Rare access to British Army's monster new battlefield vehicle

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@hk_brit_fisher
@hk_brit_fisher 10 ай бұрын
It can actually move, HUGE achievement
@1chish
@1chish 10 ай бұрын
🤦‍♂🤦‍♂
@IntrinsicSV
@IntrinsicSV 10 ай бұрын
It’s not the moving it was the stopping that was the initial issue.
@keptinjack
@keptinjack 10 ай бұрын
Give it an hour or two 😅
@chip1gray
@chip1gray 10 ай бұрын
This isn't Russia we do make stuff we just over pay for it haha
@thebrowns5337
@thebrowns5337 10 ай бұрын
Are we still paying for all the injuries after folk were shaken non stop?
@Steve-bo6ht
@Steve-bo6ht 10 ай бұрын
I was tank Driver / Gunner 16/5th Queens Royal Lancers and was fortunate to drive all the CVRT's variants and Warrior FV510's can say hand on heart the General Dynamics Ajax looks and sounds the absolute business and I wish all the crews the very best that developed and persevered to iron out all the problems.
@gusgone4527
@gusgone4527 10 ай бұрын
I hope you are correct Bro. The specifications for the Ajax are mighty impressive. Just what the troops needed.
@keptinjack
@keptinjack 10 ай бұрын
Your Brown Star kissing badge is in the post 🤣
@wor53lg50
@wor53lg50 10 ай бұрын
Oh damn, i forgot our new indoctrinated brainwashed ideology means its vorboden to pay Brits any compliments, i need to re-read the first chapter of marxist nialism for dummies again...
@Foxtrottangoabc
@Foxtrottangoabc 10 ай бұрын
Yep looks good to me , has to be much better than the vehicles you mention in every way , especially troop protection
@strippins
@strippins 10 ай бұрын
What’s the gun actually meant to shoot ?
@colingoldthorpe5918
@colingoldthorpe5918 10 ай бұрын
For all those guys that are nagging on about it, we all did the same when Warrior was coming out. But man when that thing showed up it was a game changer. There are many people alive today that would not be if it wasn't for the Warrior platform, me included. The only thing we wore out in Gornji Vakuf Bosnia was track pads and fuel. Those vehicles were a beast, every day miles upon miles, up and down the countryside they were amazing vehicles. I am sure these will be too, once the kinks are worked out....
@bacburrito4225
@bacburrito4225 10 ай бұрын
Kinks, it’s become a joke
@peterwait641
@peterwait641 10 ай бұрын
Fuel pumps became less reliable with age and multiple reconditioning of old units .
@bzipoli
@bzipoli 10 ай бұрын
dont worry about it, brits always joke about stuff cmon
@scalewarmachines
@scalewarmachines 10 ай бұрын
Always had a soft spot for Warrior. It served well.
@Ukraineaissance2014
@Ukraineaissance2014 10 ай бұрын
Same thing happened with the Bradleys as well.
@peterfeeney721
@peterfeeney721 10 ай бұрын
Driving at any speed across the Plain is VERY far from marginal terrain.
@kroolis77
@kroolis77 10 ай бұрын
Like the red square tarmac which is known to have stopped the most modern russian „wunderwaffe”, t14 atrapa😂😂
@gusgone4527
@gusgone4527 10 ай бұрын
It has a mountain to climb if it is to be accepted by the troops. The damage to it's reputation could be irreparable. I sincerely hope it climbs that mountain and goes from strength to strength.
@mwnciboo
@mwnciboo 10 ай бұрын
It'll be like the L85 Rifle - It'll improve over 25 years but everyone will still think it is a *Shitbox*
@gusgone4527
@gusgone4527 10 ай бұрын
@@mwnciboo Agreed, the damage has already been done. I converted from SLR and SMG to Rifle 5.56 as it was known, in November 1990. Took the Skill at Arms Instructor course at SASC Browning Barracks, Aldershot. While on that course I actually broke an SA80 when the firing pin snapped. Also broke the forward handgrip on an LSW version practicing "rifle strengthening exercises." If only those exercises were designed to strength the actual weapon as the name would suggest. Rather than the arms of the rifleman and accelerate his muscle memory with the rifle.
@thecurlew7403
@thecurlew7403 9 ай бұрын
​@@gusgone4527Every time I look at sa 80 it makes me sick its ugly like made from a kit.😊
@616CC
@616CC 8 ай бұрын
@@thecurlew7403it is a great short weapon system If you want something nice to look at check your wife
@dazzzdelux
@dazzzdelux 10 ай бұрын
Its a low bar when one of the highlights is that 4 vehicles didn't break after a few days use
@VanderlyndenJengold
@VanderlyndenJengold 10 ай бұрын
It's almost as thouygh a defence firm saw a never-ending supply of money when the MOD came calling...
@1chish
@1chish 10 ай бұрын
OK lets re-phrase it for your 2 brain cells. It has maintained a 100% reliability rate.
@1chish
@1chish 10 ай бұрын
@@VanderlyndenJengold Sorry mate this is the UK not the USA. This is a fixed price contract so any failures have been at the cost of General Dynamics. Yes a Yank firm in the UK being held to contract. You people should try it.
