Rapture 2024 - Running Out Of Time: Sept or Oct? & Calendar ?s

[@bronxink149]

I'm so over this world! In my rapture dream last month I entered the Ark with my son and the Lord told me we're leaving very soon!

[@DaveKull63]

It sure looks that way.

[@GinaEdwards-m7s]

Wow..please be this year Lord..Maranatha

[@DaveKull63]

I'll join you in that prayer.

[@C.Daldrup]

I will join you too. Longing to meet the Lord in the air and be with Him forever!!!

[@DaveKull63]

@@C.Daldrup Amen

[@gossman75]

Me and others are just a falling apart physically. We need you Lord to Rapture Us. Forgive me and others as much as we forgave things that happen to us. Don't let bad things happen to us oh Lord of Lords, and King of Kings. Amen!

[@DaveKull63]

@@gossman75 I know that feeling. Unfortunately, God's timing doesn't revolve around our physical bodies falling apart. We do however have a promise of a body that does not corrupt or fall apart. I am so looking forward to that day.

[@methylmike]

Bruh! Thanks for keeping it up, but you better be enjoying your vacation

[@DaveKull63]

Thank you. I've spent most of my time on the beach and have been riding the waves. My little paradise.

[@Treyz44]

Dave, thank you for having a good spirit when explaining all of this.

[@DaveKull63]

You're welcome. Got to have a good spirit. I'm talking about going back to our Father's house!

[@ch1766]

You are so dedicated to the Lord, Dave. Your face looks like you're getting the sun. Don't forget the sunscreen and have a fun vacay! Blessings.

[@DaveKull63]

Thank you. I saw that. It's just the lighting in the room.

[@ch1766]

@@DaveKull63 Well you didn't have to tell us. lol We thought you were building castles and romping on the beach to earn that tan. ha

[@DaveKull63]

@@ch1766🤣🙂 No sandcastles but lots of boogie boarding and hanging out of the beach and eating too much of course.

[@daringlover8689]

Thank you kindly again Dave for your teaching, and waking up more and more and hopefully you are having a great vacation

[@DaveKull63]

I really am. I appreciate you brother

[@JohnGuzikowski]

Ready to fly out of here on Rosh Hashanna , see you in the clouds

[@DaveKull63]

Looks like a cloud party coming!

[@AnimasiKanasia]

What do you think about the verse "Summer is ended, Harvest is past, and we are not saved"?

[@DaveKull63]

Jeremiah 8:20 is part of a conversation between God and the people of Judah while they are in captivity. It is not rapture related. Here is a teaching on this starting at about the 5 min mark. john1415.org/Jer-23/08-09-Jer-23.MP3

[@The-Patrol-Monkey]

Thank you for taking time on your vacation to study with us

[@DaveKull63]

You're welcome and I knew I might. That's why I brought all of my "stuff" with me. There seemed to be a little confusion in some of the comments and that means others are confused as well so it was the right thing to do. Blessings

[@brianwillis1577]

Thank you dave! always so encouraging. Your videos are like comfort food to me :)

[@DaveKull63]

Thank you Brian. I appreciate you encouraging me.

[@johnmlmpro]

Thank you Dave ~ enjoy your vacation ~ see you in the clouds real soon 🙏🙏

[@DaveKull63]

You're welcome John. I'm looking forward to it.

[@dennismcglathery1671]

thank you Dave. share your work whenever i can

[@DaveKull63]

Thank you. You will enjoy Mondays teaching as we will start walking through the timeline for prophesy with the rapture.

[@maranatha8148]

PLEASE LORD LET IT BE SOON ❤❤❤ Thanks brother. Always love listening.

[@DaveKull63]

I'm right there with you in that prayer. Blessings!

[@datatamer]

Lighting is beautiful!

[@DaveKull63]

Thank you.

[@shellywalker6013]

Great❤ thank you for the update

[@DaveKull63]

You are so welcome

[@louisethomas8617]

I agree everyone should always go to scripture from the bible for everything , An October does seem very likely , Praying 🙏 for our Lord Jesus to exept us into his kingdom 🙏

[@DecemberRapture]

OCT 2

[@brianwillis1577]

can you imagine it.....a nice cool october day, trees are full of color, a cool wind blowing....and bam Jesus appears and rescues us outta here. I sure hope its this year.

