RB3 - Through The Fire And Flames - Pro Guitar Expert Leaderboard #1 (hand zoom)

[@acai28]

@noob69ish I think Guitar Hero are the "Real Bastards" here.

[@axoh3202]

Hey remember this?

[@spookitanuki]

@@axoh3202 i don't

[@kjl3080]

bruh

[@kdonwonton779]

Pepperidge farms remembers

[@kjl3080]

@@kdonwonton779 Pepperidge farms always remembers

[@AlexBayani]

I give mad props for this dude for even attempting it, let alone putting in the effort to practice it and having the balls to put it at the top of the leaderboard. Mad props dude, hope you can 100% this one day

[@krisorgan]

I say bullshit that anyone alive could legit 100 percent this song. God himself wouldn’t be able to.

[@Firebreath99952]

And I thought this song couldn't get any harder

[@kikook222]

Don't worry if you can't play this IRL. Neither can the band live.

[@anepictrollman1]

They can play it, but they do poorly.

[@username55ify]

You're right, they couldn't A decade ago. Now they've gotten better.

[@cameronronanwelshbeast7243]

Really, they can't? I can, took time tho

[@user-xw6uh3yp7g]

Cameron Ronan Welsh Beast they can now, but not back in like 2006 and sjot

[@cupcakkerobber]

saw them a few months back. they finally learned it lol

[@silentrumbl3206]

Pro guitar looks hard

[@orbitalwig8333]

No shit

[@virustheinjex3361]

it's not that hard 1is top rest down then 1-5 go up or down rest is slide always down then hit the right string. boom.

[@javiermacias3401]

VirusTheInjex yea but your hands will be more tired lol

[@stevenlogan531]

Harder that hard

[@xX_cumtech_Xx]

bruh

[@somecomposingfudsa]

I look at this and look at the Rocksmith chart. . . It's easier to see the notes on the Rocksmith chart.

[@Airtrooper719]

Rocksmith interface is horrible compared to RB3 pro.

[@NickHa]

Probably because RB has to fit the other 4 instruments on screen too.

[@WarDimensionRhythmGames]

@@Airtrooper719 Owh... I just thinking why you said that Rocksmith interface is horrible, and I just remember there's the 1st Rocksmith, and I agree it's pretty horrible... Luckily Rocksmith 2014 fix that problem...

[@J0hnny0hm]

The fact that you didn't get a very good rating doesn't change how insane that the very attempt of this song is. You, sir, are a beast.

[@masonrobertson9687]

Considering the actual song has three guitars playing, you can't really compare the two. This seriously looks pretty damn impressive as is.

[@HappyWheelFan2013]

This is a real guitar to the ppl saying pickup a real guitar. Its a MIDI guitar. But you can also use it for rock band 3. It'll also work for rocksmith, bandfuse, etc. My point is, this is technically a real guitar

[@Carepackage65]

Noah's Music Showcase it actually isnt, you can't change tunings, you can't bend notes, you can't do pinched harmonics. it's not real.

[@HappyWheelFan2013]

Carepackage65 You get where I'm coming from though. It's a great way to learn and play on the fly

[@Carepackage65]

Noah's Music Showcase now that, I can agree with, but I'd still say get a real guitar or at least the Ibanez that has the Kaoss mini pad

[@HappyWheelFan2013]

Carepackage65 It all comes down to personal preference I would say. I personally prefer a real guitar as well. I currently own an epiphone les paul a fender custom strat a squier strat, a silvertone acoustic and a 1970's Terada Japenese acoustic import. I also have a first act 1/2 size for when I wanna grab something real quick or think of a cool chord progression xD I'm thinking of picking up another les paul sometime soon

[@Carepackage65]

Noah's Music Showcase I own a epiphone les paul as well, I have a schecter C1 research diamond series, and I got a dean dimebag Wanted ML for christmas

[@Spironic]

Pause at 2:22. Okay seriously, how are you even supposed to be able to read that...?

