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@GardenAndgrow Күн бұрын

Wow I wouldn’t have thought New York was still zone 7. Great job spreading them like a citrus Johnny Appleseed

@themulberries Күн бұрын

@@GardenAndgrow Yes, southern NY is still zone 7a/7b but it quickly gets much colder as you go upstate. We have family in zone 4/5 too. Thanks!

@GardenAndgrow Күн бұрын

@ oh my zone 4. I’m growing haskap berries in zone 7 that would prefer that cold weather

@themulberries Күн бұрын

@@GardenAndgrow Oh yeah, some species much prefer the shorter, cooler seasons.

@BadBoyBreeze13 Күн бұрын

Isn’t there one called Craig? It’s supposed to be really good. Maybe it’s Prague.

@themulberries Күн бұрын

@@BadBoyBreeze13 😂 Never heard of Craig, Prague is most likely what you're thinking of.

@adamdusen 2 күн бұрын

Do you know where one could get a grafted 'Bishop'? I would love to get my hands on one of these to try in my zone 7a climate (in a microclimate that's probably more like 7b).

@themulberries 2 күн бұрын

@@adamdusen As far as I know, there's only a few specimen trees of the Bishop citrandarin. Obtaining seeds/budwood is easier and the seeds grow more true than US-852 from what I hear. Thankfully since we were able to propagate this variety last year, we should have enough budwood to sell grafted Bishop trees in the Spring/Summer!

@adamdusen 2 күн бұрын

@@themulberries Sounds great, I will be very happy to buy a grafted one this spring!

@themulberries 2 күн бұрын

@@adamdusen Great! We'll update our KZbin and website when they are available.

@adamdusen 2 күн бұрын

Awesome video - very informative! Thanks for making this!

@themulberries 2 күн бұрын

@@adamdusen You're welcome! I'm glad you found it helpful.

@joman104 2 күн бұрын

What zone is this?

@themulberries 2 күн бұрын

@@joman104 Historically 7a, but I think it's now considered 7b.

@PapaPepper 2 күн бұрын

Which citrumelo do you think is more cold hardy, Swingle or Dunstan?

@themulberries 2 күн бұрын

@@PapaPepper I think they're very close in hardiness, Dunstan might be slightly hardier. I know instances of both surviving 1-3°F and I've heard of Dunstan surviving even lower! They are sister varieties too so it makes sense if they're similarly hardy.

@PapaPepper 2 күн бұрын

Right on. Thinking of a bulk seed order of a citrumelo and then planting them all and see which ones survive. How's the size/taste comparison between the Dunstan and Swingle in your opinion?

@themulberries 2 күн бұрын

@PapaPepper That sounds like an awesome idea! I would strongly recommend Sacaton seeds from Lyn Citrus. They sell them in bulk and Sacaton has a higher % of zygotic seeds which is very helpful for mass selections. Swingle and Dunstan are highly true-to-type from seed. Swingle is generally smaller and more lemon-like in flavor with some secondary grapefruit flavor. Dunstan is larger and more grapefruit/pomelo-like in flavor.

@brianbaumann1337 3 күн бұрын

Hope I am not too late! Congrats on 1,000!

@themulberries 3 күн бұрын

@@brianbaumann1337 Thank you! We already have a winner!

@brianbaumann1337 4 күн бұрын

Would love to give one of those a try up here in NJ 7b

@themulberries 4 күн бұрын

@@brianbaumann1337 Definitely! Tri-clem-yuz shows a lot of potential, I hope Tri-chang lemon performs similarly.

@brendanchenelle6936 5 күн бұрын

Fantastic comparison. I had also been unable to find much in terms of comparison, and it's great to see that it is superior. Looks like it has a lot of potential to be the base genetics for a greatly improved variety!

@themulberries 5 күн бұрын

@@brendanchenelle6936 Thank you very much! Compared to Stan's trifoliate orange (which seems fairly typical), it's definitely a substantial improvement. If it can pass this quality down, it will be excellent for breeding purposes!

@BrokeFarmer 6 күн бұрын

What do you fertilize with

@themulberries 6 күн бұрын

@@BrokeFarmer Usually either Madison Citrus Nursery's 13-6-6 or Jack's Citrus Feed 20-10-20.

@kathleenebsen2659 7 күн бұрын

I’m thrilled that you will be up to the challenge to breed new cold Hardy hybrids! It will be an adventure!

@themulberries 7 күн бұрын

@@kathleenebsen2659 It sure will! I can't wait to see how these all end up in the future.

@doggiefamily908 7 күн бұрын

Do your pots have bottoms? Just wondering if you would consider these to be potted or in ground. And do you think if they were fully in the ground , would the results be different?

@themulberries 7 күн бұрын

@@doggiefamily908 No bottoms but because they are fabric the roots do still penetrate. I would consider them in-ground but root-restricted, however I wouldn't expect much different results if these were planted permanently.

