This kit is wild! Whats the first song you would play on it? 🤔
@paxton69 Жыл бұрын
Blast beats
@elovesenchiladas7258 Жыл бұрын
@paxton same tbh
@praisewizor Жыл бұрын
The first song I would play is definitely Call me maybe,😅😅😅
@lukewheeler162 Жыл бұрын
A whole red hot chili peppers gig
@RedDogMamaHD Жыл бұрын
Ravioli! (I thought of this because I am hungry!)
@djsusan00 Жыл бұрын
Finally, you drummers can tune your instruments like us guitarists.
@chriskiefer7493 Жыл бұрын
That is correct. No drum has ever been tuned before this. -The More You Know
@djsusan00 Жыл бұрын
@@chriskiefer7493 😅🤣🤣🤣
@orionh.5334 Жыл бұрын
what about the bass drums with built in tuning keys? (Tama)
@greedfox7842 Жыл бұрын
I tune my heads one a month at most and they are only ever a few inch-pounds off of being in tune. (drumdial)
@cablevamp3163 Жыл бұрын
No
@milescorporosus4058 Жыл бұрын
"Did you hear those sick bends the _drummer_ was doing?"
@davidcenteau-depina6192 Жыл бұрын
In a studio situation this would be very useful but live, especially if you have gigs with different types of musical styles. The sound can go from jazz to rock and everything in-between in a few turns. This is genius.
@Nathan-hb2xg Жыл бұрын
Most gigs of the same band won't play many different music styles in one set. I've never seen anyways...
@greedfox7842 Жыл бұрын
except, both batter and resonant head have the same tension... which for rock and jazz are really bad.
@rediflow Жыл бұрын
and a HIRED !!! (otherwise he usually wont give that much of a shit and afford) FOH Sound Engineer will hate you for it. He has to take care of your constantly retuned drums, to adapt EQs, Compressors, Gates, Volume and everything else he put on all the individual mic's of the drum-set with individual settings to make the set fit the room and the rest of band...
@manracmolactrac Жыл бұрын
A situation where this could be super helpful is in musical theatre - very often will different characters and moments be in completely different styles, with many of the other instrumentalists having to switch instruments song to song. This gets you a ton of mileage without needing lots of extra gear.
@nickpisarczyk Жыл бұрын
@@greedfox7842 …what? Tuning reso and batter to the same pitch gets you the most resonance you can. How is that a bad thing for jazz?
@akareject Жыл бұрын
The low tuning may be the best sound I have ever heard from a kit! Love it!
@krusher74 Жыл бұрын
if you like it tune you top and bottoms head to the same pitch.
@jensharald9091 Жыл бұрын
@@krusher74 Not pitch, tension. Also, I want to let you know from experience there's not quite a normal kit that sounds as good in low, low, low tuning as a kit with this kind of tuning system. If you like Duplantier-low toms and are tired of rattling rods this might be for you.
@Jay-pe7lh5 ай бұрын
Thanks
@mal2ksc18 күн бұрын
I think this would be perfect for a "house kit" at a venue. Add a second rack tom and a second floor tom and you should be able to accommodate almost everyone's preferences. I probably wouldn't have this on the snare though since drummers tend to bring their own snare and cymbals. If the drummer wants to tune on the fly, they'll have to live with one rack tom otherwise they can't reach the tuning peg for the kick. But if they're content to tune at the beginning of the set and just leave it there, that doesn't really matter. Move the second tom aside until the kick is tuned, then move it back.
@DanEdelen Жыл бұрын
Other than a little metal shell ringing on the snare-easily compensated for-that’s the best-sounding out-of-the-box kit I have heard. And I’ve been playing 50 years. Kudos to WTS. Here’s a unique kit that isn’t a novelty but a truly different system that makes drums better. Everything old is new again.
@WelchTuningSystemsInc Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@honuman39 Жыл бұрын
Page Drums and Hudson Custom Drums were making cable tension hardware kits since the late 90's
@brianwills5707 Жыл бұрын
I'm fascinated by these drums. Critics frequently point out inability to use different tuning between top/bottom. Would love to see a part 2 exploring how they sound with top and bottom heads of mixed thicknesses. Also curious how even the head tension is.
@scenoptica Жыл бұрын
Those are actually some great questions! I'm curious too, now.
