Rawalpindi ke Fasadaat jinhon ne Taqseem ki Tareekh Badal di | Sajjad Azhar

تقسیم کے وقت ہونے والے فسادات میں 10 لاکھ لوگ مارے گئے، ڈیڑھ کروڑ لوگوں کو سرحد کے دونوں طرف ہجرت کرنی پڑی، نتیجتاً نفرت کا جو سلسلہ شروع ہوا، اس نے آج تک خطے کو اپنی لپیٹ میں لے رکھا ہے۔ تقسیم کے وقت کے فسادات کی ابتدا تو 16 اگست 1946 کو کلکتہ کے فسادات سے ہو چکی تھی تاہم راولپنڈی میں مارچ 1947 کو ہونے والے فسادات نے تو گویا تقسیم کے خون آلود ہونے پر مہر تصدیق ثبت کر دی تھی۔ اگر یہ فسادات نہ ہوتے تو ماہرین کا خیال ہے کہ شاید پاکستان اور بھارت آج امریکہ اور کینیڈا کی طرح کے ہمسائے ہوتے۔
مقرر سجاد اظہر ایک پیشہ ور صحافی اور محقق ہیں جو انڈیپنڈینٹ اردو سے وابستہ ہیں۔ حال ہی میں ان کی نثری نظموں کی کتاب “لنڈی کوتل کی لالٹین” شائع ہوئی ہے۔ وہ گذشتہ 28 برس سے پاکستان اور پاکستان سے باہر کئی صحافتی و تحقیقی اداروں سے وابستہ رہ چکے ہیں اور مختلف موضوعات پر تحقیقی پروگراموں کا حصہ رہے ہیں۔ ان کی تحقیق کا ایک بڑا موضوع راولپنڈی کے فسادات ہیں جن کے بارے میں ان کی رائے ہے کہ اگر یہ نہ ہوتے تو بعد کی تاریخ بہت مختلف ہوتی۔

[@RavinderKumar-p5q]

Excellent information but painful history. Thanks for info

[@tajnawab]

How to appreciate .. Don't have the words... A million respect to Azhar ...

[@anjumrazarecords]

Please make correction to name of village where ghilab Singh havaili was and well incident happened the name of village is Thoha Khalsa not a Choha Khalsa both are villages situated in district Rawalpindi Thoha Khalsa was relatively bigger and main village of Sikhs for that time Dukh Pajni was a place where all women jumped in well this is another small village next to Thoha Khalsa sorry if I said something wrong thanks

[@sajjadazhar]

You are right, it was Thoa khalsa

[@muhammadsuleman9328]

What about Bihar Bangal riot hindu killing Muslim we can not live together hindu and Muslim r different we love to eat beafe ❤❤❤

[@loveearthly]

Mini ‘Truth and reconciliation’ conversations like these heal the wounds, and may cure the problem faced within radicalized communities. Many thanks to the hosts and for the speaker.

[@captneerajmadan3151]

Bhaijaan, Thank you for your courage to speak the truth .

[@arendolaren392]

Does any body has courage in India to speak truth about the killings of Muslims in East Punjab by the hands of violent Sikh jatthas and Hindu violent mobs on the inciting of Master Taara Singh and congress leaders .......

[@malikawan19]

There were several talks on youTube. This was specifically about Rawalpindi and its horrors of fasaad.

[@purujitparashar4642]

​@@arendolaren392 reaction to the killings of Sikhs in west Punjab

[@kamakshikaul]

@@arendolaren392rawalapindi was just one such massacre what about sialkot, kohat, multan, abbottabad massacres.

[@ahmadabbasi252]

Very informative.. Sajjad Azhar is a great historian and an excellent speaker.. ❤

[@gulshankapoor8924]

Great wishes from the depth of my heart for entire team of THE BLACK HOLE for conducting the most sensitive part of history for the new generation. Thanks.

