Young Thug Engineer Alex Tumay on Recording | Red Bull Music Academy

[@RBMA]

You can read more on Alex Tumay here... ► www.redbullmusicacademy.com/lectures/alex-tumay-lecture

[@coreycarmelo416]

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[@ahmadbriggs3856]

@Corey Carmelo Definitely, been using instaflixxer for years myself =)

[@idrisskyler5726]

@Corey Carmelo Definitely, have been watching on instaflixxer for years myself :D

[@brodybrysen9773]

@Corey Carmelo Yup, I've been using instaflixxer for since november myself :)

[@emmittsutton3561]

@Corey Carmelo Definitely, been using InstaFlixxer for since december myself =)

[@SetMeFree]

I interned at a major studio in Atlanta when Young Thug was recording Thugger Girls, Alex was there a lot of the time and he was really cool. He gives back a lot. Insane experience altogether for me. Even saw Future pull up in his convertible black Lambo. Can't believe I was in the middle of all that now that I think about it. Grateful for it all.

[@BingBongRockety]

did you learn anything recording-wse/mix wise that you'd like to share?

[@SetMeFree]

BingBongRockety I asked him what was the best mixing advice overall he could share with me and he told me to start mixing my friend’s projects for free. Mix anything I can get my hands on. Which turned out to be true because the only way you can become a professional is to have hundreds, eventually thousands, of projects under your belt. Good advice. I didn’t mix anyone’s projects for free but I did start my prices out very low, gradually raising my hourly rate by $5.

[@BingBongRockety]

@@SetMeFree thanks man, i been mixing so much shit lately, just waching videos and shit, i did a 18 track project in like a day but it was very fun and i think i am actually getting better. you have any place i can talk to you maybe you can talk to me, teach me some stuff.

[@SetMeFree]

@@BingBongRockety yeah my instagram is @ dustybrogdon. I can tell you what I know. It's crazy how good you can get using just the stock plugins. Every once in a while, I'll open a project from 2-3 years ago and I'll see how drastic my vocal chain has changed, not so much the plugins but how I set them. Over time, as your ear gets used to the room your in, you'll make little micro-adjustments to your EQ or compressor and it'll make all the difference in the world. I remember at one point Joey Sturgis wouldn't show his vocal EQ because he wanted his students to figure out their own settings. I've been recording as a job for 3 years and I still feel like I'm trash compared to the GOATS but everybody in my town comes to me and they swear up and down I got the juice, haha. You really just gotta be recording people or mixing (FINISHING PROJECTS) to become a beast.

[@SetMeFree]

When I was interning and met Alex, I was ASS as an engineer but I've always been a good songwriter.

[@kb909]

When he mentioned lowering the beat instead of the raising the vocals. Holy shit what a common mistake between engineers AND producers. People always counteract quietness by raising levels instead of dropping them. THANK YOU ALEX FROM THE PAST

[@Rnfjaydee]

Ive always done that😂cause of clipping

[@kingkai4004]

12:57 he talks about the Jeffrey album

[@jadriencollard116]

Goated

[@dead_assassinyt2203]

ily

[@Iv5.7]

Godly for this

[@cadny2176]

🐐

[@zay6153]

Thank god that’s all I came here for 💯

[@PURCELLYOUTUBE]

"I'm not afraid of compression, I'm just not the biggest fan" - dude who put 5 compressors on his mix buss

[@thisisit130]

😂😂😂😂

[@keepmovinent7679]

🤣

[@d.strange289]

he means heavy compression goofy. the whole lecture is about never doing too much.

[@t3rm116]

LMFAO!!!!

[@gravyasmr]

Lmao😂😂

[@h.j.w2783]

Mastering Chain is as follows: 1. Waves SSL G-Master Buss Compressor 2. Slate Digital Buss Compressor (FG-Grey) 3. Slate Digital Virtual Tape Machine 4. Slate Digital Virtual Mix Buss (Virtual Console Collection) 5. Waves L3 Multimaximizer 6. Waves S1 Stereo Imager 7. Slate Digital FG-X Mastering Processor

[@victor42580]

Here is his mastering chain : Slate Digital SSLComp Slate Digital FG-GREY Slate Digital virtual tapes machine Slate Digital Virtual Mixbuss Waves S1 Stereo Imager Slate Digital FGX

[@WABIGVNG]

My nigga

[@Chopstar]

waves sslcomp*

[@yungtenn101]

Victor Malvolti thank you

[@tyquez15]

THANK YOU

[@YoungKye]

missed the L3

[@TRNRILY]

I didn't even notice him saying like, was too busy hearing what he had to say about mixing tracks and working with clients.