@impguardwarhamer
@impguardwarhamer 10 ай бұрын
nah man this is military vehicles we're talking about, 2 weeks with no problems whatsoever *is* very good
@warhead_beast7661
@warhead_beast7661 10 ай бұрын
I mean most of the new IFVs had major problems. Just look at Puma that was withdrawn from VJTF at the start of the year after most broke down during an exercise
@CaptMelonfish
@CaptMelonfish 10 ай бұрын
Honestly looks like a fantastic upgrade, kind of miffed it's missing an ATGM system though.
@InvictusMartin
@InvictusMartin 10 ай бұрын
@@JimCarner Javelins are hand held missiles, I'm assuming they just mean each vehicle has one on board and a crew member can get out and fire it when needed.
@InvictusMartin
@InvictusMartin 10 ай бұрын
@@JimCarner So it can be mounted but its relatively new tech, the CROWS-J variant of the missile started development in 2016, and The U.S. Army completed CROWS-J live fire testing in June 2021. It is just a modified version of the handheld strapped to the side of the turret but if it works, it works. The Ajax contract was won by GD in 2010, and the fist vehicle were meant to be delivered in 2017, the fist pre-production vehicle was built as early as 2014, so the vehicle defiantly wasn't intended/designed to mount a javelin.
@neilba1
@neilba1 7 ай бұрын
Agree....very odd. Like a slightly worse Bradley.
@indiefjant
@indiefjant 10 ай бұрын
Or, they could’ve just bought a bunch of CV90’s instead. More mobile, more modular, proven platform, from a stable long term partner country, etc etc.
@bollewillem1
@bollewillem1 10 ай бұрын
00:30 Yes, who does not want to drive around in a giant tank. But the thing you are sitting on is not a tank.
@synchc
@synchc 10 ай бұрын
I think that's a bit like saying who wants to fly an aircraft if the aircraft you're flying isn't a jet fighter/bomber. I wouldn't even assume it's any more dangerous to crew one of these than it is to crew tanks. But yes, they shouldn't have called it a tank, it isn't and that's not its job.
@Wick9876
@Wick9876 10 ай бұрын
It's not an MBT certainly but it is a tracked and armored vehicle intended for direct fire. That's a tank, unless you feel the APC role sufficiently overshadows the direct fire role.
@synchc
@synchc 10 ай бұрын
​@@Wick9876 True, you could call it a light tank, at a stretch. It's a reconnaissance armoured fighting vehicle, though. I seriously doubt you'd ever hear a BA serviceman call it a light tank in a professional capacity. It would be about as accurate as calling a QE class carrier a 'boat'.
@Krytern
@Krytern 10 ай бұрын
It is a tank, what are you talking about?
@bollewillem1
@bollewillem1 10 ай бұрын
@@Krytern A tank is a heavily armoured vehicle which serves as a primary frontline weapon that can encage other tanks and well protected targets like bunkers. An armoured fighting vehicle has less armour, lighter weapons which can be elevated more than the main gun of a tank. So an AFV can encage aerial targets and is more efficient in urban terrain. AFV’s are smaller than tanks and often can carry troops in the back. Usualy AFV’s don’t loiter around in the frontline when contact is made with the enemy. Tanks will rush forward and strike the enemy.
@piers995
@piers995 10 ай бұрын
Are the soldiers allowed to tell official journalists that they are being deafened and their brains turned to mush? How have they cured the ride experience?
@mrrolandlawrence
@mrrolandlawrence 2 ай бұрын
for a start not having any jurnos ride in the thing :)
@wingsandsims
@wingsandsims 10 ай бұрын
Monster? It looks like a Scimitar and Bradley had a child.
@backnorth
@backnorth 10 ай бұрын
Superb. Now the issues it had are well behind it Ajax will be a great piece of kit.
@peterfeeney721
@peterfeeney721 10 ай бұрын
It got slimmer, shorter and sorted out the platform audio signature! Hurrah! NOT. Still not able to negotiate the Lane to my house. So much for being required to use marginal terrain to complete its Recce mission!
@peterwait641
@peterwait641 10 ай бұрын
Think they will get used to 117 db 🤣
@peterfeeney721
@peterfeeney721 10 ай бұрын
@JimCarner Quite, Jim. The requirement contained that Mobility requirement, that the vehicle would be able to go where the going was such that no one would expect it to go, confering concealment on it. The ability to 'schnergel'. And at 40t as compared to CVR which it replaces, I cannot see how it can possibly be seen as capable of 'access (-ing) marginal terrain'
@peterwait641
@peterwait641 10 ай бұрын
@@peterfeeney721 They could fly drones from it if bridges not suitable for weight !
@peterfeeney721
@peterfeeney721 10 ай бұрын
@peterwait641 The essence of a good Recce vehicle in the British mode is Go ANYWHERE, quietly, sit and listen and watch. Report encoded, in bursts. For all the efforts of BAE, CVR has all the elements or could be provided with them without breaking the 10000kg limit (to enable underslinging). But they are pushing WIESEL 2; or its successor, so they only want to hear that new is better, even if it weighs and manoeuvres like the asthmatic fat lad that is AJAX!
@toucan221
@toucan221 10 ай бұрын
Excellent, just love the sound of the engine, sounds really sporty.
