RARE Ichang Papeda Taste Test

[@All_for_Christ_94]

I really like this style of video and hope to see you do more of the same with the figs varieties through the seasons. 👍🏼

[@themulberries]

@@All_for_Christ_94 Thank you for taking the time to watch our video! I will definitely look to do something like this for figs too eventually.

[@quinnM1007]

Interesting fruit, thanks for sharing, did not know much about it before!

[@themulberries]

You're welcome! I'm still learning about it myself!

[@CitrusPalmsWithTom]

Because Ichang papeda is a true species and is monoembryonic, any specimen that is grown from seed is potentially a hybrid. This explains some of the variation that exists between individual specimens.

[@themulberries]

Very interesting. I'm curious to germinate these seeds and see what happens!

[@jeremiahedwards2073]

Thank you for this.

[@CitrusPalmsWithTom]

@ they could be true to type or you could have a hybrid. Only time will tell!

[@VirginiaFruitGrower]

Thats a beautiful leaf. Yeah my fuit looked pretty different

[@themulberries]

It really was a beautiful tree with that foliage. I liked how your fruit looked so I want to explore other variations and hybrids.

[@jeremiahedwards2073]

Thank you for this.

[@themulberries]

@@jeremiahedwards2073 You're welcome!

[@leonpham9391]

Great video in the future i wanna grow some cold hardy citrus to and breed cold hardy citrus so videos like this are awesome to learn some new information 😀 but sadly in my area cold hardy are almost not available . Im from Germany

[@themulberries]

Thank you! Maybe you can find some hobbyists nearby or even ornamental trifoliate orange trees you can collect seeds from. Good luck in your efforts!

[@brianmccarrier1605]

I've always wondered about doing a ((Ichang Papeda x Trifoliate orange) x Nagami kumquat) cross. Basically try to re-create the Thomasville Citrangquat with something more cold hardy than an orange as the parent of the citrange.

[@themulberries]

@@brianmccarrier1605 I think there's a lot of potential in recreating the Thomasville Citrangequat with other 50% trifoliate hybrids. I plan on making a cross with kumquat or calamondin and citrandarin in the near future.

[@paul.1337]

Papeda looks like it's ornamental/breeding use only. I think the pith might get bitter if you boil it (some other citrus do, but their piths are also bitter anyway, so it might taste bitter or not like much of anything). I went trifoliate hunting, again. This time at a public park and found the tree still alive and a couple fruit still hanging (the leaves all dropped) and lots on the ground. I can see why people consider them inedible. Before cutting them I like the smell, very floral, citrusy. After cutting, the ones that were starting to go bad were ghastly. lol. They don't spoil gracefully. The ones that were still relatively fresh smelled OK cut with very pronounced pineyness added in. Juice was very sour lemony-orangey-piney. I tried to be gentle, but the juice got a little milky looking, so I assume I squeezed out some resins, and there wasn't much juice at all. ~25 seeds in a ping pong ball sized one. I wanted them for the seeds though to grow some of my own rootstock rather than pay ~$14 for them, so mission accomplished there. I probably got 500+ seeds to play with. 😁

[@paul.1337]

Also fouled up my knife as expected, but I used one an old beat up one I wouldn't be upset about trashing.

[@themulberries]

Definitely, I think it's a good collector's citrus for ornamental purposes and it ought to make some very interesting hybrids. Your taste experience sounds similar to mine! If you let the juice settle and use the top portion it's much better. 500 new seedlings is awesome, and you may notice some interesting variation amongst them. I finally tried the fruit of Poncirus+ and will have a review for it this week. It was shocking, because despite the leaves tasting bitter, the fruit has no resin in the flesh. No stickiness in your mouth, reduced resin left behind on the knife, and the flesh is more transparent and without the pine flavor. My wife doesn't like standard trifoliate and she enjoyed this fruit more. A little trick for the resin on the knife - isopropyl alcohol.

[@joman104]

Might make for an interesting root stock, is it thorny?

[@themulberries]

Not nearly as thorny as most other hardy citrus. Probably similar to Yuzu or Sudachi.

[@lorenbush8876]

Will any citrus that is grafted to a Trifoliate orange rootstock become as cold hardy as the Trifoliate orange? Thanks

[@themulberries]

Not quite, but grafting onto trifoliate orange can help induce earlier dormancy for the scion variety, which is a huge benefit for cold hardiness. Numbers vary but you could gain an extra 5°F maybe.

[@kathleenebsen2659]

Hmmm! Trifoliate is said to be originally a hybrid between a citrus and an unknown species. It could be that papeda is linked to trifoliate. That would explain the similarities.

[@themulberries]

@@kathleenebsen2659 I've seen studies that link them closer genetically than other citrus. Being true species themselves they definitely date back to a very long time ago! This may also explain their higher than average hardiness.

[@joman104]

Strange looking!

[@themulberries]

It's unique for sure!