[@ilovecody7514]

He forgot about his all time favorite plugin, CLA VOCALS.

[@killamill9534]

fax

[@adamkaktusmusic]

Alex 'CLA' Tumay

[@HaasSpitta]

CLA vocals is nice for quick mixes tbh, when I don’t want to put in all the work for perfection lol, just the general idea

[@Spince28]

This shit really is an art in itself

[@namebrandlosangeles9182]

yes it is. I'm in school for it myself and it aint no joke

[@GreenJake33]

Nu Black Soul im not in school for it and you probably have to play some catch up. It's all about the reps and daily hours of trial and error.

[@namebrandlosangeles9182]

bilbo baggins I've been producing and engineering myself since 05. I taught myself everything I know( before all the KZbin tutorials), always thought engineering and producing was something out had to teach yourself, but once I found out there are schools for I checked in immediately. Though nothing is wrong with trial and error there is no replacement for knowing the actual science so you know exactly what you're doing

[@Typidica]

obviously, producers are the hardest workers much more than rappers nowadays except for like 3% of the lyrically insane

[@durzua07]

Nu Black Soul Yo what happen, did you graduate already? I’m doing Electrical Engineering but I’m really thinking in doing my masters on Audio Engineering...

[@RawUndergroundMusic]

That’s the longest I’ve ever seen anyone in a studio without playing a sound

[@Deshawn6]

Facts. I was waiting for some demos

[@heathsledger]

red bull prob edited out the demos cause of copyright concerns :(

[@patrickwilkie5576]

"Dropbox is full" -- even professionals feeling that struggle

[@jnny7182]

Patrick Wilkie HA

[@boomer3rdeye195]

i will never say the word "Like" again.

[@deebornrich]

Boomer 3rd eye 😂😂😂😂💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@mihndpmr9723]

I wish I wouldn't have scrolled down.. I didn't realize how bad it was till I read your comment. Or he just bets worse as the video goes on I'm not sure..

[@Alton_Roundtree]

I had a teacher in 5th grade keep me after school because I kept saying like. It took me damn near an hour before I realized I said like too much. Reading helps and pausing before you finishing your sentences.

[@fl1325]

Liked

[@jessedutton2474]

Drove me crazy, makes this kind of hard to watch for me

[@mrbass093]

Producers and engineers; take notes. Haters; keep your negative energy with you we don't want that.

[@DmitryPolovka]

Like where should I keep it like?

[@APKSRMKS]

19:07 i shit myself

[@AaaaAa-yf6ku]

APKSRMKS HAHAHA

[@svenlindecrantz3927]

Hahahahahh

[@JayKay-iv5iw]

His philosophies on mixing can help you get out of your own way. Salute!

[@thepeoplespeakmusicJQ]

One thing I would like to say is I'm happy you are explaining to them the music and how it really works. No if's or buts about st8 to the point. But a lot of those kids look a little lost and are rethinking their career right now. Cause you are telling them how it needs to happen. If not you will not last more then first major session. My name is Jordan and I've worked on about 400 major sessions. This career is not as easy as it looks. Have fun and make the most of it and be creative. But don't over think it.

[@elevatetoday]

surely can't hurt to play a few seconds of audio.. apart from that dope lecture

[@Rararahi]

He's nearly giving away his secrets if he played the audio he'd let the entire cat out of the bag. Gotta get paid somehow it's not his job to make us good engineers.

[@reverse2k13]

How would he give away secrets from playing the audio? He already gave his whole master chain and plugins he uses. I think seeing the chains he uses would hurt him more then hearing the audio lmao

[@Esscarrgo376]

I agree I think it's more of a copyright thing. Think about it, this video would be taken down by youtube just like the La Flame Documentary travis had.

[@elevatetoday]

Jon Rahi I've seen plenty mix breadowns from artist that are way bigger

[@Rararahi]

Reverse yeah you're right that is more harmful probably. I just think he is trying to be helpful but not give away his whole thing and if they played the audio for it then we'd know exactly what he does to achieve what he's doing (not that it's anything CRAZY or out of the ordinary.) just my two cents tho.