@JasonBrown-dd7dj
@JasonBrown-dd7dj 10 ай бұрын
Sounds like a 1lt ford focus
@graveperil2169
@graveperil2169 2 ай бұрын
its a sneaky scout after they are deaf they will never hear it
@yumyunrangLOAL
@yumyunrangLOAL 10 ай бұрын
The monster that vibrated its crew to death, aw hell yeah!
@richtbiscuit32
@richtbiscuit32 10 ай бұрын
I can’t believe how effective it is, one video and I’ve already got tinnitus and a massive overdraft 😉
@billballbuster7186
@billballbuster7186 10 ай бұрын
Pleased to see the Ajax is now on track and getting a thumbs up from the crews. It is a huge leap from the old but well loved Scimitar, to an advanced fully digital A-Star reconnaissance system. It is being tested at full battle weight of 38 tons, but some armour can be removed for normal operation.
@airhabairhab
@airhabairhab 10 ай бұрын
Dude this is a Government PR channel. You won’t get any genuine opinions here.
@billballbuster7186
@billballbuster7186 10 ай бұрын
@@airhabairhabYet they reported the issues with Ajax over two yeas ago. Just about every military in the world has an info channel of website. The independent press is way down the list of priorities.
@airhabairhab
@airhabairhab 10 ай бұрын
@@billballbuster7186Completely agree, any kind of independent journalism has long since disappeared from these shores.
@billballbuster7186
@billballbuster7186 10 ай бұрын
@@airhabairhabWell, my interest in Military vehicles goes back over 50 years. I can remember most of the scandals in the press. Very few new vehicles were free of complaints, which is why today they are more cautious. You don't really know how good or bad a vehicle is until its served a few years. The worst press I remember was for Challenger 1, for 5-6 years nobody had a good word for it until the 1991 Gulf War. It out performed Abrams and became a super-star over night..
@billballbuster7186
@billballbuster7186 10 ай бұрын
Ok so you tell me what the Russians have got that was not around in the Gulf Wars? But whatever it is it don't seem to be working.
@MarkFarrington-hb2ne
@MarkFarrington-hb2ne 10 ай бұрын
Talks to one crew, "I'm impressed by what the crews think". It's an updated Matilda mk2
@Turbogaggers123
@Turbogaggers123 10 ай бұрын
Cv90 ❤
@scrambler69-xk3kv
@scrambler69-xk3kv 16 күн бұрын
Looks like a real beast. Way to go Brits looks like a winner for sure. From the USA.
@danielkrcmar5395
@danielkrcmar5395 10 ай бұрын
Poland and Israel can afford over 1,000 MBTs. Our budget is gar higher so why can we barely scrape enough together for 150 conversions of existing stock?
@MonotoneCreeper
@MonotoneCreeper 10 ай бұрын
Poland and Israel don't have two aircraft carriers or nuclear submarines
@danielkrcmar5395
@danielkrcmar5395 10 ай бұрын
@cjjk9142 Do you realise how much we already borrow? They've plenty of action, they've signed multiple multi-billion contracts and have taken their first deliveries.
@danielkrcmar5395
@danielkrcmar5395 10 ай бұрын
@cjjk9142 I'd rather 1,500 tanks than a navy we can't afford to buy missiles for and an Air Force the government admit would be wiped out in a week if we went into a real war against a peer like Russia.
@mrrolandlawrence
@mrrolandlawrence 2 ай бұрын
@cjjk9142 isreal does actually have nuclear launch capable subs. All part of sampson.
@esmenhamaire6398
@esmenhamaire6398 10 ай бұрын
Given that early versions were built with sides that weren't even parallel to each other, were inconsistent in height, and had serious issues with noise and vibration injuring its crews, I remain skeptical about General Dynamics' ability to deliver a good quality useful vehicle that will neither injure its occupants in normal use ,nor have constant maintenance issues. I would be utterly delighted to have my expectations proven wrong, as I want our troops to have the best kit possible and given the history of this project, IMO GD should pay for any budget overruns due to defects in what gets delivered to our troops henceforth - and pay compensation to crew that are injured by noise/vibration issues.
@Jonty290
@Jonty290 10 ай бұрын
The noise and vibration issues are fixed? Thought they were a big problem in the troop carrier version.
@rydekk-4644
@rydekk-4644 10 ай бұрын
3 questions unanswered in this video; How resilient is it against mines? How resilient is it against top attacks/Kamikaze drones ? When can they go to Ukraine?
@horsebattery9243
@horsebattery9243 10 ай бұрын
So there are only 4 of them, they're not operationally ready? And a lot of clatter and noise for a vehicle that's not exactly being pushed hard there. I wonder what the operational usefulness of the hull mounted TV cameras will be? Between mud, dust, gun shockwaves, vibration and camo netting how much will anyone be able to see?
@SimDeck
@SimDeck 10 ай бұрын
You know nothing about armoured vehicles. Get back to bake off or whatever it is you do with your dull life cupcake.
@IntrinsicSV
@IntrinsicSV 10 ай бұрын
It’s massive for a recce vehicle!
@gibbsm
@gibbsm 10 ай бұрын
Looks like an IFV to me.
@Ukraineaissance2014
@Ukraineaissance2014 10 ай бұрын
Ita not a recce vehicle.
@jayspik6498
@jayspik6498 10 ай бұрын
You don’t use land vehicles for reconnaissance anymore, you get killed.. Drones do that now..
