You are a natural teacher...with just the right amount of levity and light-hearted banter to keep your students engaged. Thanks.
@XRavenHunt4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I am running my Raspberry 3B+ on SSD just like that. Works great because it allows me to run server applications that would normally fail on SD cards. Overally, however, the speeds are not that great, hundred times better than SD card, but the USB2 interface is a huge bottleneck. This should be much less of a problem with Raspberry 4 on USB 3.0
@martinmchugh19246 жыл бұрын
Just like to echo many of the comments on here. You're videos are excellently presented. Good relevant content and very concisely explained throughout. Keep up the good work. It is appreciated.
@1532duvet7 жыл бұрын
Worked first time and runs like a dream. Using a usb drive and boot time is faster. Find these videos really helpful and consider myself as a novice amateur. Thanks Chris!!!
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
An excellent result then! I'm glad that it worked for you. :)
@sheldonwhitten9906 жыл бұрын
"this old SSD I have lying around" I wish I had SSDs lying around
@ExplainingComputers6 жыл бұрын
A result of my age and occupation! :)
@sheldonwhitten9906 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers maybe someday I'll have that many
@TheEPROM96 жыл бұрын
I can vouch for that. Go though your bins and pack rat kit you will end up with all sorts of hardwre just laying around.
@itstricky28016 жыл бұрын
Save your money, or go Panhandle at the Truck stop
@tinkmarshino5 жыл бұрын
@@TheEPROM9 yeah but all mine is from before windows 3.1 agp cards anyone?
@stupossibleify7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Remember that for those of us watching on the TV, the buttons at the end of the video don't display ;)
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed. But there are pressures on us KZbinrs to use end screens . . . They don't work in some Android browsers either.
@wattage7 жыл бұрын
Incredibly useful tutorial! I shared a link to your vid on a group of RPi/Retro gaming enthusiasts on FB. Thank you!
@GhostPressures7 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say thanks for this! I am setting up a RACHEL-Pi for a school in Namibia and have been looking at PiDrive as an alternative to the MicroSD due to corruption and power outages. This is way better!
@RCfromtheNYC7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tutorial! The mad scientist in me is going to try running RetroPie off of an SSD...stay tuned!
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
Do report back! :)
@Praxibetel-Ix4 ай бұрын
It's not every day where I find an old EC video that I haven't seen yet. You ought to do this again with the Pi 5!
@wecole6 жыл бұрын
The extra little commentaries he throws into his videos always crack me up! "...unsafe mode, which is always an exciting thing to do, isn't it?...."
@wecole6 жыл бұрын
BTW, I just purchased a new Raspberry Pi 3 B+ (June, 2018) and the one-time programmable memory bit (program_usb_boot_mode=1) was already pre-set to 1 at the factory.
@highdesert507 жыл бұрын
A timely and, as usual, very thorough presentation. Nice upgrade for schools and those on a limited budget by allowing near desktop performance without worrying about high IO demands to the SD.
@wishiwasabear6 жыл бұрын
"This Old SSD I have lying around" are we here already? I am still using hard drives here...
@leytonjay6 жыл бұрын
Kuma You gotta steal them from work. I liberated a 120GB SDDUltra which had been on a spare desk in design area for weeks. £2 usb connector from KZbin and I was in business.
@AdamJee9236 жыл бұрын
The word on the web is soon it will be 'I just had this old 1TB m.2 lying around' true story.
@cunnyman6 жыл бұрын
Just the usual KZbin guys stuff, "Oops, I jist found this Gtx 1080Ti lying around"
@vipervidsgamingplus57236 жыл бұрын
hell I still use a ata drive for a disk drive
@dastanharris6 жыл бұрын
and I just found this core i7 8700k processor lying around for a test with this pi. soon! 😅
@aparicorn44827 жыл бұрын
This is interesting to say the least I'm glad to hear etcher will verify that it went through the first time
@pmr1wrt537 жыл бұрын
Today I tested it with a usb2.0/sata docking station for 2.5"/3.5" Drives and a 3.5" WD Blue 160 GB hard disk. This works great. The only problem is you can't resize the hdd with gparted after you started RPi 3 Jessie. I think it must be earlier, after fetching the image on the hdd. The new RPi 2B v1.2 has the same SoC as the RPi 3B the BCM2837. (ARM Cortex-A53 quad-core processor 900MHz - Broadcom BCM2837). Only the CPU speed limit has down to 900 MHz en it's now 64-bit. Thanks for this great video, never thought it was so simple!