[@ZHAOS]

that one fucking girl just on her phone, holy shit

[@faraitheprod]

MIght be writing notes,

[@notdaones]

I've been mixing a long time and producing and recording longer. Many amazing learning moments in my life. This is among them.

[@smokoguap]

Can you mix and master me?

[@shane2973]

I saw him talking at the waves booth at namm this year and he seems like a genuinely nice guy

[@MrStupididy]

is this david blaine doing beats.

[@MarsBeats777]

Isaac V doing beats?

[@avalanche768]

all these professionals in youtube comments can't even realize why he can't play audio and get mad about it LOL. made my day

[@IsshmanGarcia]

"Old outdated plugins" means Cracked...NOT hating, just saying.

[@Rnfjaydee]

Fax😂

[@moano3271]

Probably not. As an example.. the various izotope ozone suites sounds different from eachother even with the same settings because of how they are made.

[@Jay-sb2ed]

Who cares tho

[@3rdeye931]

Quit snitching

[@0121doone]

Alright 6ix9ine calm down

[@ovoxo7396]

U can tell 21 recorded in his basement i hear his alarm system beep in songs especially Red Opps

[@jackeylynch]

it was the kitchen/living room.. Atlanta rappers get it out the mud.. there aren't very many basements in Atlanta.. those would get converted into full blown studios.. We wish we could find legitimate basements in Atlanta.. lol

[@Sundji]

I went to go listen cuz I thought you was trippin but like 3 seconds into the song theres a really loud one

[@SlviBoySwag]

ovo xo lol its the smoke/co2 detectors everybody has in their apartments.

[@nell1of1]

This happened to me today

[@frewen20]

6:16 'I don't know if you've heard of that.' ..... still humble I love it

[@OMGKenny314]

I'm mad they had to cut the audio tho 😪

[@sizzle3207]

Young I.G.G. red bull always does this. blame youtube

[@tone_valentine]

for real, it's kind of pointless.

[@senatormendoza18]

prob license /rights issues

[@bsykesbeats]

26:12 I never used the AT4047, but I will say the AT4040 is one the best (if not the best) mic I've ever heard in the $300 or below price range and better or just as good as a lot of mics that are 10x more expensive.

[@hlokomani]

fuck man been waiting for you to press play lmao

[@selphproductions3153]

New drinking game Take a shot every time he says "like"

[@jacknick7582]

i made it 20 seconds and then blacked out

[@Unknownapprenticetx]

i was playin with my friend now he passed out

[@tomrao4]

I just woke up. I was in a coma for 2 years 🤦‍♂️😂

[@imnotjacob.]

I still haven't recovered.

[@asaiya705]

I really like what you said about enjoying the space in the music. I learned to enjoy this through other styles of music I was writing and playing, keeping the dynamics is the way

[@Shu_BLN]

like like like like like like like like like

[@urolderbrother]

so, he was nervous. i was in the room for this workshop and he is pretty brilliant and you're pretty petty.

[@rmnatchez7197]

like like like like like like. If I could get paid $1 evry time I'm talking to ppl that's what you hear every 3rd word. Please say what you mean and mean what you say.

[@Shu_BLN]

ahahah lol

[@rmnatchez7197]

Calm down Bro

[@brianphilips1092]

Shu_BLN he apologized on Twitter lol

[@gmoney8119]

Dude was about to cry talking about DS2 😂😂

[@triplxsix]

like, i kinda, like, i dont know...

[@estebanb7166]

triplxsix It's literally a free education. Everybody complains about everything, huh?

[@deebornrich]

godjira 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@skrublue]

@@estebanb7166 fr bruh

[@kabelothebeeagae6884]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Boissinova]

brave little you and all that public speaking ability on your channel. grow up.

[@LongMasterWolf]

The GOAT

[@YAYYEE]

I wish I was that uber driver, I woulda learned something.(Ps I don't drive uber & I'm in California)I'm gonna try that mixing in the car. I told myself to listen to it in 3 different sound environments before putting it out, but I get lazy & rely on just the studio monitors & sometimes the mix is shitty In the car. But Im back to working harder & checking mixes

[@shavarez]

I tried that and killed my battery smh

[@Rnfjaydee]

Shavarez Smith 😂

[@shavarez]

JayDee bra I was hurt. Had to get a jump from the Chinese delivery man

[@Pwayko]

He said "like" enough to take care of each & every video on KZbin #LIKE

[@ysndrako5380]

😂😂😂😂

[@limittestresearchinstituti5801]

2:59 is so true yet ive never really heard anyone vocalize it b4

[@Ojiggalojuice]

Biggest thing I took from this was " how am I gonna get through this. Like how?" 🙏🏽 good aspect

[@beanbryant1453]

there's always another level man damn everything is hard work lol

[@weswilson8198]

Priceless info...what an awesome lecture!

