Rays imply stadium plans DONE after 2nd Vote Delay

[@brodiebrazil]

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[@KWally]

Stop shelling out grants for billionaires....

[@cpl.m9645]

It's not a grant. Cities build a stadium and have teams sign long term leases so a team is forced to stay, city collects rent and growth occurs around area. Use to be a problem long time ago where teams would move city to city.

[@scotttild]

But the rent and the money generated never work out for the cities. Almost every stadium bull has caused cities to have to dip into the general fund to pay for what ever bonds were issued with very few exceptions. Raiders are costing Clark County millions every year, the taxes have expired and didn’t cover the entire build, so now there is a shortfall. Meanwhile the value of the Raiders have doubled. Tell me again why Davis could not have built it without tax payer money At least he should have paid back the city for the shortfall.

[@Jonathanstockwell]

Putting millions of dollars and effort into a stadium that will be torn down in less than five years makes no sense, unless there is significant revenue would be made. When your city needs infrastructure like storm drains and sea wall reinforcement, stadiums that don’t benefit the residents, should not be done.

[@pixelfan17]

And for 30 years nahhhh

[@Bk6346]

@@Jonathanstockwell If the city of St. Petersburg doesn’t fix the roof then lease is terminated and the Rays are free to leave to another city.

[@warriorpj8554]

Let MLB pay for the damn stadium……multibillion dollar industry

[@ronclark9724]

Why when a city that wants to land a MLB team will?

[@Bk6346]

Tropicana Stadium is owned by the city of St. Petersburg. The Rays are only a tenant. Hey landlord fix that roof.

[@Joel-zy2zw]

If another city will pay for a stadium then the Rays are gone. Why pay for something when someone else will. MLB will move em happily. Rays are not tied to St Pete

[@alesitercrimson24]

@@Joel-zy2zw They should leave. Really bad attendance. No one even showed up for the playoffs two years ago when the team was very successful

[@cpl.m9645]

Saying this you obviously don't know the history of Tropicana Field because they built an outdated stadium 8-years before even getting a MLB team. So they were happy to build a stadium using public money (by displacing a massive black community FYI) before... but now it just political because Pinellas County is run by awful people.

[@brucefranklin6765]

The Rays missed out a few years ago when they could have partnered with the Tampa Bay Lightning owner Vinnik in the redevelopment area of Channelside in downtown Tampa.

[@SteveSonoga]

It's the f**ken owner. The Rays have an Owner a Billionaire Owner. Give him more, that's what all Billionaires want More$$$$$.

[@chino7287]

🎯

[@BilboBagginsense]

EXACTLY!

[@cpl.m9645]

St. Petersburg mayor Bill Foster at that time killed the deal since Rays had a lease until 2027.

[@BrokenHaloTheory]

Yeah this finally cemented my disinterest in Major League. This is along with other decisions made in the last few years I’ve completely lost interest in the league. I had great memories with the Rays always were the underdogs that could never get over the hump. Edit: My hope and that is a huge hope is that they will move across the bay into Tampa.

[@zcorpalpha2462]

Everything I ever ❤ is dying Star Wars, MLB Baseball, Movies, Music, Fashion, TV Shows, Radio, all dying WTF is left, watching paint dry ‼️⁉️ I started reading old books 📚 Only thing left

[@szlava3641]

It’s not MLB’s fault. Pinellas county fucked this up by changing the insurance company payout policy from $100m to $25m. They’re just salty that the Rays are relocating to Tampa where the fans are mostly located. If they really cared about keeping the rays, now wouldn’t have been the appropriate time to kill the stadium plan.

[@Heylookitskevvin]

@@zcorpalpha2462”the future is now old man”

[@szlava3641]

Not a Rays fan, but this lies for the most part on Pinellas county. You should blame them. They changed the insurance policy payout from $100m to $25m. Second, the fact is that they “took their ball home with them” because the Rays chose to relocate to Tampa where the fans actually are. New Orleans didn’t go out of the way and drive the Saints out of town after hurricane katrina. It says a lot about the Pinellas county that they would kill this stadium proposal like sore losers. If the Rays played at the ballpark by Disney, they wouldn’t be having hissy fits like they are now.

[@713davidh42]

If the Rays are going stay in this area Tampa is where they should be. Sorry, St. Pete but a new stadium needs to have easy access by some means other than just by car.

[@kjhuang]

Who would've thought I would listen to a county commission meeting on the other side of the country from me. Also I love how frank the commissioner is about Rays management.

