Final Fantasy 14's 20 HOUR Speedrun

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[@bunpr5662]

congrats on the pb btw! hearing you say you wanted to eat raw beef pattys sounds a lot less weird now that i know what jamaican beef pattys are XD also saw this pop up a couple times so now's my time to be a big nerd about things o_o "Wouldnt playing as a tenk be faster?" It's potentially the fastest but runs into the issues below: 1. limsa's start is the slowest (4-5ish minutes slower than gridania?) as well as being the most expensive so it cripples WAR a bit. 2. ul'dah is the fastest start but the paladin questline is slower than warriors and you have to do all of it to unlock Hallowed Ground 3. stone vigil is the roughest dungeon in ARR n you want a WAR for this as they're the the only tenk to have access to their invuln for the dungeon and every MRD/WAR will have it. 4. tenk queue times arent very consistent. So any time saved from using aoes and pulling wtws will very quickly bleed away at some point. 5. while you can pull wtw on tenk, its very risky for potentially being the worst geared party member. 6. you cant really salvage or prevent wipes as a tank. If the healer dies, they're gone (ignoring any SMNs) and it becomes a dps race. If tank dies in a big wall to wall, (and this triggers tf out of me XDD) the rest of the party WILL try to recover by comboing swiftcast+rez into immediately dying cos there's no way a third of the dungeon can melt them away faster than the tank can gain control of their character. I hate that kiting mobs back to spawn where you can find a completely fresh tenk with plenty of kiting room is considered evil >:( 7. you can take out as many class quests from CNJ/WHM as you want and get away with it as healing gets a lot easier after stone vigil while the difficulty of tanking pretty much stays the same or gets worse if you're main tanking.

[@rathgames]

Thank you for all the help once again, and the info on why Tank is slower is incredibly appreciated.

[@bunpr5662]

no problem! ^_^7! probably made tenk sound a bit worse than it actually is but yee lol

[@ChewiiCrumbz]

jamaican beef patties are SO GOOD, esp the spicy ones!!

[@MissingNovice]

Since one of the caveats is you cant have a premade party unless all of you are submitting a run together, would the best party makeup for a team run be a tank and then 3 DPS? Perhaps 3 summoners since they all get raise?

[@ncpolley]

Res on the spot and kite back? Time save, ime. The tank drops stance, sprints to catch up to you, and you can drop a few OGCD heals as they turn tank stance back on and you reset.

[@Acrysalis]

A - Always in the belly B - Belly C - C you in the belly

[@GodammmitKalcour]

Rath learned the great Healer Mentality of "If the tank has more than 1HP, they're not dead and I can DPS"

[@RicardoSantos-oz3uj]

Great mantra if you got a 15 ms ping to the server.

[@sylpheeddashstep488]

I know I'm late to this video, but the healer that rescued you in WoD was actually breaking the animation lock on the LB3 so you could continue casting! Very underrated mechanic that doesn't get used often outside of savage/ultimates.

[@Xbob42]

Yeah, I always rescue folks who are using LB, those several extra seconds of standing there is downtime no one needs!

[@komurmaldeb]

Fun fact: Hrothgar also start with 23 mind, but have the added bonus of starting with 23 vitality as well! Will that HP make any difference? Probably not, but they *are* optimal. In fact, paired with their 23 strength this means Hrothgar are the optimal starting race for all healers, all tanks, and all non-ninja melee dps!

[@rathgames]

Oooo I didnt know hroth had 23 mind. I just knew the vit. Thats super cool

[@DLane814]

Wouldn’t broth be illegal for the same reason switching to SAM would be illegal?

[@iwersonsch5131]

@@DLane814 Only if we believed that starting substats actually mattered, I imagine. Queue times are a much bigger factor

[@nerdychocobo]

@@DLane814 can always just split it as a separate category, for people who own hrothgar vs people who don't, so it's not unfair

[@Xbob42]

@@nerdychocobo You could probably spend the rest of your life in a DPS/healing test chamber and never be able to measure the difference the starting stats make vs. margin of error or even spell variance per cast.