@jphollister8368 7 күн бұрын

Love the 🎉 content. If you've got seeds, I'd like to buy them from you! 👏🏼

@themulberries 7 күн бұрын

@@jphollister8368 Thank you! No seeds for several more years at least, but I'll be rooting cuttings and offering them for sale next year.

@mflbikes1870 7 күн бұрын

Awesome crosses keep up the good work

@themulberries 7 күн бұрын

@@mflbikes1870 Thanks! Going to pump out as many as I can and may luck be in our favor.

@Hydreii 7 күн бұрын

Very cool plants ! I totally agree about crossing ichang papeda types with trifoliate types. They seem to neutralize each other's downsides somewhat, like trifoliate influence. In Europe we've already had some interesting results... Tri-Voss n°1 was said to be a poncirus x ichangensis cross, but now many believe it's actually a citrumelo x ichangensis. The fruits are small and seedy, but juicy and supposedly without trifoliate influence at all. It was said to be hardy to -18°C (0F) but many people even in 8a lost theirs to the cold, saying it's less cold tolerant than ichangensis. Mine survived two rather harsh winters, going down below -13°C (8F), frozen ground and temperatures not rising above freezing for close to three weeks. Aside from slight yellowing of leaves and stems, it had no damage at all. And it's planted in the middle of a field, quite exposed to the wind. I got some blooms on it, but no fruit yet, so I can't confirm its quality. I'm not sure it is present in the US yet. Yuzu x Citrumelo is quite rare in Europe still, I got mine a year ago and protected it for its first winter. It did great and was completely undamaged at -8°C (17F), it looked very healthy and grew vigorously in spring. It supposedly has fruits larger and juicier than yuzu, with less seeds and no trifoliate influence, but less fragrance than yuzu. There's limited info on it still, so hard to say if this is accurate. It supposedly survives down to -17°C (1F), which wouldn't surprise me. I believe some people in the US have it, but I'm not certain. Ichangstar is another interesting cross between 5Star Citrumelo and a cold hardier ichang papeda. Supposedly hardy to -18°C (0F), it was barely damaged in the breeder's garden in over a dozen years... But it's still quite new and rare, so few people have it. Out of the few seedlings that fruited, some seem quite promising, with good aroma and no trifoliate influence. All but one seem to be bitter from what I've read. Hopefully I'll get my hands on that non-bitter one soon. Keraji mandarin apparently has some ichangensis ancestry too. The same breeder made a 5Star x keraji cross, and one of his seedlings makes sweet fruits with no trifoliate influence. It's probably not nearly as cold tolerant as ichangstar though. Maybe a bit less hardy than a yuzu ? That's still amazing results. I'm fairly certain you're aware of these crosses already, I've seen you in the forums. But anyone reading might be interested... Personnally, I'd like to make a Poncirus x ichangensis cross to get something with maximized cold hardiness and diminished trifoliate traits. It could then be used to cross with sweet citrus, probably with interesting results. My dream is sweet citrus with yuzu-like hardiness ! Hopefully your trees will have decent fruit quality and good hardiness ! They could become great parents for further breeding.

@themulberries 7 күн бұрын

@@Hydreii Thank you! I agree they could be very useful for future breeding once they mature. Tri-Voes n°1 is definitely an interesting variety, I'm actually not sure if many of these are available in the US, but I would love to acquire and test them!

@Hydreii 7 күн бұрын

@themulberries I'm not sure whether they come true from seed or not, but hopefully they do ! It'll be easier to import them that way. Unfortunately I'm probably going to need a few more years to be able to supply a good amount of seeds.

@themulberries 7 күн бұрын

@@Hydreii Fingers crossed! Even if they're not true, the F2 seedlings might still be useful.

@MichaelRay380 7 күн бұрын

@@Hydreiithere is a poncirus selection with low bitterness if you weren’t aware called poncirus+, and there may be even more low bitterness selections I’m unaware of. It might be useful for you in your breeding journey.

@Hydreii 7 күн бұрын

@MichaelRay380 Yes, I'm aware of it ! Low bitterness and no resin, sounds great. I just received some rootstocks today, hopefully I'll be able to get some poncirus+ scions in spring. I already have ichang papedas and yuzus to breed it with, along with some sweet citrus in pots, and pomelo pollen in the freezer. Thanks for your kind words ! Best of luck to you too, if you plan on breeding as well !

@joman104 7 күн бұрын

Wonderful. A yuzu x 942 cross might be excellent.

@themulberries 7 күн бұрын

Definitely, that cross could bring out the best of both worlds!

@farleyschmackums 7 күн бұрын

Agree!!

@quinnM1007 7 күн бұрын

Great work man!

@themulberries 7 күн бұрын

Thank you!

