Ranting About Narratives Surrounding Anime Studios

[@daltonriser1125]

The one thing keeping that madhouse stamp of approval thing alive for a while was hunter x hunter 2011 3 years of consistently awesome shit

[@supersceptile8183]

That and One Punch Man because people don't understand the idea of freelance animators.

[@DonnieDen]

Madhouse was so great because of the main producer and studio head Masao Maruyama who left Madhouse 2011? Pretty interesting and explains a lot.

[@SaberStash]

Bones is definitely one of the most reliable studios out there. I miss old Madhouse.

[@Heatranoveryou]

Have you looked at their list of anime? Its not actually that great.

[@theanimerapper6351]

@@Heatranoveryou overall number they've made more good anime than any other studio

[@AragorN88]

Bones would've been the perfect studio to do the 2nd season of OPM, maybe one day.

[@Coolguy98765]

They do Mob Psycho 100, which is close enough.

[@gino14]

"J.C. Staff seal of quality" *laughs in Little Busters*

[@goldentrout4811]

People need to understand that the studio is not the most important thing. It is the people (directors, animators etc...) who make or break a show.

[@arcverson4963]

If you really think that then you don't know what "studio" means nor how anime is actually made

[@goldentrout4811]

You're right i don't know all the specifics. Please enlighten me.

[@arcverson4963]

Thanks to that Canipa Effect complete bullshit video about how studios don't matter and how Madhouse wasn't involved in making OPM S1 (lol wtf) and how it's the director that took care of everything, The obvious truth that people don't see (or pretend not to see) is that the staff changed in OPM S2 because the studio changed, without Madhouse, S1 would've not been what it was, because they are the ones who gathered the talented staff that made it what it was. Madhouse refusing to work on S2 because the production committee didn't provide them with a good contract seems the most logical theory for me because: 1) Madhouse was ranked 7th out of 8 companies in the first season's committee, which means they enjoyed next to no profit from its success. 2) Because they did the same with the Mahouka movie in the same time frame, which implies that the problem was from Madhouse side and not the committee. 3) The producers don't go to the directors and give them an anime to make, they go to studios, negotiate the deal with them and sign a contract, from there on the studio is in charge of most of the production process, including gathering the staff using their connections that they built over the years (Barring some rare cases where the producers/Original Creator request specifically someone to be involved), and creating an environment that allows them to work in good conditions (which involve hiring and contacting hundreds of people) and this is not a job a single director can pull off by himself. 4) Shingu Natsume himself said that Madhouse are the ones who contacted him to work on OPM S1. It varies from case to case, but generally speaking, Studios matter, and matter a lot at that.

[@TheMightySilverback_]

@@arcverson4963Hi!, this is all very interesting information, would you be able to do me a big solid and perhaps source some of it? I have been unable to find the production committee listings for OPM S1 (and indeed the majority of shows) or any quotes from Natsume stating that Madhouse were the one's who approached him. I do agree that, regardless, Canipa's video was laughably bad.

[@fabiopaiva1351]

Damn I'm really thinking about becoming "one of those" so I can ask a rant about Studio 4ºC it's almost like nobody knows it exists

[@Coolguy98765]

Do it

[@GodOfWar187]

Bones is doing the best work right now of all the studios imo. The last few years from them have been very consistent. Mappa has several shows that have been good - Shingeki no Bahamut, two of the three Garo's (The first and the third), Yuri on Ice, Kids on the Slope, Zombieland Saga, Ushio to Tora, and Dororo seems to be going very well right now from what I hear (I've yet to watch it).

[@oposdeo]

Bones is consistently excellent. I see bones, I watch. Madhouse is less consistent, but I generally still give all of their things a shot, they are often great. Kyo Ani is pretty, so I watch most of their shows that aren't severely not for me. Trigger is Trigger, I'm watching everything they make. As someone who doesn't like to waste time trying bad shows, I like using studio reputation to make educated guesses for quality.

[@Alienrun]

Wouldn't it be more accurate to use creators instead of studios? (Then again I'd imagine most creators stick to the same studio anyways so I guess that's whatever! lol)

[@oposdeo]

​@@Alienrun I'm not too familiar with many individual creators. Sometimes I do though, like good ol' Ikuhara. There are a lot of studios though that seem to have a very distinct style and consistent qualities, likely as a result of their tight-knit staff and shared direction. You never really know with a company like A1-pictures because they are a big company that just like, does animation work. If anything, you can expect something unremarkable.

[@jayterra2585]

I was bouta beat Digi's ass if he didn't say Bones was fairly consistent. Everything they make looks good imo and it's quite impressive. Sometimes their writing needs work though for their originals lol

[@jayterra2585]

Also you were referring to Kurozuka, knew instantly. What I didn't know was how many fucking anime Madhouse did in Fall 2008, it's kinda disturbing.