[@EdgeKisaragi]

You can… rent… a chocobo…. Ten years. I didn’t know. I thought it was only porters. 💀

[@rathgames]

The 24hr stream came with some audio issues so I apologize for the occasional pops. I hope you enjoy all the same

[@ladyellen7993]

Didn’t even notice bby

[@nerdychocobo]

this is incredible, getting 10th on your first speedrun is truly awesome

[@wolfstar124]

A small timesave on some of the forced cutscenes would be setting language to either JP or French, a full party of JP-cutscene in prae alone saves about a full minute across the dungeon

[@definitelyzeblackcat743]

Just shows how low effort mmo speedruns are if there needs to be little to no homework done on what actually makes you go through a game faster and just yolo it and hope rng is in your favour.

[@KingCloudsCape]

@@definitelyzeblackcat743 "low effort" lol if it was low effort he wouldn't have gotten tenth place because there'd be tons of people higher than him. Luck is a factor in every speed run.

[@MasterCookies]

@@definitelyzeblackcat743 they are simply not optimized because how many people will suffer 20 hours speedruns

[@emperorshark888]

Another possible time save is forcing a dc during the cutscene. I've had this happen with a power blip with the PC shutting off, once I got back in all the other players were still in cutscene but I could start the fight with Livia if I wanted to. Granted as a healer maybe starting a boss fight isn't the smartest move but if you can squeak out damage and survive when the others get out it might just work(?)

[@wolfstar124]

@@emperorshark888 If you do that it's a reportable offense and is considered an exploit, that's why you'll only ever see it in premades

[@weberman173]

funfact, if you have either a smart person or a total idiot with you in copperbell, you can save time on the last pull by simply having someone who dosnt have aggro start the boss fight and then get teleported in after the 15 second mark, the mobs loose aggro at that point

[@Naixatloz]

This is also one of two possible strats for synced Aurum Vale, for people who are into single-dungeon runs.

[@BeckyScottFairley]

If you want to watch more of these speedruns - "Really Really Long a thon" (a speedrun marathon of running really really long games.) did an FF XIV ALL MSQ run in 68:01:42 going from creating a character to the end of Endwalker. When 6.55 releases in January someone will attempt to do everything.

[@freezinater]

Goodness how did one person manage that live?! Or was it split across multiple runners?

[@piapia-xm5bc]

is this how i realize the one who gave you the ct quest was nero in disguise.. how did that not click to me after 2 years of playing this game amazing run btw such a fun video as always!

[@MezzoForte4]

As someone who's playing through the game for the first time, I've not even reached that point yet and but thanks for the spoiler! 😅 I also now know that some quests are locked out if you don't do the Hard Primals??? Or something?

[@dralakba-dusk31]

BRUUUUUUH FOR REAL 😮

[@Saintlel]

Duty Support also scales to your personal damage, runs will always average to 20-25 minutes depending on the dungeon even if you blast

[@nip3004]

There is another major advantage to running as a healer. You are the largest factor in how big the dungeon pulls can be. Especially in ARR dungeons before tanks get all the self sustain. Knowing that you'll never get stuck with a new healer means faster dungeons

[@trashcan9085]

So glad this came out! I fell asleep a little before castrum and haven’t watched the vod so it was nice to see what I missed. Congrats on the run!

[@rathgames]

Thank you :'^)

[@jakikazu]

11:28 Turns out you've been speedrunning ever since you were a kid. Beef Patty%. What a show of pure dominance. Just cronchin along

[@dddaaa6965]

I am lonely

[@cattysplat]

Sounds like a great way for broken teeth.

[@Scorchlette]

yooo, the SSR Golden Gaius pull made it into the video! It was lovely being there for the time I was. And congrats on 10th place Rath!

[@HayTatsuko]

What a phenomenal run! And yes, the Burning Wall stinks. I hate going there without a flying mount. Being able to launch straight up out of Drybone is nice, too. No more guessing which exit to use!

[@Capoodle]

Someone probably answered the 9:59 question already, but pilots can "make up time" through a number of ways: from slipping certain "waypoints" (akanswitching to direct routing) to tailwinds pushing the plane along a little faster.