[@gamingjoey3979]

ikr

[@chriscoughs5774]

The only circumstance where that makes sense to me is extreme levels of Hyperspeed.

[@dennisandres6183]

@@chriscoughs5774 but then u cant react fast enough to the notes

[@chriscoughs5774]

@@dennisandres6183 I have personally trained myself to be good at insane levels of hyperspeed.

[@WarDimensionRhythmGames]

If there's a practice mode (which I don't know if the game has it) then you can slow it down to memorize it...

[@KoRnyMFer]

when playing this game, do you actually look at the screen? or just focus on memorizing the song? because it seems like the numbers fly by so fast that it's pointless to even look at them.

[@randomstuff508]

Both

[@jonnieb4]

I play guitar and rock band pro guitar along with rock smith. I have never once remembered a song by playing it on screen.

[@M4DM4N789]

dude I give you all of the props in the world. There is NO WAY I'd be able to play it on real guitar so you did way better than I ever could have :) Great job dude.

[@dinokid981]

To any "play real guitar nub" commenters: Pro Guitar on RB3 IS real guitar, the controller can be used as a real guitar.

[@Carepackage65]

dinokid981 it isn't real guitar, you can't pull pinched harmonics, you can't bend notes, hell you can't tune any differently. it's not real.

[@Loxu69]

its not a real guitar but technically you can learn real guitar from this

[@fooannihilator1065]

this is a midi controller, not a real guitar the Squier is a real guitar. This does have a full fret board and 6 strings but in the end, it's still pushing buttons but just with a bit more complexity. The Squier is a real guitar not this, this is just a standard guitar hero controller but it's closer to a real guitar. To properly learn guitar you need one with strings to fret, just because you can play on this doesn't mean you'll be good at real guitar.

[@cameronronanwelshbeast7243]

dinokid981 tbh I find guitar hero harder than real guitar. No idea why I just do. Probably because I've only recently been playing gh and been playing actual guitar for longer than I can remember

[@seanhayes6224]

You can also plug in a real guitar and use it

[@ghgodsexposed]

this is just stupid... its impossible to do this perfectly since the song was made with 2 lead guitars

[@cameronronanwelshbeast7243]

But this is main lead

[@DannyDog27]

How are there two lead guitars if they’re not playing the exact same thing thus making it a moot point? Regardless, it’s charted as a single guitar playing a single guitar’s part.

[@fingerboardtv313]

Respect

[@LukeVader77]

Holy crap! Dude I probably would have failed that in the first few seconds of the song. o.o GJ man.

[@nicolasfigueroa4429]

has rock band gone too far? this is one step away from actually playing a guitar, btw good work dude, you passed it... thats enough to let me know you are kinda pro at this...

[@2007excalibur2007]

Nicolas Figueroa No, they took a step back, because they discarded Pro Guitar in RB4. r.i.p in pepperonis

[@nicolasfigueroa4429]

RB4 its still not out, I bet they will include a feature like the Pro Guitar later on, maybe even connect a real guitar as u can do in rocksmith

[@2007excalibur2007]

Nicolas Figueroa nah bro, Harmonix already confirmed it. No Pro Guitar/Bass/Keys for RB4. just Pro Drums. :p

[@darkrta]

+Steven Nicke This is still trying to keep the feel of rock band.

[@erick3003lel]

Im from the future, rb4 only have pro drums and the worst setlist of the saga

[@veggai]

Asking from 2021, how does it feel to be a fucking baller?

[@rashaadhenderson3160]

well it's been 5 years since the upload, I'm sure he could fc it now

[@TS_Mind_Swept]

wow, it has, i wonder where that video is.

[@partitionhlep]

this is literally impossible... i would be shocked if a group of people pulled off a ttfaf fc with pro instruments

[@dvon1097]

Fuck that pro guitar shit id rather learn the song by reading the tabs

[@dino3965]

tabs are awful, they teach you really bad habits. better to learn songs by ear

[@brendangibson8200]

+dino Ummmm, how?