@graveperil2169
@graveperil2169 2 ай бұрын
"British Army's monster new battlefield vehicle" not how i expected the new scout vehicle to be described
@catlee8064
@catlee8064 10 ай бұрын
CV90 would of been cheaper, on time and its battle tested..none of the problems this has.
@BoostedMike2
@BoostedMike2 10 ай бұрын
and with that theory tech would not advance
@catlee8064
@catlee8064 10 ай бұрын
@@BoostedMike2 tech would not advance? The CV90 has been upgraded many times to keep pace with todays tech....
@bren2385
@bren2385 10 ай бұрын
​@@catlee8064 SO WOULD YOU SAY THE CV90 HAS ADVANCED OR THE TECH HAS MORE SUPERIORITY THAN CV90 🤔🤔🤔
@catlee8064
@catlee8064 10 ай бұрын
@@bren2385 I would say the CV90 has advanced and the tech has also advanced,
@bren2385
@bren2385 10 ай бұрын
​@@catlee8064 AND USUALLY THE NEXT SERIES WOULD BE A COMBINATION OF UPGRADES MADE THAT HOW PROGRESSION WORKS OTHERWISE EVERYONE WOULD STILL BE USING WW2 TANKS 🙃🙃🙃
@qasimmir7117
@qasimmir7117 10 ай бұрын
Ajax is like Pentagon Wars only true.
@Subcomandante73
@Subcomandante73 10 ай бұрын
Just imagine what we could have purchased for half the money right off the shelf and working from day 1. Oh well.
@DavidSternburgYt
@DavidSternburgYt 10 ай бұрын
​@@Subcomandante73buying off the shelf sacrifices soverignty
@fludblud
@fludblud 10 ай бұрын
The one silver lining for bloated military programmes like the Bradley or F-35 is that the end product usually ends up having a shelf life exceeding half a century.
@NathUnknown
@NathUnknown 10 ай бұрын
@@Subcomandante73 so what, we now have our own independent platform that we know the ins and outs of, with mechanics who are fully familiar with the systems as they've built them from the ground up, much better than buying from elsewhere
@Jake-dh9qk
@Jake-dh9qk 10 ай бұрын
British has yet again made the most aesthetically unappealing IFV ever
@chieftainvanguardtroop4564
@chieftainvanguardtroop4564 10 ай бұрын
Huh
@linus2982
@linus2982 7 ай бұрын
They didnt make it its based on the Austrian-Spanish ascod
@dannyblackwell2426
@dannyblackwell2426 10 ай бұрын
about time, so happy all the issues have been fixed and now it can join the British army.
@peterfeeney721
@peterfeeney721 10 ай бұрын
Sarcasm?
@dannyblackwell2426
@dannyblackwell2426 10 ай бұрын
@@peterfeeney721 no. Not at all
@peterfeeney721
@peterfeeney721 10 ай бұрын
@dannyblackwell2426 Fully agree with you, mate. It's a 40 tonne of raw horse mess
@peterwait641
@peterwait641 10 ай бұрын
Not solved barrel wear issue 750 rd's reported, caused by blow by before cased round seals in barrel !
@dannyblackwell2426
@dannyblackwell2426 10 ай бұрын
@@peterwait641 barrel issue ? I thought it was just the vibration / noise and speed issue. ok thanks for letting me know about the barrel issue :)
@godalmighty83
@godalmighty83 9 ай бұрын
The pockets that have been lined by this thing must be shocking. The troops that have to put up with it have my sympathies.
@l.b.3416
@l.b.3416 10 ай бұрын
Buy the tracked-boxer, it looks/ is sized very similarly and can excange modules with the normal boxer. Its still in development too but its a private project so expect it to go ahead fast.
@robinterry9387
@robinterry9387 6 ай бұрын
Go ahead fast? Its 7 years behind schedule.
@zhufortheimpaler4041
@zhufortheimpaler4041 6 ай бұрын
@@robinterry9387 regular Boxer is better protected than Warrior. With a RTC30 turret (the remote turret of Puma) it can fit a 7 man dismount, can withstand more punishment than Warrior can, s more mobile and better armed and has better sensors. just buy the RTC30 module and be happy.
@petergough2635
@petergough2635 10 ай бұрын
Get some Soucy rubber tracks on that to stop the track clatter.
@PerfidiousAlbion1815
@PerfidiousAlbion1815 10 ай бұрын
We could have built CV90 under licence, manufacturing in this country and gotten jobs and a good bit of kit. Time will tell…
@truffs1010
@truffs1010 10 ай бұрын
Ajax is being built in Oakdale and Merthyr Tydfil and supports 4,000 jobs in the UK.......
@Foxtrottangoabc
@Foxtrottangoabc 10 ай бұрын
Much of it is built assembled in uk factories. Im not sure there would have been much difference with be cv90 . Yes the Spanish manufacture the Hull. If uk wales can win that part of contract then we are sorted mostly
@jamesmccann531
@jamesmccann531 10 ай бұрын
@@truffs1010 Do you know what building under licence means?
@paxundpeace9970
@paxundpeace9970 10 ай бұрын
​@@truffs1010it put millions of taxpayer money down the drain.
@Twirlyhead
@Twirlyhead 10 ай бұрын
"gotten" - you sure you are British ?