[@nitemare1004]

i overheard a convo in game where a guy said that he went from ARR to finishing SHB in about 24 hours (this was like a half a year before EW came out). when someone asked "how tf did you do that?" he just said skip all cutscenes whenever possible, teleport a lot, and sprint as much as you can in areas where you can't mount. and to test this theory I made a new whm character and speedran ff14. played on PC with a controller. unfortunately I fell asleep towards the end of 2nd part of SB and gave up because I didn't feel like attempting it again (for now). i might try again before DT and see how long it takes. your run was amazing!!

[@Elendrial]

Grats on the run! I really enjoyed the small amount I could watch live, and this was a great condensed version ^-^

[@callmezeldaonemoartime]

Accidentally doing the Odin questline was peak

[@MrMightyZ]

I’ve just started this game. I’ve been warned so I’m ready to grind and not expecting much until level 50. But no one warned me about that scaling harp! I think if I hear that harp scale up and down another 20 or 30 times I’m going to have to slam my own head in a door! It’s just the kind of scale a harpist might do to warm up and check the instrument’s tune so I guess the sound guys heard it and said “YEAH! Just do that a few times” And the harpist was like “But that’s just how I warm up…” “No! It’s great! Just keep doing it!”

[@rainbowpandafish]

When a confident tank is told they can do big pulls 'tis a thing of beauty.

[@jedimasterpickle3]

Heyyy congrats on the speedrun! I imagine that the mods were probably a bit lenient since it wasn't a WR submission, and your livesplit kept going, but it must have been a relief to see your run accepted anyway.

[@cattysplat]

Speedrunning an MMO is next level masochism, well played rath, you are very aero dynamis.

[@AlalaCrisp]

Been following since you started the solo series. Every time a video is uploaded it makes me smile. 😃Keep going strong, Rath.

[@nenybuns]

What a wild ride to behold! Major congrats to this speed run! I never thought of FFXIV as a speedrunnable(?) game, but this video got me SO HOOKED :) The charming and relaxed way you handled your run and narrate it was rly enjoyable. Thank you for sharing it with us!!

[@rathgames]

Thats very kind of you to say :'^) Im glad you enjoyed

[@killianmartin7501]

I really appreciate the dragon quest ost, thank you for that

[@astrobull1274]

Somehow, with all the crazy challenge runs you’ve done, hearing that you used to eat beef pasties frozen is the most insane thing you’ve done.

[@Feniiku]

i popped in during the stream a few times, it was fun to watch :) ggs on your 10th place zoomies!

[@vincentbeton]

Had I not been subscribed already, that Werewolf Joke probably would've done it for me. So stupid, so good

[@sur7969]

that rescue out of healer LB is beautiful

[@Zaadin19]

You continue to be completely awe inspiring. Keep up the good work!

[@Lyu-Phy]

This is just testament to how massive this game is, even speedrunning it takes ages. It's also not including the expansions, absolutely crazy. Yeah it's an MMO and you walk all the time but instances alone take a ton of time as well.

[@AnyaKneezz]

I remember doing praetorium right before I had to go to work bc I figured I could get the scenarios out of the way and was able to get my party to rush our way through in about 20 minutes, just in time to log off and sprint for my car. Best ffxiv experience ive ever had, talking about pizza toppings and getting anxious while waiting with everything in japanese to speed up the process

[@cigaaaaaaa]

Grats on the run! This was really entertaining to watch.

[@kirasaji]

I love the Dragon Quest background music! Nice touch.

[@itJoss]

A bit late to the party, but I just wanted to say that I appreciate the effort put into the work order for Nero's 'chandelier'.

[@Oblivion2906]

27:50 same I didnt know moogles existed apart of KH when I was a kid 😂

[@kemix1006]

This man is multi-talented in the realm of FF14, holy crap. Also I knew he was based, Disgaea 2 enjoyers always are

[@craigwheeler4760]

Congrats on the poison dungeon speed run. That was your real achievement. You got the speedrun record for that dungeon in the process of the overall speedrun. nice work in there!

[@youtousim]

10:00 Making up time in the sky is due to the relative speed of the plane compared to rotating earth. You actually time-travel a few seconds(?) to the past. For further questions, consult Einstein.

[@RandomSkits57]

M8 I’ve been catching up on all your vids. Great stuff! You got me trying some dumb challenges myself now lmao. It’s great fun!

