RC Market Chat. Tamiya On Back Foot! The Good, The Bad & The Future Q2 2024

Kick Back with a cold one and take a load off, this one is a long one. In this video, I talk about the vintage market, the highlights, the lowlights and the future predictions from the likes of Kyosho, Team Associated, Schumacher and Tamiya.
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[@keithpowell4664]

Genuinely the best RC video (on KZbin, not just from RC Kicks) Ive watched in ages! We need more RC market discussion rather than look at this new brushless basher…..

[@extec101]

its so much of overpowered basher content on YT that its a relief that RCkicks do some other content and show of the reres and cars that usualy dont see the light of the day or that i where not aware of that existed.

[@drewp9112]

i agree about Losi, talk about missing the boat, hell they didnt even know the boat was at the dock.

[@buildrestorecustomise2060]

Please don’t raffle off your collection to get the track, the track will come with time but some of those car are almost irreplaceable!! As for the predictions, I would like to see Schumacher do some other vintage rereleases that shared the cougar chassis! I would really like to see the shotgun again!! 👍👍

[@nathanwirth9906]

Hi Gavin. You’re one of my favorite RC channels and I’m definitely not a shelf queen guy and only have one Tamiya You’re just entertaining in the RC realm Love when you go racing!!!!

[@RCKickschannel]

Thanks, that’s really kind. Dealing with not so nice comments is part of being a KZbinr’s life unfortunately so a lovely one like this really does make our day. 👍🏻

[@darreldudley8432]

I'd love a Bigwig, that's me showing my age 😂

[@tonycano-ue3wg]

This is the best we want this S a hole in you r show plus serious rumor leaks on upcoming models- love it

[@Nic-bd6bj]

a permanent track is great idea if you want to go banktrupt...

[@extec101]

or as kevin to work hard and earn to much money and the government take half of it till he got resident of "the island"

[@allanritchie1539]

I always watch your videos till the very end. I've watched all your videos to date, just keeping up with the new ones as they come out as they are all very interesting and informative. Keep up the good work we live them all.😊😊😊

[@RCKickschannel]

Wow, thank you!

[@charleswa]

I just checked and I can get a Top Force ReRe for just over $200 US which is a steal for a Tamiya with ball diff's, bearings, and (I believe) universals in the front. I'm tempted to get one to go with my Optima Mid ReRe that was considerably more expensive.

[@tonycano-ue3wg]

The professional collector will invest in the insanely rare that have a very low % of a repop- good luck investing in the obvious repros- love to the Chanel love to this feature and Gavin this had to be a staple but add a little segment of rumors and leaks on possible kits that could be coming . The best keeping up

[@RC-oe8dm]

Great content Gavin! Looking forward to more "chew the fat" videos! Keep up the amazing work!

[@Lonesome_Loser]

I love the raffles. I think they are a great way to support the channel without donating to patreon.

[@durbar546]

I agree Tamiya could make a lot of money rereleasing their vintage catalogue

[@SonnyBurnett85]

I'd definitely sacrifice a few cars to help get a track up and running. I'm sure plenty of people would turn up. You ran those RC Kicks events very well, me and a mate really enjoyed them.

[@lo2713]

Fingers crossed you get the track at some point 🤞 might be worth starting a club at a venue. Rent a hall for 8 hours and build it up from there. The cost of everything is painfull, but moving on some of the collection to help fund it, as a last resort. But i would be buying tickets for the cat, thats for sure lol

[@DavidBernstein-jk3ml]

Great show! I agree on the RC10B6.4cc... the original RC10's have an iconic look at loads of nostalgia, but once they got into the B's I feel like they lost some of that unique look that makes for a great shelf queen. Also, what I'd really like from Team Associated is a regular classic RC10. No numbered chassis, no clear parts, but one I won't feel bad racing around and letting my kids drive. Of course, if I had my way, all cars would be versions of the RC10... remember the monster truck conversions way back when?

[@focuszx]

Also rere rc10t team truck, keep that and the world's buggy in production under $300 dollars and count the money.

[@end_game]

You can't take your collection with you when you finally kick the bucket, but you can make experiences along the way. I say sell some of the collection and make a track. How cool would that be?

[@edwinsmith-jones6205]

It'd be great if R.C. community had their own equivalent to the retro computer/video gamers R.M.C cave. A museum where people can experience the history of the hobby, share memories & a nice track to race their own cars on. Maybe if it incorporated a hobbie shop and possibly a cafe, it could be a going concern?

[@RCKickschannel]

Yep you would need to have an RC shop, Cafe, KZbin studio, and 1/10th carpet track and if possible a drift track and crawler track. All these would help make it work but one person couldn’t do everything themselves. You need a few people to come together to make this viable.