@Gruuvin1 Жыл бұрын
Equal tension is not the same as equal pitch, and most drummers don't want equal tension on both top and bottom. Most drummers do want different types of heads on top vs bottom, which means the bottom will be pitched higher than the top, with this system, and there will be no control of that.
@ogKalmari Жыл бұрын
@@Gruuvin1 If you want that pop "boom" sound to your toms you would want to tune the bottom head lower than the batter head
@Gruuvin1 Жыл бұрын
@@ogKalmari cannot work that kind of tuning with this system
@anteshell Жыл бұрын
When new, the tension should be exactly even, but as they age it is possible some imperfections starts to appear when you change the tuning, due to the metal cable settling in on those bends due to fatigue. I doubt the effect ever becomes significant, but also think it can be heard if directly compared to drum with new and un-fatigued cable. And as other said, the problem is that you cannot control it.
@reverendray3036 Жыл бұрын
The arrow on the drumstick blew my mind more than the tuning system. Genius.
@alart75 Жыл бұрын
I bought this kit. No regrets. In a studio setting, you will save hours of tuning / tweaking time. Not only that but the drums sound amazing once Recorded.
@WelchTuningSystemsInc Жыл бұрын
We're so glad to hear that you're enjoying your drums, Alan!
@JohnMGiambalvo Жыл бұрын
I've been trying to explain just how amazing my kit is. I think you kind of have to own them to truly know just how cool this system is. The convenience and the improved tone is off the hook!
@Andreas-yt9wv6 күн бұрын
I got a question regarding the snare drum. Since you cant tune the batter and reso independently, isn't that a bit worse for a snare drum? Like... A too loose reso at low snare tuning?
@sambeazley39006 күн бұрын
@@Andreas-yt9wvI can only imagine that issue would be made worse the heavier your batter head is in comparison to the reso
@eternalcustomchannel Жыл бұрын
That rack tom has convinced me I need to tune my toms with even tension. It sounds soooooo sweet in that low tuning…it’s exactly what I want from my rack tom 😅
@scottwcrews Жыл бұрын
Drums originally started out with batter & reso heads being tied to each other so it's interesting to see the support now for equal-pitch heads after 100 years of independence between heads. Also, curious if the side of the hoop closest to the tuning crank receives higher tension than the side opposite of the tuning crank
@honuman39 Жыл бұрын
Interesting question. I could see maybe a slightly higher tension at the hoop closer to the tuner hardware because it's anchored there but I'm not sure it would effect the sound.
@JohnMGiambalvo Жыл бұрын
The tension is perfectly even all the way around. This system is basically idiot proof. I freaking love my kit! I should be their sales rep.
@Rotwold3 ай бұрын
i wish he'd actually confirm tension balance with a tuning pressure gauge.
@AngelofDeath1431 Жыл бұрын
Don't know if anyone else noticed, but when he was talking about the matte black wrap, the inset picture showed someone turning the tuning wing nut, and the color of the shell finish/wrap changing. I think that was a perfect illustration of choice. VERY COOL!!!
@WelchTuningSystemsInc Жыл бұрын
Glad you noticed and liked that!
@AngelofDeath1431 Жыл бұрын
My occupation requires observational skill, plus I'm a drummer, as well. Too bad my "job" doesn't pay enough for me to afford a kit like this (or larger). Also, my wife would kill me if I bought home another set (but, I could die happy with a five piece kit). Anyway, impressive system you have devised!
@dixonqwerty Жыл бұрын
Best invention for drums I have ever seen.
@jeffjefferson8137 Жыл бұрын
how do you only have 318k subscribers? i’ve been watching for like four years maybe imo one of the best drumming youtubers. content wise chops and creativity. keep doin what ur doing i get so excited every time i get a notification that u uploaded
@xdoctorblindx Жыл бұрын
These sound legitimately incredible. It's like having your drums studio processed!
@porchestra Жыл бұрын
Infinite versatility for such a small kit. I'm a sound tech and this would be a joy to mic up. Those low tones are super wet and useful in heavier music, while the clean high and dry tuning could elevate any jazz gig. 5-Star Drums
@WelchTuningSystemsInc Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed them!
@porchestra Жыл бұрын
Yes, quite innovative as they look and sound fantastic. Our Ears Never Lie!
@LilLWH Жыл бұрын
The best use case I can think for this kit is as a house kit for a venue. Would be such a nice fit for switching in between sets for different bands and them being able set the tuning to their desired sound.