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this feedback, which is really useful for others here. In my tests Raspbian resized its partition on first boot. But if this does not happen, you should be able to use the Pi's preferences/setting panel to do a resize.
@dennismaltz56435 жыл бұрын
My wife works for a 3d fabricating company that has been using Pi. They configure them for controlling installation elements, including interactive media for their displays, like you see in museums, zoos, lobbies etc. They gave me a 3B to play with and all has gone well until I've been trying to boot from usb. I first bought an ADATA SU650 120 gb ssd, couldn't resist at $22 on Ebay. I used Raspian's own "copy SD card" app from nthe desktop intended for cloning, which wrote to my SSD while plugged into the RPI usb. Worked great, looks good. For the moment, the ssd is being powered by an old all-in-one powered setup used for benchwork with harddrives (don't know what they're called. It works as a drive but won't even attempt to boot. For testing, I cloned the same way to a 2nd but greater capacity sd card, via usb card reader. This cloned card works perfectly as a replacement card in the sd slot, but is problematic if I try to boot it via usb (original card has the same troubles). The attempted boot achieves varying results which I guess can happen because the read order is not consistent. There has to be a simple fix in the way of a pointer or moving file/s, but I haven't the experience to do more than keep searching. With the cloned sd I've even gotten to fully booted only to see it die immediately. More often it freezes during post at one of 2 places. Keeping an sd internally doesn't help. I am guessing that maybe the solution of leaving the boot partition on an internal sd, pointing to root via the usb should work, but that should not be necessary. I can't find any info that might help. It was suggested that the partition order can be an issue. I was wondering if Etcher might do something different, but it doesn't make sense that the Raspian native copier wouldn't work for using a cloned disk via usb, especially with how long they've had if it needed a fix. Noting again the cloned sd does work as an internal drive replacement. casePi is not the plus and needed the otp bit set. Does only the plus arrive with the OTP already set? If mine should have come already set, maybe that remains a problem even though I manually set it.
@dirk49267 жыл бұрын
Very cool how the Pi just keeps getting more and more versatile. I always enjoy, and learn something new from your videos, Christopher.
@oldtimeengineer267 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing we can now use larger cheap usb stick
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
Exactly. :)
@olarmariusalex6 жыл бұрын
As a suggestion, there is an awesome option of apt-get named "-y". With this option you can say Yes right on the command line not type it later when will always ask if we want to update/upgrade.
@MrMajintiger5 жыл бұрын
play with the new pi4 config.txt file really waiting on that video.. also my pi in the mail ! love your show.. also not this video but a week with the pi.. you showed raspbian dosent handle ntfs by default.. this drove me crazy ended up making my storage ext4. as ntfs is normally used i do a lot of swapping. thanks to your video i actually solved it googled it but got no love or good answers. love your old school pace and uk flare. respect
@PU7MZD7 жыл бұрын
An instant classic. Can't wait to try this out with a spare netbook HDD I have and my Pi3. Thank you so much!
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. :) Remember that a Pi will not be able to power an HDD directly.
@CorpusOrganic7 жыл бұрын
thanks for that vid. i haven't been keeping up with the raspberry stuff. i had trouble finding the LED when you were talking about it flashing. i finally found it after a few seconds. it sounds like the SD card boot is still possible too. which is nice. really liked seeing that page on your sight. not certain i have looked over your site yet. that page looks like it would be a fascinating read. that looks like it is the type of information i like.
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
Yes, the LEDs are hard to see! And also yes, you can still boot from the SD card (the Pi tries SD first, then USB).
@ianide24807 жыл бұрын
You can just keep the SD card and edit the boot parameters. So it still loads initially from the SD card but then it points at the USB drive. No changing anything permanently that way. This is the method that I use and it works perfect and the PI does not ever touch the SD card except on boot for a second or two. I use a couple of old laptop drives to swap for different setups and a powered HUB.
@drTERRRORRR5 жыл бұрын
"How exciting!" That's probably the most british thing I've heard today.
@cyberlizardcouk7 жыл бұрын
agreed on the usb3 matter. that would make an amazing difference.
@semperparatus36855 жыл бұрын
Professor, Where can I download that yellow box with the three black arrows so I can spped up my computer to ridiculous speed or is that a secret time compression prgm available only to CompSci Profs???
@Butterfingers19897 жыл бұрын
Sir, i simply love your videos and how clear you all this stuff. On a normal pc i know how to find my way but with these little one board computers i have to learn alot. Thanks for helping me in all this. Keep up the good work !
@Demanufacturer6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your vids. Have watched many videos, always well executed and with the correct thought process. Keep it up!
