Happy to finally see someone who understand that Shiryu is BB's first commander and not Aokiji It's getting kinda rare these days to see someone with the ability to read proprely W video, arguments are valid and the ranking is perfectly fair and understandable, that's just great
@vampiranya993914 сағат бұрын
It's mostly done because he is his strongest subordinate(and don't come at me with fantasies that he isn't). But ye, BB's YC1 is Shiryu.
@skarma967314 сағат бұрын
@vampiranya9939 yeah I totally agree
@lawrencekatende213113 сағат бұрын
Since when was Lafitte not BB's first commander?
@paulmcvay198013 сағат бұрын
@@lawrencekatende2131Fr and why tf would it be shiryu if it's shiryu it should be aokiji cause lafiette was cold as fuck
@SamuelRondreigz472012 сағат бұрын
I think it’s more of people forgetting Shiryu even exists. I forgot he was even a character until he stabbed Garp.
@unculturedswine610718 сағат бұрын
Thought Mihawk was gonna be #1
@Amused_monster13 сағат бұрын
No
@rudyrudisill837813 сағат бұрын
Wtf
@MrRourk11 сағат бұрын
He is more of a partner and I guess he has Perona?
@Lugetbucks10 сағат бұрын
Mihawk more a yonko then commander
@Jj_27236 сағат бұрын
he’s basically an emperor in his own right. it’s him, buggy, and crocodile all serving as co-emperors basically.
@ZoeUzodike18 сағат бұрын
Do top 10 strongest in world gov
@handsmcgee83318 сағат бұрын
Pretty respectable rankings, I think Shiryu might be a dark horse in the future but it can be hard to tell with BB Pirates
@micahlallison469115 сағат бұрын
The whole thing about Cobra getting up and protecting Sabo was his final stand, with the last bits of his strength and morals he knew he wasn't getting out of there. Would provide a certain temporary strength in the face of your own accepted demise
@Kryss_collects19 сағат бұрын
My goat 🐐 posted, I instantly showed up
@ItachiUchiha_1724Сағат бұрын
True right hand Ben beckman Katakuri Rayleigh Barely right hard King Zoro Marco Not 1st yonko commander lvl Sabo Killer Bepo Shyryu You have a problem seeing what what is happening.... King cannot perform half of his attacks and skills if he doesn't remove his flame King NEEDS to remove his flame because certain attacks require speed His ultimate attack literally is a gamble He takes his flames and uses it for an attack He becomes a normal civilian who is just as durable as the next guy and for some one who probably has never recieved a lethal attack His endurance and pain tolerance is trash Looking at katakuri who gave himself a lethal wound ans kwpt fighting for 4 hours And tanking named attacks going mach fuck you to receive Nothing but a Scuff mark Not a bruise or a cut or a broken bone Scufffffff markks Katakuri very much so has High durability Luffy got 4 dropa of blood ans evwryone thinks katakuri is trash?? Its insane how much katakuri is Disrepected Look at his feats Sabo /ace is strong but sabo is the only exapmle of seeing a newly created Df user We Know there is a stamina drain just for having it Sabo is huffing and puffing Because his body needs to adapt Using his flame drains more stamina Thats why he looked strange Also he is Not confirmed to have any adv. Haki I think he use observation haki to find its weak point And Uses basic observation to crack it It did not shatter from the inside Unlike katakuri who is confirmed in dialogue and his Vivre card to have unique Armamanet haki that can "Cut" and "impact" other haki Fundememtially changing what we know what armament haki is aka a shield That is an adv. Form of armament if i ever heard it Anyways katakuri is the goat and the next wb his Conquers is on the same lvl luffy was right before getting Adv. Conquers haki meaning he alone can interact and crush physical objects aka interacring with the physical world Only shanks has shown this And only the Yonko when they clash have this effect Katakuri might honestly already have it He just never used it becuase his df future sight was more than enough He l Took luffy serious but that doesn't mean he went all out He only uses his spear unqiue armament haki and Df properties a few times Imagine Katakuri putting his unique armament haki on his Spear along with creating traps and making the ground Sticky The ceilings turn into hard mochi The Pillars turn into Soft mochi This is not head canon becuase he literally did this Add his future sight conquers and his Close Combat Capabilities (mutli arms Unsroppable donuts-power mochi superior logia effect) He is a Walking Super monster And whats insane is he has stamina to do this for 12 hours Who ever is infront of him is dying in seconds I truly believe once smoothie comes back with bigmom/kaido&beast pirates he will go save pudding alone And destroy the Trashbeard pirates Neg diffing them all including trashbeard and luzan Getting pudding and Leaving maybe even saving Garp
@kamal624918 сағат бұрын
W video bro I would really like to hear your opinion on Sanji vs King
@adarshav460917 сағат бұрын
I think sanji doesn't have AP or DP to damage the king in the present condition
@y0mrb5016 сағат бұрын
in the strongest characters in wano he explained why sanji beats him
@TheProphetLot16 сағат бұрын
Imo king wins
@adarshav460915 сағат бұрын
@@y0mrb50 king >> sanji any day
@kamal624915 сағат бұрын
@@adarshav4609 🤣🤣
@SasukeY2JItachi10 сағат бұрын
Putting Zoro over Marco and Shiryuu is crazy considering Marco has done battle with all three admirals and walked away as well as doing battle with emperor Blackbeard and Big Mom yet Zorro struggled against King to put Zorro over Marco is ridiculous. As for Shiryuu are we forgetting that it was stated his strength was comparable to Magellan 2 years ago before his devil fruit?..... And we are putting Zorro over him also? C'mon Zoro fans y'all gotta stop the biasness if he's your favorite character then that's fine but the sheer absurdity and blading ridiculousness of y'all scaling him is mind-bobling. Oda revealed with the Vivier cards Zoro does not have conquerors haki but advanced armament which is Rio.