@WelchTuningSystemsInc Жыл бұрын
The 5 Spot in Nashville and the Relix studio both have our drums as house kits specifically for that purpose!
@GivenKDW Жыл бұрын
Tbh the high tuning sounds so good !
@cicada9393 Жыл бұрын
i had my first drum lesson today and have never touched a drum kit before today, or tried to play a beat in front of anyone really, and i just found your channel and wanna give ya a huge thanks i love your content man!
@marcelinebrady5332 Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah!! Hope you’re still playing
@okaight7248 Жыл бұрын
Every single tuning, including the SUPER HIGH all sounded so good!
@ryancrisp1842 Жыл бұрын
I can tell I have definitely grown as a drummer because I have come to enjoy and appreciate the high tunings. It used to always be about how low you could tune. I just dig resonance now.
@DrRockso. Жыл бұрын
The brass drum in the works looks like a Tama Bell Brass. Awesome.
@mentalitydesignvideo Жыл бұрын
These are the most evenly, precisely tuned drums I've heard in a while. If not ever.
@valkojam Жыл бұрын
Dude, I've been stalking this company for the past few months. Their hardware kits have been out of stock. I have an old 12" raw snare shell I am pondering using this on. Thanks as always for a great review.
@johnnysweetly3757 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I've seen this advertised a lot and I'm so excited that YOU'RE the guy who got his hands on them! I love watching drummers geek out about cool drum stuff, so I loved when you got into the snare.
@stevepruittmusic Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for featuring my snare drum too!
@rebelcat420 Жыл бұрын
Honestly was expecting this to be a gimmick, but was pleasantly surprised to hear how good they sounded! Especially of note was that snare! On,y thing I would have liked to see was a side by side time lapse of a head change on a traditional drum. My bets are that the times are very close (with this system being slightly faster- especially after doing it a few times to learn the system better).
@mattyoung1863 Жыл бұрын
I bought a WTS Epiphany snare in August and love it! So many different sounds with just the turn of a peg!
@mattbridges8908 Жыл бұрын
Those actually sound very good at all of the tuning ranges. I'm impressed. I thought these would be a gimmick, but I can see myself using these. I rock these sizes for this reason. 20, 12, 14. Low for bonaham, high for bebop or hip hop. Does it all.
@mikosoft Жыл бұрын
Bonham actually tuned his drums fairly high but used large shells.
@mattbridges8908 Жыл бұрын
@@mikosoft Yes, but with these sizes you'll get closer to Bonham with medium low tuning. Not low to the point of dead, just lower than bebop tuning.
@jackalford7318 Жыл бұрын
those are honestly the best sounding toms I've heard in a long time at any of the tunings.
@bacicinvatteneaca Жыл бұрын
Imagine playing the In the Air Tonight fill on just one of these drums, tuning it down as you go
@the1khronohs40 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: I was thinking about the drill bit about 30 sec. before you mentioned it. I’m a guitar player/tech. 😂 You will probably shave off 2min. on the change time with a drill. This is my new dream kit as of right now! I really don’t mind the flat black either. ❤
@blujay9191 Жыл бұрын
Very cool. I've had a Dialtune snare drum for a couple of years which I love. It has a similar tuning system except it has the ability to tune each head independently and you can change and tune the batter head in under a minute.
@unclerhombus Жыл бұрын
Those snares look awesome, but the price is highly intimidating.
@blujay9191 Жыл бұрын
@@unclerhombus .. True that. I financed mine. The first time I've ever done that. In my defense, the only other quality snare drum I ever bought was a used Supraphonic in 1973 (still in service btw). I figured I deserve a new snare drum every 50 years or so.
@sammcdouall4849 Жыл бұрын
Love to see this kit with a Dialtune snare drum.
@jeffholmes2459 Жыл бұрын
Does Dialtune make complete kits ???
@boricua9071 Жыл бұрын
I for sure would want a kit like this. This such a beautiful idea and I’m hoping there is a more affordable option in the future.
@greedfox7842 Жыл бұрын
drummers never need to tune... like once when a head is new and once a week later for the head breaking in. and, you can't set different tensions for the resonant and batter heads. >:/ you must not be a avid drummer.