@ExplainingComputers6 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@rickdacosta18893 жыл бұрын
Use of PINN explained would be an excellent resource for newbies like myself
@jonmoore16145 жыл бұрын
Of note - newer units that go out have this setting already set (purchased mine Nov 2018)
@ExplainingComputers5 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is true -- the Raspberry Pi 3 B+ and A+ are preset for this; so this video covers what is necessary for a Pi 3 B only.
@bluehornet67526 жыл бұрын
Your command line history is written to the .bash_history file when you exit, so that's why it's still "in the buffer"... Awesome selection of videos on your channel by the way--very educational and helpful stuff!
@ExplainingComputers6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! :)
@bluehornet67526 жыл бұрын
No problem. I've been working on my Linux certification and my brain is full of (seemingly) useless little factoids that occasionally come in handy. Now trying to learn sed and awk. Great tools but confusing to learn...ugh. By the way--I also checked out some of the videos on your other channel. AMAZING how well those are, especially the ones about mining on asteroids and settling on the moon. Very impressive!
@E3Property5 жыл бұрын
Please try this on your Raspberry Pi 4 with USB3, it would be very interesting to know if it becomes a truly usable desktop.
@Trashpanda55685 жыл бұрын
i was just about to suggest this!
@alerey43635 жыл бұрын
indeed he made a correct prediction with usb3 in the recent pi4!
@ExplainingComputers5 жыл бұрын
Currently the USB 3.0 ports on the Pi 4B are not bootable. But they have promised a future software upgrade to make this so. :)
@E3Property5 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers Of course you are right but it can boot from an SD whilst loading most of the OS and applications from an SSD. I hope this will make it a truly usable desktop computer.
@ellooku7 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful update. I tried that before and no luck. Will try again after update.
@JasonPhillips307 жыл бұрын
You're a knowledgeable and well spoken man. Thanks for sharing!
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@mradaChris6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this video. I see that my goal of getting a R-Pi3 to boot in less than 2-3 seconds is an unreality!
@robertpendergast26207 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I have been interested in bypassing the SD card. (I think I will wait until it is perfected though and no longer dangerous to my Pi setup.)
@RightToSelfDefense6 жыл бұрын
Wow. This should really help developers who are putting Android or Java, or large apps on their Raspberry that require more memory than a Flash memory card.
@KuntalGhosh7 жыл бұрын
They should add some sata ports to the next version of raspberry pi!! It would be great if there is m.2 x4 pic slot for ultra fasf data transfer...
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
Next week here I will be looking at an SBC with a SATA port and two M.2 slots . . .
@KuntalGhosh7 жыл бұрын
ExplainingComputers 2x m.2 rip!!! M.2 sata or m.2 pci express 4x?
@josedourado37477 жыл бұрын
ExplainingComputers udoo x86 ultra would be awesome
@clangerbasher7 жыл бұрын
For a while now I said the Foundation should build an enthusiast's board with SATA and a lot of RAM etc. as an additional income stream to fund other cheaper lines.
@Shmoozo557 жыл бұрын
@ExplainingComputers I'm very much looking forward to that next video. I'm guessing that an SBC with those types of storage attachment ports could have a relatively powerful processor, a fast ethernet port and maybe even USB 3.0 ports as well.
@neelstheron32525 жыл бұрын
Now that we have the Pi4, this will now become very interesting doing this!
@ExplainingComputers5 жыл бұрын
Right now, the Pi 4B cannot boot from USB. But they have promised an upgrade.
@chimeranzl91475 жыл бұрын
how exciting, hahaa, love it. It should be noted that doing this with a SATA or SAS drive may not work, as the Rpi can't provide enough power out it's USB port to power those drives
@MarkTheMorose7 жыл бұрын
A neat way of circumventing the write cycle death of flash-based media, if one were to use an 'old fashioned' rotating rust hard drive.
@asphixmx7 жыл бұрын
Some hard disk won't boot. Some usb-sata adapters won't let boot either. Don't be surprised if you try and the pi doesn't boot. I made some experiments with this and found even some USB pen drives boot, some doesn't. The same to the usb-sata adapters.
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
Useful feedback, thanks.
@pedroramonalmeida9186 жыл бұрын
I am trying so hard to boot from my SSD OCZ 480GB or my WD blue 512 GB but only the usb flash drive 8GB from china work with the raspberian Stretch. For the SSD ans WD I user a Orico adapter also another one adaptet usb 2.0 with dedicated power supply. Do you think the problem can be the supply current to ssd or hdd?