@Shivasish-ud9yp6 сағат бұрын
Frist, Zoro has conquerors haki Second, Marco did not fight bb alone and still got his ass handed to him. Thrid, The warden is a weakling now with ryuo anymore kill that guy he doesn't even have any kind of haki. Fourth, Zoro tanked the attack of two freaking yonkos but was not out of commission like marco after he fought with bb. Fifth, Marco was not fight the above mentioned seriously except for bb, he was just trying to stall time. Sixth, Marco was almost at the verge of exhaustion after stalling queen and king, who were not even going all out. Sixth, Shiryuu doesn't have any achievements other than stabbing a blade through grap. Seventh, Zoro's potential, he can surpass Shiryuu within a span of a few chapters.
@M_aak5 сағат бұрын
Marco glaze, he can only last cuz of the nature of his fruit, hes a support cast like law but 1v1 to death hes losing to every marine. 2) kaido, katakuri, doffy, crocodile , lucci etc all had WAY more experience than the straw hats, heck smoker was the strongest to them before grandline now hes a joke so using pre time skip statements its hilarious what a foolish point, the strawhats have shown multiple times they dont have a problem beating people who have more battle experience. Lastly oda doesnt write vivre cards he supervises them so thats very embarrassing for you for not knowing that unless you also believe garp doesnt have conquerors because it wasnt updated for him, this isnt the first time they made mistakes, no one is glazing zoro ur underrating him and its obvious do better...
@Shivasish-ud9yp4 сағат бұрын
@@M_aak well at least someone here gets it
@woomyzooms37814 сағат бұрын
marco is only good at stalling and has shit AP, be literally didnt do any lasting damage to anyone hes fought
@JT_2184 сағат бұрын
Dude the entire fight between zoro and king was zoro trying to control his sword and was struggling because of it, as soon as he got it under control he basically low diffed king. We also can’t forget that zoro has held off a Haki blast charged by two yonkos
@Hpyktxd18 сағат бұрын
11:20 that wasn't offscreen, I don't know where that idea came from
@bleacheman17 сағат бұрын
He prolly means most of the fight was off screen, not the end
@godlessoutsider22838 сағат бұрын
1. Prime Rayleigh/Goathawk 2. Kuzan 3. Old Rayleigh 4. Shiryu 5. Ben 6. Marimo 7. King 8. Kata/mayb Sa D. Bo
@almy-qy1lf3 сағат бұрын
The hit count argument is one of the worst if not THE worst argument ever, but it keeps getting used against Katakuri. Can someone remind us how many effective hits did Zoro need, to beat most of his opponents ? Mere hit count completely ignores both the impact of fatigue and stamina, and the fact that not all hits are equal. Losing to one Bajrang Gun, is not less impressive than losing to 10 of Luffy's named attacks in base, or G2. Although well, that would count as just one hit, right ? Katakuri was mostly hit with Luffy's named attacks in his then strongest form (G4), and it was pretty obvious fatigue played a big role in him going down. At full health, it would probably take way more special hits to take him down.