@LimabeanStudios Жыл бұрын
@@greedfox7842 drummers don't retune all the time because it's a hassle. If it was as easy as tuning a guitar you bet your ass I'd retune my set all the time. I also think the issue with not being able to have different tensions can be solved fairly easily with a bit more mechanics involved.
@BrunodeSouzaLino Жыл бұрын
@@greedfox7842 The same principle used for strings applies to drum heads. As you play the drum, you're actually deforming the head and it starts going out of tune. In order to restore it, you have to stretch the head again and again but eventually you reach a point where the material is fatigued and no longer stretches. If you keep pushing it, the head will either deform in a way it can no longer be stretched or split, just like how a guitar string eventually reaches a point where it can no longer hold the tuning.
@dimitriid Жыл бұрын
6:40 Biohazard - Urban Discipline. Glad to see some Danny Schuler he doesn't gets talked about nearly enough but those Biohazard records had some incredibly creative drumming on em.
@rdavidr Жыл бұрын
technically I played it wrong... lol either way, the drum parts on that album are clutch, also love the way theyre mixed 👌
@hakrbeans3850 Жыл бұрын
Kinda sounds like California Uber Alles by Dead Kennedys
@dimitriid Жыл бұрын
@@hakrbeans3850 Well Biohazard started and was arguably always a hardcore band so I'm almost sure they listened to Dead Kennedys
@Southbound_Buff Жыл бұрын
@@rdavidr minor flex but Danny’s my uncle. Definitely would say he’s a massive inspiration to me
@hakrbeans3850 Жыл бұрын
@@dimitriid true. Inspiration is apparent and done well. Thank you for introducing me to a new band
@edukacja2485 Жыл бұрын
This kit looks like a blessing in studio situation and foh engineer's worst nightmare on live gigs. That low tuning though sounds absolutely amazing
@JohnMGiambalvo Жыл бұрын
Just played my first gig with my WTS kit. They went over really well. Sound guy said my little 18x16 kick sounded better than any other he's ever mixed. Nothing inside her either. Just regular Powerstroke heads. Ported reso. Freaking huge thump with a very controlled tone. The toms sang to the back of the room quite nicely. The other drummer who played them was enthralled. He hates tuning and just marveled at how well the WTS works.
@janemba42 Жыл бұрын
It would be cool to have some kind of dial on each drum so you can tell visually what each drum is at, for quick and consistent tuning on the fly.
@cletusbeauregard1972 Жыл бұрын
There used to be a tuning key that had a built-in torque meter in its top; you could see exactly how much tension each lug had and get them all the same. Don't know if anyone still sells it, though.
@DadBodDrumming Жыл бұрын
I bet you could achieve this by putting colored tape on the rope. Different colors for different tuning. All you do is tighten the rope until the desired color reaches a certain mark and viola! instant jazz or rock sound.
@np_sub Жыл бұрын
Yep, most timpanis have linear gauges on them so you can mark each note to quickly tune to. Timpani solos are incredible to watch just because of this. I'm surprised that they didn't do a similar idea here but then again, this is also pretty new.
@andrewwray8778 Жыл бұрын
Just use your ears 👍
@mack56 Жыл бұрын
Use a Tunebot
@11000038 Жыл бұрын
I can see a few potential problems but this seems to be a genuine alternative. Things that come to mind are, as already mentioned elsewhere in the comments, the lack of ability to have different tensions between the batter and reso heads. Potential damage to the cable on the tuner. Cable life and available replacements. Wear and tear on the worm gears. Unwanted resonances from the cables. It will be interesting to see if other manufacturers adopt something similar unless protected by patents. I think the extra deep snare is adopted because the cable angle through the pulleys would not be enough otherwise. Failure of one component may be a problem more than a traditional arrangement? Good entertaining video as always, and nice drumming too!😊
@PanchromaticNoise Жыл бұрын
I've never had drum envy in the 20 years I've been playing. I'm now committed to selling my 7-piece Tama kit for these.
@JohnMGiambalvo Жыл бұрын
Do it! Best purchase of my drumming career.
@PanchromaticNoise Жыл бұрын
@@JohnMGiambalvo I got yesterday! The silver sparkle with the brass snare. They sound amazing and I can't believe how low the tiny 14" sounds. Not having to worry or fuss over tuning ever again was well worth the price.