@harveyharbicht49594 жыл бұрын
I like your videos and the laid-back way you get excited.
@harveyharbicht49594 жыл бұрын
Normal person: Yahoo Yippy Whoo hoo yeah! This guy: Well, that's quite nice, isn't it?
@JerryDoe7 жыл бұрын
probably much easier installing raspbian onto the sd and remap /etc, /usr, /home to the SDD then your system boot speed isnt affected by the bottleneck, easier installation and your data is also safe on the SSD make an image from the SD after re-configuring the folders and you have a fresh install ready to restore if anything happens to it
@stillfindingmyway7 жыл бұрын
As others have said, getting the Pi to boot from an USB Hard drive can be hard work. I managed to get my USB Hard drive to work as a boot device by installing Raspbian on it using NOOBs - a SD card is required to be in place all the time with this approach, but the Pi quickly switches to the USB hard drive once it starts up.
@mayankshigaonker77255 жыл бұрын
Lucky for Chris the raspberry pi 4 has a USB 3.0 Port
@ExplainingComputers5 жыл бұрын
Indeed! But sadly, it is not yet bootable on the Pi 4B, unlike on the Pi 3B and 3B+ . . .
@christiaansteenkamp56175 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers Awww man I was about to ask you if it works on the pi4. I just finished writing burning raspian to a ssd...
@RightToSelfDefense7 жыл бұрын
You make excellent example and tutorial videos. A true lesson in all forms of Pedagogy.
@tibssy19825 жыл бұрын
If you are running linux on that laptop to write the image to drive, why don't you use just dd?
@tetsujin_1445 жыл бұрын
One of the benefits the etcher site mentions is that it's a cross-platform tool. I think that makes it a good choice for a video like this, where the audience may not be running Linux on their laptop or desktop machines
@AdamJee9236 жыл бұрын
Such great videos sir. I'm brand new to all of this, learnt to and built my gaming rig ( first build ) end of last year and I have just bought a Raspberry Pi 3 model B ( Perfect time to buy in on one! ) and you videos help so thank you, keep doing what you are doing.
@ufohunter36887 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Thanks. Why hasn't some one figured out a way to use the CSI ports to come up with a USB 3.0 daughter board for the Pi ? The hardware is there for high bandwidth transfer! You might even be able to emulate 2 x USB 3.0 ports by muxing! That would be awesome.
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
It would be awesome indeed! :)
@Commsprepper5 жыл бұрын
I ran the vecgencmd otp_dump | grep 17 command and the return was all ready 302.... Is USB boot now standard with Raspberry PI 3 B+ units?
@ExplainingComputers5 жыл бұрын
It is indeed -- you only have to do this with the 3B, not the 3B+.
@AOBAboOmer7 жыл бұрын
I have raspberry pi 3 but I can't understand all of code , it is complex 😡😡😡😡😡
@felipeportela56935 ай бұрын
6 years, I guess you learned it
@mnikproАй бұрын
@@felipeportela5693I would have...
@felipeportela5693Ай бұрын
@@mnikproI made this comment 4 months ago and still learning JS lol
@mnikproАй бұрын
@@felipeportela5693 at least it's not 6 years...
@felipeportela5693Ай бұрын
@@mnikpro I'd be so frustrated if after 6 years I was still not able to understand the full code, it is complex and all but 6 years are a lot of time
@ry_man7 жыл бұрын
I hope the foundation are planning a Pi 4 for the start of next year! I think the next release will make it so much faster. I wouldn't mind if there was a slight price increase if it ment getting higher performance!
@freesaxon68357 жыл бұрын
I tried this on my raspberry pie, and it baked it (^^) :-) Interesting development thanks
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
Oh dear! :(
@figjoy7 жыл бұрын
Before April I was doing this by editing cmdline.txt on the SD to boot from a USB flash drive, but that no longer seems to work on a fresh install of the latest version of Jessie... I'm now booting to an SSD and running Seafile praying for more memory and USB 3 on the next iteration!
@JohnSmith-bh4zx5 жыл бұрын
Hi, would this be possible with the Raspberry Pi 4? If so could you do a video showing how?
@ExplainingComputers5 жыл бұрын
Not yet possible on a Pi 4. USB boot is promised for a future update . . . I will certainly cover it in a video when the update is released.
@Liam-B6 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Now I can have more storage for my DEC VT520/RPi project. It's called the CreamPi
@XarilaosXatzivasiliou6 жыл бұрын
or run berryboot and load any OS from any usb device
@onnozweers4 жыл бұрын
Berryboot is awesome. It still needs an SD to boot, though.
