Epic Value in an RTR 6x6 Hauler? Yes, Please!

[@elduderinolebowski5411]

What a neat truck. There's a lot of scale detail here that might be overlooked in casual examination. The scale realism is pretty impressive for all the things they got right. I'm admiring the rear suspension and axles on this machine. That's a really well done scale inverted leaf spring walking beam suspension, and it even has the lower dogbones and upper wishbones just like the full scale trucks that use the same kind of suspension. I can't help but marvel at how closely it models the tandems on my own truck. Well, mine has single upper dogbones instead of wishbones, but it's otherwise very very similar. This truck is impressively detailed and functional. Really makes me want to add one to my collection. P.S. all that rear suspension articulation is a direct result of that walking beam suspension. On my fullsize truck, the rear dual tires hit the bottom of the cargo bed before they run out of articulation. It's even worse for the guys with super singles (especially the guys who have swapped on HEMTT tires). This thing captures that effect really well, I think.

[@RCTNT]

The rear of the BC8 Mammoth also has walking beam suspension. No leaf springs. 50KG load capacity! Love this stuff :)

[@elduderinolebowski5411]

@@RCTNT I need to look closer at the BC8, then. that's really cool. 50kg is also quite a payload for a truck this "small". very impressive. I love this stuff, too. +)

[@gamerdominicano3949]

Best video on KZbin about this truck

[@RCTNT]

Thank you!

[@Pezzapoo]

She looks a beast. nice rig m8

[@michaeldec698]

I just got mine few days ago love it..gonna make an off road log truck out of it..its definitely bigger but its built for more off road uses..not for the stretch low rider type hobby..works great in rough areas and woods its an absolute beast

[@RCTNT]

Wonderful! Enjoy it! She's a great rig-just gotta watch those drive shaft pins! I did a follow up here, if you're interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKqvaISJh66goJI

[@michaeldec698]

@@RCTNT thanks man..no problem with clips yet but thx for warning..how would I go about buying a tipper?..hooking it in to truck electronics etc?

[@RCTNT]

That's a question I haven't fully answered yet. I've got a hydraulic tipper trailer here I've been building up. It's nearly done but I have yet to sus the electronic part. It needs 3 channels and I have 1 spare on my current setup. I was looking at the flysky noble as it allows multiple rx units to work concurrently. The trailer could get the secondary receiver and I could put the primary in my truck. Could do that in both my bigger rigs, indeed. Not cheap, but that'd do it. Still thinking about it, basically!

[@Chris18RC]

Nice video my friend 😍👍👍

[@hollander133]

I recently bought the same from Eagel Machinery And it's really heavy duty and nicely made. Tough we suspect it's more or less 1/13 insteat of 1/14. A friend of mine has a 1/14 Unimog where we need to compare it with. I actually bought the same trailer as well, and there I have the same scale problem, but I am already thinking of modifying one of them to make it fit better. Further I do agree, it'is a very nice machine and very very capable. It had so much more traction than the other truck in the sandpit in the early stages when the sand was still loose. In my opinion a very nice starter truck and a very good truck to take appart and rebuild en improve to ones liking!

[@RCTNT]

Ah nice, glad you're enjoying it. I have a follow up video for this rig on the channel you might be interested in seeing. I've made a few changes to it. (Also, lengthening a trailer can make it fit a truck better, aesthetically). Cheers

[@hollander133]

@@RCTNT I have seen the follow up as well it's a very nice vid and very explantory. I am planning to adapt the trailer, but that will come in time.

[@RCTNT]

Oh cool! Thanks, I'm really glad you found it helpful. Appreciate you watching 🙂

[@BlackSeaRC]

Did you consider using the HG P806 trailer with this truck? This Zetros looks great but I suppose it really needs some weight over the rear axles to perform at its best. I've been tempted to get a RC heavy truck for a while now but never quite found exactly what I wanted. There seems to be a number of options such as JD Model/RC4WD, HG, Tamiya, Hercules Hobby, Cross-RC, CAPO, King Kong, etc. But when you are investing so much money you want something that's better than just okay. The Tamiya and Hercules trucks are mainly for on-road use and the CAPO is too expensive. The HengGuan and King Kong trucks seem okay for the price but there is not much choice. That leaves JD Model/RC4WD and Cross-RC. Decisions, decisions...Any other options you can think of?