[@Broshadian]

+dino you're an idiot

[@rogernunes4795]

Tabs aren't a bad habit, what I'd call a bad habit is to post this bullshit comment on KZbin

[@rogernunes4795]

Jason Bond the easiest way to learn guitar, is playing a guitar

[@kjl3080]

its harder on this controller than on real guitar, because the game doesn't pick up the tremolo picking correctly

[@12345DJay]

i'm confused. so damn confused, i have no idea what's goin on

[@bowens9211]

if you know how he looks like you wouldn't say that lol. It all matters on looks these days

[@bowens9211]

Eddy B you need better comebacks than that

[@eddyb2302]

+Bowens92 i think you need a better education dude it wasnt even a comeback because i didnt have to comeback from anything 😂😂😂

[@bowens9211]

Eddy B that's what I said you need better comebacks lol. Grammar talk or saying it doesn't make sense isn't one lololololol.

[@eddyb2302]

+Bowens92 😂😂😂 kid go to bed literally i was saying your comment made no sense to what the guy said and you are all like "you need better comebacks" lol do you know what a comeback is? a comeback is pretty much an insult to someone who just roasted you, which you hadnt said a word to me before therefore you need the comeback 😂😂😂😂

[@AdderTude]

This is Rock Band 3. The dude's playing TTFaF on Pro Expert which has the actual fingerings of the song. This makes the song THE hardest to play (which is a Guinness Video Game World Record).

[@MarekTheProducer]

6:53 purple snake??.

[@Juantotish]

@Arcticfox614 U mad men, of course there are many song that might be even harder on pro guitar than in real guitar. but through the fire and flames is much much harder than what this video shows in the real life. PD: i'm impressed with this video

[@ypoora1]

"Is this how you guitar?"

[@xtrem3rd]

Fun fact: Rock Band 3 + the Pro Guitar controller costs about 200-250 bucks. A decent guitar clocks in at over 300 bucks AT THE VERY LEAST, not counting amps, other equipment and fees for a tutor if you don't want to figure everything out by trial and error. Moreover, Rock Band 3 contains precise instructions on how to play the guitar and precise instructions on how to play several dozen songs - several hundred if you count DLC. Playing a fake guitar is MUCH cheaper than real guitar.

[@OrangeHarrisonRB3]

The PS3 leaderboards are non-canon anyway :P But seriously, still a good vid after all these years

[@Smithy616]

Orange Harrison still he's using no fail mode! look at the description

[@gamesurf16869]

This plastic Mustang he's using just one of the controllers available for Pro Mode. There's also a Fender Squier that's been specially made to work with the game. Plus, there's the larger song library, the awesome online community, you can play 10 instruments instead of 2, and the charts are generally more accurate. And all of this came out a year before Rocksmith.

[@AmyraCarter]

You say your hand positions are wrong; for the octave strumming ('Rampaging Dragons'), the Piano Positioning is correct. You'd hurt yourself if you were to play it the normal way, Carpal Tunnel being the LEAST of your worries...

[@MRirianXD]

Why are you guys bagging so hard on this guys, I give em props for even knowing how the fuck to use that thing. I'd like to see one of you pass this song on this "pro level" of which you speak of.

[@cmoney25801]

I bet herman li himself couldn't even 5 star this

[@kirkswahpedal3467]

Well he can actually play the song

[@Texy88]

@RezzedGuitarHead I don't blame you. GH has been eclipsed by RB3's new pro modes and addition of keyboard and vocal harmonies. There are also over 3000 songs in the RB universe, many of which are playable in RB3.

[@celljr5915]

Holy sh#t

[@colonelcocoa]

@Scsigs You can choose to play the regular plastic controller with the buttons and not on pro mode. Its just neat that Harmonix decided to try to teach people how to actually play the instruments

[@Lighthalzen]

i dont understand this real guitar controller x.x

[@Lighthalzen]

Eeyup :c

[@Lighthalzen]

jajaj xD se nota

[@Lighthalzen]

yo se ingles desde los 8 -tengo 14- y aprendi mas solo que en mis clases. ...cual es algo triste xD

[@Lighthalzen]

No, SI tengo 14 xD

[@ChiFan96]

this makes regular guitar on expert look like a walk on the beach.