@thomascott74257 жыл бұрын
Mister Barnatt, as usual, a great video on a terrific topic. I want to tell you that I look forward to your next postings. Now I can only wait for 2018 for the Pi 4 and hopefully, it will have not only a USB 3 but with luck something faster s well. Thank you. 73
@odieodie89055 жыл бұрын
You I can trust Thanks for all of your insight💡
@DavidJJJ7 жыл бұрын
Excellent! So good that we can finally boot from something other than sd!
@basilsunnyalukka44917 жыл бұрын
Love the videos. Why don't you make a video on making a quadcopter using raspberry pi
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
What a great idea! :)
@basilsunnyalukka44917 жыл бұрын
ExplainingComputers thank you sir. :)
@basilsunnyalukka44917 жыл бұрын
I saw a PDF file based on making it using pi zero. you can Google it if u want it.
@USMCDAD477 жыл бұрын
Why not a video on using a Pi to make a Time Machine?
@onnozweers7 жыл бұрын
To build a time machine, you'll need a Raspberry Omega 5729 which would be released in the year 6485. Unfortunately, humanity will have destroyed itself before that time, delaying the release infinitely. They will be available in some parallel universes though.
@DrRChandra7 жыл бұрын
Sure, Mr. Barnatt, by default the last 1000 lines of shell history is stored in $HOME/.bash_history . It gets written when the shell is closed. It's also handy to do an incremental search in reverse by typing Ctrl-R then start typing part of the line you want to recall. Once you see the line, any cursor movement key will do, such as Ctrl-A to go to the beginning, Ctrl-E to the end, etc. While still searching for your previous command line, you can type Ctrl-R repeatedly to recall other command lines with the string you typed. Hope that helps.
@Cardcaptor.Zakura7 жыл бұрын
What is the SATA adapter you are using, and where can I find it? I need a proper one since my current USB SATA adapter is from an external hard disk.
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
The one I used came "free" with a Samsung SSD some years ago. Any SATA to USB adapter should work -- the trick, if you are buying one for a Pi, is not spending too much for a USB 3.0 one (which will work, but the Pi only has USB 2.0). So something like this on Amazon (which happens to be USB 3) should be fine: www.amazon.com/Tuscom-Super-Speed-USB-3-0/dp/B01MTCMNAL/ref=sr_1_12?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1502027806&sr=1-12&keywords=usb%2B2.0%2BSATA%2Badapter&th=1 Note that if you want to connect a HDD to a Pi, rather than an SSD, that your adapter will need a means of powering the drive, as a Pi cannot power an HDD, only an SSD.
@igfoobar5 жыл бұрын
Another option is to move the root filesystem to USB and leave /boot on the SD card. You can use the smallest card you have, because /boot is only a few hundred megabytes and is only used during boot-up anyway. This method works on any Pi.
@ExplainingComputers5 жыл бұрын
Good point. The new Pi 3 B+ and A+ also boot natively from USB (ie they have the setting activated in this video set as standard).
@TotoFrancey7 жыл бұрын
I liked this video, but I couldn't help but think that this whole single board computing thing has started to lose its original focus. If Chris hadn't made this video, then I'm sure somebody else would have. When single board computing started, especially with the introduction of the Raspberry Pi line, the intent was to encourage the user to develop applications in which the board could do something besides desktop computing. Given the small size this became much easier than before. What I see happening is the Raspberry Pi line (with the exception of the Raspberry Pi Zero) and other lines of single board computers (they're all guilty here) is that companies are creating devices which are becoming single board desktop or laptop computers. Something to check the Facebook with. The problem is with us, the user. We are just not creative or innovative enough to come up with the multitude of applications the single board computer could be used for. When I studied electronics for a second time in the early 1980's in a community college atmosphere (the first time was in the mid 1950s and it primarily involved fixing vacuum tube televisions and radios) I wrote an assembly language program for the 8088 processor which would run a series of eight traffic lights in a small town. At the time I was blown away with how small yet powerful electronics had become. Today they are so much smaller and so much more powerful, yet in my opinion we could be doing so much more than to use them to communicate or entertain ourselves. In a way I am hoping the next generation of Raspberry Pi doesn't have a USB 3.0 or SATA port onboard. more memory and a stronger processor would be nice and maybe an on/off switch. But if the Raspberry Pi Foundation doesn't put the USB 3.0 or SATA port on then I am sure some other company will. Keep up the good work Chris.