[@williamatkinson7373]

I just started playing ff14 a day ago, never looked up a single video and your channel just randomly popped up, definitely not disappointed, youve got yourself a fan today my friend

[@rathgames]

Thank you that's very kind :'^)

[@Medbread]

Loving the Yugioh and Bakugan references sprinkled throughout

[@Loveless387]

YO! 10th Place on your first speedrun is AMAZING! Congratz!

[@Longlius]

The most underrated lore in this vid is the solo chad being born on America's birthday. It almost feels mythical.

[@lanesandsparks]

A legendary run all around, Mr Gamer I still can't believe you didn't memorize a route and nailed a top 10 your first try! A true GOAT🎉 rip the vod, ya just had to be there :'^) GG EZ

[@ddsubvato]

Congrats on the time, tempted to try one myself as bit of an altaholic

[@nintenjoe9022]

A reference to Yu-Gi-Oh 5D's? You, sir, are a man of culture and have earned my respect all over again!

[@PrinceLukai]

I love how much you plan! your videos are fun to watch and happy late birthday!

[@tjdrones.4263]

Great to see this! Love your channel!

[@rathgames]

Thank you! That means a lot. I'm glad you enjoyed :'^)

[@Karasugou_]

watched a few of your videos but i absolutely love the usage of DQ music in them!

[@rathgames]

Thank you :'^)

[@bonedaddy7881]

Lmao, love the DQ music playing in the background during the 20 hour FF speedrun.

[@AdventurerSmithy]

That "here's the work order" actually made me lose my shit.

[@velvetbutterfly]

Fun fact, shortly after I started FFXIV, the Noctis quest was brought back and I was wanting to catch up with my girlfriend at the time so this is essentially what I did. I hated it. I'm glad you're having such fun

[@woadwarrior9857]

I don't know why, but watching you adhere to these rules makes me nostalgic for the old days of FF14 when all of this content was relevant!

[@MrMightyZ]

You ate frozen meat?? You animal! My uncle would say “you got the eye of the tiger bwoy!” I like it!

[@EldritchZoeArchive]

Looking forward to this channel pivoting into sleep-deprived Yu-Gi-Oh content

[@24hourPrince]

My first time ever seeing a moogle was in Mario Hoops 3-on-3 for the Nintendo DS :)

[@chickenfate5235]

34:30 for some reason Titan hard is absurdly difficult in comparison to literally every other ARR trial, especially for healers. There’s about a 50/50 chance you’ll get wiped once. Which I mean- isn’t that bad- but it’s unusual for ARR.

[@karameldanzen]

FINALLY, SOMEONE ELSE WHO GETS THE BAKUGAN THEME STUCK IN THEIR HEAD, I'M NOT ALONE

[@CloudyBrainsVT]

29:03 As a Yugioh nerd who also plays FFXIV, this made me very happy, you get a cookie. :D

[@rathgames]

Lets goooo

[@Georgeveen]

This guy just casually playing Dragon Quest music in a Final Fantasy run. I like it!

[@SalamiKiwami]

you are the realest streamer ive seen in my entire life

[@kelmirosue3251]

Congrats on the 13k subs!

[@karasutsuki1733]

for the leviathan song i always hear Waaaifuuu waiiiifuuu ur welcome to never unhear it now too

[@rathgames]

nooooooooooo

[@s4ad0wpi]

I 400,000% love the use of Dragon Quest music in a Final Fantasy video! It's so good! Which DQ games are you pulling from in particular? (Is it DQX for maximum Irony? That's what I would do)

[@MapleLunii]

At the very least some of the music is from 8 and 11!

[@xXYellowFlash]

Absolutely a great watch :)

[@Coolio_Ash]

Congratulations friend

[@quirkle7538]

Fastest lad in the west

[@rathgames]

Maybe one day the fastest in the east

[@ArchanDelon12]

To your comment on how airplanes make up time in the air. Just like driving a car, going too slow or too fast uses more fuel so they maintain a "cruising speed" that has the best fuel efficiency but is much lower than the max speed of the plane. A 747 for instance, has a max speed of around 700mph but generally flies at a cruising speed of around 575mph. If they are running late and have the fuel to increase the speed, they can fly faster to make up for the lost time. Also worth noting that planes capable of flying faster than 767mph are banned from doing so over land because it breaks the sound barrier and the resulting sonic boom breaks windows and damages buildings on the ground.