[@jasha9sandhu]

Even in 2023 India, muslims pelt stones on Hindu religious processions . Most recent example: Nuh District India. Islamist mindset doesn't believe in coexistence

[@altafkumail904]

Interesting 🤔 thanks so knowledgeable video

[@amirgill5474]

Very informative Programm

[@apsingh2484]

My grandfather worked with Britisher govt for twelve years. He was telegraphist and remain posted in Rawalpindi cantt. He also told me that riots were first of all started by some muslims in pothohaar area and later on moved to south and east panjab. In this area most of the women were raped , men were murdered and property looted. Very tragic time.

[@SultanAli-uu5jz]

Great research for public awareness

[@iftikharabbasi1983]

Thankyou, may Allah bless you.

[@asifiqbal2776]

1:03:44 A very good question, in very decent and smart choice of words, but reaching at the heart of the problem!

[@loveearthly]

Agree. But the speaker either ignored it, or the answer seemed incomplete.

[@HealEasyNow]

An excellent platform to produce awareness and to dig out the real causes by very learned intellectuals, its a great effort ,I think a great job to perform, presence of very imminent scholar and the way each and every single moment of the past history is defined by the speaker, it is very special and unique, I think it is one of the best session ever since recorded, a great approach and a great wisdom behind this session, Keep it up and all the best...

[@mirzahoorahmad8423]

How come it was possible for Sikhs to fight for united India when their population were not in majority any districts of Punjab.

[@bilalshakirkahloon2024]

بوھت ودھیا تجزیہ کیتا جے جناب حالات رفتہ دا ۔ سکھی تے خوشی وسو آمین 🌳

[@iqtidarbaig8532]

Excellent work by Sajad sb. He is a gold mine of pindi history. Very Very good effort. Thanks

[@furqanullah8743]

Thankyou for sharing these untold stories

[@gurpreetanand5451]

Thank you for speaking up true history that uprooted is residents of pindi for centuries .🙏

[@jpc2861]

One of the most honest discussion on this channel. 🎉

[@syedarshadhussain984]

What a knowledgeable coversation

[@ahsanqureshi1867]

Love this program.

[@Jan-e-Badar]

Very courageous and researched work done by an industrious Sajjad Azhar. Impressed by his true work.

[@faautobahna9416]

Fascinating. Thank you so much for shedding light on this very sad and hidden part of our history.

[@zaktrust]

Great educational value ! An eye opener. Lajawab bayaan ❤🤟

[@rainbow-vp4df]

Thank you Sajad Azhar sahib for explaining the real facts and causes of Rawalpindi fasadat in 1920's and 40's which were never known before. Rawalpindi is my city . I remember jamia masjid , kurshid cinema and bilraj sahini when he visited Rawallpindi in 60's. Your research about history of Rawalpindi is amazing.

[@awazejaz]

A great post.

[@skynet2010]

Aziz Malik ki kitab Rawal Des kay baad second most informative sitting on Rawlapindi. Great work

[@aamirrizwan2011]

Very informative, learned a lot in 1.3 hours, lot of very relevant information.

[@SyedMurtaza-l3f]

Shukerya sir

[@RajaAli-ei7me]

Truly an eye opening session.

[@inderjitsinghsekhon4146]

Very interesting and frank talk.

[@justlikethat5590]

Very informative ....

[@khalidmufti4463]

شکریہ اہم معلومات فراہم کرنے کا

[@sayarahmad1145]

Saree fasadaath ke jadh ek he hai aor wo hai musalmaan hypocrisy .....no khud jeena ata hai no dosroon ko jeene deta hai.

[@fchaudhry3764]

Although I knew about Rawalpindi Fasad from Dr. Ishtiaq but Azhar sahib did great research and went into detail. Pervez Hoodbhoy’s initiative with “The black hole” is much appreciated. At least there is one forum in Pakistan where people with critical thinking can freely discuss ideas and speak the truth. Partition is a tragic and painful subject but we must face it with honesty and empathy for the victims.

[@somnathde8680]

Wish, in India we have a forum like this soon.

[@kanaka7552]

@@somnathde8680 India has never tried to actively control the narrative. We were never taught in our schools that only Hindus suffered because of the partition. We were told Partition was an unfortunate event where people from all the religions and walks of life have suffered and perished.