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great post. You make a really great point. The Pi, and at least some other SBCs, were initially intended to let people experiment, and to do as you say other kinds of computing stuff. But a lot of users now use SBCs for "traditional" purposes. So the SBC world will, I think, split -- into higher end devices that are more like desktop PCs (but also useful for things like robotics), and lower cost devices that maybe people will (or will not!) experiment with for IoT and other purposes. This said, even when set up as a "desktop" PC, the Pi still allows people to experiment with computing in a way they dare not do with their traditional laptop or desktop. And some people here do report using a Pi or similar SBC as a traditional computer. Next week's video may also stir things up at bit, as I am reviewing an UDOOx86 Advanced Plus -- a powerful SBC with a great many operating system and connectivity and boot options . . . and this gets us back into traditional desktop territory, even though that is not (alone) the purpose of the board. :)
@anullhandle7 жыл бұрын
An on/off switch would be nice but USB3 a/o SATA and a LAN port that isn't throttled would be nice for say a cheap NAS solution. What do you think a rpi4 should look like, something that encourages more physical computing?
@alessandrotrezza377 жыл бұрын
TotoFrancey just google rpi project and you will be amazed about how many awesome ad various project has been made whit rpi. One of those is also "transform" it to a "desktop" computer. I don't think that is stopping the progress of SBC is the solution of the problem you mentioned. In this moment i can't think a good way to use usb3 or sata in particular project, but I'm sure that many people will do. 👍 You can still buy an Arduino 😉😉
@jlewwis19957 жыл бұрын
ExplainingComputers What are the specs of the Udoo like? Also what are the boot option? Since it's an x86 board (is it actually x86 or is it 64 bit) does it come with Windows built in or does it not come with an os like the pi?
@doc81256 жыл бұрын
I really do not understand the problem ... so what if raspberry PIs are getting more like computers? You still have the ability to tinker with it, but users like me can still use it for media stuff. There is no reason for it to not work for both instences. Me personally would love to see a 3.0 port or maby even a SATA port for me to able to use it for my use case, but i see no reason for that to harm you in any way, since you will still be able to tinker with it all you like
@Hex-Mas4 жыл бұрын
This video was very informative. Explaines better then others on youtube. Thanks.
@VINAYAKTARE07 жыл бұрын
For booting for the first time,, sd or usb required ... my query is whether for the next time the sd card will be required for the booting or not ?
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
No, the SD card is not required for booting on any occasion (if you have a USB device inserted with an OS installed). What you saw int he final segment was a cold boot, without an SD card, and this is how it boots each time. :)
@thecaptain22817 жыл бұрын
This was really cool! Didn't know you had to jump through any hoops to get it booting to USB though.
@LAHHZE7 жыл бұрын
Your speed is still bottlenecked by USB 2.0. No point running it from SSD without SATA or PCie port.
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
Granted, though an SSD is less likely to corrupt than an SD card. More generally, the ability to use a USB thumb drive rather than a micro SD card could be useful on occasion. I just went to the extreme here! :)
@xWood40007 жыл бұрын
He could be running it with USB 3.1 gen 2 if the raspberry pi had it.
@amshermansen7 жыл бұрын
As EC points out the reasoning here is more to avoid SD Card wear and eventually death, in exchange for a much more robust drive. Sure the SSD won't run at its peak speeds, but it also won't need an external power supply, which your run of the mill 2,5" Mechanical drive will. But that's easily done if you want to put that in your case.
@figjoy7 жыл бұрын
Actually, in my experience, it does need an external power supply. I use a powered hub.
@amshermansen7 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the charger you're using for the PI is underdimensioned to give each USB port the amps they need. SSDs can run on single USB2 no problem.
@briianhebert7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, great info as always. I too look forward to RasPi having USB 3
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
:)
@tractorman77337 жыл бұрын
I like your channel !!!
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
:)
@stutz18477 жыл бұрын
but you still got the SSD-Cache or am i wrong?
@seans11027 жыл бұрын
This is great because it keeps things portable.
@NullPointer11007 жыл бұрын
Now your SSD is limited by the speed of USB2.0.
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
Indeed it is.
@jasonlisonbee7 жыл бұрын
How much can this be mitigated by a compressing file system? Which would be the best option to do so?
@md_vandenberg7 жыл бұрын
Alex, I run a USB2 external HDD, which contains my Steam library. It takes about 30 seconds longer for a game to boot up, compared to when that same drive was in my laptop. 30 whole seconds. Yeah, it's terrible. /s
@USMCDAD477 жыл бұрын
I run my pihole with a USB 200Gb drive I salvaged out of a dead laptop...been running like that for months and months...I don't mind it taking a few more seconds to boot.