@ItachiUchiha_1724Сағат бұрын
Exactly katakuri took hits some on purpose with no haki And nevwr got a bruise or cut or Broken bone Only scuff marks....scufff marks These attacks are the same if not stronger than the attacks that made bigmom block with armament haki Katakuri has high durability and insane endurance He fought 8 hours in awakening 4 of them with a LETHAL WOUND and did not lose King literally could not withstand 1 lethal wound😂 Its insane how underrated katakuri is
@TheOriginalShadow1813 сағат бұрын
Great list Vertics 👍
@chiefgamingxl807013 сағат бұрын
1. Mihawk 2. Rayleigh 3. Kuzan 4. Beck 5. Zoro
@jikey17312 сағат бұрын
Switch 2 and 3 and it’s fine tbh
@RunD.Ones1s11 сағат бұрын
@@jikey173prime Rayleigh > Aokiji
@jikey17311 сағат бұрын
@@RunD.Ones1s i don’t even have prime ray concretely over kizaru tbh. He just doesn’t have scaling to that level. Even if he could beat kizaru, I don’t see a single way to get him to akainu/kuzan level. Prime Rayleigh is around Blackbeards or big moms level tbh
@RunD.Ones1s11 сағат бұрын
@ black beard and big mom are both stronger than Aokiji lmao you’re one of those admiral fanboys
@RunD.Ones1s11 сағат бұрын
Right hand of the pirate king >>>>>> any admiral bum
@felwinterpeak167411 сағат бұрын
5:14 Imagine saying someone has weak endurance because they took a few attacks from a sword. The dude's chest gets cut open three times, and his wing gets cut off. Sword on Sword fights usually don't have the high endurance test like a good fist v fist. I'm pretty sure anyone would pass out. Hasn't that been a thing for Zoro fights. He gets a few scratches on them, like 2 or 4, and then he does his ult attack and wins. There is no way someone would believe that if (WCI) Luffy fought King, it would take 13 to 18 punches. Mihawk and Zoro better have an hours long fight with cuts and stab wounds everywhere.
You're pretty knowledged scaler which is rare in KZbin; however, there're some mistakes: 1. Benn's vivre states his presence is comparable to Shanks'. The sentence of strength is a different sentence to "Comparable" and "presence." 2. Where's official 1 commander Burgess? WB may also have been but till it's confirmed it's okay. The list was pretty well protected tho I'd heavily argue Zoro being anyhow close to yonko/admiral lvl
@Alex-wz9ze14 сағат бұрын
I would argue Zoro is admiral lvl
@bleacheman13 сағат бұрын
@Alex-wz9ze Zoro's best attack overpowered Kaido's non named regular defense which many did. Oden's attack knocked Kaido down whilst Zoro said he intended to do the same but failed w/ it only reopening the old scar. Zoro also admitted his haki was nothing compared to Oden's when he was taming Enma. Yama had used Thunder Bagua which nearly equalled Kaido's, but Kaido didn't use it to defend like vs Zoro, Kaido being struck by Thunder of his lvl would also get normally injured. Zoro wouldn't last few attacks in Ashura there whilst Yamato fought hybrid acoc Kaido for a long enough time with her still being able to fight after that, and Yama ain't a contender for admiral/yonko lvl. Zoro didn't tank Hakai, but only held it for a sec, according to Kid, and then Law moved him and the attack continued going to the sky and blew there, so Zoro was nearly killed by that. Yama, Law, Kid tanked multiple Kaido's attacks and Yama was still ready to go after Kaido, vs the bomb, and helping Momo.
@spiritualliving831813 сағат бұрын
Sabo is stronger than Zoro, I have Zoro bottom of mid admiral tier, sabo is top of mid admiral tier. Benn Beckman for me is high admiral tier range. Zoro ceiling with acoc ashura reaches low yonko tier but that is very limited so his overall rating is still not yonko. But ppl are sleeping on benn beckman and sabo who are the top 2 right hand mana currently. Zoro and shiryu are 3 and 4.
@bleacheman13 сағат бұрын
@@spiritualliving8318 I can agree with rankings but them being compared to admiral lvl which u underestimate heavily
@spiritualliving831813 сағат бұрын
@@bleacheman Not at all, mid admiral for me is fuji and greenbull, unless they have awakening then id maybe have them high admiral, for me kuzan is like in between yonko and high admiral without awakening, with it hed be yonko tier, kizaru and akainu are like low yonko without awakening, with it they would be mid- high yonko
@herickbrandelero229314 сағат бұрын
Goated list. I love Katakuri but I don't have any arguments to put him higher on the list
@Cyanduck48518 сағат бұрын
Interesting list here’s mine 1 Rayleigh 2 ben 3 zoro 4 King 5 shiryu 6 Killer 7 Marco 8 sabo 9 Kat 10 bepo
@RimuruTempest-wl1ru17 сағат бұрын
You really think sabo and marco are weaker than killer?