[@RCTNT]

Good trailer suggestion! My T247 finally arrived on the weekend so once it's painted and together I'll pop it on the back of this and we'll see how it looks. The Hg trailer is a good idea, and there's a range of lesu and similar cnc options on AliExpress too. Re trucks, you've covered the main stuff. When I look at trucks they need to be able to take off-road tires and I want all wheel drive, or the ability to mod it in. I live on a dirt road with gravel driveway. Nearest pavement to me is about a kilometre away, so it's all off-road stuff here! I have been looking at the 6x6 and 8x8 Herc options, and similar. The king Kong 6x6 represents excellent value and is the right scale for the many Tamiya and Herc trailers, too, so there's that. LESU isn't cheap but they make premium versions of what Tamiya and Hercules have, so I keep an eye on them too. The HG 8x8 models also represent excellent value. It'll be one of those or the King Kong 6x6 next, here (though I'm unsure about the KK diff strength currently. Working through setup on the CA10 to try to find a configuration where it doesn't blow with heavy weight. Shimming it just so is hopefully the way through, we'll see).

[@BlackSeaRC]

@@RCTNT Thanks for your reply. I'm sure it will be great fun building the T247 trailer and it looks like a very good quality and robust bit of kit. I'm the same here, located part way up a mountain and only rough tracks nearby. I'm waiting to see what the new Cross-RC DC8 and BC8 trucks look like. Whether I buy one will depend upon what cab/bodies they are going to fit and how scale realistic they are. By the way, I also bought my AT4V from Highway Toy Store on AliExpress and would definitely buy from them again.

[@RCTNT]

@@BlackSeaRC oh, very good! They're a good little outfit! The cross rc belt drive thing is super interesting. I'm watching closely!

[@Apasash]

Beautiful truck 😉👍🍿📺

[@hellorc7678]

Nice review. I love that new 6x6. We have the 4x4 and it has been great. Nice video!

[@RCTNT]

Ah, very good! I actually pre-ordered the 4x4 from RC4WD when they first announced it but then they emailed me later asking for more money for shipping than already paid and it was just too much, so I had to let it go at the time. It's a brilliant platform, 4x4 or 6x6, though, yeah!

[@jtmchannel7640]

😲👀 ooo do we get to see that? Or was it in a previous video? Looks very cool.

[@RCTNT]

@@jtmchannel7640 the 4x4? I haven't got that one, sorry. You can assume similar bits though, it isn't hugely different. Be aware I lost the other half of the rear drive shaft the very first time I took it out after the repair. Problem is debris from the ground picks up and punches the E clip off the shaft and it all falls out! I've driven this thing for about 15 minutes total so far. I'm going to get a different set of shafts without this silly design. The AliExpress seller said they'd give me a discount on whatever shafts I want, if they can get them. It isn't their fault, this is a design shortcoming.

[@jtmchannel7640]

@@RCTNT Ah sweet! I should have been more specific, I was wondering if my Hello RC friends were gonna get it.

[@jtmchannel7640]

@@RCTNT sucks to hear about the driveshaft, hope one works for you.

[@furball5553]

Wow just about blew by seen your truck stop became a sub and ordered this truck from strilng rc is the JDM157 maxed out on accessories or have you found any and what trailer are you going to use great channel glad I found you 👍✌

[@RCTNT]

Heh, awesome! And welcome :) I've since put a Fusion 1200kv into this and it's perfect. Trailer, well, check out my Instagram's latest post for one example (Cross RC T247). Dunno quite yet, but I really like this truck! (Drive shafts aside - I've got the pins captured currently in fabric tape and then heat shrink tube over the top. Not elegant but it'll help keep those E-clips from popping out!)

[@ShanCLee]

I have one coming in about a week, I can't wait, so looking forward to running it! Thanks for the tip to check the build for anything loose. Looking to find a decent light kit to add, any recommendations?

