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Lincoln's Continentals for 1972: Mark IV & Continental - Part 3 with 2x 460V8 Startup and Headlights

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Rare Classic Cars & Automotive History

Rare Classic Cars & Automotive History

Күн бұрын

Learn more about these two Continentals for 1972, the Mark IV and Continental Coupe.
If you haven't yet checked it out, see Part 1 and 2 of this comparison here:
• Lincoln's Continentals...
• Lincoln's Continentals...

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@P.Galore
@P.Galore 2 жыл бұрын
can't get over how beautiful the '72 Continental coupe is.........
@LP-ov8mp
@LP-ov8mp 2 жыл бұрын
Agree! Especially in all black without the vinyl top. I don’t think I’ve ever seen one without.
@martinmelucci4383
@martinmelucci4383 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not usually a huge fan of the non-Mark Lincolns from the first half of the '70s (though I do like the '74 a lot), but this one is beautiful...the Coupe really looks a lot better without the vinyl roof, and in black it really works so well...it's the nicest looking one I've ever seen.
@onlyhereonce7290
@onlyhereonce7290 2 жыл бұрын
This series is so fun to watch. Two different approaches from Ford. And a glorious result. That we would never see again. Well, until now. So so cool !
@gregharvie3896
@gregharvie3896 2 жыл бұрын
Hi from Sydney , Australia , having an aussie spec' RHD 1973 Conti' mk4 I have collected many period articles and books on these cars . RE the bonnet/hood pressing the engineering dept of Lincoln Division won a coveted national metallurgical award for for the dies and pressing tools for punching out the hoods due to the complex shapes on this hood plus also the width and length factors as well. In the day it was seen as an extraordinary achievement .
@audieconrad8995
@audieconrad8995 2 жыл бұрын
Imho two of some of the most handsome American cars ever produced.
@marcnews75
@marcnews75 2 жыл бұрын
As a brit we never had such wonderful beasts cruising our highways. The american cars of yesteryear are works of art. And i thank you adam for bringing them too my attention.
@UberLummox
@UberLummox 2 жыл бұрын
The lack of vinyl top on the Town Coupe is just stunning. Buttery smooth look.
@khakiswag
@khakiswag 2 жыл бұрын
Always loved the sound of the door latches on those old Ford cars.
@fivehundred4899
@fivehundred4899 2 жыл бұрын
Это не форд
@michaelpfaff6009
@michaelpfaff6009 Жыл бұрын
What a great 3-part series!! I loved it!! Thanks for this!! I had a 77 Town Coupe and a 76 Mark IV and loved them, but I rarely drove them. I finally sold them. I also had a 1986 and 1989 Town Cars. I also had a 98 Town Car. I now daily drive a 2013 MKS and love the tech in it.
@martintheus3672
@martintheus3672 Жыл бұрын
I like the information given about the headlight covers why I always see Continental Mark 3-4 and 5 with the light cover open after the car been parked for years.
@christopherkraft1327
@christopherkraft1327 2 жыл бұрын
Both of these Continentals are gorgeous!!!! Thanks guys for sharing these beautiful machines!!! 👍👍🙂
@richardriehle4159
@richardriehle4159 2 жыл бұрын
i was never really interested in full sized cars but you make them interesting.
@wildcat64100
@wildcat64100 2 жыл бұрын
I knew GM’s fit and finish wasn’t great in these years, but I didn’t know that Lincoln’s was so good.
@johnz8210
@johnz8210 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice. The metal stamping process is really interesting, quite the science. All of the engineers, die makers, etc. did an amazing job with some difficult panels there. The panel quality on these is just top notch.
@toddsholtis4470
@toddsholtis4470 2 жыл бұрын
Love this series! Love Lincolns too!
@steveh9869
@steveh9869 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate you being able to bring industry icons, experts and specialists to discuss the planning, construction and design features of these and other vehicles. Your resources, interview style and editing make a compelling series that keeps the viewer engaged. Keep it up and thanks for educating us on the background and details of these iconic and sometimes overlooked Detroit icons.
@paulypooper2
@paulypooper2 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark and Adam, a most informative series ..
@bigjoe330
@bigjoe330 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you both for a great series on these 2 beautiful American automobiles. 🇺🇸❤️
@tigerman3
@tigerman3 2 жыл бұрын
What a treat to see this series of videos. Thank you!!
@askburlefot2645
@askburlefot2645 2 жыл бұрын
These cars look so great!!!