[@louisethomas8617]

@@brianwillis1577 that sounds amazing 😁, can just imagine it now 😍 🙏

[@DaveKull63]

Unlikely the moon will be seen on the second, give it a couple days.

[@DaveKull63]

Scripture trumps everything! October would be wonderful and it won't be a surprise for those that understand.

[@Ark-2nd-coming]

I really want to go home so i really hope it's this year, looking at what's happening everywhere! I can't see us here for another year! I had a dream about the Rapture in feast of trumpets.. so I really hope this comes true. Maranatha

[@DaveKull63]

I understand what your saying. Bit 15 years ago I was probably saying we cannot go another year. Bur, in the 17 years I've been watching this year is the most promising!

[@danyoung6723]

I just came across you . Thank you God bless

[@DaveKull63]

Your welcome. Dig in and let me know if you have questions.

[@danyoung6723]

I do and I don’t .. lol . Your scriptural wisdom on once saved always saved .. when My Wife and I became born again walkers , we didn’t give up our free will . If I continue to sin .. I do not expect Jesus to take me to heaven in the rapture. Your thoughts please?

[@DaveKull63]

@@danyoung6723 No one can take you from His hand but you can walk away. 2 Thessalonians 2 speaks of a falling away. If it was once saved always saved how could it be once saved always saved. Throughout scripture, writer after writer speak of repentance. Repentance starts with changing your mind but it must lead to returning to obedience to Messiah. If not one does not have a Lord. Revelation 2 & 3, the letters to the churches represent the church age. To each church Messiah explains that He knows their works and tells them what they must do. How they need to repent. I hope this is helpful. This is a deep and very important topic and I wish I had more time to go deeper with scripture but there is only so much I can do with a comment. Blessings!

[@danyoung6723]

@@DaveKull63 thanks Dave love your insight . And your theology/ scriptural wisdom. I am just amazed you responded ! That is special. God bless!!

[@DaveKull63]

@@danyoung6723 the questions are just as important as the videos. You're welcome and thank you.

[@samanthaq3422]

i had a dream on july i was flying in the sky like superman,,i spoke saying october,,the sun was shining like crazy eclipse

[@ethercruiser1537]

Seems pretty clear to me, I like how you use Scripture. When was the start of the month of Abib? Then count out 7 months and you get to the start of Tisherei and the Feast of Trumpets 🎺! THE ONLY PROBLEM I SEE IS THE NEW MOON 🌙 MUST BE SEEN BY 2 PRIESTS AT THE TEMPLE MOUNT. Atmospherics might interfere. Correct? So there might be a delay in declaring the New Moon and so we won’t know the day or hour 100%!?

[@DaveKull63]

You got it! Witnesses not priests but you are correct.

[@Amor_Fati_]

If the Rapture does not happen this year, does that mean it's a mid-trib? or Post- trib. Everything seems to line up to this year. Thank you

[@louisethomas8617]

I pray we not gotta wait til next year 😢 .

[@Amor_Fati_]

@@louisethomas8617 Same. A lot of channels are saying it's this year, but man I would be depleted if this year passes.

[@louisethomas8617]

@@Amor_Fati_ I no I realy hope it is this year , I don't think many of us would cope if we had to wait any longer , Sounds a bit selfish realy 😪 as I no many need to be saved , I am always praying for the lost to wake up an repent an exept our Lord Jesus 🙏 will keep praying everyone will be ready this year 🙏

[@Amor_Fati_]

@@louisethomas8617 Knowing this world is going to end sounds good to me, I just can't wait any longer for that day to come. I owe Yeshua a big hug when I get to Heaven. This world is gone. He's our only hope. God Bless

[@louisethomas8617]

@@Amor_Fati_ 🙏❤

[@aftonline]

I came across this fairly serious watchman channel which is more hebraic, called Blow The Shofar, and that guy is saying because God says in Isaiah 1:14, I detest your new moons, that the month starts on a full moon. He says feast of trumpets is on September 18 but interestingly enough, he says the rapture isn't at feast of trumpets, he says wait till Shemini Atzeret which is October 9 on that full moon calendar. I'm not saying he's right but certainly a different perspective with regards to God hating the new moons and appointed feasts. PS the Renewed Moon website says September is the 7th month this year, which is also interesting, although they follow the new moon not the full moon.