@thomascott74257 жыл бұрын
I like seeing that someone besides my self still remembers MAX. I feel that tv show was perhaps too far ahead of itself. I feel that the audience could not grasp the concept. IMHO, Cheers.
@infidelgermany7 жыл бұрын
This video came just right! I fried my first SD card 2 days ago while playing a browser game for a bit to long...
@adarshsingh7647 жыл бұрын
Now I can die in peace.
@gene43907 жыл бұрын
If you did not want to toggle the boot bit. I believe you could also change/point the boot loader on the sdcard to load Rasbian off of the SSD/USB.
@retrogameplus38387 жыл бұрын
Hello good sir! apt-get is now apt I told you in a previous comment! I will start grading you down!!! In all seriousness keep up the good content and thank you
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
You will have to tell and grade down the Raspberry Pi Foundation too . . .
@retrogameplus38387 жыл бұрын
I know =( It's not a big deal at all and matters very little but for some reason I feel the need to let people know about the change.
@h311sb311s7 жыл бұрын
apt actually does a better job I think. apt-get still works but apt is colorized in some areas to help you focus on the what's currently happening, such as the overall download progress for the group of packages being updated; in other words it's more user friendly. Try 'man apt-get' and 'man apt' to see the general differences.
@gorillaau7 жыл бұрын
Wayne Dinsmore There is also apitude which is very similar to apt-get and apt (I haven't played with apt though). The trick is that if something isn't installed by defauly, I'm releunctant to learn it. Apt-get is everywhere, right?
@h311sb311s7 жыл бұрын
I didn't know about aptitude. The man page says it's a 'high-level interface to the package manager'. I dug a little deeper and it seems to be an interface that uses curses (poor man's GUI), which also explains why the program is so much larger. Time to try something new (maybe after I'm done playing with my new ESP32-WROVER-KIT). The following lists show the various apt. apt-get, and aptitude programs. Take particular note of the symbolic links and also that it implies aptitude is an alternative to apt or apt-get. pi@RPi3-2:~ $ ls -l /usr/bin/apt* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 13832 Dec 13 2016 /usr/bin/apt -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 100008 Dec 13 2016 /usr/bin/apt-cache -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 26092 Dec 13 2016 /usr/bin/apt-cdrom -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 17848 Dec 13 2016 /usr/bin/apt-config -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 22060 Dec 13 2016 /usr/bin/apt-extracttemplates -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 206604 Dec 13 2016 /usr/bin/apt-ftparchive -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 120428 Dec 13 2016 /usr/bin/apt-get lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Jul 5 06:36 /usr/bin/aptitude -> /etc/alternatives/aptitude -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1939 Jun 9 2014 /usr/bin/aptitude-create-state-bundle -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3738328 Jun 15 2014 /usr/bin/aptitude-curses -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2850 Jun 9 2014 /usr/bin/aptitude-run-state-bundle -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 11740 Dec 13 2016 /usr/bin/apt-key -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8742 Oct 12 2014 /usr/bin/apt-listchanges -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 42548 Dec 13 2016 /usr/bin/apt-mark -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 30200 Dec 13 2016 /usr/bin/apt-sortpkgs pi@RPi3-2:~ $ ls /etc/alternatives/aptitude* aptitude aptitude.de.8.gz aptitude.fr.8.gz aptitude.ja.8.gz aptitude.8.gz aptitude.es.8.gz aptitude.gl.8.gz aptitude.pl.8.gz aptitude.cs.8.gz aptitude.fi.8.gz aptitude.it.8.gz pi@RPi3-2:~ $ ls -l /etc/alternatives/aptitude lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 Jul 5 06:36 /etc/alternatives/aptitude -> /usr/bin/aptitude-curses
@perrymcclusky46957 жыл бұрын
Cool! That was easy to understand. Thanks! I look forward to whatever you do next week!
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
:)
@sidharthcs21107 жыл бұрын
Second
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
Silver. :)
@mzr1der5 жыл бұрын
By the time I came to look at this the Raspberry Pi 3B+ was out and the latest Raspbian was released in November 2018. I had been trying to get an old 80GB Intel SSD (the non-cut down version of the 40gB in the video) to be the boot media for an RPi 3B+ for ages. No combination of
@ExplainingComputers5 жыл бұрын
You are right, this video is just for the Raspberry Pi 3B, not the 3B+, which has this enabled by default.