[@HunterMaggiacomo]

Im a huge rays fan and its a slap in the face to me honestly it makes me wonder why sternburg would back out.. praying they vote yes cause i dont have much faith that hillsborough county adopts the rays.

[@77-ty7gb]

Nashville and Montreal would love having the Ray's. The delay is years in the making.

[@HunterMaggiacomo]

@@77-ty7gb I wouldn’t love that buddy. Get an expansion team instead please

[@713davidh42]

Pinellas County needs to focus its resources on recovering from Hurricane Milton and not on some pie-in-the-sky economic delusion. Any new stadium there also needs to have easy access by some means other than just by automobiles fighting traffic congestion from elsewhere in this area.

[@BlackSaiyan24]

Orlando has the desire, the money, and the location. Makes zero sense to skip over it.

[@alesitercrimson24]

Agreed. Plus hurricanes typically dont destroy Orlando. Tampa is right on the coast and future years its going to keep getting worse

[@cpl.m9645]

Pinellas County has been delaying a deal for 10-years while handcuffing the team to St Pete. Rays need to go and never look back.

[@craigphillips3154]

It's been longer than 10 years.

[@Alan-lv9rw]

My Cubs started in Chicago in 1870, which is 154 years ago. I’m glad they’re not likely to move.

[@michaelleroy9281]

Wait and see , years down the road they might be whining Wrigley Field is too damn old

[@sweetmapleleafs]

Who'd have thought that 5 years after the Civil War, there would be a professional baseball team out of Chicago? A franchise that, up until 8yrs ago, won its first World Series since 1908--43yrs after the Civil War. I sure miss the loveable losers era tho....

[@cubbie8330]

I heard the Cubs are moving to Omaha.

[@EctoJoe]

Lol back then they were called the White Stockings

[@Elephant2024]

Not sure South Siders want their team after that historically bad season.😆

[@mikeh1242]

Rays fan. The problem is the way these deals are legally structured and all the hoops that need to be jumped through even after they voted for it and announced baseball is here to stay, the stadium renderings, they kissed the babies, maybe had a parade. The structure of this deal was doomed from the beginning and I'm sure both parties and their lawyers knew that. I guess us, as fans were just naive to that fact, not anymore. At this point I hope the Rays sell to a good owner and to a city that wants them, and they live happily ever after.

[@Jonathanstockwell]

MLB is a bad idea in Florida. Oakland, Tampa and Miami are three bottom attendance and percentage of stadium attendees in all of baseball. Baseball is in a bad place with so many teams wanting new stadiums or major stadium renovations in the worst four political years, no way should tax payers pay for any of this. NBA and MLB ratings are way down, only the NFL is making real money right now.

[@mikeh1242]

@@Jonathanstockwell agreed, and one reason Tampa and Miami have low attendance is because there is so much to do here. Boating, Fishing, festivals, outdoor activities. All the people up north are stuck in the cave all winter, so when spring and summer comes, it's out to the old ball park.

[@WonkNRoll]

@@JonathanstockwellOakland was drawing 20,000+ per game a recently as 2019. It was the ownership that ruined things there, fans we willing to deal with Oakland Coliseum and likely would have come out in droves to a new park if Fisher hadn’t sabotaged every stadium deal in Oakland.

[@kjhuang]

​@@mikeh1242What? The Los Angeles Dodgers were at the top in attendance this past season, and Los Angeles in July is 80 degrees with no humidity compared to the 90 degrees with 80 percent humidity that Florida has. If anything Florida should have better attendance because their stadiums offer something to do inside with AC away from the heat and thunderstorms.

[@mikeh1242]

@@kjhuang You are comparing Los Angeles to Tampa Bay area? Give me a break. Yes, we had an indoor air-conditioned stadium that I liked, but everyone else shunned us about our terrible stadium. People in Florida are living the dream, not going to a ballpark. I'm hoping California succeeds from the U.S with all of their sanctuary cities and public debt. Remember the Rays gave a good fight in the World Series against the mighty Dodgers just 4 years ago.

[@anthony_rivera4735]

I'm a miss having the ONLY Milwaukee Tampa rivalry in all of sports.

[@michaelleroy9281]

There is no Brewers Rays rivalry, like Red Sox Yankees

[@ChrisGtravels666]

It was never a good plan to build a new stadium in that location anyway. They have really poor attendance for a team that has actually done pretty well, and building a new stadium will only boost attendance temporarily.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Needs to be built in Tampa itself.

