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Today on the Daily News You Can Use, Ray and Zach discuss the latest news on Ford and General Motors. Tune in to learn more!

[@davidmorsse5437]

I did not pay that much for my first house. If you buy a half ton pick up truck for over 90,000 that will be a like make a payment on a house just crazy

[@cathybarela4304]

Really enjoyed the inforation your team provided, look forward to seeing more updates, yes car deals would be great and how to negotiate OTD price.

[@DanGilliland-pi4vh]

And an out the door quality level of the way vehicles were made 20 years ago. Til they fo back to simple, more reliable quality vehicles were done, we will maintain what we have.

[@autofox5.067]

Instead of making payments on a 100k truck, which is a depreciating asset. I choose to buy real estate every time.

[@dougb3647]

I thought Ford wanted to make good quality cars but Ford wants be known by their old moniker, Fix Or Repair Daily

[@Treklosopher]

First on Recall Day is the most fitting right now. 😆

[@TheRealCobraBurnout]

Well, thanks for the daily dose of car doom and gloom. I’m definitely priced out of the market so I just enjoy watching the banter.

[@civilianwardrobe]

I can tell you from first hand experience that dealers are losing at least 10k per EV they sell due to massive discounts in order to live them.

[@jeffswanson9121]

The next 4 years are going to be crazy for everyone.

[@stanmarcusgtv]

and a refreshing change from the previous four years

[@michaelp4834]

Great show, Gentlemen, and to see you both next to each other doing the show!

[@rocinblues]

Correction, Ford didn't lose $37k per EV, it was the stockholders. There simply seems to be zero accountability.

[@edwardkrochmal8268]

Manufacturers dont do enough testing before bringing a new vehicle for sale

[@daleolson3506]

It’s the china components supplied by the low bidder failing. Tractors,washers,and everything else too. We don’t stand a chance

[@dammitdan106]

You think they don't engineer Mean Time Before Failure versus cost of each part that is contracted to China?

[@Honest_Joker_PH]

The auto industry is like the medical industry. You don't know what individual options cost. There are probably 20 options you don't want, but have to buy, to get the 4 options you want.

[@steveklinger6015]

Guys, a few points that I don't think you are seeing. 1) Autonomous driving is not "futuristic". Tesla is rolling out robotaxis with no steering wheels in 4 months! Have you ridden a Tesla recently? FSD works now. 2) Ford loses money on each EV because they don't have scale. They need to build millions in order to make positive gross profit. Selling more EVs does not make them lose more money, it drives down unit cost. 3) Ford and GM are not offering "affordable" options, because all the profit is in premium vehicles. They used to sell entry level models, hoping to get repeat customers that they could upsell next time. Those days are gone. Nobody is going to buy 2 more new ICE cars. 80% of cars sold globally will be electric in 5 years. Maybe not in USA, but China is already >50%. Norway is >90%. Europe is > 30%. USA is only 15% of global car market.

[@stanmarcusgtv]

EVs are moribund no one cares what Europe is doing and China has made their market profitless for non chinese brands Musk stated that EVs are a niche and represent @6% of the market

[@dammitdan106]

Ten thousand pounds of de ganjay must be smoked before I play toro toro taxi in the street with an AI car.

[@travonac.3084]

Good job everyone

[@MikeSTGL]

Nice job all . Enjoyed the change up and the website look over and the success stories.

[@mrpips000]

Why is Caredge requiring a sign in to browse listings? Not going to do it, so I'll find another site.

[@_pld]

Same, I tend not to use sites that make me sign in unless I am signing in to buy something I found!

[@cornsackman]

It’s not a big deal

[@BuckRogers2000]

The ONLY way prices will drop is when their revenue(s) significantly dry up. I perceive it will take 3 consecutive years for them to get worried.

[@jonathana2079]

We're probably at the start of a scenario similar to the 1930s where automakers or brands disappear. Nissan is most likely first, followed by Jaguar, Stellantis brands, and some gm lines.

[@NVRAMboi]

20th Century is littered w/ failed car brands. Some are missed. Some.

[@markrichards4042]

Ford wants to sell me a 2025 Explorer ST AWD for months now. "Agreed upon price" $61900. Ridiculous. I told them 2 huge problems. 1) Quick search shows the average transaction price of that same vehicle $56k-$57k. And 2) not a chance in hell I am paying $997 DOC fee. Reply, come in we will make you happy. BS. Besides there are bunches of places I can spend 3 hours at that make me unhappy. No need to go there.

[@dammitdan106]

Come on in partner, we wrape you nicey nice.

[@hotshotsbydonphotography9376]

Just purchased a 2025 Explorer ST last week and the sticker was $61,450. OTD was $48,900 w/o title/registration, and sales tax. Negotiated the Doc Fee to $250 and taken off the vehicle bottom line. Other incentives thrown in like window tint, a couple oil changes and mats. I thought that was a fair price for my location in Arizona.

[@markrichards4042]

​@hotshotsbydonphotography9376 Very fair.

[@wawalker1]

Thanks Justice, Phil, and Debbie. This is a great start and I look forward to this format in the future.

[@naturalselfyoga1617]

I bought 2 Prius this week. That makes 3 vehicle purchases in 2025 for me. Ugh. So many test drives...

[@DouglasLippi]

28:39 the car was good enough to drive through the window. Not sure what he was complaining about 🤣

[@larrybraun8866]

enjoying your presentations and insights to the auto industry

[@EJManning-h1i]

Brilliant commentary !