@InaviseYT17 сағат бұрын
Marco > king
@Cyanduck48517 сағат бұрын
@@RimuruTempest-wl1ru Marco could win but I give killer the slight edge But sabo is a bum
@shawnlord341916 сағат бұрын
@@RimuruTempest-wl1rusabo got no feats on killers lvl. Marco is mostly a damage sponge tbh. But you could argue him being on killers lvl
@GIVEPROOFKID15 сағат бұрын
Zoro>ben and ray neg diff
@Jj_27236 сағат бұрын
can you make a video on the marine bounties that oda confirmed. you were one of the first people to change my mind on thinking the admirals were frauds and now you’ve pretty much been vindicated.
@MadMaxTopShotta8 сағат бұрын
1. Prime reyleigh 2. Ben Beckmann 3. Marco the phoenix (idk how zoro over him?) 4. Oden( he was basically first mate b4 Marco) 5. Sabo 6. Zoro 7. King 8.kat 9. Killer 10. Shiriyu
@jamesbell11868 сағат бұрын
I completely agree that King outpaces Katakuri in most stats, but part of me still thinks Katakuri would win just based on mentality. King was massively overconfident against Zoro and was really poor at managing his Lunarian advantage optimally. Meanwhile Katakuri never underestimated Luffy and learned new moves on the fly to deal with him. I feel like Katakuri could take him just given enough time and patience.
@SenpaiSytama16 сағат бұрын
There is that theory that mihawk used to be to shanks what zoro is to luffy and beckman actually being the sanji of the crew and i loved that theory.
@zeez793513 сағат бұрын
Sabo portrayel is crazier than Beckman himself, i already bougth Akainu and Sabo stocks long ago
@coreyjasper832916 сағат бұрын
Just realized I wasn’t subscribed so I had to fix that real quick
@animefanboy113711 сағат бұрын
Can you make a video about ranking all the commanders in one piece
@Tom.A.C16 сағат бұрын
Great video and interesting list. However I have a few disagreements. First I would change Kat and Shiryu because i just cant see a way for kat losing to him or king. Second I would have Shiryu still above king. By every stat kat is superior to king except being invulnerable to every attack. Just like kaido stated haki prevales over all. And if we're only comparing haki, Kat is vastly supperior to king. First Kat has better observation haki, second Kat has better armament haki as we have seen through feats and by the mere fact that kat stated he had a higher tier of armament haki that luffy had in WCI. We also dont see much of any haki feats from King. And kat also has coc, and even though its not advanced it definitely adds to his fighting spirit/will. Also at no point did King ever land speed/blitz attack on Zorro. Everytime King came close Zoro was able to perceive and block him. Yes king overwelmed zoro with strength but ap or attack speed was definitely zoro, pre acoc. And kings laser beak attack only landed once on zoro and that was due to enma so Zoro really had nothing to worry about from King besides catching him with flame off and eventually using acoc. On top of that at no point did Zoro every use his strongest attack on king pre acoc. The move im talking about is the move he used on mihawk and pica. Unless im wrong.
@JW-ie8fr7 сағат бұрын
Accurate rankings for sure I get the Marco gas
@demontiming323413 сағат бұрын
Leave it to One Piece fans to lack inferring skills
@ab775512 сағат бұрын
honestly this video's pretty fair compared to others. especially cuz he acknowledges that some placements could go up or down. but i do think that some of the feats mentioned and feats in general are hella goofy like "dura neg"
@HDLOL-jc3oo11 сағат бұрын
Nah I think we glazing Marco too much, Kat and King would beat him
@handsmcgee83318 сағат бұрын
Marco got way better feats against much stronger foes, King couldn't even do anything 2v1 with Queen
@M_aak4 сағат бұрын
@@handsmcgee8331u mean the 2v1 that both didnt get injured , lets not forget marco was in hybrid while the both were using their base df 😂 yh marco definitely overhyped u fools only use that scene or the old marineford one everytime its so pathetic, none of marcos moves would do significant dmg to king with flames off and flames on king was keeping up with raid suit sanji in speed, he wouldnt even need to go flames off for marco 😂
@handsmcgee83314 сағат бұрын
@@M_aak Did Marco get injured in that 1v2 disadvantage? Cause last I checked he was just fine continuing to help besides having a few scratches & momentarily getting tired from everything he was doin. It's so funny how u guys try to spin that 1v2 to make Marco look bad when in reality two yonko commanders were getting embarassed on panel & didn't do jack despite having the big number advantage. King & Queen are also both shown in full zoan & base against Marco visibly frustrated, blitzed & overpowered lol. King couldn't even do anything significant on a hadicapped Marco let alone a 1v1 where his flames are basically useless, the real question would be how on Earth could King beat Marco when he's physically weaker & hard countered. Marineford feats are relevant here because we know Marco can at least hang with top tiers alone, we even see some of it in Wano against Big Mom but guess what? We can't say the same for King who constantly gets outclassed by stronger foes even with Queen by his side haha, face facts & cope harder.