@JohnMGiambalvo Жыл бұрын
@@PanchromaticNoise That's so cool. Last gig I played, the sound guy fully freely admitted it was the best sounding drum set he has ever heard.
@OrganicGreens Жыл бұрын
I feel like I've seen something like this on really old drums. I always thought it was decorative but I bet this is inspired by tuning systems on historical marching drums and traditional drums.
@rdavidr Жыл бұрын
True, I guess this is the modern equivalent of an old rope tension drum!
@WelchTuningSystemsInc Жыл бұрын
Exactly! The rope tension concept has existed for quite some time now and certainly inspired our approach. We took the basic concept and modernized it for practical functionality that today's drummers can make use of.
@victoramicci840 Жыл бұрын
@@WelchTuningSystemsInc Through the video, I ended up thinking that maybe it would be a good idea to have a sealed system of tuners, as in electric basses. The rope systems does remind a bass guitar tuner afterall
@jamesjoseph1449_ Жыл бұрын
low tuning those toms sound like heaven
@stedankel Жыл бұрын
This actually makes a lot of sense! Consistent, equally balanced and incredibly quick whole kit tuning! Are we finally seeing the next evolution of the drum set??
@JohnMGiambalvo Жыл бұрын
I can't say enough about how much I love my kit. The tuning range is fabulous. I've never gotten my 16 inch floor as low as this one goes. Down into places a 22" kick usually goes. Not kidding. And in seconds no less.
@charlesbronson7590 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I ordered these a week ago. This video is relieving my buyers remorse!
@Rustyjamesman Жыл бұрын
Those toms sound great! Snare sounds best tuned high to me
@jonwoods4784 Жыл бұрын
YES I’m so stoked you’re making a video on these. I love these drums.
@daltonidaho Жыл бұрын
I've been seeing this tuning system for a while and always assumed it was another gimmick, but they actually sound great!
@alsdrumhang Жыл бұрын
I saw these on a Facebook ad a couple months back, then a drummer I know got a set and played them in a video - I've been so curious about them! Great review!
@brent3760 Жыл бұрын
The high tuning is where it's at! Sounds great! Go even higher to Bop tuning!!
@rogerwelsh2335 Жыл бұрын
Along with the best tuning method ever invented, This is a great sounding kit too
@zerronyx1362 Жыл бұрын
perfect for bass players converting to drummers
@nickwallette6201 Жыл бұрын
Checking in!
@kgamaseg Жыл бұрын
Loved that third song high tuning!!! Jazzy sounds!
@MrVenat0r Жыл бұрын
That's some super simple but really clever engineering.
@charlzthedrummer Жыл бұрын
Usually when you review a kit, I’d praise you for your tuning skills
@rdavidr Жыл бұрын
it was easy on this one haha
@NealMiskinMusic Жыл бұрын
Cool! I would love to see a couple of added features: 1. A separate tuning system for top and bottom heads, as having them at the same tension isn't always what you want. 2. A quick release to disconnect the pulleys from the rim to make head changes even faster. Otherwise what a really neat idea!
@Merlincat007 Жыл бұрын
I love the quick release idea! They do have videos of changing the heads in a couple minutes but why not go even faster!
@JohnMGiambalvo Жыл бұрын
The whole point of the system is to achieve even tension top and bottom and cleanly across the heads perfectly every time. The laws of physics demand that these drums tune perfectly. Every pulley is under the same tension. Until you've heard a drum tuned this perfectly, you can't know how superior the tone is. I have experimented with tom tunings for over 40 years and now this system makes it impossible to not get great sounding drums. Trust me when I say that perfectly even tensioned tom heads top and bottom IS EXACTLY what you want. It's just almost impossible to achieve, and harder to maintain, on a traditional kit. The lug closest to you always goes out of tune first and then the whole drum sounds wonky, right? Some times that happens after just one song if you're really going for it. That can't happen with the WTS drums. The cable can't move so the pulleys don't lose tension. It's not like having tension rods that back out of the lug over time. Also, after changing a few heads, I've gotten pretty quick at it. Helps to trim the end of the cable before you try to reinsert it. That's where the guy in this video went wrong. I nip off just 1/4 inch and it's much easier. Plus, once the new head is on, you just tighten up the cable until you get where you want to be, and you're done. None of the horrible tedium of going from lug to lug trying to get it even. And you never have to take a tom off it's mount or lift a floor tom and flip it to tune the bottom head.