[@RCTNT]

Hope you enjoy it! It's such a great rig. Even better with the Fusion SE 1800 in it, I'm just loving this rig. No recommendation for the light kit, sorry. I guess just start assembling the pairs of LEDs you'll need and pair it with whatever light kit/base you want to use. It doesn't really matter, as long as you can get the LEDs to fit everywhere. My main concern is with the rear bar - the design doesn't look quite finished and ready for LEDs. Hopefully I'm wrong! In any case, enjoy your time with it. Brilliant model :)

[@Drivingdrew719]

I would love to have one its a expensive one for me right now though lol nice bro

[@276rclife6]

Oh man thats a nice truck. Rc Sparks has one on his new job site and it's a beast it will deff pull some weight and goes really well in the mud. Can't wait to see what you do with it. Thats a shame about the trailer. I'm sure with some time on the old interwebs you'll be able to come with something that looks close to the right scale..

[@RCTNT]

I'll keep fiddling with it, will work out a trailer soon enough :)

[@mikealexis]

Man that look so awesome

[@JK-RC-FOCUS]

nice video 😎😎👍

[@saikumarsaikumar7347]

very excellent job 👏👏👏👏

[@RCTNT]

Thank you! Don't miss the follow up where we actually get to test it a bit! kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKqvaISJh66goJI Cheers :)

[@thatsmyrc]

great review bud I have both models of this offered. The other offered model with bed I had made a hydraulic dump out of it also. I was going to put a different bed on in but for know its nice to have the lay down side panels for skid steer or forks to load and unload material. new sub 8-)

[@RCTNT]

Thanks and welcome :) I had the 4x4 on order with RC4WD when they first announced it and I like the bed tray. But shipping cost was prohibitive so I ended up cancelling after they requested more money before shipping, so that was that. Until recently when I found it could be had cheaper elsewhere! It's a pretty solid platform. Minor build issues can be dealt with and then you have one solid platform for all sorts of trucking things! I'll have to check out some of your videos to see what you've been up to with them, I really like this truck! Cheers.

[@thatsmyrc]

@@RCTNT just put a new bed on my 6x6 hydraulic dump. It looks so darn good. I haven't aired a video yet

[@RCTNT]

@@thatsmyrc I look forward to checking it out! Pretty trucks aren't they

[@skidog7440]

Looks like an awesome rig! Not my kind of thing but your enthusiasm can be contagious.😜 Love the trailer, hopefully you find a match for it.

[@RCTNT]

Thanks, I'll work something out :)

[@phoenixsui]

Hey in your opinion, what is the highest quality RC Truck manufacturers? And do you know one that sells high Quality American or Australian models too? I like the look of this one too. So far i found RC4WD and Scaleart. Even tho i heard RC4WD is not the manufacturer? But who is it then? Thanks ;) Edit: Not only Trucks but all kind of heavy duty machines plz :).

[@RCTNT]

Cross RC for all round tough engineering and design. LESU for the premium stuff. But the best engineered model I've yet to come across is the BC8, this thing is just incredible. Search my channel for the wheel loader video, that machine rides on a cross rc trailer which itself is an art work, and the BC8 towing it is just epic.

[@phoenixsui]

@@RCTNT Already watched it :) Thanks for your answer.

[@Rockatha]

So I'm thinking of getting my first scale truck. I'm stuck between a Tamiya King Hauler and one of these. Which one would you suggest i get?

[@RCTNT]

Hey Chris, that's actually not such a difficult question: for scale on-road driving, it's Tamiya all the way. For tougher drive-train and off-road capability (and look for my playlist for this thing, I'm running brushless power through it now without any issue), you can't really go past this thing. Off-road hauling with serious load capacity isn't catered to by many models. There's this, the HG 8x8s, the Cross RC BC8, a few of the Lesu 6x6 and 8x8 models... maybe one or two others that I can't think of right now, but that's it for off-road. For on-road only though, Tamiya and Hercules Hobby do it really well and for a great price (plus you get to build a kit, which this model here doesn't offer you). Hopefully that helps! You'll love them either way!

[@Rockatha]

@@RCTNT thanks for your reply. I really like the idea of building a truck but I also like the idea of hauling off road. Are you able to make the tamiya King Hauler off road capable.