[@c-ris1629]

2023 still a classic, thx Alex

[@phil1353]

Retiring from The Colts was probably the greatest thing you ever did Andrew. Thank you for changing your name and coaching us on how to mix.

[@georgethompson1535]

9:44 harmony engine 17:30 Two Track

[@Winscotter]

No matter what this dude says he's obviously good at what he does. That's why he has his job.

[@nateyp700]

How can I get in the Red Bull music academy?!

[@nicolasbaillie4506]

by applying :) applications usually go out in january

[@monarc98]

@@daniellane5574 for real, but ima be honest yo - there's so much shit they teach you in recording/engineering school that you can't just look up on google

[@amanisun8293]

Monarc true shit

[@lukex1727]

3:20 What was he saying about Mike Dean? It sounded like he was talking about New Slaves but idk

[@KendrickCreates]

I'm sure there's some dope wisdom being dropped here, but like I can't even.

[@BeatsByMason]

Kendrick Kirk 🤣

[@YTsUnbiasedOpinion]

Thank you. This is just what I needed

[@DjCfade]

Young engineer from Atlanta taking notes 📝🔥

[@rizvantuitahi3292]

shout out to the dude @ 14:24 rockin the dawn raid ent hoodie . nz up !

[@MikeysteelUk]

thank you alex, this is wonderful... youre a legend

[@TenziingYo]

As a novice recording engineer, I'm curious as to how you would go about setting the input levels so that when Dex is going crazy in the booth, the audio signal doesn't clip.. My guess is to set the input gain extremely low, so that his vocals won't go any higher than about -6dB (which is still wayy to hot/loud for an input signal)... Or do they use a compressor on the pre-amp/Audio-Interface to keep the audio signal from jumping..???

[@josephdempsey4217]

Herbie Hancock a huge ratio of compression.

[@brandonuhlemeyer3470]

Herbie Hancock distressor Nuke mode maybe?

[@cmili4039]

They record with outboard compressors and good pres on most artists

[@XXROGUE]

19:07 When you REALLY want to hear what someone has to say.

[@bonds9322]

Damn I watched the whole thing?? Time flys when you’re soaking in gems 😭

[@SeanMariani]

You can learn so much from this video 🙏🙏💯

[@leanhoven]

Just talk

[@АхмедСуфражилов]

Awesome! Thank you Alex and Red bull academy👍🏼👍🏼

[@stolenroars]

guy at 2:55 uses the plugin he's talking about and puts shimmer all over everything

[@OfficialJooseMusic]

Play "Jeffery" in the background while watching this.. Thank me later

[@mikewashington1277]

New drinking game: take a shot every time he says "like"

[@jaecuervoson]

Mike Washington I’m drunk af

[@Sketchysketches16]

More of this kind of stuff please

[@wbw187]

wish the whole video was there

[@YourOnlyFriend5493]

This dude says “like” for every other word . Sheeeesh

[@sagcap7927]

The title says young thug engineer. But! I hope he received a production credit. Because the choices he's making are his. And that's the problem today and yesterday in music. The roles are mixed up or misunderstood. But to each his own.

[@mattsteinfeld]

@26:49 "I like U87's [Neumann] on rappers... they are versatile and always seems to fit the bill...I don't like the TLM103. I am not a fan of Neumann." Huh?

[@stoopidondabeatTV]

no analog gear before this massive chain? pre amp?? why use uad g buss and not the actual gear? do they get used still? i just dont understand why so much "in the box" compression in a analog studio answers??

[@thenikkog2117]

this guy is like the producer version of faze rain lmfao

[@MikeHeebz]

Dope. Would love to see & hear more from Alex on mixing hip hop. There is very little quality videos out here.

[@sm44july]

What artist does he say at 28:05?

[@RBMA]

Youth Lagoon - fatpossum.com/artists/youth-lagoon/

[@amirperry3015]

Dope. Dope. Dope. Thank you for this!!!