[@DaveKull63]

Who created the appointed times of the Lord? Messiah did. Did He create something detestable? Of course not. If you read Isaiah 1 it is obvious it is the heart of the people that the Lord took issue with. The watchman you mentioned does not understand the appointed times. He had a video recently placing the rapture at "the real" Shavuot, completely missing the date for Shavuot. Shavuot is the betrothal, when Messiah goes to prepare a place, not when He comes for His Bride. As soon as I saw that he was teaching that I knew He doesn't get the appointed times of the Lord.

[@DaveKull63]

As for someone saying the new moon for Rosh Hashanah I have to wonder if they understand the Barley being Aviv.

[@Personinspain]

I believe it's Oct., because God says to hope it's not on the Sabbath, or in the Winter.🔥🔥

[@DaveKull63]

@@Personinspain That's Matthew 24 where Messiah is talking to Isrrql about fleeing to Petra once the wee the abomination of desolation. Not the rapture. Matthew 24 15¶“Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’fn spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), 16“then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17“Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. 18“And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. 19“But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20“And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. Interesting though is that the abomination of desolation occurs 20 days before Passover. It will be in the winter.

[@daysofourlives1918]

Enjoy your vacation.. ☺

[@DaveKull63]

Thank you. I am. Currently I have my coffee and fresh donuts 🍩 sitting, overlooking the ocean, while replying to comments. It's windy a a touch cool but still, I'm at the ocean. 🙂

[@patrickflanigan951]

I know there is stuff out there but the Jewish calendar has also been manipulated with respect to years……being over 200 years off track. There was manipulation etc..can we definitively determine what year we are in?

[@DaveKull63]

Good question. Rosh Hashanah starts Jewish year 5785. The rapture is year 6000. I don't think we have 215 years left to get to the rapture. So yes, the years are off. The days and months are easy as the calendar is set each year based on the barley and scripture is clear on how the rest of the calendar falls in place. What is in scripture is different from the Hebraic calendar in use today. But we know that from crucifixion to Messiah coming back, feet on the ground, there is 2000 years. This comes from the SODs that I have done many videos on. We can count backwards. The question is, can we trust the year count from crucifixion to today? There is talk that years were added during the dark ages. No way to know for sure. Now, when I look at the world, especially the way the battle of Psalms 83 is setting up it seems like we are there.

[@johnday291]

Jesus Only Believe Jesus Only Jesus is God and He is coming back soon Thank you Jesus. Great job Dave can't wait to see Jesus and all the rest of us waiting for Jesus.

[@DaveKull63]

Cloud Party!

[@MelbaCox-x3t]

Hopefully, the rapture of the church will occur on Feast of Trumpets 2024.

[@DaveKull63]

I am also hopeful. This is the most promising FOT for the rapture that I have seen.

[@firmbeliever3847]

Why only on a feast day? We have to wait till they cry out peace & safety

[@DaveKull63]

@@firmbeliever3847 Could Messiah, our Pasover Lamb be crucified on just any day? Of course not. Just as Messiah fulfilled each of the Spring appointed times He will fulfill the fall appointed times on the day. If one was to study Rosh Hashanah it is obvious. Or just take Paul's word for it. He told us the rqpture happens at the last trumpet, that's the Tekiah Gedolah. It is blown on Rosh Hashanah. Here is a cool video about Messiah fulfilling the appointed times. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYqsiYZ5gqt-hLMfeature=shared

[@hollyrich8169]

Hey Dave! I wonder if this year is a Jubilee year?

[@DaveKull63]

No. The YOJ will be when the millennial kingdom is set up and the land goes back to the original owner. The Lord says that land is His while setting out the parameters of a YOJ. Leviticus 25 23¶‘The land shall not be sold permanently, for the land is Mine; for you are strangers and sojourners with Me.

[@hollyrich8169]

@@DaveKull63 I understand. Thanks. 🇮🇱✝️🙏

[@DaveKull63]

@@hollyrich8169 🙂

[@beerodj]

Hey Dave, love your videos. How do you imagine the rapture would be like? Would we just lose consciousness and regain it in the sky with new bodies? I know Paul says it happens “in the twinkling of an eye.”