[@ChrisGtravels666]

Exactly

[@principalmcvicker6530]

I'm surprised things got this ugly. I guess I shouldn't be, though.

[@bsputnik]

I got voted in over the other guy who voted 'yes' to the Ray's deal. You now want me to vote 'yes' because [checks notes] we have a need for certainty for investors. I think not.

[@David_Peltier]

Think it is safe to say that the Rays are done in TB. Get ready for Nashville or Salt Lake in the near future.

[@timphares3061]

Montreal? Oakland?

[@kukxiv7070]

@@timphares3061 Oakland is a definite no, Montreal would have to build a new stadium

[@frv1995]

Oakland is to disorganized & dysfunctional Politically. San Jose is the better choice

[@timphares3061]

@@frv1995 The problem is Fisher, who kept changing the terms every time they got close to a deal.

[@desertdog3473]

No chance they go west, Charlotte or Nashville most likely. Makes zero sense with the division they're in

[@smokey5100]

Mr Lacob, now would be a great time to give the Rays a call sir.

[@michaelleroy9281]

Forget about them moving to Oakland, they need a ballpark, just like Tampa

[@smokey5100]

@michaelleroy9281 OAKLAND NEVER GIVES UP

[@naturallawman2965]

I get the feeling that Stu had 2nd thoughts after Milton. He wants it dead. Either A) he only wants to stay in the region on the East-side of the Bay (aka Hillsborough County), or B) he's already privately getting better offers from other cities, i.e. Orlando, Montreal, Nashville, Charlotte, Salt Lake City, etc.

[@kv2723]

He wants everyone else to fork over the majority of the money - that's the problem. Greedy and cheap AF.

[@Drforce2311]

The commissioners delayed again because they don’t know what the agreement says even though it’s published for anyone interested to view.

[@JuanNunez2023]

The Salt Lake City Rays coming soon.

[@BilboBagginsense]

Dear Pinellas County, You are NOT a sports destination. Your location is a logistical nightmare and absolutely atrocious for any professional team. You don’t have the infrastructure to support traffic or any semblance of public transportation that can support an influx of people. You are wasting time and money into a pit that cannot be supported in the long term. You are a beach destination; a vacation and retirement destination. Spend your money on the residences and the beautifying and protection of your largest asset and money driver. Let’s wake up to reality. Sincerely, Tampa resident who works in St Pete. PS Fire that commissioner. He is frivolously spending your tax dollars.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Also how I feel about Glendale, Arizona and especially Santa Clara, California.

[@Gunnar_Blackburn]

Rays really out here trying to strong arm a county recovering from 2 major hurricanes when the Rays can't even create enough of a draw to fill their seats without tarping off half the stadium

[@ronclark9724]

It isn't the Rays fault the city got super cheap and failed to maintain proper insurance.... The city owns that failure....

[@Gunnar_Blackburn]

@@ronclark9724 It's the Rays' fault for being a trash franchise and like I said, failing to fill seats and having the worst average attendance over the last 15 years. At the same time, however, I'll give the Rays props for deluding the county into thinking they could possibly make their project profitable in the slightest with the numbers they put up.

[@ericjaysmusicpromotion957]

Ray's put a minor league team out on the field every year and expect major league stadium money, its time for them to move on

[@Bk6346]

News flash: Tropicana Field is owned by the city of St. Petersburg and the Tampa Rays are only a tenant. Hey landlord, fix that roof.

[@Gunnar_Blackburn]

@@Bk6346 I'll take this over dropping hundreds of millions in charity for them to build a new stadium no one is gonna go to.

[@Elephant2024]

Put it to a referendum vote: Tampa or St. Pete. One or the other. Let's get this done.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Tampa or bust.

[@Elephant2024]

@@psychopathyoutubeemployees280 Preferably Tampa. But if that can't happen, sure most Rays fans would rather that they play in St. Pete over Charlotte, Nashville, or any out of state location.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

@@Elephant2024 - Not with the low attendance the owners do not want! Tampa or bust. Buccaneers are the only ones that would work in a trash compactor like St. Petersburg! 8 to 9 home games a year in football.

[@TimFrith24]

If Stuart Sternberg decides to sell the Rays to the Glazer family, who owns the NFL’s Buccaneers and the Premier League’s Manchester United, and Doug Ostrover and Marc Lipschultz, who currently own a majority stake in the NHL’s Lightning, for $2.17 billion, then the Rays will have to build their new $1.1 billion 38,000-seat retractable-roof ballpark adjacent to Raymond James Stadium on the former Tampa Stadium site for the 2029 MLB season.

