RANT - GW releases the second bum Warhammer 40K Imperial Guard Codex in a row. This needs to stop!

[@DaRedWunzGoFasta]

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[@chrisbruno99]

They should sell the codecies as art and lore books. Then publish the rules online.

[@DaRedWunzGoFasta]

@chrisbruno99 this is what I want. This would be soooo much better.

[@woppowop7025]

Agreed 👍. buying the codex code on it's own at a cheaper cost would be great.

[@lioneljonson29k]

Maybe this is why you’re not the CEO of a company with a solid history of profitable growth. Their job is to make enough people just happy enough to make more money than the previous year. Nothing more. Literally nothing else. This is what their investors demand. Any company that ignores their investors and panders to its “fans” will go out of business UNLESS enough of the fans stop being customers. ONLY then. The best companies find a good balance. GW is not one of those 😂

[@b4ds33d]

This. Core rules book should be free on the app too. The 60 you make on the book would immediately be spent on minis. It’s insane.

[@ed2635]

They do. That's what the code at the back of the book is for. I think it would be better if they replaced the datasheets and a lot of the in-game info etc with details or stories about individual unit types though. Reading about aquillons or kasrkin or bullgryn or all the other units would be great.

[@boroswalker7923]

Here's an idea for GW: Don't change your base rules every 3 years! If GW keeps the pattern going 11th Edition of 40K is due out June 2026, and there is a 50/50 chance that all armies will be Indexed again! The last army codex will likely be out less than 6 months, and whatever galaxy shattering event story they play out over several campaign books will also be invalidated. As a longtime player, with that kind of churn rate, I'm surprised anyone plays the game anymore.

[@TorianTammas]

I was surprised decades ago how this circle of whatever book came out last smashes the others.

[@Malisteen]

no testing or editing despite multi-year development pipelines, dev teams operating with skeleton crews despite GW being the biggest players in the market. You're not going to see the stuff you're asking for, because you're asking for content, and content requires effort, and effort requires staff.

[@onkelgroen]

People complaining about rules. GW: We're a miniature company, not a rules company! Also GW, every 15,4 seconds: Got some new rules coming out, check out the awesome newness!

[@frankyuengling8074]

Simply selling your IP to Amazon is not sustainable. GW needs to go to a five year rotation and get it right. Hire a proper game designer to get the rules right the first time. Use proper play testing and release nothing without proper editing.

[@stevenschnepp576]

Arguably, they need to do away with the idea of editions entirely and move on to a living ruleset. They can replace edition churn with campaign books.

[@AlexDenton0451]

I'm a Battletech player primarily. Our ruleset has not significantly changed since the 90's and minis from then are just as allowed as new ones. This is how it should be.

[@TorianTammas]

Editions are the only reason GW is alive. They constantly hand out one faction book that smashes the other until the next comes out. All few years they make a new edition and forbid or make useless old minis. So they sell new minis.

[@TorianTammas]

​@@AlexDenton0451Yes and the reason why Battlezech franchise never made millions like GW

[@Supreme-Mentalman]

The game is very good at the moment. Extremely balanced.

[@SupermarketZombies]

It's unfortunate how low value these new codexes have had for the past several editions now

[@thecactusman17]

The crazy thing is, to this day people LOVE the old Imperial Armor books which were basically just books of art and lore with narrative-only unit and campaign rules. So the collector-focused coffee table art book full of lore and artwork hasn't just been done before, it's actually still one of the most popular series of rulebooks they ever put out. It introduced readers to never before seen units like the Baneblade, multiple Leman Russ alternative variants, factions and regiments such as the Death Korps of Krieg, and more. Focusing on this sector of the market with high-value collectible books aimed at artists and hobbyists would be a much better use of resources, satisfying the deep pockets of the collector market while free online rules pull players cheaply and efficiently into the core tabletop game. It would also reduce the constant buyer fatigue of players needing to justify multiple rulebook purchases every year just to attend gaming events - a problem that has directly lead to increased piracy and low sales of rulebooks and codex equivalents not only for 40k itself but several other game systems.

