Rant: Why I Don't Like Warhammer Anymore

[@Onionkid99]

I was painting Warmachine models not but an hour ago! I very much enjoy it as a wargame, as well as its RPG, Iron Kingdoms. The Mercenaries faction in Warmachine has steam-fantasy pirates with Big Daddies as their heavy-hitting warjacks. I think you'd like that.

[@RAK230LL]

About the costs of models, last I saw in my local gameshop it seems that the idea that the costs equaling the costs of producing the models isn't as valid anymore, the folks over there even did the math on that and found that the costs are much higher than the production as a whole would actually be worth. Seems they are apparently trying to milk every penny they can even if the production costs don't match. If so, it's a shame

[@RAK230LL]

By the way, did you get a look at the warmachine rpg? many of the folks I know say it's very concise and friendly to use, but apparently simplistic because it uses a d6 system. Seems interesting with the steampunk fantasy setting though.

[@OisínMcColgan]

I share a lot of your sentiments. I haven't played Warhammer Fantasy Roleplaying or most of the 40k RPGs but I have played Rogue Trader and I thought that RPG was pretty fun (though I agree starting characters have too little chance to succeed in their rolls)

[@WildDieWoodard]

I work for an indie bookshop and we always have a great stock of Warhammer novels in stock (both old and new). Let me know if you're looking for something in particular. Might be able to work out an arrangement with you.

[@DarrenWulfen]

The central problem with Warhammer 40K is that they price themselves out of the market with the average fan. It is essential to have a ton of disposable wealth laying around the house. Thirty five bucks for ten Space Marines? That's pretty steep.

[@OneHotWolfie]

Descent of Angels really was the weakest of all the Horus Heresy books and I also stopped for a time after reading that. Fortunately it does get better. I also agree with your comments about gw as a whole - they are only interested in how much money they can rinse out of kids through their parents and have a highly limited interest in veterans such as ourselves. (Been playing for two decades). Gw have transformed themselves from the once white knight of gaming into the vile fairytale monster...

[@HolyknightVader999]

That's why you don't have many good Warhammer video games. Because they just want you to buy their miniatures instead.

[@adammoore251]

Yes Inquisitor. This video over here.

[@greenghost2008]

Age of Sigmar models are not as identical anymore. This depends on if the models have been updated.

[@RedDiceDiaries]

Have to agree with you about the latest edition of WFRP and the system behind the Warhammer 40,000 - perhaps the new edition of Dark Heresy coming out might remedy it somewhat, personally i've just kept the background and have switched to a different system.

[@69scott]

GW is and has been for years just a money making machine. Everything is geared towards new gamers and the massive turn around they have with them. Everyone who knows me knows how I feel about them.

[@ElementalShogun]

Hey I played the starter box for Edge of Empire. I actually thought the funky dice worked well to facilitate role playing.

[@SgtOddballz]

Oh and as for gw I play it since rogue trader. I have to say I am surprised how fast they r putting out books and such in 6th...however the prices and scuplts of some...like space marine in a space. marine and a black legion book sort of make me wonder about them. I also can't afford to really buy anything with prices and rules costing so much....100 bucks or there abouts for a eldat wraithknight...yeah that goes over well with wife and such lol.

[@Trencher1375]

Welcome to the fold! There is a whole world of better and cooler games out there and its getting bigger every day.

[@michaelexman5474]

its the spiting image of my brother

[@nozzer2002]

gamesworkshop is a rip off..the models are just too expensive they need to get their house in order !

[@SgtOddballz]

The star wars rpg is pretty fun. Takes a little to get used to dice but its far more refined than wfb is in my opinion. Wfb however is not bad but being it was earlier version of new type dice system I have seen a couple issues but we r playing it and star wars...dark heresy and death watch we got tired of them.

[@JBGarrison72]

All very good thoughts; thanks for sharing Neil! :D

[@GrahamSpearing]

Gosh. End of an era! So, what's coming for Furnace?

[@hastur1234]

I still love the Warhammer universe but G.W has made some really bad decisions in the recent past. I must admit I never knew you were a Tournament player and that is where the rules do struggle but to be fair G.W have always said this is just a beer and pretzels game. And I agree with you on the R.P.G front the older ones do become frustrating so an update would be cool but I still think with a bit of work they can still be great fun. And the whole E-book pricing is insane which is a shame

[@ivantheterrible6959]

Fair points made dude but you could allways start a new army via buying someone's old army on eBay Repair it and recondition it to your likeing and add to it also I think your numbers are a bit extreme Also if your not a big painter I'd say your in the wrong hobby do annother rpg game that does not require any modelling skills but is still fun to play

[@jawbelly9174]

My beef with Warhammer games is that they all feel the same. Vermintide 1 feels and plays like 2. Total war Warhammer plays just like 2 with extra steps. Etc etc They fucking suck.

[@godofzombi]

FF is now doing a beta for dark heresy 2nd edition. let's hope it gets better, eh? Don't give up on the heresy novels, there are some amazing stories in there! Most GW is getting way overpriced. Even the army books! But worst of all was that Horus heresy army book "book one: betrayal" 70 euros! REALLY!? Who needs a leather cover? I just wanna read the background and see some of the units. Oh well.. yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me...

[@kd-pt1zy]

I tried to get into war hammer because my old friend was into it. I just couldn’t get into it. I don’t like the story of it. I find the rules can get confusing. I personal think warhammer sucks. The models of them are expensive. No thanks.

[@KuyVonBraun]

When I was a young 'un there seemed to be just two games, D&D for roleplay & Warhammer for battle games. It's a much bigger market now with many fantastic & in many cases cheaper games. Time to move on...

[@HolyknightVader999]

If I want to play Warhammer, I'd just pop in Starcraft. The best Warhammer game in existence!

[@timur5241]

*sees comments* Not to mention that Warhammer has stupid community that makes their game look like primitive cult.

[@hastur1234]

P.S thanks for the explanation :)

[@carlrabone1010]

Bad

[@TheGentlemanGamer]

Quite agree. With all of it.

[@atari67]

Warmachine is awful. Sorry. Just facts.