@johngranato2673
@johngranato2673 2 жыл бұрын
Mark IV is up there with the best looking cars of all time
@damianbowyer2018
@damianbowyer2018 Жыл бұрын
Such Well-Built Cars, Marc and Adam.😊👏
@arthurpolzin8885
@arthurpolzin8885 2 жыл бұрын
Your town car coupe is awesome.I asked your advice about buying a car and am very glad i did i bought a 04 bonneville even with 233,000 still a great car.keep up the good work!I enjoy all your videos
@DSP1968
@DSP1968 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for the detailed look at these two cars! FYI, the only Ford cars which I can think of that had finished headlamp door openings are the '67'-'69 Thunderbirds and '67-'68 Cougars.
@DanEBoyd
@DanEBoyd 2 жыл бұрын
An easily rationalized thing for Adam's predecessors to have cut out of the program...
@rdhudon7469
@rdhudon7469 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the '60's My granduncle won a lottery and bought a new burgundy '68 cougar with a black leather interior . He took me out for ice cream and I vomited all over the interior . My aunt warned him but he didn't listen . Lol .
@mikekokomomike
@mikekokomomike 2 жыл бұрын
​​@@rdhudon7469 when someone riding in your car tells you they are getting sick, take their word for it and pull over. Don't even try to talk them out of it 😂
@247jimbo
@247jimbo 2 жыл бұрын
Two American beauties! Total presence driving up in one of these!
@markdc1145
@markdc1145 2 жыл бұрын
The discussion about Lincolns having long front overhangs brought back memories from my time at Chrysler in the early '80s. Much of the design mgmt there had recently come over from Ford and I remember us being asked to add extra front overhang even to the most compact cars. We always felt this made the cars look awkward but were powerless to change it.
@RareClassicCars
@RareClassicCars 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Which cars got that look at Chrysler?
@markdc1145
@markdc1145 2 жыл бұрын
Many styling proposals never shown to the public. Some of this influence can be seen on the K-car based New Yorker and Dynasty.
@ThisCarChannel
@ThisCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
These cars often added to the athmosphere of many movie scenes. Even if just parked in the background, eyes shut. Many times it may have been product placement, but surely used by directors and production designers to great effect. The angular front with hidden lamps had a sinister aire to it. In the movie Harold and Maude, a Marquis and a yellow 71 Continental were parked side by side in a scene that made for an almost otherworldly an impression. And in Herbie rides again, 3 Continentals literally "face" the Beetles friendly lines with their almost sinister look.
@charlesmccabe5503
@charlesmccabe5503 2 жыл бұрын
Quietly exciting video showing comparisons within the same year. Gives me the feeling I was at a dealership show room.
@The7humpwump
@The7humpwump 2 жыл бұрын
Hats off to both of you for putting together an informative and enjoyable series. Hope we get another!
@danielleclare2938
@danielleclare2938 2 жыл бұрын
Light duty trucks took over from these cruisers with all the big luxury now available and the crew cab wheelbase is right up their with the Lincoln and Caddies. These cars left us but we never left these cars. So instead of a Lincoln you have a Limited. Caddy is a Denali etc.
@charlesb7019
@charlesb7019 2 жыл бұрын
True, but the trucks just don’t have the class of the older cars….
@purplegoose7907
@purplegoose7907 2 жыл бұрын
Adam, thanks for having Mark on to discuss design. As far as I'm concerned he does come back by POPULAR demand. A wealth of knowledge.
@markbehr88
@markbehr88 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice. I was never too bothered by the lack of finishing once the concealed headlight covers are opened. Makes it easier to access for serving and it’s dark when you generally use them (and you are sitting behind the wheel). My 1981 Imperial does have the nice chrome behind the covers (I think that was cheapened in the 1982 and 83 models). The Chrysler actuators are electric but they also can strip the plastic gears. The happened on my 68 Chrysler 300 4 door hardtop.
@The_R-n-I_Guy
@The_R-n-I_Guy 2 жыл бұрын
There are so many things about each car that I like better than the other. But they are both great looking.
@rickreid81
@rickreid81 2 жыл бұрын
Mutch needed & very appreciated video series. Thank you. It was excellent
@zeevon9
@zeevon9 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed watching! Beautiful cars.
@roberth7894
@roberth7894 2 жыл бұрын
What's cool is that these were made at the Wixom plant, a place that produced many models for decades.
@markharkey3279
@markharkey3279 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Adam and Mark!
@Johnnycdrums
@Johnnycdrums 2 жыл бұрын
Marks last line was the perfect ending.
@mraudio
@mraudio 2 жыл бұрын
I love these comparison videos. It would be very interesting to see one of competing models, such as this Continental and your Imperial coupe...