[@DaRedWunzGoFasta]

@thecactusman17 you are 100% correct! Imperial Armor was an amazing series of books and are still incredibly valuable.

[@thecactusman17]

@@DaRedWunzGoFasta It's worth noting also that those IA books aren't valuable because of any rules, all of which are outdated by several editions now. It's the art, lore and campaign inspirations that many Warhammer enthusiasts still seek out. When's the last time you intentionally opened a rulebook or codex for a previous edition for any reason other than winning an online argument? bu8t any time I see Imperial Armor on a shelf, I crack it open and gaze longingly at models I've never seen on a real tabletop, wondering how they'd look in my collection.

[@yeastov5470]

I find it odd that that considering the way that you access rules legally, GW continuing to implement soup rules is bizarre. They have these rules which let you buy more models from different ranges, but then paywall you behind using those rules (unless you use Waaaghpedia of course).

[@iainbrodie5740]

Got the CSM codex and cards. Excited to see what was in it. Everything useful that wasn't on the cards like the army and detachments rules, enhancements and stratagems, could have been printed on a dozen cards and saved me the cost of the book. The points values in the book were invalid before I even opened the book. I'd love to get a love letter-type book that expands on the crusade rules, adding in old units for casual play, ideas for painting and building your army. General fluffy goodness. Army rules that are fluffy would be nice, too.

[@DaRedWunzGoFasta]

@iainbrodie5740 man I'm sorry about that buying experience.

[@boroswalker7923]

At this point I have to wonder why GW even put points in the books anymore. They might as well just put the website for the points in the back of the codex and say "Find the up to date points for your army here"

[@514HiphopHead]

I think the way GW handles things and their obvious total lack of care is unacceptable. We pay way too much to be laughed at. Like you said, we pay PREMIUM FUCKING PRICE, nowadays more than ever. For that reason alone we should expect and get PREMIUM FUCKING PRODUCTS. Unacceptable. Real eviil corporate greed seems to have taken over GW and their practices.

[@blissfulbadger]

GW keeps looking for ways to make more sales. They've been trying to get the subscription model up and running, plus charging more for their models, and codexes... I just wish companies (not just GW!) would consider customer retention these days instead of pump-and-dump new sales everywhere.

[@stevenschnepp576]

Maybe after they go bankrupt.

[@gealgain2420]

The 9th edition AM/IG codex release was even worse in a way you didn't cover, GW didn't announce 10th edition until shortly after the new codex was released. Yes, there were rumors, but none of them confirmed. Sadly, I went in on the limited edition of the 9th edition GW codex, the accompanying cards are still in the plastic wrap as I tossed them out.

[@DaRedWunzGoFasta]

@@gealgain2420 ooof, I forgot about that!

[@hendrikmoons8218]

I've been playing Wh40k since end 2nd edition, on and off... After 7th edition, that's 8th and onward, I've noticed that most of the general rules and the codeci suck. 1. Point vaulue wrong or invalid in a week or even on launch. 2. Rules get erata-ed on launch. 3. Forget special rules par unit. 4. The codex is underwhelming at launch. Since they droped 'destroyer weapons' for 'mission objectives' balancing went out of the window. There is also the hero power creep that forces folk if they want to play competetive to play with as many big names as possible. This is also pushed for lore lovers.

[@Akalos1]

I also got my start in 2nd edition with the big blood angels versus orks box. It's like we've returned to the hero hammer of second edition without the fun.

[@hendrikmoons8218]

@@Akalos1 Allas, what you said, summed it up... where did 'the fun' go? All them mission cards & orders make things needlessly complex imo.

[@peterclarke7006]

I'm an old wargamer, started 40k in the old Rogue Trader days, but while I still enjoy the lore and the memes, I'm consistently baffled why anyone actually plays 40k any more. GW show their customers absolutely no respect. They're like a drug cartel laughing at all the street junkies they've created.