[@alesitercrimson24]

Not worth it with more hurricanes coming in the forseable future. Its not worth it in Tampa area anymore

[@TimFrith24]

@ Perhaps Stuart Sternberg will sell the Rays to Music City Baseball, so the Rays will relocate to Nashville Stars and play at their new ballpark adjacent to Nissan Stadium for the 2028 MLB season.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Excellent idea. And make sure that stadium is made of tough enough substances to survive a hurricane, and prepare to save some bucks when a hurricane does damage to the new building.

[@louiscypher4186]

Damn that's one slick politician.

[@dagobert1234321]

A politician that looks out for the interests of the taxpayers of Pinellas county over an MLB owner… wish more politicians took guts like him

[@robertlittlefield1855]

That we're talking about the Rays PLUS the A's only points to weakness in the overall governance of MLB. One situation is bad enough; two is disastrous. My feeling - MLB just walked right into this. They knew that St Petersburg was a weak franchise, inhibited by its location, and where was the new stadium to be located? Same place. And now look at the mess they're in. The A's are just as bad. An asshole owner who saw riches in presumably more lucrative Las Vegas rather than get a new ballpark done in Oakand. What my contacts there think is baseball fans in LV don't want the A's, they want expansion with a fresh start. I don't think this deal will be done. And what then? Not one but two franchises lost in the wilderness. It's time for MLB to grow a pair and do what right for the game and for the American League and lay out a more coherent strategy than the shitshow that's unfolding right now. Loyalty to these two owners is a fool's errand

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Private ownership in sports should be illegal. Green Bay Packers public ownership is the way to go.

[@billcook4768]

As an outsider, I find the chaos and incompetence amusing. But I feel for the local Rays fans (I assume at least some exist) who have to deal with this.

[@Mini_xbox]

Rays pls stay home 😔

[@BlackSaiyan24]

Move them to Orlando. They have a spot and ownership ready. Why should the Rays move all the way to Nashville or Charlotte?

[@Gutterbunnytales]

What were the results of yesterday’s vote?

[@dancahill9585]

I can't imagine why the Rays would want to commit to Pinellas County. It's a very small market compared to other available markets like Tampa in Hillsborough County or charlotte or Nashville instead of St. Pete. Everyone has known they need a good post-Tropicana plan, and St. Pete hasn't been a particularly good partner imo. St. Pete should try to get a spring training site or a minor league team. It would be more their speed.

[@Erlov71]

Taxpayers should never have to pay for billionaires.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Nor teams should be owned by private individuals.

[@joelenns5020]

Brodie, I recommend you reach out to Hillsborough County Commissioner Ken Hagan for the Tampa perspective. There is a lot going on that isn't being discussed in the news right now

[@kineticstar]

I bet you Nashville is on the phone with the Rays right now.

[@maxpowr90]

Nashville or Raleigh. For NC's sake, keep the MLB away from the stank that is Charlotte.

[@michaelleroy9281]

Nashville has no ground to stand on, no public money for a ballpark, it was all used for the Titans

[@cg5968]

Nashville has much less of an appetite for public funding now that they just dropped tons of money on the new titans stadium

[@memeloser2376]

Nashville wants an expansion team. They do not want a relocated franchise.

[@kingmo8789]

​@cg5968 doesn't Nashville already have a baseball team? Why need another one?

[@msn64man1]

It could be worse stadium deal cancelled indefinitely

[@S_Over_Street]

Hopefully the city of Tampa &/or Hillsboro county can pull something together in 6 months to a year, or city of Orlando & Orange County get a development plan started if the Rays consider moving out of the Tampa Bat area

[@CharmDupes1300]

Bring back the EXPOS!!!

[@pilotnbr12]

A couple months delay causing the Rays to say "we cant afford this now" , just doesnt pass the smell test...

[@bjnt922]

Orlando, Nashville or North Carolina in either Charlotte or Raleigh in that order if they move.