@M_aak3 сағат бұрын
@handsmcgee8331 someone already mentioned and i already know ur just a fool wasting my time, marco didnt take dmg cuz he simply didnt get attacked why is that so hard to comprehend writing a whole paragraph of nothing if marco fought the king that fought koh zoro + the queen that fought ifrit sanji he would lose, and pretty badly he wont even get past king and if u believe so its still extreme diff to king alone. But believe what u Want i already knew majority of the fandom is stupid asf, ppl like u are common in this community and i ain't surprised
@clips92942 сағат бұрын
@@handsmcgee8331Marco got injured
@ngockjunior84821 минут бұрын
But you know it could also mean that Zoro pushed King to turn off he's flames in certain situations take the time Zoro first unlocked acoc
@shawnlord341916 сағат бұрын
Katakuri being above killer is crazy. Put kat on the rooftop and his getting cooked immediately just like act 1 luffy lol
@Alex-wz9ze13 сағат бұрын
Facts
@WindowLife.13 сағат бұрын
Are you attempting to claim that killer who lost to zoro without even using his main swords was stronger than gear 4 luffy? And if that’s the case they are you claiming that zoro was the strongest on the crew during the beginning of wano? 😭
@Goat-j7g7 сағат бұрын
Any rootop character low mid diff fodderkuri zoro and sanji also low diff this fruad@@WindowLife.
@WindowLife.7 сағат бұрын
@@Goat-j7g That didn't answer my question, are you attempting to claim zoro is the strongest on the crew at the beginning of wano.
@LuffyDGoat_275 сағат бұрын
brother katakuri would no diff-low diff killer. killer has very less haki feats, blud most probably just has basic armament haki and basic observation haki and has no devil fruit as well while katakuri has future sight, an armament haki that was stronger than pre wano luffy's and also has conquerors haki. Plus not to mention his amazing df
@millasboo12 сағат бұрын
4:36 Someone that actually acknowledges Marco is absolutely above King!
@shahidsidhu1042 сағат бұрын
Whitebeard is Vice captain of rocks pirates that's why he's first
@rajgaming19457 сағат бұрын
what about white beard? wasn't he a yc1 on the rocks crew?
@MUDAYT7 сағат бұрын
Meanwhile Whitebeard as a first commander(vice Captain) on Rocks Ship.......
@dqf98305 сағат бұрын
I thought I was the only one that remembered that
@MUDAYT4 сағат бұрын
@@dqf9830 I thought the same as well ngl
@nikjovan481614 сағат бұрын
I still have Sabo under King because King just does most things better than Sabo. Better speed, strength, a Ancient Zoan fruit, superior fire abillities. And thanks for being reasonable when it comes to Katakuri. Although I agree that he is probably the weakest 1st Commander I think the power cliffing thing gets way too overblown because no context is used in its arguments. Really agree with most of the list.
@handsmcgee83318 сағат бұрын
Sabo beats King where it matters most, haki. You're also forgetting things like overall skill, IQ, feats & portrayal all in which Sabo has over King. King isn't bad but ppl overrate him because of how much they like him, he actually didn't look that good against some of the stronger guys when it mattered even while teaming up with Queen & his other crewmates. Sabo actually has some feats against Admirals before even mastering his df whereas King with lots of help didn't look good against Marco or an Admiral and before you bring up the injured excuse, King & Queen (ancient zoans) still should've had enough time to recover to not get bodied like they did against Greenbull, it just shows the difference in levels imo
@icaroalbuquerque836312 сағат бұрын
Enters zoro, than Budokai Tenkaichi 3 ost starts...
Prime Rayleigh definitely the strongest first commander if you don't count Mihawk or Aokiji. Rayleigh really is the the middle ground between admiral and vice admiral.
@generalyousif364018 сағат бұрын
Between admiral and vice admiral? lol prime Rayleigh is equal to the emperors lol
@AyubAbdi-z7q18 сағат бұрын
@@generalyousif3640 hell no
@generalyousif364018 сағат бұрын
@@AyubAbdi-z7q Garp compared him to whitebeard js
@joe-k1t18 сағат бұрын
@@generalyousif3640 That was based off of notoriety. Plus old Rayleigh was struggling against a Kizaru not taking the fight all that seriously since we don't see him do half the things we see him do later on in the series.