[@fiazdar1]

yes. but i think he ignored one fact. That is the involvement and raid of pushtoon tribes in the area of Rawalindi and especially in thoa khalsa.

[@youknow6968]

​@@kanaka7552from the Indian's I have met, you guys live in a fantasy world. But pretend otherwise, and claim a childish moral high ground.

[@jasha9sandhu]

This also proves Jinnah & Iqbal Gang supported worst of Jihadi mindset people in Muslim society.

[@maliali2075]

Amazing research,

[@MadanLal-nw4nt]

Astonished to find that lot of inteligent pteople like you are there in Pakistan ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@haqawan7685]

love you listening, very inspiring Reason myself from Pindi

[@bushanmehra9885]

i think The Black Hole is one the best channel i came crossed.thank u very much Dr Parviz Saab for initiative.

[@ishaqbhi3513]

Sir thank you very much

[@qa9914]

Surely this will be very informative and interesting book.

[@ch.khurramazizdhillon-csp3724]

TBH is doing a great service to enlighten the masses. Keep it up.

[@saleem1113]

An excellent effort to get lesson for future by studying history.

[@rubina1868]

Jazakum Allah. May we be surrounded by critical thinkers

[@ZafarMasoud-e4i]

It's amazing, very informative well done

[@exo-gamerz2662]

The other side of the facts should also be reflected. One sided story cannot be digested.

[@mariammalik2962]

Inspiring topic

[@fazalanwer5236]

Very informative historical information but really very painful as well.

[@mayank007-xyz]

Now I hv no doubt as to why Pakistan is heading so stead-fastedly towards doomsday...... The cries of those women and children still haunt Paxtan..

[@liaqatrana]

The nation who kills it's own father or bapoo Gandhi for his insisting to adhere with the agreements signed with pakistan and Britain, is sure travelling with high speed to their doomsday, and Sala Chai wala moodi tea 🍵 has accelerated it

[@leo99380]

Very humble and gentle speaker❤️❤️

[@kedarnathpatnaik7168]

Eye opening show. Very scary story. My prayers for the departed souls. Om shanti 🙏🙏

[@shivshakti829]

Good to see such intellectual people in pakistan

[@fiazdar1]

sir there are intelectual people in Pakistan but they badly criticised and some how forced to leave country. This is an ideal place to promote religious fundamentalsm.

[@exo-gamerz2662]

Intellectual people should not be partial. Hindus do not shower flowers on Indian Muslims n Kashmiri Muslims. Tit for tat is human nature.

[@krishanpalsinghmalik9812]

Very impressive narration. I congratulate the speaker for his indepth knowledge about partition of India.

[@PrabhjotSingh-ku5nv]

Shukriya bhai jaan...

[@farooqbilal7503]

Very informative.

[@ManzoorAhmad-s6m9j]

میری دادا امیر حیدر سے کئی ملاتیں رہیں ، سنکی وفات پر ان کے گاوں جاکر ان کے جنازہ میں شریک ھونے کا اعزاز بھی حاصل ھوا واقعی وہ کیمونسٹ پارٹی کے عظیم رھنما تھے۔

[@dastaanankahi676]

This is different intelligence and intellectual part of Pakistan ❤..

[@KewalKrishnaJuneja]

It is really wonderful work, as my parents are from the pak Punjab appeal me a lot..

[@mallikarjunsajjan4081]

I watch this episode again and again. My heart wriggles in agony at the tragedy inflicted on Hindus and Sikhs. I didn’t see any remorse or sadness on the faces of the audience at the inhuman atrocity inflicted by their forefathers. Are you really humans? What kind of religion is this?

[@shahnilahalibaig460]

Well briefing.

[@SantSipahiTV]

Most tragic and shameful incidents of Punjab history. There must be a reconciliation process. The learned speaker says Thoha Khalsa and Choa Khalsa is same. These are different. Overall good effort.