[@edwardkrochmal8268]

So right the Mazda 3 series goes forever if taken care of. Talking about over 200 k miles.

[@patrickmcgowan7826]

Gents, I think that the slow demise of Nissan began under Carlos Ghosn.

[@drg424]

No cam phasers, just the 2 valve, cdi ignition was fine, 4 speed trannys, no 10 speed crap, in other words james farley and mary Bara put on your common sense hat, and remember this if it ain't broke don't fix it. Hire me I know how to fire incompetent people.

[@matthewsocal2540]

If you buy a new car, you're paying 2x price for half the cost. Your discounts come from their extreme profits. Look at BYD. Coming in at 30k is a steal. Yet we put a 100% tariff on them. So, we have to pay 60k to get into the units. Meanwhile, Lincoln does not have such tariff selling onto China market. WTF, people? You good with that? In addition to no tariffs, American manufacturers can't come in at a compete price. Total BS. Delights me that I can buy used for the next 2 decades. Dueces.

[@JamesBoyer-q3j]

Great presentation!!!!

[@PaulKurtzeborn-tg9ht]

How many vehicles does BYD have in inventory.

[@edelaney80]

Sounds great

[@Chief_5]

Making lowball offers on Ford Bronco until one gets accepted. 👍😄

[@dammitdan106]

Yes, it's best to buy low cost manure if there are no nonmanure alternatives.

[@USATFJUMPER]

I have renewed my membership for years even though I'm not buying. I support what you all do. keep up thr great work

[@michaelkruse1413]

I love you guys! Just bought a 2023 Ioniq 5 with under 8 k miles for $33 k! Very happy!

[@rodgerpetrick6502]

My last Ford was a 2017 Escape. When Ford decided to put a knob in place of the gear shift handle I dropped Ford. I have Cerebral palsy which I am unable to grab a stupid knob.

[@minhn2888]

Zach's hair always looks like he just got out of the shower

[@actionshootingsports8830]

Love the Magnum look

[@derpydestinies]

If Ford sold a million more EVs they would have lost LESS per vehicle. In fact they might have made a profit. Guys, please stop perpetuating bad math. The loss per vehicle is the cost of (profit on each vehicle - (R&D + operational and manufacturing costs) ) / by vehicle sold. The more vehicles are sold the less that loss is.

[@donparsons1237]

You dudes are team awesome,,, why not the matching shirts... lol. 😂

[@HarryTwatter]

I don't want Zach to edge me lol

[@jameswagley7885]

Foxconn has a EV division that they're trying to get going

[@NVRAMboi]

They might want to keep it as a small R&D division.

[@edwardkrochmal8268]

Mazda is on top with dependable vehicle. How many recalls from Mazda.

[@patrickmcgowan7826]

Given the experience of Jacques Nasser at First, perhaps the lesson is that you may want to think twice about having a Lebanese boss at your car company.,

[@OnTheAir]

Autocar is a heavy duty truck manufacturer

[@patrickmcgowan7826]

Ford, not First.

[@mikiewifnoe360]

Offer zero percent financing with good otd pricing.

[@jimjernigan7874]

you guys keep talking about how GM and Ford are in trouble yet Ford just had billions in profits again. enough give every union emploeyee a bonus of 10500

[@donparsons1237]

Recalls will kill their profits... kind of wize to build quality out the door or your plan will fail... 😂

[@timcox3474]

Hey Ray, please put a stop to a video like this in the future where you do a BS ‘handoff’. It’s literally the equivalent of a bait and switch. If in an hour video, you’re gonna have someone else come in for 30 minutes then do two separate and distinct videos or else your credibility is zero with me.

[@j-mo3129]

Nissan neglected to fix a known problem with their transmissions and ruined their brand reputation. Maybe the newest products are better but even if they are it will take time to repair the damage. Do they have time? I have looked at the frontier and I think it's a nice simple truck. They said I could get 4k off a 2024. Is that a reasonable discount on a bare bone S model?

[@Gryllus2501]

I got a fully loaded ford Maverick XLT 2025 for $36k. It’s everything I need and more. We’ll see how this AWD 2.0 L holds up. Doubtful it will be like my 300k Toyota Matrix XR 2003 I traded in.

[@donl7438]

Nissan - transmission issues

[@btrts6431]

Zach and followers on here, you’re wrong about EVs. Don’t follow the headlines, the % numbers show constant improvement.

[@actualfacts1055]

EV mandates and subsidies are gone, oops no one wants one, whst a shame.

[@stanmarcusgtv]

in Europe people don't want EVs either

[@ArielBatista]

I am sorry to say that the future is EV's. If we don't see that we're going to lose everything. We need to get in front of this. ICE cars are the past. Especially technology. Less moving parts. We need to retrain ourselves. Just like the Japanese car industry came in and changed things. We are just delaying the facts.

[@shadys33]

Not sorry to say you're wrong.

[@DuffyGabi]

Pull my 7,000 pound 14’ work trailer during a Minnesota winter. Sunday the low is -2°F.

[@stanmarcusgtv]

Edison agreed w/ you In 1910 EVs are not the future, they are a niche product

[@Lewehot]

@@shadys33EVs represented 9% in 2024, that number will keep increasing. Norway EV sales are 95% of all vehicles sold. The US and everywhere else is going in the same direction. GM and Ford will be reorganized in 5 years filing Chapter 11, then 5 years afterwards it will file Chapter 7 full liquidation.

[@michaelthomas5140]

Hopefully not, mining and processing the materials needed for producing EV’s are worse for the environment than ICE vehicles if that’s where your position stems from.