[@lightningcomet7307]

Kurozuka was another Madhouse series directed by Tetsuro Araki. Also Highschool of the Dead, but Kurozuka was the one Digi was trying to remember

[@SUNTZUAcademy]

A-1 Pictures nailed Kaguya-sama tho

[@awsomeboy360]

I wonder if One Punch Man season 2 was given to Bone how it would turn out.

[@AnimeOverdose1]

Director decided to work on boogiepop and whoevers in charge of adapting opm2 didn't want to wait for him

[@arcverson4963]

No offence dude but stop talking out of your ass.

[@arcverson4963]

Not much better than what it is with J.C Staff right now.

[@yunakovc]

Mappa disappointed me with Virgin Soul so much. Its exactly as you said. So much inconsistency between the first half being great and second half being absolute trash. Edit: in regards to writing and animation

[@wisedude1]

Perhapes with A-1 shows failing apart it has something to do with the super demanding production cycles of the studio limiting what they can do with a show and just how much pre-planing and course correction is possable. just a thought though.

[@eff-fume]

Madhouse has been in the dumbsters for a while as well with JC Staff. JC Staff now just grabs any property and adapts them these days, and it not very good.

[@arcverson4963]

Madhouse made SoraYori and NGNL movie, and they were fantastic imo

[@meatmun7747]

Toei in thumbnail, doesn't discuss Toei. On a side note, I think The Seven Deadly Sins is the only A1 pictures show that I actually like. It has some very well animated moments, for this decade at least. Plus I'm a sucker for medieval fantasy shows.

[@festa1999]

anyone know when he left?

[@Kuudere-Kun]

What's an example of a Mappa show? I don't know if I've seen any of theirs or not.

[@Talon058]

Aren't they doing Dororo this season?

[@ezdepaz4363]

Dororo, Zombieland Saga, Bahamut, Garo, Yuri on Ice, Banana Fish and Punchline from the top of my head.

[@neo8325]

Zankyou no terror/terror in resonance was really good imo

[@dragunov815]

Oh.

[@TheCreepypro]

I love that over the course of this video you have mentioned some of my favorite shows that no one talks about like No.6, Ungo, and Aria the Scarlett Ammo now how can I get you to mention Freezing?

[@HxH2011DRA]

MADhouse made hxh 2011 therefore it is the best~ Mappa is pretty good I feel but again they made ushio to tora and word on the street is if you make a favorite of mine I'll tend to come to bat for you (same with IG & Bones, I'm not an unbiased observer)

[@awsomeboy360]

1999 > 2011

[@Liam-nv5bf]

@@awsomeboy360 Two words, Chimera Ant.

[@awsomeboy360]

@@Liam-nv5bf Well, the 1999 version didn't even have the chance to adapt that arc.

[@Liam-nv5bf]

@@awsomeboy360 Yes I know, still, Chimera Ant blows 1999 out of the water, and it's not even a debate.

[@awsomeboy360]

@@Liam-nv5bf That's not the point. The arcs that the 1999 did cover, it did so better than the 2011 version.

[@awsomeboy360]

Bones had no fallen at all.

[@arcverson4963]

> Soul Eater Not >Captain Earth >UN-GO >Karakuri Kiden >Tenkai Knights >Eureka 7 AO Lmao

[@awsomeboy360]

@@arcverson4963 My Hero Academia (season 1, 2, 3), Norigami (season 1, 2), Mob Psycho 100 (season 1, 2), Bungou Stray Dogs, Space☆Dandy, Kekkai Sensen & Beyond, etc. BONES has fallen? LMFAO. We're not going to talk about the upcoming Carole & Tuesday anime series. Bones is top studio right now.

[@arcverson4963]

you said "Bones had no fallen *at all*", so I listed some of the times they were shit, proving you wrong. people miss the point pretty fast these days..

[@awsomeboy360]

@@arcverson4963 In comparison to the great stuff they've produced, the good outweighed the bad by a mile. Specifically the last five years.

[@arcverson4963]

You listed 6 good shows they made and I listed 6 bad shows they made, what do you mean the good outweighs the bad? do you want me to make a comparison between their output and Production IG and Madhouse based on MAL score?

[@gaigous1250]

It's the same with video game developers *looks at EAware*

[@LimeyLassen]

EA is such a conglomerate at this point it doesn't makes sense to call them a "studio"

[@gaigous1250]

@@LimeyLassen I like the way you think.

[@nathanbraun2067]

there's always logic to patterns. A-1 has bad producers, that's why their shows always end poorly

[@AnimeOverdose1]

Chaos theory