[@JohnZoot]

There was asked whether anyone on the India side has looked in to the Rawalpindi fasadats by inquiring with hindu/sikhs who were impacted. The answer is no. In my view there are atleast two important reasons for that 1. The people who migrated to India (or were run out of Pakistan) like my family, were dispersed all over north India. It would be very difficult for anyone undertaking such an inquiry to find these people who were directly impacted by the katloaam, even if someone tried. 2. Since independence, the Indian government has actively suppressed the memory of partition. Our history books include only a passing mention of it. I learned about the trauma from my grandparents and parents. And undertood the immensity of it when I saw Gandhi, the movie. The Indian government, to build/preserve a secular character of the country buried the partition and erased it feom discourse, afraid that if people find out, what happened to minorities in Pakistan might happen to muslims in India. So much so that other that Punjabis sindhis and bengalis very few in India know about what happened during partition. Those chickens are not coming home to roost has more information becomes available and more people learn about it. The Muslims of India have not done themselves any favors in this regard

[@hakeemsdairy7755]

علمی معلومات

[@AkbarAli-cr2yh]

Did never read in history books, Amazing facts of religious clashes so concealed.

[@chachapolou2952]

very good speech in history. thank you.

[@BholaSingh-ju4dw]

EXCELLENT discussion and extracting the fact such fact should be told to Pak society

[@fiazdar1]

we need to transfer the true knowledge to our future generations. Unfortunatly our syllabus is based on one sided facts and fictional stories.

[@dr.pawankumararyan4892]

Thanks Dr Sajjad ji, An eye opener naked TRUTH. Hope your message shall bring peace.

[@tariqjavediqbal6600]

Dr. Sajjad Azhar well done, I heard about the rahoit of Kahuta from my parents. I saw the city. Really all over the Pakistan Government did not pay any attention to save historical places and now are ruined.

[@ishtiaqkhattak7528]

Eye opener for almost every one.

[@saqi88]

Excellent program, really enjoyed

[@shaziaakbar298]

بہت عمدہ گفتگو👏👏👏👏

[@ehteshamulhaqhaq5426]

Which subject u are like

[@muhammadkashif7613]

After ranjeet singh, Sikh become elite class in this region (Potohar and Rawalpindi) and it's natural that their behavior with poor muslims is not good after 2nd world some Muslims also become wealthy due to their bravery in 2nd world war for british then they want to take elite status from Hindus and sikhs this is the background

[@shreeyanksinghvi7748]

but u see Indian Punjab and Haryana are way ahead of Pakistan Punjab, and they became elite because of there merit but partition of india is best thing happened to india , if muslim weren't partitioned into Pakistan Bangladesh and india , india would have been a failed state

[@mjiqbal810]

Exactly. Once Sikhs took over the area, they became rulers and occupied most the productive lands. The reason for riots lie deep in the resentment. It just needed some triggers.

[@sumitsoral]

Scary narration of the true events by Sajjad Azhar. Administration of that time purposefully didn't take any action so that the division widens between people. Anything taken with people's sorrows will not be a happy place to live, not surprised with present conditions of the place called Pakistan! Feeling sorry for all those families (irrespective of region or religion) who lost their loved ones and houses. Partition has taken many innocent lives. Heart weeps. People are not learning from history.

[@fiazdar1]

good to say irrespect of region and religion. We must condemn every sort of criminal activity.

[@youknow6968]

Feel sorry for yourself, not Pakistan. Pakistan is developed far more than where it was in 1947. The thousands of communal, religious and caste riots that have killed tens of thousands in India have nothing to do Pakistan. You people are busy killing each other, but have your head buried in the sand. I pity you.

[@tufailmohammad8851]

True knowledge of history of our present pakistan is an eye opener, specially the part played by district Rawalpindi.

[@youknow6968]

@@tufailmohammad8851 it's nothing but typical Pakistani self loathing. Others try to lie, and hide about their history, Pakistanis love blowing everything out of proportion, it's really pathetic.

[@tanveerahmad2900]

Very pity to say, Sajjad Azhar sb that due to one's weak knowledge about jinnah Sb and pakistan movement one should not comment on national issue. The point is Was Hindu and Sikh leadership or Congress wanted a separate country for muslim majority regions? Sajjad sb you please focus on it and try not undermine Jinnah Sb and pl try to correct your Urdu talafuz

[@ch.khurramazizdhillon-csp3724]

Good talk.