[@DaveKull63]

Fist off a twinkling of an eye is evening twilight. That is the time of the occurrence. How do I imagine it? Not scripture. When I was a little kid I had these weird experiences. At times I would feel like I was being lifted up out of my body up into the sky then I would just sorta float back down knowing all along that my body was on the ground. I kinda see it that way. Funny thing is I haven't thought about those experiences in a really long time.

[@beerodj]

@@DaveKull63 so the rapture would happen at evening during the day?

[@DaveKull63]

@@beerodj correct, evening twilight. We also see that in Matthew 25. Matthew 25 6¶“And at midnight a cry was heard: ‘Behold, the bridegroom is coming; go out to meet him!’ Unfortunately this is a very bad translation. The Greek word means midst or middle, the time between 2 days. It should be twilight but when the KJV was translated in the 1600s midnight was the time between 2 days. Genesis 1 tells a different story. BTW, in cause your curious, it's based on the time in Jerusalem!

[@beerodj]

@@DaveKull63 the first week of October is gonna be real interesting. I’m excited yet nervous, for if it doesn’t happen, that most likely means it would happen next year. I think we all agree that it’s for sure within the next 5 years?

[@DaveKull63]

@@beerodj I see really strong evidence for this year which I've explained in video after video. If not this year then the year count from crucifixion to today malvern well be off. That would make figuring out the year interesting

[@EddieGrey-g3z]

What Gregorian date is Rosh Hashanah 2024?

[@DaveKull63]

Depends on when the new moon is spotted by 2 witness. Should be somewhere around the 3rd or fourth of October.

[@lucycancel2250]

I keep seeing two dates, oct 3 and others state oct 5 . Idk which date to ask off

[@DaveKull63]

We don't know. It will depend on when the new moon is spotted.

[@lucycancel2250]

@@DaveKull63 do you think that science has been able to correctly calculate the new moon? May I ask what would you suggest in this situation and asking for the day off from work?

[@DaveKull63]

@@lucycancel2250 How were things done thousands of years ago. Two witnesses would spot the new moon with the naked eye. Nothing changes. Mankind has waited almost 2000 years for this day. We have waited a lifetime or part of a lifetime for this day. What's a few more days one way or the other? Remember, there are no guarantees that 2024 is the year.

[@lucycancel2250]

So just call in instead of asking for the day off in advance?

[@DaveKull63]

@@lucycancel2250 I wish I could help. Maybe take the week off. 🙂

[@WhereDidtheygo-]

Leviticus 23:39 grafted in branches that are gathered?

[@DaveKull63]

Nothing grafted and no branches This is the end of the fall pilgrimage feast of ingathering, which consists of Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur and Tabernacles. It's when all the fruit is gathered into the barn, a picture of all that belong to Messiah being gathered into the millennial kingdom.

[@firmbeliever3847]

Sept 11 is my guess

[@DaveKull63]

It's Rosh Hashanah, The new moon. There is no reason to guess when one can look to scripture.

[@hollyrich8169]

@@DaveKull63hey Dave! I just found your channel and I’m watching my second video now. The Lord woke me up in 2020 but really alerted me in July of last year. Then I saw the sign “child” and thought that he was coming right then. (9/23/23) I think that date is right. BUT I’ve been watching for His return daily and just here within the last few days feel like the enemy is attacking me saying that it’s not going to happen and that I should be worried for the things that are coming for us all bad you know. That is not true and is a lie from the pit of hell. The Lord has had me resting in Him since April at home no longer working due to a toxic work environment. They hated me for my faith. I’m remaining in Him and just needed to keep my peace and eyes on Him. I think the devil is trying to keep me quiet. Will you stand in faith with me that I will be strong till the end, please? I’m ready to be with the Lord as we all are. And we just had a terrible school shooting in North Ga where I’m at. My kids school was threatened last night they have this to deal with. School Administrators say they are aware of the threats! Back to my quiet time…: God bless you and thank you. 🙏

[@DaveKull63]

@hollyrich8169 Holly, welcome. I will lift you up in a prayer, praying that you will be able to stand in all that you're going through and that He will grow you through these circumstances, James 1:2-8. I will also encourage you to draw closer to the Lord in all that you do. Lastly, the birth you're referring to is probably Revelation 12. To me that is a very misunderstood passage of scripture. Revelation 12 is the midpoint of tribulation. The rapture was Chapter 4, verse 1. Rosh Hashanah is the day on which the rapture will occur. Hopefully this year.