[@edwinsmith-jones6205]

We can but dream.

[@Hamish1968]

If you sell your rare favourites you’ll never get them back. The track dream can wait… good video!

[@duncanmarriott2052]

Turbo Ultima & Toms Kyosho Monster Racer / Kings Cab , 959 , Falcon , Astute OG Tamiya Samurai , ninja , shogun Marui

[@markbates3585]

Rent a hall, thats how we started, now run at 3 different halls between sussex and kent, its still not cheap but drivers will come

[@steveblackbird5174]

Awesome vid Gavin. I agree with everything you've mentioned. Losi doesn't seem to care about the 1/10th scale vintage very much do they? As for Tamiya, Well they announced the Avante 2011 again, so that's something. It would also be nice if they re-re'd parts from older kits too. Imagine if they did a parts run for the 959?? People would go insane. Sadly I think we'll never see that kit again. Prices for them new unbuilt are extreme.

[@xy-wg3wj]

Top video, thank you! ...and yes, try the track. 💪

[@momothemilkman]

I always look forward to this type of video. Nice work as always!

[@IowaBudgetRCBashers]

Yeah Losi definitely needs to rere tge original jrx2 and jrxT. They did the minis and they’re awesome, but we want full on 10th scale

[@paulrobinson9355]

Awesome stuff!

[@ParticularSky]

BT01 was such a downer. I'm really hoping for a TT entry level car successor

[@theoagrc]

TT03 is well overdue

[@Droidy77]

I know what you mean but on the other hand I hope they never do and just keep hopping up the '02. To avoid too many different parts and lack of spares!

[@Meenie66]

I like how schumacher do their re re's. They release the car in vintage form basically then if you want to go modern with it you spend more money on it and upgrade but for ppl like me who dont want to spend extra money and never got them back when they were originally released It gives the opportunity for an original build, and they are not anywhere near as expensive like buying some of the other brands....

[@ahhobby2527]

Really wish you could realize your dream of having your own indoor track and the stuffs around it. You will find the way one day 👍🏻

[@rickzfpv3118]

Gavin great video i live here in the US and i watch more of the videos over in the UK over anything else i grew up racing 1/10 scale, and i still have some but the past 2 to 2 1/2 years all i have been racing is mini z’s 1/18 scale 1 rc cars and 1/16 scale cars as they are the most popular classes here in the US as so many tracks have closed. 1/10 and 1/8 are still popular here but racing has got so expensive here that most people can’t afford it anymore.

[@alaricbragg7843]

Thanks for the video! I found the retro models very interesting! 🙂 I think that this trend will actually play a very big part of the future of this type of modelling.

[@focuszx]

Absolutely spot on Gavin, great video as always.

[@TastierBackInThe80s]

The Gorgon is an absolute star.

[@coreymckenzie8945]

Id have to admit that id spend bill money on a rc10t if team associated re released one .

[@ijdod]

Ultima is very likely, I think. LWB Optima is possible, I think, as would a Lazer be. Now, if Tamiya wanted a money printer, I'd point them at that 959...

[@johnrainbird1155]

Brilliantly brilliant 😊

[@Ultegra10SPD]

Want to end up with a million in the RC business? Start with 2. Dont do a track. -U10

[@mitsuman5555]

Love this stuff 👍🏻

[@fencer39]

A farm building is alot cheaper than an industrial unit also if it was a registered charity then . cheaper rates etc ! School events ....birthday parties etc

[@schuttrostig5729]

Good ideas there, while i miss a TA-01 and a M-01 rerelease from tamiya i think the best would be if they quickly redesign the bt-01 and mb-01 before bringing out anything else. and also best with a refit kit for the owners of these cars that fixes the slop issues.

[@RC4X4]

I wouldn't raffle off your collection. You may never get them again. The track will have to wait. I always dreamed of something like that but it's a scary path to take. Where I live I have seen so many many start and shutdown because of how they were run or the staff. You need to be able to hire the right people too.

[@joedipietro2559]

Yes you are absolutely 110% correct on this. I hope Gavin takes notice of the good advice telling him to not sell his car collection. The track will have to be done slowly and it's going to take time, but once the vintage collection is gone that's it. Can never be replaced. DO YOU UNDERSTAND GAVIN.

[@davidgreen8520]

Great Video.I tend to buy more Vintage Rc,especially Tamiya.Hopefully we will see Kyosho ultima pro.I have noticed this year buying Vintage Tamiya’s,prices have not been as steep as I would of expected.

[@Marco_Vulpine]

Woohoo, indoor track would be awesome 🦄

[@RCKickschannel]

Yes is would.