@iamcrypto589 Жыл бұрын
really nice..I’ll be getting a kit for sure
@JerridFoiles Жыл бұрын
I dig the idea of this kit. Imagine a song where there's a break and then a key change, and during that break you've tuned your kit to match the key. Game changer.
@mirkosmi1800 Жыл бұрын
Steven is looking forward to the new set like a little child...and I'm glad too...congratulations!
@caspermaster-com Жыл бұрын
If I started a recording studio, this is the only drum kit I would buy for it. Wow. Now we only need cymbals that you can turn a knob to get them to be more quiet hehe.
@synchroPhaze Жыл бұрын
I remember watching your vids years ago and I must say, well done, you've gotten so much better! Not to say you weren't before but I just see that you've been practicing ;)
@kylewagoner Жыл бұрын
I really, really want one. I am blown away.
@WelchTuningSystemsInc Жыл бұрын
Ready when you are!
@patrickderp1044 Жыл бұрын
i dont know how many different snares at different tunings i have heard at this point but the one at 6:01 is way up in the hall of fame
@benjamin.kelley Жыл бұрын
Every drum set needs to be like this. Obviously the cable loses tension over time, but with a replacement cable, it would make tuning so much better! The only issue I can see is if you want a nice pitch bend by tuning the heads differently.
@sirdrum-a-lot Жыл бұрын
You can tune the bottom higher or lower if you want.
@nilsjunior7851 Жыл бұрын
@@sirdrum-a-lot how would you do this on this type of drum?
@jeus_saaa Жыл бұрын
@@nilsjunior7851 same question. that was the first question i had in mind the moment i saw how the cable connects the batter and the reso head.
@WelchTuningSystemsInc Жыл бұрын
We'd love to see more companies making our system available on their drums! The cable really doesn't stretch out to the point where it loses tension- that's more likely to happen with your heads as they stretch out but you can easily give a small turn to the single key and you're back in action. As for different pitches between batter and reso head, simply use drumheads of different thicknesses. A thinner drumhead will resonate at a higher pitch given the same tension.
@sirdrum-a-lot Жыл бұрын
@@WelchTuningSystemsInc This is my answer to the people asking "how"
@calebforman4516 Жыл бұрын
Rdavidr is a drum content MACHINE! Change my mind.
@LeftyPem Жыл бұрын
Great sounding kit! Love the tuning at the 6:15 mark❤
@autonation_photography153 Жыл бұрын
I somehow never get bored of rewatching rdavidr videos
@sammcdouall4849 Жыл бұрын
Great idea with a amazing tunning range. I wish they could used the same quick removable rims as Dialtune drums. Then changing heads would only take about 30 sec. It would be great to see you play a Dialtune snare drum with this WTS kit.
@NigiriCat Жыл бұрын
I love the look of this tuning system.
@stevenwolfie Жыл бұрын
i would have loved to see you put a drum dial on the heads to see how even the tension was. really sweet kit!
@JohnMGiambalvo Жыл бұрын
It is basically perfect. I might make a video showing just that. I can't say enough about how much I love my kit.
@PNW_Sportbike_Life Жыл бұрын
those drums sound AMAZING...
@CyberneticHusky Жыл бұрын
I kinda like the look of these drums they have that classic rope style of tuning but modernized it
@lastwymsi Жыл бұрын
I am loving how this kit sounds and looks. If I ever have spare money, this us what my personal studio will have. On the fly tuning is amazing.
@liamfitzdrums Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of Jaki Leibzeit's drum kit that he used near the end of his life. He had this thing that he would do where he would drill holes in the rims of the heads and insert some rope into them. He'd have them tied off in such a way that he could tighten the heads with the pull of the rope. This was done so that he wouldn't have any lugs on his drums and thus the sheels would resonate fully.
@Carlito_Sway Жыл бұрын
Jaki is maybe the pound for pound most underrated drummer of all time. It's hard for me to think of another drummer who was SO good and yet who flew SO under the radar in drumming circles. What a cool tidbit about his drums- was this after his time in CAN?
@liamfitzdrums Жыл бұрын
@@Carlito_Sway Yes. It was well after his time in CAN. And yes he is one of the most underrated drummers.
@KarlKarsnark Жыл бұрын
Neato. As a guitar-bro, I love how these "tuners" look like ours, as well. \m/
@evangarciamusic Жыл бұрын
Wow, drums made with guitar tuning mechanisms, pretty sick!