@honestmcgyver
@honestmcgyver 10 ай бұрын
You can imagine the team briefing - “whatever you do don’t say there’s anything wrong. Yes we could have gotten something proven but like the SA80 rifle we’re going to plough on no matter what the cost or how long it takes and then years later we realise w eshould have bought something like the M4 rifle or LAV 6 MIV. God bless British procurement
@notmenotme614
@notmenotme614 10 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same, where the Soldiers in this video allowed to tell the truth and their real opinion, with the trouble causers kept away from the cameras? Is the biggest priority of the British Armed Forces to make industry lots of money? I wonder who’s really in charge, high ranking military officers or industry directors and shareholders?
@tonkerdog1
@tonkerdog1 10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately 18 months of war in Ukraine, shows that 40 tons of hunking metal can be beaten al by a childs drone.
@thephoenix8722
@thephoenix8722 10 ай бұрын
If you watched wester APC keep the troops alive after those hits while Russian built ones dont have survivors.
@VanderlyndenJengold
@VanderlyndenJengold 10 ай бұрын
Only if you have an undergunned 20th army. A more modern army with piles of air superiority may fare better.
@drex8925
@drex8925 10 ай бұрын
True but you still need to get troops through artillery fire
@XxASBURYxX
@XxASBURYxX 10 ай бұрын
@@VanderlyndenJengold I'd say the Israeli army has air supercity and a modern army, and seeing countless amount of armour being EASILY taken out, but a $500 drone + explosives, @tonkerdog1 is right here! well at least the crew survives in these,
@XxASBURYxX
@XxASBURYxX 10 ай бұрын
@@thephoenix8722 Very true, but if you also watch, the Russians use Lancets drones to disable the armour ($40,000, then use drone units to easily take out the troops evacuating, costs less than $100k to disable modern armour and their troops :( )
@rwd76
@rwd76 10 ай бұрын
I have heard (pun intended) of guys getting permanent hearing damage and getting compensation after trailing them.
@markburton5318
@markburton5318 10 ай бұрын
Needs active protection system to protect against drones and ATGMs but this is not an option.
@adamedwards1937
@adamedwards1937 10 ай бұрын
Have to say I first read that as "rare success".....
@RichCow-xe1bz
@RichCow-xe1bz Ай бұрын
I really hope this is a great platform for our guys and girls. I just hope it’s more comfortable than the old chieftain I learnt my trade in.
@Gareth04100
@Gareth04100 10 ай бұрын
Not one comment on here about the Cannon. That installation is what has completely high jacked the entire platform. What a total lemon.... 🍋.
@davequinn2369
@davequinn2369 10 ай бұрын
All the best. Good stuff.
@philc4661
@philc4661 10 ай бұрын
6 years late and £10m a pop... They better be damned good!
@mrrolandlawrence
@mrrolandlawrence 2 ай бұрын
wow thats £3m more than an Abraham's mbt!
@tomandrews1615
@tomandrews1615 10 ай бұрын
Does it have a number plate so it can get a fine in ulez zones?
@andrewholdaway813
@andrewholdaway813 10 ай бұрын
Do you get a brain?
@Husker5454
@Husker5454 10 ай бұрын
Big question . How easy will it be to intergrate ATGM platforms like spike , brimstone etc . Aswell as anti drone countermeasures , drone launch platforms and more . I hope this isnt all we are getting because the 40mm RDEN was already pretty useless and if we see an increase of platforms like terminator where tank chassis are paired with remote turrets instead of an IFV body this litterally wont be able to do anything . Im very glad we are getting somewhere with this now as warrior is well overdue but we need some gen on AT capability .
@zytoses9223
@zytoses9223 10 ай бұрын
tbh if they can produce six varients of the vehicle each having a specialised purpose they can probably slap an ATGM on it as well without much hassle.
@gregs7562
@gregs7562 10 ай бұрын
There's a potential Brimstone equiped overwatch version and a 105mm direct fire option. Athena troop carrier I guess will have drone teams. Would be handy if the individual vehicles could have a Brimstone or LMM missile option on the turret though. The Russian Terminator has been a complete disaster in Ukraine btw.
@grahambuckerfield4640
@grahambuckerfield4640 10 ай бұрын
I strongly suspect that Brimstone will be integrated, as well as on Boxer, it was possible to quickly adapt the missile for ground launch from initially at least, soft skin vehicles for Ukraine last year. So in an armored and digitized AFV like Ajax it’s likely bring looked at.
@Oxley016
@Oxley016 10 ай бұрын
Boxer is getting a Brimstone variant so it is more than likely they will start equipping Ajax with it too @@grahambuckerfield4640
@ashleygoggs5679
@ashleygoggs5679 10 ай бұрын
@@gregs7562 Does russia have any terminators left? ive seen countless videos of them being destroyed, i also hear the design of the turret is terrible and the cannons arnt well stabalised making them immensly innacurate. Probably only useful for cover fire and indirect lead showers.
@umwhatthistime
@umwhatthistime 6 ай бұрын
As usual video of a tank going through a puddle. Impressive !!
@rich_rich90
@rich_rich90 10 ай бұрын
Overpriced, late, disliked & already obsolete. Sounds about right for UK MoD procurement!
@rogerthomson9461
@rogerthomson9461 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like they sorted out the noise and vibration problems.