[@mitsuman5555]

Regarding the track, if you really like the idea you should go for it! I would have said TomleyRC was crazy for renting that big unit, but he seems to be thriving there.

[@RCKickschannel]

Tomley lives further north so unit rental is a good chunk less expensive vs the south as well as his unit is too small for a 1/10th track. It’s a shame he’s not closer as I would go half’s with him as he’s not a bad twat on a big enough unit for a track

[@Droidy77]

If you raffle (a lot of) your collection to open a track, you'll end up bankrupt _and_ with no collection 😯 Seems like you need to be scrappy and work your way up with event organizing like you've been doing (I guess that takes forever), or get a club/society of members who commit and collectively crowd fund it (also risky), or do the sensible thing and just be born wealthy. It's an amazing dream and I hope you can figure out how to do it! But it's a big financial commitment so take care.

[@kieranvirgo9797]

Great video, Tamiya is overpriced in the UK by miles. I buy all my kits from Europe and parts from japan and prices are much more realistic. I have TRF421 on pre-order (and paying far less that the insane UK prices) for a few reasons... parts prices for X-ray, Schumacher, Mugen, Awesomatix and Yokomo are all crazy prices. For instance you pay £30+ for a single arm from those companies. TRF 421 arms for a pair are less than half that about £12. They look different with the Blue Adonising everything else is all black and boring. The prototype car placed 7th at TITC, its first main event with the vast majority of the worlds best drivers in attendance and finally there's a great small group of guys that run TRF cars in the UK/Germany. The SRX again is a bit misunderstood and overpriced in the UK can get them from Europe for around £250. Its actually good value for the spec racing classes that you find in clubs that are for plastic tub cars like King of Clubs, Stafford GT classes etc. and have all the hop-ups you need are already in the kit and a lot cheaper than building up yourself from a type-s or standard TT-02. Finally Germany, USA and Asia all have Tamiya Cup events where the ta08R and SRX all make sense. The UK market for them has been killed off by distributors focusing on the hobby/modelling side rather than racing and not running such events.

[@russellmellors5760]

Hey man love you vids your giving me inspiration to finish my dark impact build only had it 2 years 😂 thanks for the great content 👊🏻

[@RCKickschannel]

:)! I have a few kits like that myself LOL

[@russellmellors5760]

The nice weather is kicking me to get it built to tbh I have no excuses now, it's my first actual build all my other cars I have iv bought built and used so it's my own fault for taking on my then I can chew 🤣

[@TheOttomann64]

Off road track please :)

[@vigilante351]

BBX was an absolute banger, I love the kit, and I customized with better looking wheels and aftermarket bits. LOSI really really should of taken advantage at the time for a JRX kit 1/10. The RC10 re-re and clears, didnt interest me at all. So much crapulence in regards to delivery and stock numbers. The Yokomo 870 would of been my choice, but too pricey here in Australia...especially the Trick Bits kit.

[@scaleworksRC]

Losi won't do a 1/10 scale vintage release because it would cost way too much, I think. That was one of the reasons they said they went 1/12 scale with the Nascars. As for Raffalling off some of your gems, I think that would be a worthy investment.. but choosing which ones is the hard call. I'm learning a lot about the industry listening to someone who's 'been there done that'. I like a lot of Tamiya stuff, but I just saw a video of a Swimming Penguin RC they are releasing. Kyosho has a Datsun 240z rally version coming soon. Not really a tough choice there 😆

[@momothemilkman]

I don't think its an issue with cost for Losi. If you think about it the Mini Jrx2 and T had to be completely designed from scratch, but they just based it on the older models. Really not any more of expense designing slightly larger parts. Either way, I wish they would get with the times and do some rereleases.

[@Ultegra10SPD]

Kyosho needs the Big Brute. Tamiya needs the King Cab/Hi Lux AE needs the RC10T Losi needs to get their head outta their miniature-sized ass….

[@focuszx]

Well said!

[@madvente]

Great update video, as usual! I read somewhere that Robin Schumacher shared with someone that they will rerelease kits up until the Cougar 2000/Fireblade and CAT 2000. I hope this is true and not just a rumor.

[@RCKickschannel]

Fingers crossed!

[@shaunwain9356]

Don't sell collection, hire a hall 1st like once a week and community halls or church hall always need hiring and sell items on behalf of a local model shop for small cut

[@nathanwirth9906]

Hey gav the losi nascar is 1/12. But yes it’s smaller. Losi isn’t to worried bout the vintage market it looks like….