[@jrvegeeta]

I lived in Tampa for a bit. The reason the fans don’t go to the games has NOTHING to do with WS wins or no - the Bucs and even the Bolts were losers for a time, but they’re still in TB and going strong - it’s about that damn drive to St. Pete. The few times I went to see my Cards play the Rays, nearly every Rays fan I talked to shared my opinion about the stadium being there. What the hell is the problem bringing the Rays to Tampa, where MOST OF THE FANS LIVE? Pinellas county has some blame in this, but the owner certainly is NOT a victim in this, either. Nothing is dead yet, but it’s getting close. One thing that politician said that is correct: this WILL affect A LOT of business negatively - including my old job place OAI (professional print company), who has a big contract with them to handle a lot of their stadium graphics and banners. Get something done, Pinellas…..or this could snowball into something worse - like Oakland.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

St. Petersburg=Glendale and Santa Clara.

[@ozzmoises]

Just move em elsewhere if you wont build the stadium in tampa. Another stadium right next to Tropicana faced a very likely failure.

[@dannyboy34677]

And JP Peterson predicted this for months that this would happen and sure enough you saw it yesterday that’s the smoking gun right there

[@PREDATOR_XZX]

Good, put the money to better uses

[@ivandragomiloff2356]

So when are they going to Nashville:)

[@panowa8319]

How about Sternberg, the fans, and MLB start up a crowdfunding account to raise money to pay for a new stadium?

[@woodser1765]

"In Pinellas or as close to Pinellas as possible" So Pinellas county commissioner's "Are okay" with them moving over the bridge! Then why all the fuss for a temporary location until the Trop is fixed? Lets play the blame game when feet are dragged.

[@moose2021]

Bye bye, Rays. It sure seems like they're definitely leaving Florida now -- the only question is to where they'll move.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

If Stu Sternberg keeps the team, he'll want to be close to his home in New York City. Montreal and Buffalo are the most likely options I'd wager.

[@billlong8385]

Suggestion to Ray's owner: Why don't you find an acceptable plot of land, buy it and build your own stadium?

[@Dratchev241]

the gul of asking the owner to spend his money on this instead of being able to buy a new billion dollar yacht to show off. /s

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

@@Dratchev241 - Just another reason to hate 1%'ers!

[@HunterMaggiacomo]

So what I just gather from this gentlemen is that THEY DO want to continue with the deal… good. Please vote yes. The project has amazing potential. Idgaf about sternberg at this point I just want my rays to stay in the Bay Area, I don’t complain about the drive.

[@rangersfanalex]

Pretty petty. He says he didn’t want to bring up to the Rays that they were going to delay the vote when it sounds like he knew that’s what was going to happen. Seems like exactly a thing that should be mentioned if you want to be a good transparent partner. The Rays did mention that their priority was to stay in the area, although not necessarily Pinellas which doesn’t have the facility anyways.

[@Chudley716]

Bad faith

[@SaberToothBicycle]

Poor DJ Kitty needs a 'Forever Home '.

[@bartphlegar8212]

Hmmm... 🤔...Trop = Coliseum. Brian Scott = Sheng Thao. Tampa = Sacramento. Owners flinging corrosive remarks = Bullying. Yep. The A's and Rays are definitely Siamese twins...And flaccid MLB just spectates while these two franchises (hardly resembling professional baseball teams) liquidate their expansion prospects...Nice!... 😒

[@a.g.jordaniii5025]

Watch out for Utah folks.....it's comin

[@stevenpoint822]

They Can MOVE TO MONTREAL or SALT LAKE CITY .. I Lost MY HOUSE BUT I’M NOT GETTING FUNDING TO REBUILD - $20.00 Parking / $8.00 Water / $8.00 Hotdogs / $6.00 Bag of Texas Roadhouse Peanuts .. AND NEVER A “PINELLAS COUNTY RESIDENT” Appreciation Day .. Them Move To Steinbrenner Field instead of BRIGHTHOUSE FIELD in Clearwater .. MOVE TO MONTREAL or SALT LAKE CITY

[@mconley600]

Montreal would love the having the Rays in there city if county commissioners want to bicker where they play at after a hurricane destroyed there stadium and take back the money for the new stadium that speaks volumes to the Rays and MLB. Montreal if I remember correctly already has a stadium built to MLB standards they could play in now

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Best shot if Montreal wants a team in the AL East.

[@sams2960]

Welcome to Salt Lake City . :) SW Florida still has spring training games galore.