[@mqasimfani8176]

زبردست ڈسکشن

[@rajeshwarvishnoi]

कितना शांतिपूर्ण मज़हब है

[@fodder43]

Right

[@MaradonaVsPele]

Thanks for admitting the truth

[@WhoOneIs]

There is an extremely thin line between civilisation and barbarism. Entire societies can plunge into madness and savagery. The ethnic cleansing that went on during Partition is an open wound between India and Pakistan that has no signs of healing. Talking about what happened is a small step in the right direction.

[@honorhonor3352]

Thanks to Jinnah.

[@jasha9sandhu]

Be it with unprovoked planned massacre of Hindus in Calcutta, or massacre of Sikhs & Hindus around Rawalpindi, Jinnah's Muslim League ( supported by majority of Muslim elite of undivided India) Goons started the violence for achieving their aim of creating Pakistan. Source: Dr. Ishtiyaq Ahmed ( Pakistani Historian)

[@jasha9sandhu]

Even in 2023 India, muslims pelt stones on Hindu religious processions . Most recent example: Nuh District India. Islamist mindset doesn't believe in coexistence

[@jasha9sandhu]

This also proves Jinnah & Iqbal Gang supported worst of Jihadi mindset people in Muslim society.

[@aarifboy]

The 'riots' which were started by 'Hindus' and 'Sikhs' at partition r still going on in 'India'. 'Riots' of Punjab in 1984, 'Riots' in Gujrat in 2002, Riots in Delhi last year and 'Riots' in Manipur now r just next episodes of those. Its called Karma, these 'riots' never happened in Pak after Partition, 'lanat' hehe

[@jogindersagar2629]

maine pura dekh liya hta hi nhi paya video......professr ko dhanyawaad sath hi prof hoodby sir k liye to hai hi respect :)

[@KhalidNaeemuddin]

اعلیٰ ۔

[@WaseemDhadari]

good

[@jpr2177]

The science of “Basic Reason” behind an historical event dictates; find the most powerful if they’re not behind it or in any form are not happy about the event that might help bring about their dream come true. Here we think the Pindi riots or other all over India had British blessings to speed-up their goal of neutralising the previous enemies ie, Sikhs and Muslims by bringing them to; “fight each other don’t come after us!” Bravo! An excellent program that is full of never-before-heard information. Thank you!

[@AbdulMajeed-hx4jv]

Great research

[@FayazAhmad-yl6spFZ]

میرے والد صاحب انڈین نیوری میں تھے اور بمبئی میں تعینات تھے، وہ 1946 کی بغاوت میں شریک تھے، ان کو 6 مہینے کی قید ہوئی جب پاکستان بنا تو ریلوے میں آسامیاں آئیں والد صاحب میٹرک پاس تھے انہوں نے اپلائی کیا تو انہیں سزا یافتہ ہونے کی وجہ سے بھرتی نہیں کیا گیا بعد میں والد صاحب نے ریلوے میں درخواست دی کہ میں نے انگریز کے خلاف بغاوت کی اپنے ملک پاکستان کی خاطر جیل کاٹی تو ان کو بھرتی کیا گیا، دوسری طرف انگریز کے وفادار کو اچھی نوکریاں اور جاگیریں پاکستان میں ملیں۔

[@faheemawan84]

راولپنڈی کے گردو نواح کے علاقوں میں آج بھی لوگوں کا مزاج ایسا ہے ۔ وہ جھگڑے میں بڑی خوشی سے چھلانگ لگاتے ہیں ۔ 😂😂

[@MuhammadUsamaQamar]

Bilkul theek kaha i was born and raised in pindi but outskirts k log aj b jahil aur larakay hain aur on ko is baat pa fakhar ha

[@atulkumar-pr4yo]

Musalman want to build Mosque, every where but don't allow others to build their relegious places.

