier since it lacks dmg on armored bois and only acts as "osh*t button". - Zealot knives. Very useful stuff. Replenishable by specials/elite kills with melee or picking ammo packs. Instathrow. Instakill. Pierces through one mob, so poxwalker wont take the hit accidentaly. Takes a lot of skill and practice. As any other grenade - benefits from perks and blessings your weapon has, but better than other grenades. 5 stacks of headtaker and +25% dmg to maniacs? can bodyshot a trapper or even a flamer. Can crit, can headshot. Easy to take, as most zealots invest in right path for juicy +15% tougness replenishment on perfect dodge. Cant be A-tier because lacks AoE, stagger and reviving potential. Plus doesnt work with some weapon animations, meaning you cant throw the knive before certain weapon attacks finish it's animations. Now to is C-tier: - Box of Hurt. It does practically no dmg. But it staggers a lot. Chuck one into pack of enemy ogryns and you have them all lying on the ground. Ideal for saving teammates, as it has constant stagger with each explosiong for good period of time. Would've been A-tier if ogryns Taunt ability with reduced cd on stagger worked with stagger from grenades (it was working before patch 15, fatshark broke something again) - Assail. After multiple nerfs it's rarely used. Only if you playing dmg Surge stuff? as the way to deal with hordes. Any other psyker weapon has no problem clearing the hordes, so this blitz is not that good. Lastly D-tier: - Brain Burst. No matter how you build into it. It's still better to kill enemy with whatever weapon you have, rather than popping their heads. Can be used with Purgatus staff, but rarely players take it. Only usefull if you not using your blitz at all with upgrade on autocast every 15s. Should be buffed that by holding right-mouse button it selects multiple enemies and deals 50% of dmg to each of them at the cost of higher peril consumption.

[@Akrilloth]

I must somewhat disagree with the frag bomb, but id say the caveat is that you need the Big boom skill in the skill tree. After that, the frag bomb has been the single thing saving more Damnation and Heresy Hi Intensity Shock troop gauntlet missions than i can count. While yes, it doesn't oneshot crushers or maulers, everything else within 10 meters of it dies, and that's important when 8 bulwarks and 15 dreg ragers are on you in the middle of a chaos spawn fight. Especially if they are supported by those blasted quad mutant spawns assisted by flamers. The massive knock on it also lets you help up any knocked down teammates that might be around you while the surviving crushers and maulers scramble to get back on their feet. So not an S, because it often "too good to use", but the game save potential of it puts it at A IMO, ESPECIALLY in Heresy where it also oneshots maulers.

[@mancik17]

I had a vet in like 2 of my auric runs that was running smokes. It stopped snipers from targeting us and bugged out trappers so they ran through the smoke looking for targets. It's super niche and you give up a ton but I feel like with a couple changes it would be OK. Be interesting to see it turned into a mustard gas or some sort of hand sanitizer gas grenade lol

[@40KKensei]

Hmm, Ive never had Snipers be blinded by it maybe im just tripping. If it did a dot that would be good too, a febreeze bomb to poison Nurgle lol

[@samfish2550]

Unironically if the gas did something it would feel a lot better.

[@markahlbaum3042]

Good video but I do want to give you a tip. Do not show the finished tier list in your thumbnail. Show the bottom half, or middle. Don't show the top.

[@40KKensei]

Yeah, I was hoping the text clutter would obscure it more Ill probably change it

[@samuelmuise5633]

something that should be said about the smoke grenade is with the new map and it's big open spaces I've had pretty good experience with it. especially as a zealot it felt so nice to not have to worry about gunners at all and to have them actually run towards me with my crusher in hand. it also breaks snipers I think so that's nice. the only problem I have with the smoke grenade is I don't see the pack of ragers charging me to tear me a new one, which is something I think FatShark should look into. maybe have a talent that makes all enemies moving in the smoke gold colored or something.

[@40KKensei]

Yeah that be good

[@moxtordoki96]

If the vet has the enemy highlit skill, it becames one of the best anti range combo i have experience

[@deathninja16]

Why not give us like a melta style grenade?

[@moxtordoki96]

@@deathninja16 isnt that a krak granade? I mean, it makes the same job, take out heavy armored guys

[@samuelmuise5633]

I mean, we already have crack grenades and from my understanding those are pretty much the same thing@@deathninja16

[@bufan7177]

Brain bust is good if combine with empowering psionic and surge’s cooldown reduction.

[@addmen96]

I belive psyker's blitz are on the same level, for they offer diffrent specialistion: Brain burst is specialist killer. With some decipline you can pop heads and harras bosses with mere seconds of downtime. Warp charges(the only viable keystone) and venting shreak are reccomended since thats the og tree Assail is like jack of all trades. Can deal with specialists and hordes but not good enough to reach effectivness of other powers Smite is a clutch machine with warp charges being a mandatory pick since you need to lower your peril generation as much as possible.

[@samfish2550]

Also a big thing on ogryn grenade is skill choices. The box is the only way to get the damage AND stagger buff with the rock only getting the stagger and nuke only getting the damage. Both skills are very impactful no matter what build you run, with impact being melee and the damage being build agnostic. It's a very impactful aspect of building ogryn and it comes hand in hand with your blitz.