[@ddddirge]

Welp, Manfred must be sweating since there won't be expensions on his tenure Rays probably already burned the bridge qith both Hillsborough and Pinellas county If they can't pay for ballpark alone might as well sell the team and let the new owner move Orlando and the Carolinas might be an exotic destination 🤔🤔🤔

[@Douchebigelow666]

And they are gone. Sadly they should never have changed the insurance policy. I’m not a fan of giving billionaires a break but the rays more than likely being on the hook for the repairs are angry and rightfully so. We all know estimates are just that and anyone who thinks it’s gonna stop at 56 mil to fix is addled. It’s gonna be more then that

[@michaelmarkowski204]

Agree. I saw video of the damage to the Trop inside the ballpark - it's much more than just replacing the roof. If they were to bring it up to code again, I have a hunch the final cost would be around double ($100M). I think St. Pete would be wise to tell Sternberg to get lost and have a developer tear down the Trop and have private money pay for a new entertainment district with condos, etc. including the site of the Trop.

[@acebragg5559]

The insurance policy has nothing to do with the issue at hand right now. The city of St. Pete owns the Trop, not Pinellas county.

[@williamlloyd3769]

Move Tampa Bay Rays to Puerto Rico!

[@roberttroy6838]

Yes a place with even more hurricanes, what could go wrong?

[@ChrisGtravels666]

Cool idea actually

[@DaSixtyNiner]

Are they done with St. Pete or Tampa?

[@ianfeuerhake1859]

Screw the stadium and the Rays. Nobody goes to the games anyway, and a new stadium isn’t going to magically change that. Spring training works in FL, regular season doesn’t.

[@alesitercrimson24]

Its because everyone in Florida is a transplant. There is more Yankee fans in Florida than Marlin and Rays fans combined. Thats a problem. A local MLB team isnt gonna work

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

@@alesitercrimson24 - The same could also be said about the other sports too. With that said, Miami and Tampa are a pain, but it can work with competent owners and the right location.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Attendance wasn't great because St. Petersburg is a craphole compared to Tampa itself.

[@ianfeuerhake1859]

@psychopathyoutubeemployees280 don't agree about the craphole part, but even if you were right, would a new stadium in the same area fix the problem? No. Most people complain about the commute

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

@@ianfeuerhake1859 - St. Petersburg is a craphole because MOST people in Tampa Bay don't live there, and for the people of Tampa, it's hell to get there! See also: Phoenix/Scottsdale residents trying to attend Coyotes games in Glendale.

[@David-lx4yb]

Just move across the bay to Hillsborough County. Pinellas County is no longer interested, and that’s OK. Move on.

[@acebragg5559]

People keep saying that but Hillsborough isn't interested either. Not at that price.

[@David-lx4yb]

@ Orange County…? Orlando Rays. I’m not sure how much interest, if any, they have there.

[@mochabean5692]

*sigh* Rays are done in Tampa Bay. Another fanbase gets their hearts ripped out

[@purplesprigs]

They play in the water? It is called Tampa. The bay is just a body of water...and yes, I live here.

[@michaelleroy9281]

​@@purplesprigsYep, 3 franchises are named after a body of water

[@michaelmarkowski204]

@@purplesprigs I don't live there, but I suspect the reason the Rays, Lightning, and Bucs are called "Tampa Bay" is because they want the citizens of all three of Tampa, St Pete, and Clearwater to consider the teams theirs.

[@91_C4_FL]

@@purplesprigsI’m also a Tampa resident. “Tampa Bay” (in reference to sports teams) refers to the 12th largest media market in the US, not the body of water.

[@GeraldM_inNC]

I know the Rays have passionate fans, but there just aren't enough of them. Baseball in Florida does not work.

[@bluhrry7635]

The rays should’ve been the team to move to Vegas not Oakland

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Division realignment becomes interesting if that happened. AL West: L.A. Angels, Las Vegas, Oakland, Seattle, Kansas City AL Central: Houston, Minnesota, Texas, C. White Sox, Cleveland AL East: Detroit, Boston, Toronto, N.Y. Yankees, Baltimore Texas teams are going to stay together (sucks to be Kansas City). Cleveland outpoliticked Detroit for the final AL Central slot back in 1994 (the first year of the 6 division alignment).

[@lRaf_1]

Hopefully the Rays relocate to Las Vegas instead of the Athletics

[@ozarkharshnoisescene]

as a Florida hater this fills me with joy. Tampa tried to take away the white Sox with their garbage stadium and now the shoe is on the other foot 💖

[@mmcgahn5948]

Maybe you should seek help if you are a “Florida hater”…. Especially if you are from Chicago of all places

[@ozarkharshnoisescene]

@mmcgahn5948 enjoy your high homeowners insurance premiums before you lose your coverage entirely 🌈

[@ROBsWatchin]

Its a bad location.