[@DaRedWunzGoFasta]

@peterclarke7006 I think there is a quite large contingent of us who still love the setting but don't actively play, especially the newest edition.

[@Supreme-Mentalman]

I’ve played since rouge trader also. 10th edition is the best edition we have ever had. And 9th was good as well. Yes GW charges a lot. They use FOMO etc. The reason I like 10th the best is GW constantly patches the game. The older editions were a mess.

[@peterclarke7006]

@@Supreme-Mentalman 🤣 sure thing, buddy. You do you.

[@Akalos1]

@@Supreme-Mentalman I got my start with 2nd edition when things were an unbalanced herohammer mess: 8th through 10th feel like a rapid descent into the worst set of rules yet for the game: all the hero hammer without any of the "My dudes" that made 2nd bearable.

[@jonneff]

I've been saying for months , because GW always has statements floating around that their Warhammer+ doesn't do as well as they hoped. They should be offering up the Codex's as a digital purchase through that for a reduced cost. This would solve an issue of not being able to have it available , and for some who just need the data sheets updated in the app. I'd rather pay 20-25 bucks for just getting the army unlocked instantly because as it stands now which is F'n stupid when new codex drops your army LOCKS OUT from data sheets even tho you ALREADY purchased the last codex. It's a real slimy way of doing business and Im shocked no one has called them out on that bullshit. Like how do you FORCE my app to lock the army I paid for , plus the codex I already paid for just because I didn't get the new book day 1, but not offer up a digital purchase to unlock the army in the app?..

[@sethdevita2179]

And don't forget, a new Eldar Codex. Every new edition, a new codex, with stupid new models, stupid new rescale, and stupid new rules and new items to force you to purchase them - if you are stupid, naturally.

[@Akalos1]

Just 3d print and play older editions. I don't get why people bother with modern 40k.

[@sethdevita2179]

@@Akalos1 3D printing is a flash in the pan. I tried, only to immediately give up. 2-4 hours per print? Can you imagine the Tyranids player? The infinite parameters to know and set that prevent the printer from working? The 3D models that you CAN'T find online, because GW requisition them? The creators of 3D models to print, who quickly turned into mercenaries? Those who talk about printing aren't even aware of the nightmare they're putting themselves in. Nobody plays the old editions, because of FOMO. I don't even want to dwell on those pathetic people who play Grimdark Future alone... you can't find a better admission of GW power. And anyway i don't like people who tell me to move on to something else. He should get the speck out of his eye first.

[@b4ds33d]

A codex should cost $20. I’ll pay $60 for a core rules book, but so many more people would buy it and therefore the models… win win.

[@Supreme-Mentalman]

GW’s business model is the buy in from new people getting into the hobby. Not veterans who buy in dribs and drabs. Yeah I’d rather Gw gave me a bunch of free stuff, they obviously won’t if they can make money. They dominate the market. The upside of them dominating the market is I will always have people to play, events to go to, and the game will never die. Good luck with the two or so guys at your local club who play Trench Crusade, who won’t be playing it in a years time. 😂 Then guess what you have to move city, and now you don’t have anyone to play against as nobody plays it at the new place. 😂😂😂😂

[@bopaintsminis]

Have a like and a comment. Honestly, the continuous rules changes are what keeps me out of the game. I am afraid I would be too casual to chase the rules.

[@SoaD89er]