@CJDykes 7 күн бұрын

Will you be selling any of these new hardy hybrid crosses?

@themulberries 7 күн бұрын

Yes, I will have more availability as these trees mature, but I should have a handful of the hardiest selections this coming Spring/Summer!

@CJDykes 7 күн бұрын

@themulberries, keep me in mind to try them in my Cary, NC garden

@themulberries 7 күн бұрын

@CJDykes Will do!

@paul.1337 8 күн бұрын

I just found Yuzu at the local Whole Foods...very expensive, but going to try and save seeds from them. 🍋 Citremons look super cool. They're on my short list for things to try and grow with minimal protection, in a favorable microclimate, in SE PA zone 7b. Meyers would have to come inside every year and inside my house is apparently the world's largest spider mite colony.😔

@themulberries 8 күн бұрын

@@paul.1337 We saw those recently too! I think they were $10 per pound? Definitely an expensive fruit but fun to use in the kitchen and lots of seeds for propagating! I think Citremon may stand a chance in your climate, especially with passive protection like a water barrel and frost cloth. So far it has demonstrated superior resistance to dessication during the Winter months thanks to its thick, glossy leaves, etc. I started leaving our lemons outside with better results, but in our lightly heated pop-up greenhouse. I've seen hardiness data showing it to be hardy down to 22°F, so it might even be able to survive in our unheated greenhouse.

@mrstefansgreens 8 күн бұрын

Good luck!! Seems hard technic, though 😮 👍

@themulberries 8 күн бұрын

@@mrstefansgreens Thank you! I'm exploring lots of harder techniques this Winter!

@zinckensteel 8 күн бұрын

The green skin on the stem is also photosynthetically active, right? I recall reading something about that when first leaning about trifoliate orange, and how it can be fully deciduous.

@themulberries 8 күн бұрын

@@zinckensteel That's correct! Even leafless cuttings can produce some amount of energy that way.

@yochanontheseeker1942 8 күн бұрын

Nice video! I wonder if I could do this method w citrumelo cuttings grafting Prague onto?

@themulberries 8 күн бұрын

@@yochanontheseeker1942 I think you can! Swingle roots very easily for me and I was able to graft Prague onto it with no issues.

@yochanontheseeker1942 8 күн бұрын

@ I’ll have to try, bc I haven’t seen any growth yet from my grafts I did a few weeks ago (Carolina lime, sugar belle and 10 degree onto swingle, Sacaton and dunstan) that are inside controlled 65-70 degrees under grow lights (I used the method Madison citrus does and folded the citrumelo’s over and have grafts dominate tops). I’m thinking maybe it has to do w bringing the standard 1 gal potted citrumelo’s inside after they were used to a colder greenhouse or maybe the grafts are just delayed a bit. But I would think I’d see some buds at least swelling on the grafts by now. Or maybe I just need to be doing this late spring time in the greenhouse.

@themulberries 8 күн бұрын

@yochanontheseeker1942 What kind of grow lights do you have set up? I would push closer to 80°F if possible and make sure the lights are high-intensity or placed closer to the grafts. I found Carolina Lime and Ten Degree grafts were more responsive to higher temperatures.

@yochanontheseeker1942 8 күн бұрын

@ Thanks for the advice, I’ll up the heat a bit and the lights are at their max and only a couple inches from the grafts. I guess I could get my larger lights on them as well maybe.

@themulberries 8 күн бұрын

@@yochanontheseeker1942 You're welcome! We use Mars Hydro 100W LED with good success, it's extremely bright.

@howardfowler2255 8 күн бұрын

Nice closeups and careful explanations of the grafting make this a winning video. Grafting and rooting at the same time is a big plus especially for us impatient types. I would love to see a similar video with figs. Maybe I could graft my celeste scion on a Violette de B. cutting or vice versa for example? By the way I really enjoyed your citrus taste test series - it got me excited to expand my cold hardy citrus collection! Thanks so much for your video offerings!

@themulberries 8 күн бұрын

@@howardfowler2255 You're welcome and that makes me happy to hear! Definitely, I've used VDB as a rootstock as well as Atreano and White Adriatic because they all root easily and grow fast. Die back during a cold Winter may be a concern in colder zones, but burying the graft union can remedy this problem.

@paul.1337 8 күн бұрын

@JSacadura on YT has a ton of grafting/rooting fig videos worth checking out too.

@themulberries 8 күн бұрын

@@paul.1337 Definitely, his videos are top tier for learning grafting. I actually learned a lot of what I know from him.

@GardenAndgrow 8 күн бұрын

Wow I didn’t know that the bud sticks could have enough energy to root and heal the union same time. Very useful tip

@themulberries 8 күн бұрын

Definitely! I've used it a lot with figs with very good success rates. I was surprised to learn this too.

@nemanjamilicevic7568 9 күн бұрын

Congrats to the winner