[@hollyrich8169]

@@DaveKull63 thanks Dave. :) Yes, I didn’t have all of my thoughts together then. I just thought that the celestial sign was a signal of the rapture at that moment. I am thankful that I’m awake to His coming! Thank you for encouraging me also. I sure will! Amen brother!

[@DaveKull63]

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[@gailward7449]

Dave, first of all, you're very astute. Is “sucks” really a professional term?? Speaking of saying things a little differently, I would approach the September/October debate like this: Yes, we need Avib barley for the first month. The issue at hand is the fact that, sometimes, there was no first-fruits offering to start the first month by. There were three times in the year when men were commanded to appear in Jerusalem with a first-fruits offering from different plants or trees. Deuteronomy 16:16 “Three times a year all your males shall appear before the Lord your God in the place which He chooses: at the Feast of Unleavened Bread, at the Feast of Weeks, and at the Feast of Tabernacles; and they shall not appear before the Lord empty-handed." Very simply, if there was no barley men couldn’t appear before the temple. This is the reason they allowed an extra lunar cycle, which these days is called intercalation. Last spring, the barley required an extra month with the end result being an October Rosh Hashanah. The barley needs, MUST, be available.

[@DaveKull63]

Correct. Everything points to Messiah, even the barley at firstfruits. Psalms 40 7Then I said, “Behold, I come; In the scroll of the book it is written of me

[@edukondalukonda7659]

The rapture will be in September 2024

[@DaveKull63]

Incorrect. Just not going to happen. It can only occur on Rosh Hashanah.

[@Deepak-tl9su]

Sir, there are many kinds of last trumpets. During ancient times, especially in Corinth, at the start of a sports event and at the end of the event, a trumpet was blown. That is also a last trumpet. Last of the 7 trumpet judgements also has a last trumpet, Rosh hashana has a last trumpet. God informs his prophets what is going to happen, but he may not tell the exact timing. God told that Israel will become a nation again in the last days, but he did not tell the year or day. You have told that 'No man knows the day nor hour' represents Rosh Hashana, but Jesus did not stop there. He even told that the angels too don't know the day. So this cannot be referring to Rosh Hashana. The rapture can happen anytime.

[@DaveKull63]

You lost me when you tried for correlate something biblical to a sporting event in pagan Corinth. You demonstrate a lack of understanding for the appointments that the Lord placed on His Calendar. Just as He could not be crucified on just any day the rapture can not happen on just any day. If Paul were alive today he would need to send you a letter. In written about the rapture Paul stops and says this. 1 Thessalonians 5 1¶But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. These are the appointed times of the Lord. His audience understood them and in the text that follows they are the "you". Unfortunately, so many today , like yourself, do not understand the appointed times of the Lord. That group is the "they" in the balance of chapter 5.

[@Deepak-tl9su]

@@DaveKull63It is written, "You are all children of the light and children of the day". Paul meant that the Church will not be surprised by "that DAY" because the church is of light and day....This means that when the day comes, the church will not be surprised because they already in the light. "But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief" "We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep"

[@DaveKull63]

@@Deepak-tl9su Context! 1 Thessalonians 5 1¶But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. 2For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. 3For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape. The times and seasons are the appointed times in Leviticus 23. The "you" are those that understand them. If a person understood Rosh Hashanah they would know the the Tekiah Gedolah, is the awakening blast (awakes the dead) and has long been known as the last trumpet. It occurs on Rosh Hashanah. It seems apparent that you do not understand the appointed times of the Lord outlined in Leviticus 23, according to Paul you are a "they". You cannot disregard Verse 1.

[@Deepak-tl9su]

@@DaveKull63 The use of the words 'times and seasons' instead of using 'appointed times' shows that Paul generalised it to all the series of prophetic events. When Israel is formed, we have entered the endtimes ( a season) , when they say peace and safety, it is a season

[@DaveKull63]

@@Deepak-tl9suNo, the phrase appointed times does not appear in the NT. They did not go away. These are the appointed times. As for season, refer to Ecclesiastes 3:1. The peace and safety reference refers to Jeremiah 30. You will never understand that which you reuse to see.