It is crazy times. Haven't played a game in over a decade. Started out with 2nd or 3rd edition as a kid. Started collecting models again over the last 1.5 years. Couldn't even get rid of my old space marines since the primaris changes. Still have old usable guard and now a lot of newer Astra Militarum blended in (mind you I got rid of my Catachans for the sake of cohesion). I used to buy many codices for imperial forces. I had every space marine codex. I would buy all the Imperial Guard/Catachan/Ordo Malleus etc. codex. They were cool. They had rules and stats but they also had the lore and painting etc. They were cheap and appreciated. The fact they can't produce a clean copy to push out on day 1 is a real sad testament to where the company is these days. For too long now, GW appears to be geared towards extracting maximum profits from all interactions. They no longer make a cool product and let its coolness get new people involved. Now they're heavily invested in TV/movies/games etc. to keep bringing in new crowds to the models. Milking every existing customer for everything you can get doesn't lead to long-term growth. Rules should be something online that is available to everyone for your game (paid subscription, sure) out of fairness and to ensure things are kept balanced and updated. I still buy GW products because I loved the kits. I still buy GW books because I love the lore. I'll probably teach my kids about the game as they get older. I have no interest in having to re-buy my army every few years or re-buy all the reading materials every two years. I don't see myself playing any games in the near future aside from maybe Necromunda/Kill Team etc. at the small end. The primaris BS really left a sour taste in my mouth. I've started to purchase 3D printed models as I have not interest in playing at a GW event in the future. I may even just get a 3D printer in the future and complete my "dream" army that way. They can kill my love for the game but they can't kill my love for the universe they created. Enjoyed the video and wasn't my first time seeing you pop up on the channel. All the best in the future.

[@TorianTammas]

3D printer became easy and affordable. A lot of designer offer cool models for a small reasonable price. Once you own the STL it is up to you how many models you print.

[@TorianTammas]

Can someone explain me why people pay premium overpriced product for a mediocre product or more often one with wrong information.

[@DaRedWunzGoFasta]

@TorianTammas that's the thing, I think a lot of people aren't. GW is making money hand over fist on video games, but the actual core 40K product really isn't doing as well. Only 3 US Opens for 2025 after having 6 just 2 years ago.

[@Oblivius33]

How many more burns is it going to take before people ditch Gw?

[@herzbruder33]

I love the Old World model where you can get all the basic game info on ALL armies in THREE books and then have the flavor and extras in arcane journals. Points and rules updates online would definitely work for 40k which changes a lot more month to month

[@DaRedWunzGoFasta]

@herzbruder33 that's a GREAT point! Old World is ran much, much better than any other GW product right now.

[@MrHaicken]

This is basically the 'index' model applied in a more player friendly way. GW also runs ME:SBG using this model. I guess GW loves that sweet, sweet codex money.

[@Anathema0420]

I always said 2nd edition was flawed but you got everything needed in that book to run an army.

[@lullabygully4621]

2nd Edition Codexes were Beast, I still have the Chaos one

[@Anathema0420]

@@lullabygully4621 brother, yes that's the pinnacle of 2nd edition codices. It was the biggest and most filled with insanely valuable artwork and full circle wargear cards. Cheers bruv

[@mellily6178]

I am a huge fan of Codex books...but the combination of having many more armies, they cost almost $100 in Australia now...and the incorrect things/faq wait/delay..or oops here are the changes to your brand new rules is rough. If they are going to keep making changes so often, I really think the rules need to be free online. I can't justify the Warhammer plus subscription/app. We all play both 40k & AOS so I have a LOT of books I we collected over the years. So far I got the Ork codex for 10th, hubby has Tau & our son has Tyranids, Genestealer Cults & Space Marines.

[@Havic1137]

I am almost glad the 9th edition guard codex came out last. It ripped tons of flavor out of the 8th codex. I enjoyed playing them without updated rules in Crusade far more than I liked the rather vapid-feeling rules from the 9th edition. I'd rather just play the older editions with my friends home brewed how we like them.

[@dougolds8195]

I want a digital living rule book where all the armies get a simultaneous update on some regular basis. Id do a 65.00 year subscription and have all the rules. Books should be love letters to the hobbyist full of lore, art, and specialty stuff like crusade. Dont put data cards in them that are going to be invalid day one.

[@DaRedWunzGoFasta]

@@dougolds8195 the rules should all be included in Warhammer + honestly

[@Akalos1]

Digital only sucks for other reasons. As a player of the other games on the market where the rules are completely digital, I can't recommend it. I'd rather drop a hundred dollars for every army book every three years than go all digital.