@beans84897 жыл бұрын
First
@sidharthcs21107 жыл бұрын
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@beans84897 жыл бұрын
sidharth cs Gg :D
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
Gold Metal to Legitning! :)
@beans84897 жыл бұрын
ExplainingComputers Time to add it to my collection, well its very small.
@toepunch0017 жыл бұрын
That's what she said!
@XenoContact6 жыл бұрын
I think an external drive connected via the slow(compared to microSD connection) usb interface is best suited for a NAS project-which I am currently working on btw- rather than using it for the OS itself.
@josecarlosxyz5 жыл бұрын
this is looking promising, sd cards are very prone to corruption and overheating.
@NortelGeek4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this most informative video, Mr. Barnatt. Always a pleasure!
@th3l0n3w0lf6 жыл бұрын
i am from singapore and i must say that is an awesome wallpaper
@ExplainingComputers6 жыл бұрын
It is supplied as part of the latest Raspbian image! :)
@FGQuinto4 жыл бұрын
exactly what i was looking for!! thanks so much. i worked right along with you and jobs done!
@ExplainingComputers4 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@timnixon28896 жыл бұрын
I added a SSD (el-cheapo 60GB) and it works great..Even used etcher.. In my case I took my 32GB sd card from the pi with everything I wanted already on it and used win32diskimager to capture it then wrote it using etcher. After boot on the SSD I needed to find how to expand the filesystem to the full 60GB..since raspi-config complained about it not being a sd card.. but I found this on google and it worked great cp /usr/bin/raspi-config ~ sed -i 's/mmcblk0p/sda/' ~/raspi-config sed -i 's/mmcblk0/sda/' ~/raspi-config sudo ~/raspi-config Then under advanced you can expand the file system BTW LOVING YOUR VIDEOS and one 'older' person to another.. been working with computers since the late1970's ;) Think IMSAI-8080
@ExplainingComputers6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Great to hear of your positive SD card to SSD migration.
@BenMitro6 жыл бұрын
The capitalised Y in Y/n means that is the default - no need for the "y" entry, just hit enter. Having said that, I like the certainty of hitting "y" too. :) thanks for the info.
@norcal61817 жыл бұрын
Just an FYI, you don't have to use the get in apt-get anymore. You can use the more up to date command which is just 'sudo apt update' and 'sudo apt upgrade'
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
Yes, I keep forgetting that. Though "apt-get" has more options (not that I am using them!), so "apt" is not actually a replacement for "apt get", more of an alternative. As I understand it, "apt get" is not being depreciated. But I could be wrong!
@Oberroxxor7 жыл бұрын
Booting of USB was possible before. Just more tedious ;) Good that the made this easier!
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
As far as I am aware it was not possible to fully boot off USB before the Raspberry Pi Foundation made this update. You could install the OS on a USB drive, but you still had to have an SD card in the Pi to get to a boot utility (such as BerryBoot) that then picked up the OS from another media. And that is still the way to go in some situations where you want multibooting.
@amshermansen7 жыл бұрын
Yep - It still relied on the SD card for initial bootloading.
@Huzzahgamers_inc7 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that a USB 2.0 connected drive is limited to around 60MBps where as an SDcard is typically limited to around 19MBps. An SSD has far better life expectancy than an SD-Card. No matter the argument, the USB solution is far better than using a sd-card. a nvme would be preferable, but for now, this is an excellent solution.
@AK-gt8zy6 жыл бұрын
I love this guy. He explains everything so WELL.
@vgamesx17 жыл бұрын
Neat, I have the same Intel SSD, I bought mine second hand super cheap at about $12.
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
You got a good deal! :)
@ninline20003 жыл бұрын
Here I am, over 3 years later, googling how to USB boot an Rpi 3 and up pops Explaining Computers. I should have known. Funny thing is, I just installed Raspbian on my 3B + and it is already configured for USB boot from installation.
@lorderectus18492 жыл бұрын
Oooo he’s booting from raspberry pi 3 with ssd!
@delmonti7 жыл бұрын
Another well produced & written vid.
@ExplainingComputers7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! :)
@TheSkogemann7 жыл бұрын
Here is a one-liner if you want to upgrade your pi fully (Or any debian dists) Beware to save all your things before running this as it will reboot with no warning. - apt update && apt upgrade -y && apt-get autoremove -y && reboot
@tpobrienjr6 жыл бұрын
And it actually worked! Amazing.
@rivertees Жыл бұрын
Thanks again, the second time today your tutorials have helped me.
@ExplainingComputers Жыл бұрын
:)
@galihpa7 жыл бұрын
Hi ExplainingComputers, please do more raspberry pi videos. I really like them.