[@RCKickschannel]

Yep I did see that when I watched it back lol. 1/12th is OK, I don’t actually mind that size. It’s more the vintage rerelease cars should just stay the same scale as the originals

[@jecoboost1440]

I can't believe associated. Doesn't offer you a manual book for the rc10 40th Anniversary it is a kit.😮

[@IowaBudgetRCBashers]

Tamiya needs to rere the falcon, the blazing blazer, and many more that us old heads want

[@IIIxwaveIII]

I need schumacher cat swb xl or xls Any of the 3 will do. Thanks you schumacher now get to work

[@danielfiander5731]

I would like to see some decent smaller buggies I currently run a mini z buggy and it's a lot of fun👍🏻👍🏻

[@sandwichman100]

tamiya mini cooper mk1 would be a good one

[@grahamwebb5438]

A track would be awesome! Could you collaborate with other businesses or rc you tube channels, joint ventures?

[@madwrencher1069]

tamiya sand rover rere. would buy 1 or 2

[@SamBalducci]

I would not open up a track until after 2025. Economies all over the world are going to be in trouble and it is not a good time. If industrial areas stay vacant rents will go lower as well. For Tamiya, now that they have a XM-01 Pro, they need to give us a Porshe 959 Rally. The XM-01 is a 1/12 platform as was the original.

[@douggilreath1984]

I picked up a B6.4 CC to have nib, I won’t open it. The Blazing Blazer was an oddity too, so…

[@RCKickschannel]

What made you get the CC?

[@douggilreath1984]

@@RCKickschannel I’ve seen one that a buddy built and thought it was pretty cool, I was surprised. I say I’m not going to build it, but I just might.

[@Con-Brio]

I only collect Tamiya and I prefer re-releases because the vintage plastics are getting brittle and crack too easily... I am really hoping for the 959 and what happened to the re-re Falcon?

[@MrSneakyGunz]

Hard to sell the cc to me because it's more money than a new 6.4 standard racer.

[@RCKickschannel]

Yep

[@timothypimlott7641]

I wish my hobby could win the lottery to pay for a track site

[@rexy_yee8431]

I have heard a rumour the kyosho beetle is most likey not being produced any more

[@prophetate]

Ohh that white hoodie is very nice is it available to buy from outside UK? 😊😇

[@RCKickschannel]

Yep. The logo is in the normal place, not the strange location mine is as that was a test print hoody and the print team made a mistake lol.

[@Mark_5150]

If i were to buy an RC10 40th I'd want to build it and run it, but without replacement parts, I'll pass.

[@RCKickschannel]

Loads of aftermarket parts available for it facebook.com/profile.php?id=100082969317056

[@alfredyost7972]

Did Schumacher discontinue the Mission FT front wheel drive on road car? I am not seeing them anymore. Thoughts?

[@RCKickschannel]

It was replaced by the FT8 I think.

[@alfredyost7972]

@@RCKickschannel Really? Thanks

[@Farney-gy1qo]

Rent a village hall and start a club and work from there. Or talk to the racing club you go to race.

[@Metla666]

The JJ is available everywhere? Everywhere I know of sold out immediately. Anyone know of a shop with stock that will ship to Australia?

[@RCKickschannel]

Sorry can’t say about Australia, easy to get in the UK. I just looked at RCMart but sold out. I would try the Japanese RC sites.

[@Metla666]

@@RCKickschannel Cheers, I found one on RCjaz, Had a minor stroke when I saw the price and decided I would have to find a way to live without one.

[@zonoskar]

I just want an Avante for like 300 euro.

[@rockncoop665]

Did you receive your 40th rc10?

[@RCKickschannel]

Not arrived in the UK yet

[@lrmbvv]

no more Kyosho after the Optima Pro, until they crank out a vintage long wheelbase

[@RCKickschannel]

I think so

[@rogesome72]

Losi has lost so much ground. They are missing the boat on the vintage market completely. The discontinuing of the 22s platform also a missed opportunity. Where Associated's rtr platform is decent and used for everything and has adjustability, I feel like losi cheaped out with the 22s. They should have made it more race ready-ish. Solidly losing their way. #RetroRenaissanceRc

[@durbar546]

dont do the track keep the cars

[@racing393]

Don't go for a track in the selling of cars, it's not a good idea, unless you get a lot of backing or come into some cash........better off to use your own land if there was enough and use this for the channel

[@samildinach99]

dont sell, just fundraise :P

[@stephenkelly8065]

Don’t do it ! Keep plugging away until the Chanel gets bigger don’t run before you can walk. You are now predominantly a buggy channel a bit of a niche market? Time to widen your field like you used to !

[@alunhiggins1539]

Don't raffle stuff, Gav. You'll regret it.

[@user-if8ub6ww5q]

Start a religion around rc start a church there had to be tax benefits in the uk for that.

[@RCKickschannel]

LOL 👌