@howebrad4601
@howebrad4601 2 жыл бұрын
I chuckle too as I work on my 75 Continental as it too has the GM ac compressor and GM power steering pump
@markesanderson6381
@markesanderson6381 2 жыл бұрын
Adam, great presentation w/ Marc. Your varied knowledge together is easy to listen to. I love both of these vehicles. Love the grille on the Mark IV. but I'd have to go w/ the Continental Coupe. So clean, wide, elegant, non vinyl, and so uniquely rare. Love the Coupe's IP as well. Thanks for the recent night drives showing headlights, tail lights, signals - IPs, startups on other cars too. I had a Parker Brother's game called "Dealer's Choice" (1974) as an 11 year old - my fav car to "buy" in that game was the Continental Coupe. I've watched every video Adam - thank you for enjoyable presentations.
@martinmelucci4383
@martinmelucci4383 2 жыл бұрын
The long overhang almost makes these cars (including Mark III and V, and the other 70's Lincoln's) seem less massive in the sense of how they keep the designs flowing and streamlined them, where they do not look chunky or heavy in appearance, unlike many other very large cars. It's all of a piece with the rooflines (even with the more upright looking 1975-79 non-Marks), etc, that is so well executed.
@DanEBoyd
@DanEBoyd 2 жыл бұрын
GM Saginaw 'canned ham' PS pump, also found in trucks and vans. My '68 Cougar had 'bezel plates' which covered the cavity and all of its springs and adjuster screws, when the headlight doors were open. For '69 and '70, the Cougar also went to a single actuator/servo. My '68 Cougar had no springs in the servo, so the doors stayed closed indefinitely. There were supposed to be springs for the doors, but I didn't have them. Mine had only vacuum holding the doors open, with gravity assisting the weaker top seals in keeping the doors closed/down.
@rafranks1410
@rafranks1410 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting point about the headlight doors. I believe GM, especially in my long-ago neighbor’s Camaro RS, used vacuum to keep the doors closed, so a vacuum failure would leave them open, and operational.
@rafranks1410
@rafranks1410 2 жыл бұрын
As far as the P/S pump, Ford’s usual pump tended to be higher pressure, for that fingertip ease of use, but needed an auxiliary fluid cooler. GM’s didn’t.
@ralphwilliams2396
@ralphwilliams2396 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful examples
@toronado455
@toronado455 2 жыл бұрын
Two very nice cars. 🏆
@Richard4point6
@Richard4point6 2 жыл бұрын
I hope that you two will present more. Great job!
@fhwolthuis
@fhwolthuis 2 жыл бұрын
I love this, guys. Thank you!
@tigre7739
@tigre7739 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Lincoln Marks, (and in this case, Marc's Lincoln)😁, but there is something about that Lincoln coupe that just draws me in! 🤘
@ProjectFairmont
@ProjectFairmont 2 жыл бұрын
‘72 is really the ideal year for both cars. Late Mid-Century perfection.
@WhittyPics
@WhittyPics 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful vehicles
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 2 жыл бұрын
Adam, I have to say Marc's Mark IV is probably the nicest Torino I have ever seen. 😁
@RareClassicCars
@RareClassicCars 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 2 жыл бұрын
@@RareClassicCars Since it was part of the Lincoln Mercury family, should we consider it to be a high end Montego?
@NorthernDG
@NorthernDG 2 жыл бұрын
The super long hood of the Lincolns ensured that you arrived at your destination quicker than the Cadillac with it's relatively shorter hood. LOL
@Paul1958R
@Paul1958R 2 жыл бұрын
'you dont see a -massive- two door car anymore'
@eddstarr2185
@eddstarr2185 2 жыл бұрын
The 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado caused a sensation, but so did the 1967 Mercury Cougar. The Cougar was a revelation! No trace of Mustang is evident in the Cougar's design, it looked more like a small Thunderbird. So, if the Mustang can give rise to the Cougar, what would happen if the same technique was applied to a Ford Torino/Mercury Montego? Ford engineering recognized the similarity of a mid-sized coupe, versus a personal luxury car. The Mark IV is a design and engineering triumph, the advantage of lessons learned well.
@andrerossato5846
@andrerossato5846 2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@ab348
@ab348 2 жыл бұрын
Marc mentions numerous times in this series how the Mk IV was based off the Torino. While they no doubt share a number of individual Ford components I do not think that assertion is correct. The Mk IV and the Thunderbird are platform mates, sharing the same wheelbase, frame, unique “bent” A-pillars and door internals. None of those are used by the Torino as it was a smaller vehicle.
@RareClassicCars
@RareClassicCars 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. The Tbird and Mark IV of this gen share many Torino components and were based off of it, much like the 76 Seville was based off of a stretched Chevy Nova.