@InaviseYT18 сағат бұрын
@@generalyousif3640honestly the only emperor you could argue him over is big mom
@ollie2378 сағат бұрын
Wait dose sabo actually get help in infiltrating marijoa ? I wasent paying that much attention so maybe I’m remembering it wrong but I swear sabo infiltrated marijoa as a royal guard then when he saw imu attack cobra he deflected one of there attacks
@M_aak4 сағат бұрын
Bro wtf just rewatch the show why make assumptions...
@M_aak4 сағат бұрын
This is exactly what happened with those sabo glazers "sabo 1v2 admirals and injured them", i already knew that was bs cuz all we saw was a verses poster with revolutionary against marines and funny sabo didnt touch one of them, the other revolutionaries actually fought the admirals for a while, what happened to that glaze why arent we scaling them high like they did with sabo, ppl love to overhype their favourites its pathetic
@madhavigaikwad3921Сағат бұрын
WB vice captain of the rocks pirates
@nobody420713 сағат бұрын
4:14 I’m not even there yet but can someone please tell me why everyone keeps putting Sabo that high based on nothing ? He didn’t show anything that puts him above Katakuri, King or Marco 🤦🏽♂️. The only thing he did was clashing with a not serious Fujitora, beating Dressrosa Burgess and fleeing from the Gorosei (just like Wapol did) Is it so hard to find an honest ranking that’s not based on theory but actual feats for once ? 5:31 How is King below Marco when Marco litteraly was exhausted in Wano 🤦🏽♂️? Even regarding AP, King is more powerful than Marco 7:21 Just rank Shiliew objectively and leave the narrative to Oda. You’re not in Oda’s mind 8:51 His armement haki is Dressrosa Luffy Level until shown otherwise 9:29 He can’t regenerate infinitely like the Gorosei. The more he does, he more he looses stamina. That’s why he was so weakened during Wano. 10:06 He dominated base versions of them. They weren’t at their best forms. King had his flames on all along and Queen wasn’t using his Germa Powers 10:24 Based on what information are you comparing King’s fire and Akainu’s magma ? 10:45 Marco doesn’t have any attack that could damage King’s Lunarian body 🤦🏽♂️
@shisuiedits4 сағат бұрын
7:08 gorp
@rakeemali84418 сағат бұрын
Why is this guy saying king has better durability than kaido lol? The reason Zoro wasn’t able to damage king is NOT because of durability my guy, it’s a trait of the lunarians' special anatomy. King literally describes it as a "power" and not his own toughness or durability. His body is likely doing something akin to logia devil fruits. His "durability" likely scales to whatever he has in his flame off mode. And this special trait of the lunarians can probably only be overcome/bypassed by overwhelming haki, this can be inferred from king blocking zoro's acoc attacks even when his flame is turned on
@M_aak4 сағат бұрын
Ur goofy, thats the same with kaido his hybrid mode is more durable than his base or dragon, it doesnt matter what ability is being used, king is basically impenetrable with his BLOOD, something he was born with, when flames on. Zoro used black twist tatsumaki on kaido and cut his scales, a stronger zoro used the same attack on king and it did nothing, stop being goofy, fools like u are so annoying
@M_aak4 сағат бұрын
And ur comment about king blocking zoros attacks, is still headcanon cuz it was not shown him getting cut with flames on, him blocking could just be him losing composure. Or he cant use his flames on constant in battle cuz of stamina i could say that as well, thats why we dont take that without proof
@rakeemali8441Сағат бұрын
@ you still didn’t/cant refute what im said cuz it’s literally stated to be a power. It’s also described by Zoro as a "trick" that he has to figure out. Also when he does figure it out, he never states that king's body gets tougher or anything of the sort when he figures out what’s going on, only that his "defenses get lower" defense can mean literally anything since Zoro doesn’t completely understand what’s going on himself. Also, if they literally describe kaido to be "tough" why didn’t he do the same for king if he’s even "tougher" like this guy is claiming? And, since when have we not used context clues in order to figure out what’s happening in a story? Not saying it’s concrete proof but you’re just inserting a much weaker and more illogical headcanon. It’s illogical to block an attack that you know can’t hit/harm you. Especially when he NEVER bothered blocking with his flames on before Zoro unlocked acoc. At one point before that, he even stands there and lets Zoro try to hit him lol.
@johndodo206214 сағат бұрын
King wasn't showing off chief. They made it very clear that the flame went out when he had to move quickly or was attacking. Wtf
@vegetacultminorityhunter18 сағат бұрын
Katakuri number 500+
@Alex-wz9ze13 сағат бұрын
You do know Rayleigh wasn’t a “commander” right? He was the vice captain of the Roger pirates
@chiefgamingxl807013 сағат бұрын
Isn’t Mihawk technically a 1st commander?