[@acebragg5559]

I agree. They'll draw more for the first few years and then they'll be right back where they are now. They can never overcome the fact that 80% of the market for their product lives on the other side of the bay.

[@AustrianPainter14]

There are too many teams. It doesn’t matter where you move them. There will always be a few of them that can’t get fans no matter how good they are. The stadium hostage thing is ridiculous because it’s a business model rather than a one-time thing from the 1990s-2000s as advertised. They do it every 10-15 hears now instead of every 30.

[@ronclark9724]

Usually good teams draw better than poor teams, notice Oakland did... Apparently Florida is an exception with too many other tourist attractions from the horse tracks to the dog tracks to the numerous amusement parks, as well as the beaches....

[@michaelmarkowski204]

@@ronclark9724 Not during storm season (which also happens to be baseball season).

[@jasonmiles1151]

I find it convenient, but this guy statements, putting it on the team using the team or their spokesperson through the team to end the deal. Yeah, the owner probably shouldn’t have opened his mouth, but ultimately these commissioners got the final vote.

[@genoesposito2895]

Orlando bound

[@77-ty7gb]

Orlando??? Not even in the discussion

[@pixelfan17]

Dude this guy said play in the same area with 8000 capacity so dumb

[@BlackSaiyan24]

Listen. My brother and many friends of mine live in St Pete and some of their homes suffered mightily. They need help to be back on their feet, baseball doesn’t help. Fix their roads, homes and businesses!

[@acebragg5559]

The money that Pinellas is voting on can't be used for that. It's strictly for tourism. It can be used for the beaches and that's the big reason the vote got delayed the first time. Pinellas wasn't sure what FEMA would cover so they didn't want to spend what would amount to $600 million on a ballpark if the beaches needed more money than what FEMA would cover.

[@BlackSaiyan24]

@ did not know that, thanks

[@Alan-lv9rw]

Move to Charlotte.

[@spi6455]

Let the Rays walk. They're not bringing in as much as you think they are. The NFL and NHL bring in all you need. Summer is tourist season. The hotels will be fine.

[@sportsMike87]

Think the Rays owner has something on Manfred if they haven't been forced to leave until now

[@jefffleurimont6004]

The expos will be resurrected

[@grafikfx1]

Besides damage from hurricane. How does a team that’s what 20years old or so think building a new stadium is better that repairing the one that is still newer than 60% (or more) stadiums currently in MLB? How long did the MLBs winningest team, Yankees, play in Yankee Stadium before they rebuilt the new one? This is a clear ploy to leave the area.

[@michaelmarkowski204]

Still not sure how Scott feels about Sternberg....?

[@michaeloptv]

I hate mixed signals. MLB says they will do everything possible to stay in the “Tampa region”. Rays owners are essentially saying we’re moving on and seeking potentially other cities. Oh joy! 😪😬😐

[@91_C4_FL]

If the Rays leave Tampa Bay, they’ll leave the state. Also, expect to see the Marlins in Orlando in 2048 if they’re left as the only FL MLB team.

[@theprismaticbee]

Giving public money to an MLB franchise is not an effective use of the $$. It can do more good being spent on other things, sure. But every baseball fan in the county will know whose fault it was when the team goes somewhere else, and they will vote accordingly.

[@theprismaticbee]

I mean, Oakland couldn't recall John Fisher, but it was possible to oust the mayor

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

@@theprismaticbee - The Tampa politicians also deserve to be voted out since the Rays should be playing in their city to begin with.

[@sweetmapleleafs]

Good for Tampa Bay for not giving in! You think St. Petersburg is going to crumble and die because a team doesn't play 81 games in a stadium? To all MLB owners: You want a stadium, you want to stay in that city? *Finance your own buildings!* It should be part and parcel. It should be the law of the land for goodness sake!

[@randycoryer6399]

Put the Rays in a city that wants them….Charlotte, Nashville, Montreal (the Ex-Rays), Salt Lake City, or Portland. The sooner the better…MLB needs stability!

[@scotttild]

Maybe people have finally started to say enough is enough. Let them build it on their own darn dime. These wealthy owners can take out a loan like the Giants did over 20 years. They were sitll able to be competitive.

[@BoulderCityBlues]

At least Nashville would keep them in the east and would make the most sense..They would just need a name change ..Not too many stingrays in Nashville..