@leewalker3514
@leewalker3514 2 жыл бұрын
Your car’s are great
@GTRxMan
@GTRxMan 2 жыл бұрын
To my mind, the Mark IV was the best looking of the series. Still don't understand Ford's decision to use vacuum for the headlight doors. It seems so much more complex and less reliable than a simple electric motor.
@ProjectFairmont
@ProjectFairmont 2 жыл бұрын
It’s quieter. And reliable. My MkV is for 45 years old and they work well. If you do have to replace a valve that holds the line pressure so the doors remained closed, it’s not expensive.
@DanEBoyd
@DanEBoyd 2 жыл бұрын
The electric ones could and did have trouble with the linkages and motors, notably the '67-'69 Camaro RS, and another commenter above stated that he had a Chrysler 300 which had linkage problems, so they weren't immune to problems either. I think all Chargers are electric from '66 on, so I don't know if MOPAR ever used vacuum. The '63-'67 Corvettes used electric motors, with Chevrolet switching to vacuum actuation for the C3. Maybe GM felt safe using electric on the RS because the doors were side-hinged?
@lonwaslien104
@lonwaslien104 2 жыл бұрын
Between these two I prefer the stealth appearance of the Continental Coupe 👍
@jakereal3604
@jakereal3604 2 жыл бұрын
Only thing that’s not correct is where Mark says he will start it cause there is not enough juice to open them. In I believe 69 Ford added the default spring to the headlight actuators so once vacuum is depleted the headlight doors will open. If closed they will ALWAYS open, but if you don’t have vacuum then once you open the doors they might not close! Your Continental perfectly demonstrated what I’m referring to ! The doors were closed, they opened up just fine without engine running, but they didn’t have enough vacuum to pull them back down without the car running. Without starting the Mark IV the covers would have opened but may or may not have closed depending on what supply was left in the vac reservoir. I’ve had My Mark lll and 67 Tbird since 85 and 89 respectively and know well how they work. The 67-8 Bird headlight doors stay closed forever even if vac is depleted as there is no fail safe “open” spring. Just an FYI That I’m sure you guys know but viewers may not!
@user-se5zg7en8z
@user-se5zg7en8z 2 ай бұрын
the 72 most attractive of all the marks😮😊
@althunder4269
@althunder4269 2 жыл бұрын
nice ...
@paulparoma
@paulparoma 2 жыл бұрын
Somewhere out there is a deer dying to make an acquaintance of those two cars (no pun intended).
@roger628
@roger628 2 жыл бұрын
I see neither car has the Helholz resonator (looks kind of like an oil filter) on the air cleaner. Maybe it came later. I used to think that only high end 460 cars like Lincolns got them but now I wonder if they were just installed sporadically . My parent's '76 Elite 460 didn't have one, but I have seen a '74 460 Cougar that did. I have seen big Mercurys with and without them too.
@RareClassicCars
@RareClassicCars 2 жыл бұрын
It came later
@onkelmicke9670
@onkelmicke9670 2 жыл бұрын
I really like Marc's Mark IV
@neilschipper3741
@neilschipper3741 2 жыл бұрын
My 1977 2-door Town Car that was triple black only got seven miles to the gallon.
@rafranks1410
@rafranks1410 2 жыл бұрын
When did Lincoln begin using the ‘Town’ moniker on the larger models? And was this when the standard Lincoln lost its‘Continental’ status?
@V8_screw_electric_cars
@V8_screw_electric_cars 2 жыл бұрын
It's like from Cannon episode, I can imagine him chasing some ceo turned murderer driving Continental Coupe in his Mark IV.
@ralphl7643
@ralphl7643 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the lower Mk IV horsepower is caused by the lower hood. The FWD transaxle of the Eldorado caused the air filter housing to be flatter and lowered, which I believe reduced engine power a bit.
@RareClassicCars
@RareClassicCars 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s due to the exhaust
@billkrause4585
@billkrause4585 Жыл бұрын
I'm an old man of 74, but I would like to own your 72 Mark IV. I use to own the last large 1979 Mercury Cougar XRT, and it had similar body style as your 72 Mark IV. That long hood made it a real luxury driver. What State are you from, and what price would you let the Mark IV go?
@ralphl7643
@ralphl7643 2 жыл бұрын
Did these cars have level control inflating rear shocks as on some Cadillacs of the era? I'm wondering how well the Mark IV tows anything of weight with the soft springs.
@markuschristiansen7874
@markuschristiansen7874 2 жыл бұрын
Buying a 1975 continental mark iv next month. I absolutely love it. Any advise?