@spiritualliving831813 сағат бұрын
Prime ray was low-mid yonko level The proper list is more like this tho 1 Benn beckman 2 Sabo 3 Zoro/shiryu 4 Zoro / Shiryu 5 King 6 Katakuri 7 Marco 8 Bogard (hc) Im not including prime or old ray in this
@mr.q33714 сағат бұрын
I want to see Katakuri vs King
@trav132512 сағат бұрын
Katakuri would lose kings fire beats mochi
@toptier34717 сағат бұрын
what about whitebeard for rocks? even tho we dont know who was first commander, he should have one
@dqf98306 сағат бұрын
Kat at 8 is crazy
@clips92942 сағат бұрын
Should be 9
@kiingsama94415 сағат бұрын
Your vid should be labeled top 10 vice captains not commanders. Reyliegh, bepo and killer aren't commanders.
@ronaldosanchez198715 сағат бұрын
Lmao 2012 King Von 😂😂😂
@Rdc_Dom16 сағат бұрын
I feel like Killer should be Above Katakuri. Killer shows relatively to stronger characters and does pierce Kaido like you said. I don't really have much evidence other than it just feels like Killer should be stronger
@willclark44499 сағат бұрын
zorro wouldnt beat marco yet.
@madhavigaikwad3921Сағат бұрын
Shiryu not aokiji
@Yonkohep5 сағат бұрын
Put some respect on Sabo
@monarekabi400214 сағат бұрын
If we're including Kuzan and Mihawk I would have the top 3 ranked differently. I would have it as follows: 1. Prime Rayleigh 2. Mihawk 3. Kuzan The reason why BB ran away when he saw Rayleigh was because he had PTSD of all the work Rayleigh put in back in his prime. And he didn't want any of those problems. He's seen what Rayleigh is capable of from his days back in the WB Pirates
@Alex-wz9ze13 сағат бұрын
Rayleigh isn’t a commander anyways he’s a vice captain
@idseniddy264513 сағат бұрын
Mihawk > Prime Ray Cut it out
@envy893313 сағат бұрын
@@idseniddy2645Fr man I hate how people overrate Rayleigh just cus he’s from the old gen.
@Yamato_Solos13 сағат бұрын
Mihawk >
@millasboo12 сағат бұрын
@@Alex-wz9zethat’s a commander
@ttschannel87518 сағат бұрын
If sengoku was marine captain. Then akainu is marine first commander right
@InaviseYT18 сағат бұрын
No, Akainu would be the captain and Kizaru would be first commander
@Onyx-IL17 сағат бұрын
@@InaviseYT There is no "First commander", they are not pirates, the structure is different, and also not every pirate crew has a real "first commander", sometimes "2nd stronger" is more accurate.
@InaviseYT17 сағат бұрын
@@Onyx-IL I misread what he said. I thought he was saying if they marines were a pirate crew
@Takt.mp417 сағат бұрын
Bepo is the strongest
@Amused_monster13 сағат бұрын
Where white beard
@gildartsclive90033 сағат бұрын
its 1 ray 2 benn 3 zoro 4 king 5 sabo 6 marco 7 katakuri 8 shiryu (for now) 9 killer 10 bepo mihawk/kuzan are not 1st comanders
@shem2k13 сағат бұрын
You lost me at katakuri how tf is he ova killer😂😂
@MicaW4VE13 сағат бұрын
How is killer over kat in any stat?
@brothsipper-h5o13 сағат бұрын
He has better speed and yes he would get cooked by one of Kilelrs attacks but Killers durability is buns he got cooked by Zoro 3 sword style which was weaker since he was injured and didn't have his main sword so Katakuri would just being to dodge Kilelrs attacks while attacking him with his Gear 4 level attacks which are stronger than Zoro
@ricardocastro99226 сағат бұрын
Idk I think it’s just me but I feel like katakuri beats Marco 😂
@LuffyDGoat_275 сағат бұрын
same
@mrpalk17 сағат бұрын
Zoro isnt even above base Sanji pre augmentation in speed, the panel only showed Zoro and Sanji end up in the same place at the same time and cant be used to show relativity as Zoro couldve been closer or had an early lead
@RimuruTempest-wl1ru17 сағат бұрын
Sanji is weaker than rooftop Zoro get bro past jimbei first
@adarshav460917 сағат бұрын
In previous comment u are saying sanji is stronger now u are saying sanji is close to Zoro are u some kind of brain dead or what ? 😂
@LuffyDGoat_275 сағат бұрын
nah they started from the same position at the same time
@mrpalk4 сағат бұрын
@@RimuruTempest-wl1ru illiterate lowkey
@mrpalk4 сағат бұрын
@@LuffyDGoat_27 Sanji couldve been matching Zoro's speed, its not a feat lol
@briggsbarcillano778214 сағат бұрын
It will be whitebeard at no 1 spot
@demontiming323413 сағат бұрын
Marco scaling is absurd, he cannot beat King or Queen. When Marco fought them both neither of them were trying, all Marco did was temporarily stalemate a King and Queen who weren’t taking him seriously.