[@somnathde8680]

Let The Black Hole create a whatsapp group officially for the people from the subcontinent for critical thinking and for rational thinkers.

[@Ashalabbasofficial616]

Great speech sir. especially for society in history

[@maqsoodchoudary1766]

The reasons for non-violence in Baluchistan and Sindh are quite understandable. The relations between the two communities were more harmonious, and the poverty was on both sides of the aisle. In Punjab and in particular Rawalpindi, the relations were tense because both were living side by side. The urban commercial life of Rawalpindi was dominated by the Hindu community, the landed elite were mostly Sikhs, while the Muslims were on the fringes of the system. So there was a clear economic dividing-line between the Hindu-Sikh and their Muslim counterparts.

[@abracadabra42]

Therefore muslims were justified in committing genocide of hindus and sikhs?

[@ShahbazKhan-ni3ol]

After learning all this what is the lesson learned and what further steps are taken lessons of History

[@sulaimanyaseensulaimanyase9575]

Well done too good I am enlightened. QA when saw that Hindus were not willing to give basic rights to the Muslims with in one country he decided to get India divided.

[@rebasingh258]

Very few people in Pskustan are interested in this talk. Even the small room has many vacant seats This is most unfortunate.

[@rajeshseth7953]

Sir, The partition not only affected the people who migrated one place to another but it also hit local people as the majority of the people with high consumptions left their regions.

[@subhashcsud8768]

In Pakistan, very few people have started revisiting the real cause of partion between India and Pakistan.There is a sincere attempt to analyse the real cause from pakistani prospective. it is really a welcome and very courageous step to undo this unnatural partition in this sub continent.

[@somnathde8680]

Great forum for discussion. Appreciated from India.

[@US_Embroidery_Digitizing_Team]

Thank you sir for your incredible research and videography. Our young generation needs this.

[@gurmailbath16]

Great job Respect from California 🙏🙏🇺🇸

[@MsRaja-zy1go]

Sir app bi isi area se gye thy?

[@swadeshtaneja3512]

Massacre took place in all places. My parents were in Ahmedpur East in the state of Bahawalpur and and our elders told us that poison was distributed to women in case the Muslim men tried to rape them. My father had many good Muslim friends who helped us to escape in return for giving them all property movable and immovable which was immense.

[@ZoonChenar-lw5hx]

Master Tara Singh and his Hindu Sikh groups started the 1947 riots not the Muslims. If the stupid Muslim Punjabis had collected arms and prepared for ethnic wars there would today be 90% Muslim majority from Attock to Karnal and Maler Kotla state in East Punjab my friends. Muslim majority of 75% in Ferozepur Gurdaspur and 93% Muslims in Kapurthala state would not have been wiped out to 0%. The Muslims were unarmed and unprepared and the Hindu Sikhs were planning and plotting and amassing arms in every Gurdwara, haveli and godown. This is all fake history twisted deliberately to whitewash Hindu Sikh crimes. Just ask the local families.

[@TM-rq3jp]

Totally agree with you my father remembers sanatadaram school 1945 and RSS training the local hindus and he recalls being stopped by them crossing tbe ground. They had big sticks to practice they had a uniform.He also remembers that there was a message on the speaker whilst he was in baag sardara sajan singh announced tomorrow holi will be played with muslamans blood. The mali told them to leave. Next day the army surrounded 1947. According to my father the writer is factially incorrect. The train leaving for India was accompanied by solidiers and ones carrying muslims from india only with driver. The people leaving took there household things with them. The English controlled all the areas before partition. I have myself met the sikh owner of Imperial Cinema who left pindi remembers it fondly and people also my grandfather who was a muslim doctor at the time

[@TM-rq3jp]

One other fact the writer is forgetting there were 25% muslims in pindi and 75% Hindus/sikhs (who had arms)

[@pradeepkumarkamble4017]

sajid ajhar behad kam musalman hai jo sach boltey hai aap unmesey ek hai aap apnee book hindustn mey bhee publish karey hindi and panjabi mey feer ek baar apkey hosley ko daad deta hoo jo sach bolney kee himmat rakhta hai