[@omgponies111]

How the codex works today is fundamentally flawed. The game of 40k is right now a living game where the rules gets updated regularly several times a year. The codexes are written months in advance due to them needing to be sent to the printer. That means when the codex are released the rules have probably changed in such a way that the codex are incompatible with the updated rules. Add to that a varying quality of how well the codexes seems to be written and a lack of QA and the codexes clearly doesn't have the quality needed for such a premium pricepoint.

[@demacherius1]

I love when people buy the codex and those stupid cards and half is missprinted, misspelled or straight up wrong. This is before the first balance update.

[@DaRedWunzGoFasta]

@demacherius1 I don't know how ANYBODY buys those cards!?! They are sooo expensive and they are all wrong. Like all of them. Even the Mission Pack ones!

[@Zabzim]

8:20 Friend the 3rd/4th edition imperial guard codex your hand is 20 years old at best. It’s the second edition codex at 9:25 which is 30 years old this year. Also second edition 40K is both wild and jank

[@DaRedWunzGoFasta]

@Zabzim 3rd edition dropped in 1998 my dude, that's 27 years ago.

[@Zabzim]

@ well it was in October of 1998 so 27 years is exaggerating the truth. Also the 3rd edition imperial guard codex didn’t get released until 2003 (untill then they used index supplement which I have knocking around somewhere). What is 30 years old (this year) is the original 2nd edition codex you showed at 9:25 so maybe you just your editions mixed up.

[@Akalos1]

2nd edition was awesome and fun too though.

[@Zabzim]

@ 2nd Ed was fun in a jank way but you really shouldn’t be nostalgic for it. Because it wasn’t balanced in the slightest. Jain Zar could solo your entire army in close combat and totally would do so unless you killed it first by driving a rhino with dozer blade into it.

[@HephaestesVulcan]

I personally would love both to be printed, but have the rules ALSO available free online. I like having paper in my hands while playing, so I'd buy printed rules if they were correct (at least when they came out). It would mean I'd have to update them myself before playing, but i can live with that. At the smaller price point of 25-30. Not 60.

[@DaRedWunzGoFasta]

@@HephaestesVulcan oooh, I like that idea! $20 printed rules with data cars or a cheatsheet or whatever AND the $50 lore/art book?!? That's brilliant!

[@robtibbetts890]

I feel bad for the folks who bought the DKoK box at this point. A very pretty combat patrol and a rushed army book is not worth that MSRP.

[@DaRedWunzGoFasta]

@@robtibbetts890 100% why I didn't buy one!

[@timcirulis5273]

It seems to me you could make more money selling overpriced model game pieces if the rules to the game were free.

[@gwyn5144]

They will get my money when they improve the game and stop "streamlineing" it. 40k dosnt feel like 40k anymore. What used to make chapters unique is basically gone. Making your own squad of customized dudes is basically gone. Everything is just primaris with no choices. Tanks feel like creatures not tanks. Where is the customization. Sure the old rules could be tedious but that's in my opinion what made it 40k. Don't know somthing? Consult the old head wizard in the store on a rule. Remember those templates? Yeah they were great. No deus ex machine powers just what your squad or group has. No "strategems" the bs those are.

[@stevenschnepp576]

It's deeply weird that the Space Marine units have less customization than even the Guard squads, especially knowing that tacticals are on their way out. I like the idea of squads all armed with special weapons, but I miss when those were called Devastator Squads and you had options with them.

[@gwyn5144]

@@stevenschnepp576 remember when the blood angels were the only chapter that could field a entire army of terminators. or space wolves were unique because you could put a single wolf guard in basically any squad.

[@dakkaflakkaflame]

I agree with Old Big Mek and others that it would be much better if the rules were cheap/free and digital and GW would instead sell more timeless art and lore books. I've spent an embarrassing amount of money on older Warhammer books for editions and game systems I'll never play just because I enjoy the art and lore. I don't feel bad about dropping a bunch of money on a 'Ere We Go or Imperial Armor 8, because those books have lasting value. A lot of the new books are so skimpy on art and fluff and the rules are out of date pretty much immediately so I do feel bad about buying those.