[@marionhallee9710]

Ugggggg - You do the same thing every time ---- A bunch of word salad with NO ANSWER.....after going through your salad you never told us when The Feast of Trumpets is per your calendar review, for the year 2024

[@DaveKull63]

It's what Leviticus 23 says. The 1st day of the 7th month, Tisheri 1. Tisheri starts when 2 witnesses see the new moon. We are looking at October 3rd to the 5th. Something in that ballpark. It's impossible to give an exact date. If it's cloudy and the new moon is not seen, it doesn't start.

[@brotherjohnwaynecausey]

Roshanna will be on Monday September 2nd

[@louisethomas8617]

In Jewish calender its begining of September but this year its on October 2nd /3rd , an I think Gregorian one its begining of October , It says it can be September or October depending on different calenders. Think thas right anyway 😊😊 Dave will explain he knows more than me 😂

[@brotherjohnwaynecausey]

@@louisethomas8617 it's leap year it happens every 4 years

[@DaveKull63]

​@@brotherjohnwaynecauseyWring calendar. Your talking about the leap year on the Gregorian calendar, a calendar that is irrelevant biblically.

[@DaveKull63]

Not possible. The barley was not abib. This was the purpose of this video. The barley had to be almost ready to start the first month, Nissan. Then we count to Nissan, the seventh month.

[@brotherjohnwaynecausey]

@@DaveKull63 ok l get it

[@nothingelsetolose7661]

Personally, Dave, I love the way that you teach. It's short, concise. and right to the point. I do have a question and it's pertaining to the pre Tribulation Rapture. I was watching a video and some. posted a response to the video as following:,,, notice that in John 14:3, the part that pre trib believers gloss right over is that Jesus specifically says "I will come again"... nowhere does it say you will come up to heaven where I am. He specifically refers to His return to earth to receive His Bride (in the air) because earth is where His Kingdom (heaven) will be established. This is further supported by the term 'eis apantesis' (to meet) used in 1 Thess 4:17, which means to come out to greet and then immediately usher back in. Also the term parousia (1 Thess 2:19 and 1 Thess 4:15) means to come and stay... not come down to the air to whisk back up to heaven for a dinner party while the whole world burns. Christ is not sitting at a dinner table with His Bride, while simultaneously destroying the wicked on earth - which is an untenable interpretation. And here is my response.:,,, I went to Bible hub and looked up all those verses you gave them. and looked them up in the. Greek interlinear. and the strong's concordance. and I couldn't find anything about Meeting and then ushering back. Like you suggested in first Thessalonians 4: 17. And again. I looked up your other verses about. PAROUSIA, And nowhere does that suggest. Come and stay. It does suggest a visit. So I don't know where you're getting these references from. but from Bible hub. You're a Greek interpretation is wrong.

[@DaveKull63]

If you say so. When Messiah references the wedding feast, He expects us to understand it, tie it to His appointed times and the harvests. If one undersod these things they would know that the wedding supper is after the bride is in the wedding chamber for 7days (7 years of tribulation). They would also know the wedding supper of Messiah has been associated with Tabernacles, millennial kingdom, well before Messiah come to the earth to be the Passover Lamb.

[@nothingelsetolose7661]

@@DaveKull63 Agreed, Everything that he posted about that video. Tied to the Greek meaning. Seemingly to me was false. And on the face of it. The pre wrath and Post Tribulation. to me, never seemed to follow. any logical sense of order. I'll post the video. in case you ever have time to look at it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3W7lnSpbZJ1nKM In which I think he lays out a pretty good argument for the pre trib

[@DaveKull63]

Something else we need to consider is that Messiah was speaking Hebrew not greek. Some belive that everyone in that day was running around speaking Greek, not so. In Acts 21 there is a story about a mob that was incited against Paul and the soldiers took Paul away but in doing so asked this. Acts 21:37 NKJV - Then as Paul was about to be led into the barracks, he said to the commander, “May I speak to you?” He replied, “Can you speak Greek? Interesting. The soldiers did not know whether or not Paul spoke Greek. To me this speaks volumes. I am convinced that much of the New Testament was written in Hebrew, not Greek. I often wonder how much understanding was lost.

[@DaveKull63]

FYI - I generally do not bother discussing the timing of the rapture, in relation to tribulation. Generally it is confrontational with no fruit to be found.