[@GoddessDummer]

Not prefect but way better then I could do. Good Job

[@Daequil]

I'm pretty sure only the actual guitarist could do perfect this song is hard enough on a 5-button Expert nevermind a Pro guitar.

[@JJStylies]

Daequil even then, remember that this is both of the two dragon force guitarists's solos. so maybe its no one

[@Airtrooper719]

Daequil I would confidently put my life savings on the fact that not even the band members themselves would FC this using a Mustang pro guitar....guaranteed!!! It is not very good for tight alternate picking and because the string zone is so small, you cant properly fit your palm where the strings enter the bridge, technique must be altered in many ways to cater for faster songs, whereas a normal guitar you got a lot more room to work with, string tension (which the mustang lacks any proper rebound/feedback from strings) and gauge to aid in playing without having to double check which string your hitting. And to top it all off, a solo is based around a variation/combination of certain scales, e.g. blues/ionian/dorian/lydian/mixolydian/phyrgian, 99% of all crazy guitarists do not know their own solo's note for note, they simply follow a set pattern of scales. This is why you will hear different sounding solo's live from big dogs such as joe satriani, john petrucci and kirk hammet is very well known for not playing his own music note for note.

[@AdderTude]

And Rock Band 3's guitar controller was what probably what helped bring the Guitar Hero series to an end.

[@dracelestemd]

Where's your crowd meter? I don't think you're doing well.

[@bowens9211]

if you know how he looks you wouldnt say that lol. It all matters on looks these days

[@thatdude359]

ACMD you fucking do better than bitch ass, OH SHIT I FED IT!!!

[@charliel48]

I stand up and applaud you!!! (Clap Clap Clap) Well done good man

[@PsychoMonkey4212]

Stop, put that down, practice a real guitar for 6 hours a day. You a really fucking talented, get in a band and go!

[@kikook222]

That is a real guitar. He's playing the real song.

[@tinyj96]

Bumbleness Supreme Brady are you fucking blind?

[@waynecusick7731]

@@tinyj96 are you blind? It's a midi controller that is near identical to a real guitar. But you can use the Harmonix Fender Squire, and it will be the same shit with an actual guitar. Get some glasses.

[@tinyj96]

@@waynecusick7731 surely 6 years later you're not trying to tell me playing a midi guitar is the same as playing a real guitar.

[@waynecusick7731]

@@tinyj96 6 years later I'm telling you with a midi adapter it works exactly the same. Sincerely a professional musician....

[@Awsumdude234]

He started recording when he was picking the difficulty and instrument, right after he picked the song. If you had RB3, you would know.

[@pabloiuri4386]

I do not understand , is not better to play a real guitar?

[@Airtrooper719]

Its better than playing 5 buttons. Its also better to play a guitar amped if you don't find it fun beating scores.

[@TheMansionWorld]

It is technically a real guitar, since you can use it as a guitar through means of MIDI.

[@Airtrooper719]

I play guitar and pro guitar, pro guitar (mustang anyway) is harder to play than a regular stringed instrument due to the tight frets and loose nylon-type strings

[@TheMansionWorld]

Glenn M it's pretty much a Z-Tar knockoff.

[@Airtrooper719]

Keanu Huezo Whats a Z-tar lol?

[@LegacyWolf51]

Man Pro Guitar looks so beast, but at the same time. I have no experience playing it's different feel xD Good job man. :D

[@linkskyward1]

and this guy is the number 1 in the leaderboards and even he had to use the option to not die to finish the song

[@krisorgan]

I can’t believe they thought making this thing was a good idea. How on earth are supposed to keep track of the numbers, especially for a song like TTFAF? Great attempt at the song by the way. The fact you even finished it is astonishing.

[@Ginsufe]

I played Guitar hero/rockband to the point where i got 5 stars on TTFAF expert. I think it helped me pick up real guitar alot faster than i would of if i didnt play this so much. This game builds hand eye coordination which is a key part in playing real life intruments. never heard about any studies like he said, but id believe it.