[@rathgames]

It breaks the what now. Thats insane. Is there a commercial passenger plane that can hit those speeds?

[@ArchanDelon12]

@@rathgamesEver been to or seen a video of an airshow where a fighter jet takes off so fast it makes a loud boom? That's the plane breaking the sound barrier, aka moving faster than the speed of sound. Sound moves at 767mph or Mach 1. That loud boom doesn't happen once, you only hear at the moment it passes by and the shockwave hits you. As long as the plane maintains speeds above the sound barrier that loud boom follows. The shockwave created by the sonic boom shakes buildings, 30k feet below the plane, hard enough that it shatters windows and can even crack the buildings foundation.

[@ArchanDelon12]

There have been dozens of planes from military aircraft, commercial flights, private jets, and cargo planes capable of flying above the sound barrier, 767mph or Mach 1. These planes are called supersonic. There are even private jets that fly at hypersonic speeds greater than Mach 5. The first commercial plane to fly at supersonic speeds was released in 1947. In 1973 the FAA banned all supersonic and hypersonic flights over land so you will only fly at those speeds while over international waters. Only the US military is allowed to break the sound barrier over the US. Many international Countries have also enacted bans on breaking the sound barrier.

[@hackermans]

7:50 I am interested in what the optimal path would be if you were bounded by Duty Support (e.g. true solo). The variance will be much lower since you will not MSQ with random players, and you would not have to wait for everyone to be ready.

[@loveofchaos]

very brave of the streamer to admit they are a monster who eats frozen frozen foods.

[@CasheerMkII]

11:06 THANK YOU, MACHINIST PRONOUNCED THE RIGHT WAY ❤❤❤

[@rathgames]

Victory for truth on this day.

[@alek4ever646]

wait wait wait wait! Totorak 7min 55sec is world record!? I have done it with complete randos during roulettes in 6min 36sec. Curses! Now I wish I had a recording of that.

[@rathgames]

Go get that world record I believe

[@sidereon9793]

Me: "oh yeah I've bum-rushed an alt past the Ultima fight in like two or three days, 20 hours sounds doable" Rath: "this speedrun requires all of the patch content" Me: "it WHAT-"

[@bailey2652]

In the future you can do more damage with casters by right clicking the boss after targeting. You'll start weaving autoattacks in-between casts. It actually assists damage by a not-insignificant amount at lower levels.

[@PeddlerOfSmiles]

This man is GAMING. Good run

[@ArcadiaP]

This was awesome!

[@spacedaydreamer]

Great run, and congrats on the pb! Just curious, have the full vods (with commentary) been reuploaded anywhere? I’d love to watch those too, tho I totally get if you havent been able to lol. Thanks for all the great vids :D

[@rathgames]

They have not, though I do have a lot of other vods up here for my other ff14 challenges :^)

[@spacedaydreamer]

@@rathgames All good, thanks for letting me know! I've been putting your other vods on a bunch while I play xiv my first time, so I was just curious ^u^ (loving the solo streams!!)

[@rathgames]

@@spacedaydreamer thaaank you :'^)

[@Scootermagrooder]

Congrats!

[@coldReactive]

I attempted this on my twitch channel myself, but I really couldn't do it. This 20+ Hours isn't messing around. I did it as DPS, because almost all of the 8-man content is Alliance Raids/Trials, which have a faster time getting in as DPS. All of the 4-man content can be solo'd with duty support. I started as Arcanist, because this would give me the desired path into Red Mage, which can be taken in an ARR Speedrun because Stormblood is part of the base game now. Red Mage gives you full 115 armor and a weapon, so it basically negates the need to get the item level 90 gear. On a legit speedrun, you will not be taken a preferred world or a Free Company, and you will not be using the Market Board. (You won't be needing any of that anyway.)