@MicaW4VE13 сағат бұрын
Marco wasn't trying to beat them either, and this is a fatigued marco whos constantly draining his energy using his powers to help the ice oni disease holding back 2 yonko commanders
@handsmcgee83319 сағат бұрын
No it's not Marco's feats as a 1st commander is up there. It's funny how to this day some you still can't see that Marco was just holding them back & keeping them busy on the live floor for the alliance, he never intended to defeat King or Queen. If anything its not a good look on King/Queen that they ultimately couldn't do anything to Marco throughout that whole time using plenty of attacks on him lol
@demontiming32349 сағат бұрын
@@handsmcgee8331 it was actually the other way around, neither of them were transformed or even used any of there attacks on him. They literally weren’t taking him serious at all, while he was going all out on them. One Piece fans and there agendas never cease to piss me off. It wasn’t that his only objective was to hold them back, it was actually that holding them back was the most that Marco could do entirely. Because both King and Queen were unscathed coming out of that encounter. Marco literally did no damage, it was like Luffy fighting Kaido at the beginning of Wano. You are using headcanon at this point
@MicaW4VE8 сағат бұрын
@@demontiming3234 they were being damaged, just because their main gimmick is being Tanky does not mean just cuz they aren't crying in agony 24/7 that they're completely fine. Fatigued marco vs 2 YCs btw and the 2YCs couldn't do shit the entire time but wait until Marco was completely exhausted.
@demontiming32348 сағат бұрын
@ they were sandbagging him because he wasn’t doing any damage 😭😭. You just proved my point. And if you don’t know what sandbagging is, it’s when a character doesn’t prioritize dodging and just runs through attacks because the attacks are weak. You must be new to anime/manga. You can tell if they took damage by the marks on their character. That’s how you can tell that they were unscathed. They were completely clean.
@MrHolmesss14 сағат бұрын
Katakuri is stronger than King shiryu and Marco lol
@TheProphetLot16 сағат бұрын
I have Killer over Katakuri, does anyone agree?
@Alex-wz9ze13 сағат бұрын
I agree
@MicaW4VE13 сағат бұрын
Killer is getting blitzed by snakeman luffy
@brothsipper-h5o13 сағат бұрын
It's definitely plausible but Killers durability is buns and also he was on par with Zoro who was relative to base or Gear 2 Luffy who would get perception blitzed by Boundman Luffy who couldn't even hit Katakuri
@guygomez69497 сағат бұрын
Keyyyzru
@trav132512 сағат бұрын
King beat Marco though
@handsmcgee83318 сағат бұрын
in Two Piece?
@lucidluhx60884 сағат бұрын
kat>king
@jit-o7e12 сағат бұрын
Forgetting bogard
@lasteep15 сағат бұрын
This video has like 10 thousands mistakes
@lasteep15 сағат бұрын
But W
@antoniocabanas354013 сағат бұрын
Right now Zoro isn’t stronger than Marco
@armandohhh15 сағат бұрын
Nah Zoro is the Strongest
@MathisCallesen13 сағат бұрын
👁 👁 👄
@mrpalk18 сағат бұрын
0:29 2nd to only the captain is crazy when Sanji is stronger than Zoro rn
@Alfred-wd4017 сағат бұрын
Haha funny
@RimuruTempest-wl1ru17 сағат бұрын
Only delusional people believe that
@adarshav460917 сағат бұрын
are in high while commenting?😂
@SlickSIoth16 сағат бұрын
Base zoro to base sanji sure, sanji would likely win because of his exoskeleton. Unfortunately we’ve been shown time & time again Haki trumps all. Zoro with King of Hell can consciously apply advanced conquerors coating to his swords & truly at this point there just aren’t many people active in the story, with credible feats, that can match up to that
@adarshav460915 сағат бұрын
@@SlickSIoth now zoro can use acoc even if he apply to his basic attacks it will increase his AP and DP significantly I don't think even Zoro need king of hell to beat sanji even just by feats zoro roof top feats > sanjis feats till now in the story so base Zoro with acoc can beat sanji.