[@KAKLOUKY]

Exactly, Rock band and Guitar Hero are highly addicting to play cause they are music you love to listen to. And I can never get a song to sound exactly like them because everyone is different in how they play it. Some people don't understand.. :\ but anytime ^.^

[@Deathwish42]

@StickFigure690 No it is actually spanish acoustic guitar. 1. they often play it on synth live for the simplicity but here watch?v=EOy5ouSNs1s you can see they play the intro on acoustic guitars live. 2. The people that chart these songs for these games have access to the original master tracks to the song which means they can seperate out all of the parts to hear what is really going on.

[@AdderTude]

This is the way to become a TRUE Guitar Hero!

[@jediknight588]

You, sir, deserve a like!

[@firepants20]

Actually, I know a few people who purchased this guitar without having any experience playing a real guitar and in over 2 years of playing Rockband pro songs they can now pick up a real guitar and play some of the songs that they do in game. It teaches you how to play the guitar, but only the songs you play and the cords in them, not how to make original music or anything more complex and unique.

[@imdascottman6853]

Brother, you ARE a rock legend.

[@music18500]

It's like going to school or going to school in the sims game, or going to Spain instead of going there on Google Earth; You actually get something out of it.

[@AdderTude]

Now let's see Dragonforce play this song on Pro Expert.

[@inverted5712]

I now feel bad for Herman Li and Sam. You are in my thoughts and prayers always.

[@AnEpicFatalityArchives]

Actually it's true... It's because as people play guitar hero, they develop hand coordination and make their finger move faster than usual. Yes, a GH guitar and REAL guitar are two different things, but both require your hands and fingers to move at certain speeds.

[@AngelWingSora55]

I will say, this takes some skill. Screw what other people say that was pretty damn good. People only insult because they can't do it. Keep practicing and you'll be a beast lol.

[@CadesProductions]

The oly actually "strings" on the guitar are where you pluck. Where you put your fingers to play cords; those are tiny buttons. And they aren't even strings, they are a durable rod.

[@nvishel]

it helps practice hand-eye coordination, wich is realy useful when playing a real guitar

[@AngelusDarkshadows]

Fender Mustang built for the game. You can also use it as a Midi controller for your pc

[@boyoboyySH]

@CMM7077 Firstly it's Harmonix, not Hamorix. Secondly, The intro is acoustic guitar but it is played on the keyboard LIVE.

[@foufoufun]

@PolitotheSoloist Still, if he learned to play this song only with the game, I have an immense respect for that guy. I myself bought a midi cable after buying that guitar so I can practice on my own on a computer. The only thing missing in this game (and the most important one) is a free play mode. How do you want me to practice the chords if the song keeps going? and I have to wait for the practice part to get back to the beginning to retry.

[@xiousrougex]

That was awesome

[@Truth99Seeker1]

that looks like a brutal song to play for pro guitar. u must have had to practice for hours at a time to get good at playin that. i congradulate u. just keep working at it and im sure that u will be able to play every note perfect in no time

[@atari3200t]

I literally laughed out loud when he got to the sweeping part. Good luck guitar hero/rockband players!

[@heartshapedlife2]

If you're playing on Xbox, they're about 80 or 160 MS points each, which is about a dollar to 50 cents.

[@Thalln]

you know rockband sells adapters to plug into an actual guitar to play with? and it does give you the proper strings, it just goes to the 17th fret, which is still a full octave

[@TheCheezFace]

You'd think comments would have changed in GH/RB videos, but they are the same as they were in GH2 videos back in 2007.

[@iGotTheDour]

It looks so simple yet so hard !

[@EuriLochus]

Guitar Hero and RockBand actually helped me immensely with learning hand coordination with drumming and fretting. So... To each his own experience?

[@ObsidianOverture]

Gotta give him credit for trying. All no fail mode does is prevent him from getting booed off stage. Although the guitar is ridiculous.