[@b1air77]

The hits keep coming. Thanks for all of your coverage @brodiebrazil

[@georgehand]

If Rays fans need a shoulder to cry on I know exactly what you’re going through!!!

[@Hogtownboy1]

Wow

[@LILDOGGY9922]

Wow… I feel bad for Rays fans. As a former A’s fan I know this too well. It looks like they may just relocate. I can’t believe MLB is allowing this and the A’s situation to play out

[@Brandon-qd2lb]

Can vinnik save them??

[@alesitercrimson24]

Tampa Bay isnt in an area geographically to have any sport teams anymore. This includes the Bucs. Weather is only going to get worse in Florida as years go on. Its not worth millions of tax payer dollars to pay for these stadiums there anymore. Plus people in Florida dont care about professional baseball locally. They rather support their teams from where they are transplanting from. There is more Yankee fans in Florida than Ray and Marlin fans combined.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Plus people in Florida dont care about professional sports locally. *Fixed.*

[@ericedwards3055]

I appreciate the gentleman telling his side of the story. I want and think they should stay in st pete. St pete has started to become more appealing than downtown tampa. I agree with him that stu probably wants the deal to fail.

[@Kalbuir66]

Everyone in these comments keep saying "stadium" as though that's all that was being built. That entire area was going to be built up and revitalized. Everyone also keeps saying Stu just wants out....well, it seems like the city wants out just as much for some reason after making promises(that they've broken) to the team. Now the whole thing has turned into some pissing contest by petty children on both sides.

[@raymondhofer1783]

So sad

[@Drummer8282]

They’re going to Montreal. Don’t forget that the Rays wanted to play HALF their home games in a new stadium in Montreal just a few short years ago. Therefore, someone in Montreal is willing to build them a new stadium and that someone is already familiar with the Rays ownership - probably Bell Canada. Bell Canada recently sold their stake in MLSE ( Maple Leafs Sports & Entertainment ) for $4.7B CDN. They would have needed to raise money for something or likely wouldn’t have sold their MLSE stake and buying all or half of the Rays and a new Montreal ballpark seems about right.

[@77-ty7gb]

Tampa doesnt deserve the Rays. The fans and the government do not support them. Nashville will. Montreal will. MOVE the team.

[@acebragg5559]

They're not in Tampa. They're in St. Pete. Those are two different places.

[@77-ty7gb]

@acebragg5559 And? They are not supported, period... move.

[@JoeCroft-ki4yu]

Let’s get this clear,they don’t belong in st Pete,the trop was a wonderful place to see a ball game,the RAYS don’t belong there,to get there was a mess,build a stadium east of the town,dummies the biggest part of the population is not in the gulf,I don’t think that the future of baseball is safe in Florida,how can you folks mess this up any worse,how do the RAYS think that they were not responsible for this mess also,nobody wants to support a last place team,any time that they put a team worth supporting they sold them (players) off.why? Because nobody wanted to drive 3 hours to st Pete to see them!!!!!! LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wake up

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

St. Petersburg are idiots like Glendale, Arizona (when they built that arena for the Coyotes). If you want a team, go after the Buccaneers for the same reason why the Cardinals work in Glendale. 8 to 9 regular season home games for football teams.

[@garfieldsmith332]

"ya know", "ya know", "ya know". NO!! We don't know.

[@seanm3616]

If they can't get a deal by December, MLB needs to step in, and force Steinburg to sell a stake to help pay for this, force him to sell outright, or give him a year windows to find a city that will basically pay for everything. Salt Lake is shovel ready. And i believe Nashville is as well? Could be wrong on that... it doesn't make sense to put money into the Trop if they're either moving, or building something new. That area was decimated by storms. That money for the Trop could go to other things needed more.

[@alesitercrimson24]

Tampa shouldnt have any sport teams. Hurricanes are going to be a huge problem there for the foreseeable future

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Wrong! The owner needs to stop wasting money on stupid yachts and to build the stadium himself in Tampa.

[@seanm3616]

@@psychopathyoutubeemployees280 I won't dispute that. But if he can't afford it on his own, then sell a stake, sell outright, or fund a city/county/state dumb enough to pay for it themselves

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

@@seanm3616 - No, taxpayers should not be paying for a PRIVATE ENTITY!

[@seanm3616]

@psychopathyoutubeemployees280 i don't disagree. At all. But you know some end up doing it