[@armintor2826]

Brain Burst is at least usable on Heresy or below, but the fact that the high single target damage ability cant even kill a pox hound on Damnation is just sad. You have to jump through so many hoops and hurdles just to make that blitz barely passable on Damnation even after the buff to its damage.

[@NameIsDoc]

If you take the ability to autocast every 15 seconds and do empowered psionics keystone you can keep your charges while it auto pops heads. Allowing you to save the attack for heavy foes. Great on shredder gun psyker with scri the damage boosts make it so it can one-shot crushers.

[@owa1985]

I run the auto-BB on my voidstrike loadout. Incidentally, it's also the only psyker loadout I run ever since I discovered the void strike buff. It's my stand in for "no blitz" that I very rarely have to whip out to kill shootabois who stand near daemonhosts.

[@Akrilloth]

To be fair, poxhounds have always had way too much HP in general.

[@henryviiifake8244]

It either needs a significant damage boost or cast speed boost (and reduced peril generation) to be worthwhile.

[@henryviiifake8244]

​@@AkrillothPerhaps, but Smite + Executioners Stance/AoE Grenades (not smoke)/either Leeroy Jenkins or Sunday Sermon Zealot handles the pack easily enough.

[@nedyaknetwork85]

Friend rock goodest.

[@kmel3588]

I disagree with your assertion on brainburst specifically if yoused with Empowered psyonics

[@Daethere]

Brain burst and kniff throw and smoke in a way, are great i think you just used them wrong to think they are bad

[@samfish2550]

Ik brain burst can work when built for and knife is good for finishing off close breakpoints consistently/ranged damage without a weapon swap needed. Smoke though I'm not certain on it's use. Maybe for corner peaking or letting you res a team mate under fire and not get them instantly shot to death when they stand up. Idk, I feel vet has other abilities that allow these without relying on a limited resource and loss of a complimentary source of crowd control or single target depending on your gun of choice. Am I missing something here?

[@boxant]

Throwing knives allow for the quick deployment of boltgun, great for ragers and stealth crushers.

[@AL-pw2gn]

I actually rate the ogryn sized frag grenade higher because I use the kickback and I'm able to kill muties and snipers easily enough. Though if I'm using the ripper gun or stubber than I could see the rock more. I treat my nuke like an oh shit button that really can save the game. If you are fighting a boss in the middle of a swarm, nuke 'em. If you have three downed teammates and you're next, nuke 'em. It gives you the space you need to work more than any other ogryn grenade and I didn't appreciate it until I started using it and now I'm hooked.

[@Atercor-kx8hs]

Okay, I'm sorry, but the last time I randomly stumbled upon your channel it was just some (I assume so anyway) random Inquisitor. Now we have moving CLEARLY lady Inquisitor with a...big blitzes, yes AND she moves when you talk. So...mommy Inquisitor vtuber when?

[@40KKensei]

Her blitz are very... big yes lol. I do plan on getting an actual model eventually But then thangs are not cheap so I gotta start saving up for it

[@rinnolk]

Knives are just a small pocket revolver with infinite ammo. Easy A, honestly. As long as you're consistent at landing them headshots. But the ability to just look at something mean and tap it once to remove... with barely any disruption to your melee madness? Hard to pass up

[@yungpark6435]

Can 1shot most maniacs and snipers as a form of utility as in you just remove the danger from existence

[@NameIsDoc]

If you are revolver or bolter zealot the knives give you a ranged option when you are reloading or need to reload.

[@owa1985]

Or sometimes I just slowly lob my knives across the map at distant gunners my vets are too lazy to kill. I usually manage to kill about 80% of problem gunners this way. As in before someone else steals my kill that is.

[@splattbinat1542]

wait since when are knifes infinite?

[@owa1985]

@@splattbinat1542They aren't... I normally allow myself 1 miss before I start naruto running at the offenders.

[@hecc7906]

Your rankings of Ogryn blitzes are so odd, Frag bomb is amazing since it's a big reset button and can save runs that rock or box wouldn't. Rock is good and all but picking it forces you to lose out on the 15% damage talent which is the only reason that makes it mid. Box is also good but only having 2 makes it too niche which ends up in you using it as a budget rock or nuke, and the bombs after don't really do much

[@40KKensei]

The Frag bomb is good, but you only use it one or twice in a run (and runs into a "Too good to use" issue) while the Box and Rocks has a more general use.

[@hecc7906]

@@40KKensei Very true but when do you run into a situation where you would lose if you didn't have a rock or box? Probably never I imagine

[@henryviiifake8244]

​@@hecc7906 A well-place Rock can prevent you getting into losing situations by removing Snipers/Mutants before they can get up to mischief, while the Box gives you a second chance if you miss-time your first throw. Miss-time the Frag and it's over until you find more grenades.

[@hecc7906]

@@henryviiifake8244 After running Rock for a while I now see why it's so good

[@turkumies7799]

The zealot knife throw is shit. A revolver does the job way faster and better.

[@henryviiifake8244]

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