@vincnetjones3037
@vincnetjones3037 10 ай бұрын
Please let me know if the Ajax has really sorted out all of it's teething issues as we need this vehicle to be the business for the next 20 years... No propaganda just useful facts.
@Foxtrottangoabc
@Foxtrottangoabc 2 ай бұрын
Alan your the gunner on the ajax .. sorry didnt hear u say again !
@George-df4uc
@George-df4uc 10 ай бұрын
0:31 Did he just call it a Tank? Call yourself an Armoured Corps soldier and he still cannot tell the difference between a tank and AFV.
@naimaliahmed302
@naimaliahmed302 10 ай бұрын
Exactly!!! But some people call it Light Tank but I prefer to called it AFV/IFV
@peterwait641
@peterwait641 10 ай бұрын
It becomes a tank if used in an offensive role and heavily armored , many tanks between wars had guns of 20 mm to 37 mm . It would just need extra armor kit , T72 weighs in at 41 tons -Ajax 38 42 tons !
@DH.2016
@DH.2016 10 ай бұрын
I used to think as you do but now recognise that 'tanks' come in all shapes and sizes. For example, having watched many people trying to define a 'tank,' very quickly their definitions excluded the very first tanks from WW1 right up to WW2. Basically, they were describing a modern Main Battle Tank (must have "long gun," "revolving turret," etc., but WW1 British heavy tanks didn't have revolving turrets - they had sponsons with some not even having short, quick firing main guns and only machine guns). It's not easy to define what a tank is but looking back at the elements that defined a tank through history from WW1 to the present day, I would attempt to describe a 'tank' as a tracked, armoured vehicle armed with variable calibre weapons (e.g., main gun and/or machine guns) designed mainly for direct fire (i.e., line of sight and so excludes SPGs like the M109 designed mainly for indirect fire) and manned by a crew fully enclosed and under cover within the vehicle (so excludes, say, the M10 Tank Destroyer with its open roof). "But an IFV can carry foot soldiers inside," some might say. Well, the Merkava MBT also has that capability - plus, because it had the space, it is known that the likes of the WW1 British Mark IV also sheltered foot troops on occasion. Given the history of tanks, you could therefore argue that MBTs and AFVs/IFVs are all tanks - just simply different types of tanks.
@peterwait641
@peterwait641 10 ай бұрын
@@DH.2016 Tank was just the code name to stop the Germans finding out what was going to come over the trenches. Therefore any four sided vessel is a tank ! Seems it excites a lot of people who are up there ar*e !
@George-df4uc
@George-df4uc 10 ай бұрын
I've read over what you've put, however in the sense of Ajax, and what the vehicle is used for, it's main roles are either armoured reconnaissance, or repair variants. You would never think to use this vehicle as a blocking / delay vehicle as if it were to come up against any other nations MBT (main battle tank) their larger armanents would make short work of its armour, and the 40mm weapon of the Ajax would be no more than a slight pain job fix on any modern offensive tank. Yes, you could use it in an offensive role trying to take ground and exploit enemy weaknesses. However that does not mean it becomes a tank, as you could do the same with an armoured wheeled vehicle like the future boxer, or current Danish Piranha V. Just because it has a turret and tracks does not make it a tank. Ultimately it boils down to armour, armament, and role on the battlefield. My comment stemed from a point that a proffesional, well educated soldier does not even know the role of the vehicle he is currently testing. I thought that armoured recognition and roles would be drilled into the very people who use these vehciles day to day.
@jamiecartwright5093
@jamiecartwright5093 6 ай бұрын
Beautiful parade ground rig , put in action against kornet! Game over
@RomanHistoryFan476AD
@RomanHistoryFan476AD Ай бұрын
Britain still needs a tracked IFV though, the Boxer while a great vehicle is not tracked and could struggle to follow the armour into more nasty terrain and muddy areas.
@Bob-bo8ik
@Bob-bo8ik 2 ай бұрын
It doesn't say much, when lasting 2 weeks without breaking exceeds expectations.
@madade27
@madade27 10 ай бұрын
Good Old MOD Procurment again!
@MzLunaCee
@MzLunaCee 10 ай бұрын
Everything made by the lowest bidder!
@joeblowe3180
@joeblowe3180 10 ай бұрын
"monster" lmao. The only thing monster about this is the obsolescence
@JohanLofgren-jc4mh
@JohanLofgren-jc4mh 10 ай бұрын
What can it do that CV90 can't?
@RustyBear
@RustyBear 10 ай бұрын
no aa or atgm carrier??? huh?
@bootlegpete7984
@bootlegpete7984 10 ай бұрын
Will get a Javelin ATGM launcher.
@ukironman1
@ukironman1 10 ай бұрын
This is supposed to be a replacement for the fast, relatively quiet , low-weight and helicopter transportable CVR series. Big fat ROFL. I saw one of these being transported near Oxford on the motorway; thing was as big as the Challenger 2 tank...
@Louis-ej1lx
@Louis-ej1lx 10 ай бұрын
CVRT are obsolete. They were made for a recce doctrine of not being seen by the enemy. In todays world that is impossible so the army has had to switch to the doctrine of recce by force/fire, which requires a better protected, more heavily armed vehicle.