[@lord17c]

if they sold the rules for a decent price, 10-15 bucks, then id buy a lore book.

[@DaRedWunzGoFasta]

@lord17c I still say the rules should be free and then the lore book would sell a lot better

[@vivimusjenos8174]

Although i use the app for rules i hate it due to having to constantly go through tabs when i need to remember a rule or stat, where as back in 5th edition we had the good old reference page in the back of every codex with every models stats. I miss 5th edition 😔

[@damiangaunt8784]

You might want to try Warmachine. All the rules are free, regularly updated in the app. All the armies and all their rules are free too. The only thing that's behind a paywall is the lore. GW doesn't listen, has never listened and as long as whales keep buying bad products, they'll continue to make bad products. Also GW has plenty of new players, they don't need disgruntled old players, you've spent your money already.

[@calvinryder3195]

Give them H3LL OldBigMek!! Give me 3rd Edition all day long. great video!!

[@DaRedWunzGoFasta]

@@calvinryder3195 thank you!

[@dakkaflakkaflame]

I've actually been thinking about making a 3rd Edition army using some of my minis from back then

[@WyvernMinis]

"I'm gonna rant and you're gonna listen" 🤣🤣 yes sir Big Mek!

[@WyvernMinis]

Now I have listened, I can't agree more. All rules for current armies need to be free and digital and kept up to date, I've been saying that for ages. If the games are supposed to sell the minis then why not make the rules free to help sell the minis?! I agree that people would buy art / fluff books, but your idea to have legends in the books too is a great idea. Old books like the Armageddon Codex were inspired, with just enough lore and rules for special units and armies...

[@josephrigley8974]

They think they can just sell the books and cause they have the app its all good, half the rules updates are worse than the rules that preceded them. Codexes drive me up the wall, its just so backwards.

[@jamesbee3087]

Gw will never change

[@stankshop]

Faq on day one is ridiculous. I feel your idea about all rules online and make codexes for the other things you said. That way if they go nuts with pictures you arent looking at rules on a page then have to skip 3 pages to keep reading.

[@DaRedWunzGoFasta]

@@stankshop right? Make me *want* to buy it, not make me *have* to buy it!

[@eaglesridge7896]

D1 FAQ is fine if it fixes stuff that needs it. I prefer it to three weeks of people playing with half-asses points nobody likes

[@joetickle8304]

Better to have constant updated then waiting a year to fix broken armies... and no I don't want them to spend more time per codex because I don't want to wait a decade for a new one if mine just came out. The rules are easy to find online for free and if you go to a GW event you have to buy in... that's the cost. (Btw feel free to complain I know you're just complaining about a game you love and the company making money by taking advantage of that love...just being the devil's advocate)

[@CadianRefugee]

This man speaks the truth

[@owen6830]

I hope trench crusade succeeds massively as a war game not because I’m particularly interested in it but so that GW feels the heat and gets their crap together

[@aldrixlevy228]

Man, I'm so sick of it. I keep seeing KZbinrs getting shilled by them. No, for the 6944'th time, I don't like discount 40k, youtube. Disliked and don't recommend video/channel.

[@owen6830]

@@aldrixlevy228 How much of it are you seeing? I've only really seen 2 channels (well technically 3 if we count this video) make significant mention of trench crusade. Granted I could also just be living under a rock

[@mattl_]

If you’re looking for a similar game that you can use your existing models, look at Mantic Firefight. There’s one book with everything.

[@MrHaicken]

The ability to continually update digitally has become widespread in our societies. Release it in 'Beta' is the norm. With quarterly updates and players using online tools, GW has a lot less incentive to 'get it right' before release. As long as people keep buying the codices, this will continue, and I suspect if codex sales decreased, we might see the codex go away. As to 'lore only' books, I doubt those would sell well at all. Just look at how many times lore and art books for various media end up in the discount bin at regular book stores.