[@RCTNT]

@@Rockatha haven't had one before, but the biggest issue is its a 6x4. With un-driven front wheels, you're always going to struggle on anything even pebble sized. I've got the King Kong CA-10 2x4, for example. It was useless even on grass. I put the chunkier tires on it from the CA-30 and that helped. Then I converted it to 4x4 and it went better again, of course. But I didn't like the axles I'd used, so I went back to the original 2x4 configuration and instead tried half a brick over the hitch plate in the front of a box trailer. That helped a fair bit. It is challenging just on mild off road trails, but it can now do that. The other thing than traction to be aware of is diff and transmission gear strength. I daresay the Tamiya simply won't take the extra forces that off road driving typically exerts on the drive train. You do need to make a choice here. On road only, Tamiya will be fine. If you want the Tamiya offroad, you'd want to start looking online to see what others have done. That's what I'd be doing anyway. My intuition is that it'll be an uphill battle, but I'd love to be wrong!

[@Rockatha]

@@RCTNT I really appreciate your help. Thank you

[@RCTNT]

Did you end up making a decision?

[@mfel6126]

can you pull the HG P806 trailer with this rig? Will the king pin of the trailer fit into the (hitch plate) fifth wheel? Thank you for your time.

[@RCTNT]

I expect so, but if not, you can buy smaller king pins or wider hitch plates, or even simply file this one a bit wider. You also may need to raise the hitch plate a bit higher using brass stand offs - experiment to see. I don't have that trailer so I don't know, sorry!

[@mfel6126]

@@RCTNT sounds good, thanks!

[@leewilliams9904]

I'm looking to buy this but I'm worried about my tamiya trailers fitting especially my low loader hydraulic trailer which is why I was going to get it. What is your opinion

[@RCTNT]

The tamiya trailers can look a little small on this but the longer ones look good. The height in the default position is close, only like 10 or 15% higher than you'd ideally want the hitch to be. Certainly, it's easy enough to make it higher - I have a recent video on that. It's a shade too big, in short. But still ok, just not perfect. It sure hauls, though!

[@gamerdominicano3949]

Can you do a review like this on the excavator behind u ? The liebherr 954

[@RCTNT]

It's on the list! And the wheel loader. Both are coming. Many reviews to do, but I've got to pace myself because each video takes many hours to assemble! I'm definitely going to do that though! Cheers

[@gamerdominicano3949]

What battery you have for it I just bought the same truck

[@RCTNT]

Just using 2200mah 3S packs. Turnigy, Rhino & Zippy are all ones I use. They're all fine. Any 3s pack of 1200mah to maybe 4000mah should fit ok, but check before you buy.

[@363361329]

is it smaller than the cross rc 1/12 trucks?

[@RCTNT]

Similar size, I'd say.

[@363361329]

@@RCTNT can 15 cm action figures fit in the truck without cutting legs

[@RCTNT]

Don't be mad if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that's right, and even slightly bigger ones will fit. I'm pretty sure! I do have a 15cm dude in mine and he looks a bit small, you can see it on other videos featuring this rig on my channel here.

[@inagerli]

Hi, what you think should be the Balllink on the Front axis ? stabi ?

[@RCTNT]

Das Fahrzeug ist schwer und die Federung ist steif. Stabi ist nicht erforderlich. The stock configuration is fine - there is nearly zero body roll!

[@inagerli]

@@RCTNT Looks like because of the balllink the steering angle is smaller. If i buy this modell too, then i try to deinstll it.

[@inagerli]

@@RCTNT Think because of the balling there is no body roll.

[@RCTNT]

@@inagerli I understand now. Honestly, the rear suspension is very stiff, so it can handle 30kg. It's intentionally stiff. Nothing up front will induce or prevent roll with the rear as stiff as it is! This truck is designed for towing, I think!

[@inagerli]

@@RCTNT Maybe you can try to remove that link and see if you can get more steering angle ?

[@r.ccustomtruckingsydneyaus4632]

lenghen the trailer you have mate. i build custom tipper trailers. to scale.

[@RCTNT]

Thanks, length would help. I'll match it to another rig. T247 is here now so that'll go well behind this thing!

[@phoenixsui]

Kind of unacceptable for a Product this price range, having to check every screw, even the once not on moving components. If they already know the trouble why dont they lock the screws?

[@RCTNT]

Everything's built to a price. I've used it a bunch and it's been fine since sorting the drive shafts, for whatever that's worth!

[@emersonpedro3944]

Lindo

[@RCTNT]

Isto é! Obrigada.