@stevestruthers6180
@stevestruthers6180 Ай бұрын
And at around 40 tons, they weigh as much as a Leopard 1 tank. Ideally, armoured recce is supposed to be done in stealthy, quiet, small vehicles that are hard to detect and hit. Although the 40mm gun might help the crew get out of a pickle, and the additional armour protection wouldn't hurt.
@samsmith7212
@samsmith7212 6 ай бұрын
How long before the information of the Ajax is leaked on the war thunder forums
@redjacc7581
@redjacc7581 9 ай бұрын
so, have they sorted out the mass vibrations making crew & soldiers i'll?
@Tony-zr6cp
@Tony-zr6cp 10 ай бұрын
And after 2 years of over maintenance they’ll start going down.
@davidoldboy5425
@davidoldboy5425 10 ай бұрын
Not a great start but time will tell? but looking at the pictures you could drive a Nissan Micra where it was, how about some challenging Terrain? or is this just a whitewash?
@ianwang5242
@ianwang5242 9 ай бұрын
"We fixed the crew's hearing damage issue caused by noise!" "How did u boys fix that issue?" "We added an extra earplug under the headphones!"
@XxASBURYxX
@XxASBURYxX 10 ай бұрын
Looks great, but modern war has shown us how vulnerable armour is currently, a Lancet drone costing less than 40k will easily disable this, crew will be fine at least
@MaxKingsley72
@MaxKingsley72 10 ай бұрын
Just like every armoured vehicle on this planet, what do u except u little rat?
@Ludovit110
@Ludovit110 Ай бұрын
Magnificent. Too bad Its not replacing neither Warrior IFV's nor Bulldog's APC's, as it's not IFV nor a full-capacity APC, for which they will have to procure a totally different family of vehicles.
@clivecartey
@clivecartey 10 ай бұрын
.....a 'Tracked Overweight Turkey', hardly air-mobile, and under-gunned and obsolete before it enters service. A little something called the 'Ukraine War' has changed what the armed, armoured, reconaisance battlefield will look like and, within a decade, it will be autonomous - air and ground.
@Dutch2484
@Dutch2484 10 ай бұрын
Recce vehicle ? - Obvs a different league from Scimitar but... its flippin MASSIVE (!) CVRT could go places Warrior just couldn't. (Has it still got a BV? :-) )
@Louis-ej1lx
@Louis-ej1lx 10 ай бұрын
CVRT was made fore a doctrine of sneaking around unseen. With drones that has become impossible which necessitates a better protected and more heavily armed vehicle.
@michaeltate8017
@michaeltate8017 7 ай бұрын
Best way to gain above average equipment is to follow trends of peer nations. Copy others no need to reinvent the wheel. Look at the boxer, GB in anticipation of start, left then re-examined it years later, missing out on its early use.
@timwingham8952
@timwingham8952 Ай бұрын
Can't help but think - for recon it's a bit big. Compared to a Scimitar Scorpion or Sabre it's HUGE.
@ahms732
@ahms732 10 ай бұрын
I wonder how good Ajax anti drone protection is as it seems to be more relevant on todays battlefield against armour.
@princeoftonga
@princeoftonga 6 ай бұрын
Proximity fused 40mm will be pretty effective against drones. The issue in Ukraine is detection and the Ukrainian forces seem to be finding that a decent thermal sight is pretty good for that.
@markmilnes8954
@markmilnes8954 10 ай бұрын
I'm speaking of good vibrations..
@alanfaulkner6329
@alanfaulkner6329 8 ай бұрын
Exceded expectations. Four went out four came back. Wow. That was the bar set pretty low for a brand new vehicle worth billions.
@matthewwalker5430
@matthewwalker5430 10 ай бұрын
I kind of like the fact that Ajax had so many well documented issues. Assuming Ajax ends up as capable as it it is starting to look, I actually think the negativity works quite favourably and fittingly for our British Military as it means, inevitably, Ajax will be underestimated by our future foes and it also implies that nobody was willing to settle for anything and to persevere until we were genuinely happy with the end product. We do have a history of being underestimated by opponents and it works quite nicely for us in my view - in fact our failures have usually come from when we ourselves have had too much confidence in our abilities and our equipment and it has ended up biting us on the backside. I'd far rather have people doubting us and for us to prove them wrong, than have us beating our own chests and posturing only to end up struggling when push comes to shove because things don't work quite as well as we were told they would
@jonathanwebb8307
@jonathanwebb8307 10 ай бұрын
All big military projects have teething troubles. The press any cynical politicians make a mountain out of a molehill. At least in the west we find these things out early. In dictatorships they are covered up. Look at Russia, going to war only to find its Armata completly useless.
@jacobb-c7946
@jacobb-c7946 9 ай бұрын
@@JimCarnernot really, just think youre slow.
@andrewmillerphotography
@andrewmillerphotography 10 ай бұрын
Monster is the right word
@lorenzwiedemar1837
@lorenzwiedemar1837 10 ай бұрын
All well and good but without APS (nothing of the sort was mentioned in the video) that also covers top attack threads, Ajax is not fit fot today's battlefield. Hunderts of IFV's littering Ukrainas crop fields should be enaugh of a warning.
@johnhopkins6260
@johnhopkins6260 10 ай бұрын
To coin a phrase: "where's the beef?"