[@pskiitv]

Thanks red bull recording

[@BobBobBobBobBobBobBobBob]

is there a reason to not run the REQ 6 plugin before sending for reverb/doubler/delay etc.?

[@Cartman-Official]

I love the way he mixes London On Da Track beats. Specially them kicks.

[@yosephkoehler]

The old thumbnail was a vibe change it back

[@garycummingsjr.6896]

are these kids future music engineers? half of them look uninterested.. others didn't even look like they listen to the music he's referring to.

[@herrowbirry]

people who make the music look different to those who listen to it trust me

[@johngoulart69]

I don't blame them if they don't listen to rappers like 21 Savage

[@greedy4cash]

Arcy Stem Lol one of the best engineers out for mainstream hip hop

[@estebanb7166]

Arcy Stem Not everybody can be an expert like you.

[@keepmovinent7679]

@@greedy4cash 🤣mumble rap

[@adamingram9014]

I wonder if he uses that mastering chain on his mixes before he passes it down to mastering?

[@ReviewPimpUSA]

Wait what??

[@mrbass093]

These are good pointers for sure.

[@Produced.by.nobody]

Said like at least 1000 times

[@soggybread423]

I be using plugins from 2004-8-10 if ur listening to these utubers talking about you have to do this ..... and this.... compressor this.... first of all, remember mostly all newer plugins are coded very poorly , also mostly all youtubers are misleading you this guys advice is very smart

[@Saskiequelle]

12:20 where can I find the DJ spin 808?

[@Ayplus]

Stop biting

[@silas5889]

hit my dm

[@Saskiequelle]

Trying to but cant find it?! Can you hit mine?

[@Lisence2chill]

don't know how to dm u but if i give u my email can u send plz?

[@tynickxo2273]

lol he talks about how dumb it is that everyone was using that 808 and u just come to the comments trying to get it...

[@rosegold-beats]

they don't know they have a legend in front of them

[@JamesStinehart]

I Lol'ed when he said 21 Savage records most his vocals in his basement

[@TheCrewMane]

Youth lagoon is amazing

[@gc1764]

didn't realise he had worked with him. incredible albums. first one if prob my most played album ever

[@hydecobain2836]

What song is he referring too on Yeezus? I've reminded 20 times trying to understand what he's saying.

[@naz4r3th]

Hyde Cobain hold my liquor

[@MrDsmiffy]

Where can i get his hat from ?

[@majorfoxsounds1242]

Alex Tumay is a low key sauce lord

[@BadJopkes]

easily more likes in the video than the video has.

[@gstroyce]

never knew David Blaine was into music Producing! lol

[@sammybwoy]

Petros Hurdas legit was thinking this the whole time 😂

[@gstroyce]

sammybwoy worddd hahaha so mellow like him too 😂

[@peters5090]

SCREECHING

[@terrance2405]

Where did you get your hat ? Is that a goat on it ?

[@antoniogaspar2972]

beautiful lecture

[@Tawp.Player]

25:57 someone cuts the cheese

[@CaesarSuriano]

18:12. So did he chop up Thug's entire vocal? Or did he just piece together different sections from multiple takes of Thug's vocal. He did say this was a 2 take I think at once but I just wanna get clarity for if Thug punched in parts or if he just rapped then they chopped up all the individual sections.

[@johnrodriguez5872]

Mack Jordan everytime thug makes a take he playlists it as in puts away so then thug punches in again and he showed the huge list of takes that he did

[@georgethompson1535]

3:51 mastering chain

[@PowerOfDestruction]

This guy said Like, Like a Billion Times Like!

[@Hamiltonlloyd]

Holy Fuck This Guy Said LIKE 1million Times!!!!!

[@prodbyd740]

Wow this is such good information. Thank you

[@darrion9669]

You do autotune after the audio is recorded? Every one I've ever watched a video from says do the autotune before recording. It makes a little difference in the order of the effects, but that's just the way everyone says.

[@h.j.w2783]

10:32 - Who's the Ben he's referring to?

[@BALTAOFC]

H.J.W want know

[@BeatMakingVideosCom]

Great stuff❕

[@golden2524]

What is the name of the album he is talking about at minute 25:44 ?

[@nichkilmer510]

pretty sure its 'Songs of Pain' by Daniel Johnston