@RareClassicCars
@RareClassicCars 2 жыл бұрын
Make sure the climate control works and clean your window switches
@markuschristiansen7874
@markuschristiansen7874 2 жыл бұрын
@@RareClassicCars alright thank you, I'll keep that in mind.
@robertdragoff6909
@robertdragoff6909 2 жыл бұрын
Before handing over your money, are you going to have a mechanic look it over?
@markuschristiansen7874
@markuschristiansen7874 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertdragoff6909 No im not sadly. It will be imported, but I have reviewed it myself in person.
@DerrickOil
@DerrickOil 2 жыл бұрын
How much is that under hood light really doing on a dark and lonely road when the 4300 goes out?
@judgegixxer
@judgegixxer 2 жыл бұрын
I hope there is no part 3 to this where Adam mistakingly puts it in reverse and hits the gas instead of the brake. lol Looks like it is a long way down. If I had to pick one it would be Marc's. The side profile reminds me of my grampa's then dad's 71' Galaxie 500.
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Mark IV would look great if the front turn signals were in the bumper and the leading edge of the front were finished off like the 67 Eldorado, just thinking.....
@superdeleon
@superdeleon 2 ай бұрын
Which year are you saying is prone to detonation?
@KenanTurkiye
@KenanTurkiye 2 жыл бұрын
-''Look at that coupe!'' -''Which one?'' -''Both!''
@David-ik8wj
@David-ik8wj 2 жыл бұрын
10:02 classic ford startup
@rjbiker66
@rjbiker66 2 жыл бұрын
Mkiv has front proportions like a Aston Martin Lagonda.
@gm12551
@gm12551 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure Hank the Deuce was chapped to have GM parts in his cars.
@ramiachial2390
@ramiachial2390 2 жыл бұрын
Are this cars for sale?
@danswartwood4580
@danswartwood4580 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't see your headlights come on HMM.
@joemazzola7387
@joemazzola7387 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny when you watch an old t v show and and they use the sound of a Chrysler starter when a Lincoln or a Chevrolet starts up obviously not car guys like Us
@danielleclare2938
@danielleclare2938 2 жыл бұрын
I love stock everything no complaints there. However that Hot Rod Lincoln Continental would do nice with a period supercharger and maybe some period rally wheels.
@hiitsstillme
@hiitsstillme 2 жыл бұрын
We saw a straight black Mark III at a car show many years ago... totally stock, but with a blown 460 poking through the hood. There was something magical about that.
@Johnnycdrums
@Johnnycdrums 2 жыл бұрын
It's not even close. The Lincoln Coupe by a mile.
@craigbenz4835
@craigbenz4835 2 жыл бұрын
I don't care much for the long front overhang. The very short front overhang on my '65 Bel Airs was one of the things that made them attractive to me.
@planestrainsdogsncars4336
@planestrainsdogsncars4336 2 жыл бұрын
Opera windows say more about American taste than anything connected with automotive design. And the engineers must have asked the designers how are we going to fill an engine bay that big?.''.I dunno guys '' ''..space it out I guess.''
@donk499
@donk499 2 жыл бұрын
Never realized the fenders were made from two pieces. Marc, please remove the silly trailer hitch from your Mark!
@craigbenz4835
@craigbenz4835 2 жыл бұрын
Chrysler used that Saginaw steering pump a lot also. Without rhyme or reason as to when.
@jamespolcyn8441
@jamespolcyn8441 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍
@alexeijolkin7851
@alexeijolkin7851 2 жыл бұрын
The HUGE front overhang on these Lincolns just kills it for me. I think it looks ugly.
@elizabethcherry920
@elizabethcherry920 2 жыл бұрын
Every time I see that MK4 it reminds of the Lincoln that was used in the 70s movie The Car, if you have not seen it do so
@ProjectFairmont
@ProjectFairmont 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that was a MkIII.
@TinHatRanch
@TinHatRanch 2 жыл бұрын
I️ guess I’m first.
@rudedog062
@rudedog062 10 ай бұрын
Ford back when America was great! What happened?
@MrJayrock620
@MrJayrock620 2 жыл бұрын
*Stranger, “What kinda mileage does that get?” *Me, 8… *stranger, “wow only 8mpg?” *me, No…: just 8…. 🤣
@loumontcalm3500
@loumontcalm3500 2 жыл бұрын
If you stand back and look at the MkIV front end objectively, that ersatz radiator anachronism is laughable. It's because those twin beacons of poor "throwback" design- Rolls Royce and Mercedes- ruled the "status" of luxury, and both featured grilles abandoned by the rest of the automotive world in the thirties.
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