@JonathonMitchell-ig4bv
@JonathonMitchell-ig4bv 10 ай бұрын
I like him or her that will be a great battlefield, tank I wish devon have one of those
@ollieisaninja
@ollieisaninja 9 ай бұрын
0:52 to 0:56 See the track at the rear.
@redjacc7581
@redjacc7581 9 ай бұрын
so disappointing hearing a crew member calling this a tank, back to school for that guy please.
@rossco88
@rossco88 10 ай бұрын
Tracks sound loud
@unclesamuk8687
@unclesamuk8687 6 ай бұрын
WT really needs to add this to the tech tree.
@tellyboy17
@tellyboy17 10 ай бұрын
In this world my friend there is two types of fighting vehicles: drones and targets.
@StevenWarren-h1e
@StevenWarren-h1e 10 ай бұрын
I just hope the lads get the right stuff. They need Shouldn't be about money. When it comes to their lives, they should get the best.
@bikes02
@bikes02 10 ай бұрын
Did I hear one of them call it a tank 0:31 🤣
@stonemarten1400
@stonemarten1400 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, not sure he has to use layman’s language when he’s talking to the audience of Forces News.
@Toolbod
@Toolbod 10 ай бұрын
The way it crashes through small puddles is worrying. No give in the front shocks at all.
@peacefulpleb
@peacefulpleb 8 ай бұрын
It's a bit big for a recon vehicle, what a profile. It is bigger than Warrior. Still CVRT needs replacing.
@zimcanit6647
@zimcanit6647 10 ай бұрын
Dude was drifting a tank!
@matt-f1c
@matt-f1c Ай бұрын
Nice ASCOD 1.5
@knowahnosenothing4862
@knowahnosenothing4862 9 ай бұрын
"So thank you, Ajax Spray and Wipe" anyone remember that add?
@MrWorldwide00
@MrWorldwide00 10 ай бұрын
Plagued with problems. Would have been more intelligent to buy cv90 or lynx platforms and just built our own turrets for them
@GosWardHen98
@GosWardHen98 6 ай бұрын
Still not ready with too many mods going on... we need a 1000 plus. 😮
@thepulle4722
@thepulle4722 10 ай бұрын
‘Monster new battlefield vehicle’ more like monstrous waste of taxpayers money (over 5 BILLION pounds so far), should’ve just bought the superior CV90
@gadgetgus
@gadgetgus 10 ай бұрын
Better late than never... It seems like a good platform overall. Even though the gun has proven effective in trials, it still looks a bit of a 'pea shooter' to me, compared to the actual size of the vehicle. However, I know looks can be deceiving sometimes, so only time will tell if it's: Ajax the Great or Ajax the Lesser... Let's hope it proves itself with good, tactical awareness to assist in the field, with the ability to dash from midfielder to striker, occasionally ⚽️ Atb Gus 👍
@dalehewison6319
@dalehewison6319 10 ай бұрын
My understanding is that the gun was added almost as an afterthought - the original requirement being for an armoured fighting vehicle troop carrier and command & control vehicle. Then somebody (MoD?) said it should have a gun and hey presto, it's a tank! The gun will give the crew a bit of confidence that they can fire back ... as long as it's nothing too serious.
@gadgetgus
@gadgetgus 10 ай бұрын
@JimCarner great feedback, much appreciated 💪 I agree overall. The MOD identified an APS camouflage requirement a while back, but I'm surmising that they want to keep costs down, as it's already been delayed. To get the main procurement sorted is paramount, then they can upgrade the vehicle over time. You can overwhelm most armoured vehicles with loitering munitions nowadays, so it will be interesting to see those countermeasures... Atb Gus 👍
@gadgetgus
@gadgetgus 10 ай бұрын
@JimCarner No worries, buddy 👍 I can read your replies and sent you one back... First, we need 5G or 6G, then perhaps things shall improve overall 😉
@GregMoylan-pn6sr
@GregMoylan-pn6sr 10 ай бұрын
"It works really well"... until it hits a mine.
@monk3synuts
@monk3synuts 6 ай бұрын
Wunderbar!
@rebel1052k
@rebel1052k 10 ай бұрын
Looks great, a lot better than the Warrior and Bulldog!
@barneyreeves2253
@barneyreeves2253 10 ай бұрын
Yeah that's not difficult, those platforms are 30 and 60 years old respectably. For the obscene price tag on Ajax and the fact its taken over 10 years, you would hope so.
@stephencrossman9402
@stephencrossman9402 10 ай бұрын
Bit of a beast not small and nimble for recce work
@realgrilledsushi
@realgrilledsushi 9 ай бұрын
Sweet drone target
@mauricetoussaint7283
@mauricetoussaint7283 10 ай бұрын
It's an AFV, not a tank. A bit worrying that they don't all know that. So, has anyone tested it against modern weapons and drone munitions? Going by what we see in Ukraine, it might not last long on the battlefield.
@williamfenn30
@williamfenn30 10 ай бұрын
My thought exactly. Yet with the delay in bringing the system to deployment and lessons learned from the Ukraine topside protection would, I feel, be paramount
@P.G.Wodelouse
@P.G.Wodelouse 10 ай бұрын
don't get caught up in the classifications and naming that is more for internet warriors. in reality, they use what is needed where it is needed and don't care what you call it.
@Jamie-km2sl
@Jamie-km2sl 9 күн бұрын
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