[@music18500]

so's that it; you just want to compose music to attract women? That is just a bonus, Music composition is much more than that; It is an art, an expression. Music describes the composer, how they think, how they perceive the world and depicts creativity. Music also engages all senses, yes even taste; your mouth salivates when listening to different genres, you get goose bumps etc. Music is as some say "Language of the soul", a very true observation, and what I aforementioned proves thus. -A

[@gonzi619]

OMFG! Awesome!

[@PupdudePwns]

If using a Pro Guitar means using a real guitar thats MIDI compatible, this guy does.

[@firepants20]

$50 for this guitar on Mad Catz website right now, that's a steal since the original price was $160 You could also get the fender strat for $100 that simulates full strings through the entire guitar. At least I believe it was the strat.

[@menton3000]

Wow that was so realistic the way you play that guitar with you hand on the top

[@SuperCeller]

@xIRxGRIMxKCx ? Not sure what you mean, but I was talking about listening to the actual song, not just this video.

[@AIexanderTM]

"Hey guys, I have a great idea... let's make them play the keyboard intro!"

[@pianoPS3TML]

i was suspecting his hands to set aflame at any moment

[@edschramm6757]

man, now i feel like a punk for thinking that it couldnt be that much harder than normal guitar expert.... no way in HELL i could do anthing there, athough to be fair i cant play normal expert either.

[@mahboi1100]

No, it's not. It's two harmonized acoustic guitars. I've seen them play it live twice. Not only that, but if you listen closely, you can hear that in between each note there's a subtle G note, just as there would be if you played it real on guitar.

[@JohnSkene12]

I got the squire strat. It is battery powered and, like you said, can be used as a Midi controller for PC. It's a real guitar as well, game or no game

[@PupdudePwns]

That's exactly what Pro Guitar is, minus a couple little details here and there.

[@Royalleague45]

I saw a few 4x multipliers and that’s enough convincing for me

[@mrevilmonkey92]

Pro guitar is much better than ordinary guitar hero because u can feel pro guitar like real guitar.

[@gkcl1]

Overhand... LIKE A BOSS!!!

[@topguz1297]

Bravo keep this up buddy I am not good at this kinda stuff but holy crap this takes talent.

[@2LukeLOL]

u my friend have earned one more subscriber

[@mariosaphie]

How you made this video (3 in 1(points,guitar tabs & player)) !!!GREAT!!!

[@kilaita]

You could buy the Squier stratocaster guitar controller, which is a real guitar that's compatible with the game (added sensors under the fretboard). Unfortunately Fender stopped production on it quite quickly, I was planning on replacing my ESP with it, so i could play "with the band", instead of pressing play on winamp and jamming along.

[@silhouettoofaman2935]

And people think guitar hero 3 has the hardest version of this song! Hey, I don't blame you for doing so poorly. If it makes you feel any better, I guarantee you if you gave me that guitar and told me to play it myself, I'd fail it faster than you can say "Through."

[@ABrokenSociety]

As a veteran I have to disagree with you for the fact that in basic you do train with air soft weapons. After basic you go into live fire exercises. The comparison between the two is correct, but it is taught to you as a life and death situation in air soft training for soldiers.

[@ExorcismSaw]

When Through The Fire and Flames came out on Guitar Hero III, they did the same thing. I think most of the intense parts of the song are played on the keyboard but charted on the guitar. Not sure why. Eh. :)

[@JohnSkene12]

it isn't strings, its just buttons layed out on the neck of the guitar. Whatever happens if you break the strings on the lower part, it be bust.

[@MaxBearguy1]

this must be the hardest thing to do in any game ever made, maybe full band fc on pro instruments

[@Thalln]

just because its buttons doesn't mean its not like a guitar? i've learned how to do power chords and barre chords on rb3. just because its plastic doesn't mean its totally different. also they've made adapters that you could plug into a real guitar and use instead of the mustang.

[@SmokeyEdits]

"This game" is called Rockband 3. It says it in the title. It's for major consoles (XBox, PS3, etc). Now learn to read.