[@aidanmagill6769]

You have the power to stop it. Stop complaining while voluntarily emptying your wallet at them.

[@DaRedWunzGoFasta]

@aidanmagill6769 I didn't buy a new codex! I bought my 9th Edition one for $5 after 10th came out and they became worthless.

[@jonthanechols6410]

This is why i completely quit 40k. Gw absolutely does not respect their customers anymore and sadly people will continue to fall for the same bs gw pulls. Kill team is a far better game. I'm just playing 3rd edition for 40k.

[@DaRedWunzGoFasta]

@@jonthanechols6410 3rd edition 4 life!

[@jonthanechols6410]

@DaRedWunzGoFasta I really wanna try 3rd with alternating turns, playing kill team I just can't go back to turns being long and drawn out. Quicker and more fun games that way.

[@jellyneckrules7971]

Wha wha what games workshop phoned it in again......lol nothing new

[@chrisk1278]

I can smell what the rock is cooking!!!

[@DaRedWunzGoFasta]

@@chrisk1278 lol!!

[@JordanThunder-m3x]

I’m going to pick up my krieg box next week end so this kinda sucks but I guess I’ll just tell myself it’s all collectible lol🤦‍♂️

[@kdhlkjhdlk]

All codexes suck. Free rules in a pdf, get updates. Sell an art + lore book.

[@DaRedWunzGoFasta]

@@kdhlkjhdlk 100%!

[@WilliamKuby]

well me thare three books i get to play last will be DA orks space mareind and well guard like do kaos and elder and kaos cultes like do demonic troops like in dawn of war witch have both but at $60 bucks just three have to do just wish be LAST EEDD to buy books the $ 180 buck rathe spend on minis even NON GW ones say 3D prints fore my bikini guard from acost the relms look at war gane exsusive on that or esay or brothers vinny yes doing boaring guard but neeed fun girl guard to do and last two mini lines like get so say hay to kis and if got pets tret em and yes mis big red one and to nest vid thats my rant

[@CatchFlipsidE]

I could go into much more detail, and I’m sure this won’t be the most popular take, but here’s how I think it should work. No had copy books at all. No print on demand, no printing available as that’s going to make it so that GW will never do this. But, make everything digital and inside the Warhammer App for both 40K and AoS. You pay $15 per month, and you get access to every single set of rules out there for every faction plus the big rule book and all lore that would usually be found in the codex. Directly update those rules with all errata, FAQs, points, etc. And that’ll just be an add on to what is already available through Warhammer+. As far as a third edition book being worth more than a ninth edition book… that could honestly be value based on rarity for those niche collectors out there that want all of the codices for a given army. It honestly may have nothing to do with the rules in the book. I’m not saying that it’s not the rules that brought the value down, but it may not be.

[@stevenschnepp576]

Subscription for rules is a terrible idea beyond even GW's worst anti-consumer actions.

[@CronosVids]

If they ever figure out to build a strong and balanced core game with decent rules that don’t have to change for a decade. Then you would be able to add flavour to every army with their own army rules. Like a game of chess, you have basic rules on how to play. And to add variety you can buy different pawns with their own rules to play differently. That way the base game stays decent and you can balance within the army rules. Plus, and this might be a very unpopular opinion, they need to cull a whole number of armies. Less armies means easier balancing. But why would a money making machine decided to produce less. So here’s to wishful thinking and I’m glad I’ve decided to skip at least 2025 from buying GW products.

[@leonordiaz2371]

Maybe tempestus scions don't ds anymore? Maybe the new aquilons do so scions lost the rule? Jeez

[@DaRedWunzGoFasta]

@leonordiaz2371 GW fixed that in an errata last week mate. Scions DS again, which makes the Codex wrong.

[@DarkhorseOldWorlders]

40K is cancer. Play something else

[@Supreme-Mentalman]

No 40K is the best wargame ever made.