[@rathgames]

There are 2 categories for the preferred world and non preferred world, both are 'legit'. And yeah I noted that theres no free company use in the rules section at the beginning. I dont see why Arcanist is the desired path to RDM as any class could unlock red mage once it hits 50, and yeah the stormblood classes were just recently added to the rules, so if I ever went back it would be an option :^) Duty support is overwhelmingly slower than queueing in with normal people though, and the queue times for a DPS are only better on alliance raids, not 8 man trials

[@lunar6813]

The dancer in the hard Garuda probably had flashbacks to UWU lol

[@sakasil2]

That indeed does say 22 hours, total madlad right there 0:33 maybe one day I will have to try to beat that. All joking aside, there was a lot I could have done to save myself time in that run, I also got stuck waiting on a few queues for a couple hours which was just the best luck in the world. I think I went to the end of ARR at the worst possible moment, nobody was queueing for MSQ and had nearly an hour of wait time between the three Final quests there. I actually speedrun all the way to shadowbringers with new game. Good job on the speedrun though. 👍

[@rathgames]

The man himself has arrived. You were also stuck with old praetorium and castrum so I can understand a lot of it. Masterpiece.

[@sakasil2]

​@@rathgamesyou know, no better time to try this run once more. I am no KZbinr but it has been a year, and with how many damn times I have ran through ARR making alts I think I can make a better time than my old runs if not challenge your time. We will see.

[@sakasil2]

Update in the run, single segment with how queues were all run it would be impossible to get to even beat my time, with the hard primal fights that are necessary, to progress. And looking at the major cities, the number of people online was abysmal. A dead run by all rights sadly. But looking at the differences between my pre EW run and this, there is a huge amount of time save possible, from the changes EW made to ARR alone haven't even gotten to the point where flying would save time. By the start of castrum I was over an hour ahead and lost it all to waiting for dungeons and ifrit hard. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@lilleaf]

29:50 He's obviously says Fry your food

[@eruk4678]

I do the same thing with bagels. Put one in the toaster and eat another while I wait.

[@assassinofkeyblades]

You joked about snowcloaks music being the run killer but I cannot tell you how many times ive dozed off during that dungeon cause i decided to queue for one more dungeon before bed 😅

[@Jolsn]

My condolences Great video

[@mazucio3561]

Fun fact: you can skip cutscenes if you disconnect yourself and reconnect again. However for the msq dungeon, you need all 4 to do that, or AT LEAST the whm/tank so they soak damage till the other 2 dps finish cutscenes but good luck convincing them.. but that would save massive amount of time already :)

[@mazucio3561]

that's a tip for 4-people category :D

[@rathgames]

It's a super cool skip to use, the only issue would be you would have to be with a premade of 4 people. It's banable to do it in a normal party ;;

[@mazucio3561]

@@rathgames wait, actually banable? from whom? the game itself? O.o

[@rathgames]

@@mazucio3561 yeah square has banned for it before if you ruin the dungeon for a sprout by doing that, but only if they report you for it and it happens enough times

[@obamaorb7426]

Bro the yugioh 5ds and bakugan themes filled me with so much nostalgia

[@TheFrantic5]

As a healer main, I can confirm that warriors are overpowered.

[@thewitchiebunny]

if I ever see Aero Dynamis in my duty, I promise to ZOOM.

[@Jamesssssssssssssss]

Welp guess im doing ARR in one sitting too. Thanks for the inspiration

[@rathgames]

oh god please dont this hurt me to do

[@Jamesssssssssssssss]

@@rathgamesI decided to sleep so no worries haha. Though maybe a group run would be fun

[@TheValiantBob]

If you do decide to do Heavensward, what is the rule for when to resume the timer? Like can you go and grind out the other classes and gear first to prep, or does the timer start the moment you load back in with the character?

[@rathgames]

It would begin as soon as I start the first quest, I can go and do some other things within reason, but still no marketboard etc.

[@AnAverageBox]

I love this so much. Where did you get your splits? I would love to try this run.

[@rathgames]

I made them myself. Id offer to give you them but I have no idea how to :^)

[@AnAverageBox]

@@rathgames haha no worries

[@Tyler-zx7xn]

The Dragon Quest music is inspired. 10/10

[@fukurato9539]

As I have reached apoint in ffxiv where i am not sure what to do... you really make me thinking about speed running something xD

[@yamira7920]

12:00 I almost cried in disappointment