[@r.ccustomtruckingsydneyaus4632]

$5000 grand thats what you get

[@YoShImUrA53]

Probably the most inconsistent rig on your channel so far. Such a pity it's so over the place. Some details are amazing, such as the scale chassis details, like the front sway/anti-roll bar, the nice axle articulation and locking differentials... but then, the poor build quality, the solid tires, amber headlights (huh?) but foglight yellow rear turn signals lens (huh, huh??), and the cheap phillips head screws... Either they really want you to "finish" the details, or they ran out of budget halfway through the production phase, with most of the molds finished, or else, it was simply a rushed deadline, which left the development unfinished. Probably all of the above? Maybe if it'd ever get a V2 with the issues corrected and, as you said, a kit version, it could even sway me into trailers for the very first time. You heard it here first. That's how much I liked the good parts of it! But please, do fix the bad ones first!

[@RCTNT]

You make a good point about quality, tying a lot of my video together in that summary. I actually feel a bit differently, though. It is quite a solid truck, despite the minor flaws. It really is just heavy axles, solid wheels and a bit of truck sprinkled on - a beaut towing rig and whaaaat? You're taking a peek at the dark side? Lol that's awesome, hehe! So I play a part in your conversion, eh? Mwahaha!

[@YoShImUrA53]

@@RCTNT more than a conversion... I see it like a premeditated perversion... LOL!

[@offroadrcsemiguy]

As a side note the lighting is the way it is because its patterned off the actual one. Because it sits so high the headlights being mounted in the actual "headlight spot" would be right in the eyes of oncoming drivers, hence they're mounted in the bumper and the flashers are in the headlight wells. But I will second most of what is said. I bought the truck and it is a consistent adjustment kind of truck but it will PULL like a BEAST!

[@RCTNT]

Ah nice to know! Thanks for that detail! Also, there's a towing video starring this truck coming the next video after tomorrow's one, on December 4th. Great rig isn't it :)

[@garethprice2245]

All jdm shit is the same I've got the jdm 4200xl excavator and the valve block is junk had to change it and had to rebuild the pump in no time after that it's been fine as for the other jdm things I bought I've sold them never to buy anything off them again

[@RCTNT]

Sorry to hear your valve block and pump was bad, but I'm glad it's been fine after that. I have a generic hydraulic excavator with a bad outrunner too, it's really noisy but I just haven't changed it yet. I should! I've really been enjoying this truck and it's been running on brushless power for a year now. Goes great!

[@artagain8977]

Not a fan of JDM stuff. Not worth the money frankly

[@RCTNT]

I'm glad to have the choice. Lesu has some interesting stuff too but it is all pretty pricey!

[@artagain8977]

@@RCTNT yes but not too far off from what you probably paid for that. They have 8x8’s that are around $1800.

[@RCTNT]

That's about double what I paid, if we're talking USD. But that kind of money gets you the truck but no cab body or electrics. You still have to spend $2.5k minimum for that sort of thing. However, cross rc nicely comes in with truly epic models for less. I've had an RC4WD Beast II that's similar to cross's MC6, and the MC8 isn't a lot more. But the BC8 Mammoth is incredible. One of my two all time favourite models (the other is the BRX01). Anyway, I do find the JDM stuff a bit on the plastic side of things, a bit rough, though very pretty. The cross rc stuff is solid.

[@artagain8977]

@@RCTNT Tucan Hobby currently has full RTR Kabolite dumps for $1200 usd.

[@RCTNT]

Oh nice. Ah I remember those now! They come in heaps of colours yeah? Certainly attractive trucks.

[@damianholt111]

5g wow

[@RCTNT]

5g? ...5kg?

[@damianholt111]

@@RCTNT $1000 a kilo?

[@RCTNT]

Oh I see. No, maybe there was some confusion about 5-pole and 3-pole or slot motor? It's a 45-turn 3-slot. Cost isn't bad, it's AUD$1300 or so, which is what, $870 or so, plus shipping. It's quite a good deal.

[@damianholt111]

@@RCTNT what shop was this from?

[@RCTNT]

In the description are a few options

[@purplelegorc2170]

Nice look at the rig. Thanks for sharing. This thing is over $2k im crying if anything falls off of it on the first run especially. Chekc out my 6x6 defender kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6mrpqh_iKx3nJo