The only reasons I can see myself using the Vanguard over the Tactical are mobility and self-heals. If I am not going and fighting in the face of the opponent with grapnel launcher + melta rifle, I just feel like I am using a diet Tactical. I struggle to enjoy the Vanguard used as a mid-range precision gunner.
@AJ-zu7ctАй бұрын
His grapple can feel underwhelming
@Ima9ineBreak3rАй бұрын
I completely agree. Imagine, on the other hand, if it was basically as powerful as a fragmentation grenade. That would be awesome. Perhaps too strong, but honestly, I don't think that would be far off from what it should be. Maybe a little bit less AOE, but more damage on the target you actually grapnel.
@AsyrafDАй бұрын
Grapnel launcher feels so overwhelmingly weak. It only synergize with melta as it allows melta user to close in the distance. With the other 2 guns however, they promote more of a mid range engagement so theres very little incentive to grapnel.
@christopherjohnson2171Ай бұрын
I use the Instigator Carbine and balanced knife. I do pretty well but I agree, not my favorite class. Assault and Bulwark melee better and Sniper and Tactical have way better guns.
@monkeyswithshoes308Ай бұрын
They should have given Vanguard that small smg gun that sniper has, and given him perks that synergize close range with bolt weaponry. Just get rid of all those stupid “when you’re almost dead” perks that no one uses. Better for class fantasy, and would be fun to play. Vanguard should wreck with close range weapons across the board considering his class mechanic. Melta for wave clear/stagger, ammo dump bolters for dps.
@ckdeadpool5169Ай бұрын
Yeah the scope in on the gun is awesome making head shots so much better and make more since of the scope now
@Night--ShiftАй бұрын
Man I love your channel bro always great content.
@declicitous1763Ай бұрын
why does vanguard have the carbine with a scope and sniper doesnt? i dont get it
@fabianmoye7919Ай бұрын
More like why can't you just have both
@pandaking1300Ай бұрын
Sniper has the marksman bolt carbine in the bolt carbine weapon tree, it has a scope. The Occulus just got the ability to use its scope with the patch
@Bigborian92783Ай бұрын
I agree. The occulus should be on sniper and include a semi auto marksman variant and full auto like the occulus and the bolt carbine smg should just be an smg and on the vangaurd
@crazymachinima1Ай бұрын
@@Bigborian92783You literally get a semi auto marksman carbine on the sniper. After you level the bolt carbine to green tier, you'll get SMG and Marksman variants to choose from.
@Bigborian92783Ай бұрын
@crazymachinima1 i know, that's why im saying the marksman variant of the bolt carbine should be called the occulus, and the smg version should just be the bolt carbine.
@TheTulioChannelАй бұрын
started lvling occulus not so long ago, and for some reason this gun is so much fun for me
@Mtom9388Ай бұрын
Ye im warming up to occulus too. Scope gives it new possibilities although I wish it had some Infrared or enemy higlight enabled ( as its the carabine specialised in urban smokey combat, in kill team it ignores smoke nades)
@TheStevec9025 күн бұрын
Astartes blood runs in those veins
@KnightwingofbludhavenАй бұрын
genuine question, why us this a better option than the instigator I level my vanguard and relied the delta but I'm considering a second.
@Bigborian92783Ай бұрын
It's a better option against chaos because of the fully automatic and fast fire rate, it regenerates your contested health much faster than instigator. When i tested both, the instigator just didn't fire fast enough to get them into execute before they recover from grappnel launcher stun even when hitting headshots. Also, because of the short pauses in pulse fire, your contested health goes down little by little when surrounded where as occulus, you regenerate as fast as you take damage, so you lose very little if any health damage. They both have the finisher reload perk, which is amazing since you can just bounce from one execute to the next and not have to reload when you're in the thick of the fight. Also i dunno if this is intentional but i noticed when you scope in on the occulus from distance your weapon spread is so small and the recoil is almost nothing so you can actually get long range automatic headshots on chaos marines. The instigator tends to kick a bit harder but its burst fire, so you would naturally reset your targeting anyways. I just felt the occulus was more efficient in that way at range too. This helps a TON on reliquary where you can't really grapple to them when a heldrake is constantly setting the bridge on fire.
@mooncake541Ай бұрын
The king of counter-attacking. Very Fun to watch
@dr.wigglerАй бұрын
Why would a gun be more accurate when you aiming through its scope? The bullet spread shouldn’t be THAT much of a different.
@FellixNoAmatsuАй бұрын
I noticed that too, I am glad it gains that accuracy tho, I like having extra ammo.
@akiipy22222Ай бұрын
Because it's a video game.
@laser-tw8zyАй бұрын
I don’t know why you’d be complaining… I really wouldn’t want another fucking Helldivers situation with this thing.
@gravity579Ай бұрын
It’s simulating that in real life it’s easier to hold a gun on target when you can see better.
@SergeantGadrielАй бұрын
I doubt the + .33 buff will do anything
@Bigborian92783Ай бұрын
I thought so too but then i tried it and its a significant difference if you hit the head. Its a combination of the super fast fire rate of the occulus and the fact that the headshot is a multiplier rather than flat damage. It ramps up a lot of damage quickly
@jamesbrice3267Ай бұрын
Why waste bullets on a corpse?
@sturmmagnunstein1008Ай бұрын
Its like a stalker bolt rifle that has more ammo! Too bad its imo completely wasted on vanguard!
@bobisoft2k5Ай бұрын
combat knife on vanguard is quite a choice
@MorbidHunterАй бұрын
I like it way more than the chainsaw. But only if you use the balanced version with the +50% parry window perk
@Mtom9388Ай бұрын
@@MorbidHunter speed just makes it the best. Also has the best looks of all the weapons imho
@llthedivinell1705Ай бұрын
Someone doesn’t know how to fight with the knife. It’s a good melee, as long as you know how to use it.
@Bigborian92783Ай бұрын
If you know the secret to using shadow stab knife is the best melee weapon in the game 😅