@BleeemoMusic18 күн бұрын
I had a custom kit built by Red Rock drums with the WTS system, best kit I've ever played. 18x14 kick, 14x14 floor, and 14x14 snare. all stave drums.
@Merlincat007 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a set with separate tuning of the batter and reso heads! And while we're making wishlist, I love the look and feel of wood hoops with the claws if they'd offer a set with those!
@greedfox7842 Жыл бұрын
finally someone else to have noticed that. both heads on the same tension is almost useless.
@Merlincat007 Жыл бұрын
@@greedfox7842 I wouldn't say that! They mention experimenting with different thicknesses of heads, like thinner heads will be higher at the same tension
@greedfox7842 Жыл бұрын
@@Merlincat007 but then the head would have to be changed to tune them, or change the sound. :/ and yes a thinner head would sound higher, but tension is more than just sound,; like a snare side snare head needs to be physically tight to react with the snares properly, so if you want a fat rock sound the snare wire isn't going to work right.
@honuman39 Жыл бұрын
@@greedfox7842 I own a Hudson Custom Drum set which has cable tension hardware similar to these. For what it's worth I don't have any issues with sound/tone having balanced headed tuning. I don't get any noticeable ringing or overtones. I know this is a big issue for people but it's been my experience that it might be exaggerated. There's also a trade off with traditional hardware in that the lugs, gaskets, screws, washers etc are bolted on the drums acting something like a straight jacket on the shells reducing natural resonance and impacting the sound to some degree. I'm not saying that even headed tuning sounds the same as independent head tuning but that there's more going on than just the heads. I also think the differences in sound character are probably not that dramatic and mixed with other instruments and processed in a recording it seems unlikely to me at least, that anyone would be able to notice. I think traditional hardware drums sound fantastic. I've played on just about every major drum company's kits and when tuned well they all sound great. For me the ease of tuning is the great benefit of cable tension hardware. It's so dramatically an easier experience compared to tuning independent lugs and if you're not a good tuner like I am then you appreciate it a lot.
@JohnMGiambalvo Жыл бұрын
@@greedfox7842 All I can say is you are wrong. The perfectly even tension top and bottom results in the fattest and cleanest drum tone I have ever heard. Nothing but harmonic overtones. Just the right amount of resonance. They are like magic. You have to be in the room with them to properly appreciate how full the sound is while the WTS is simply brilliant in its simplicity and perfect execution.
@SilentReproach Жыл бұрын
Really excited to watch this. Been seeing these on instagram and it’s such a cool concept
@timsears951 Жыл бұрын
this kit sounds awesome ..and love the tuning system ...nice
@whoisharo4689 Жыл бұрын
I mean, its clever. Its the old hand drum method on a modern kit shell. Every hole thats drilled and piece of metal lug thats bolted into a shell affects the sound. So the sound of zero holes drilled into a shell is what this produces.
@phobson70 Жыл бұрын
Love the tones out of these.
@RhysK94 Жыл бұрын
Jeez that second tuning (3 turns) is insanely good! My fave by far!
@patrickderp1044 Жыл бұрын
ok so it wasnt just me, i could feel my adrenaline pumping at 6:01 because of how good it sounded
@anotheryoutubed Жыл бұрын
5:55 hey buddy, try spinning that floor tom around, look at that! magic!
@crymeslv.1893 Жыл бұрын
I thought that too 😂
@adamalexanderray Жыл бұрын
Seems great for toms and kick. Still a little skeptical about snare tuning as the heads are so drastically different. I like getting my snare side pretty tight for a good responsive snare wire sound and the batter head around and between a medium or high tuning. I mean the snare didn’t sound bad, especially at the high tuning. It’s just a preference thing to have full control of both heads on the snare.
@norbertrenner9364 Жыл бұрын
I' m playing a selfmade single tension Snare Drum for a few Years now and this works and sounds suprisingly good,and tunes easy too,all from the top side.
@TylerNeil Жыл бұрын
The high tuning sounds so good!
@eaf27 Жыл бұрын
It's basically the same tuner I have on my bass. I like the engineering of it, and it's probably really good for beginners and hobbyists like myself if / when it becomes less expensive.
@BradsGonnaPlay Жыл бұрын
Honestly, as a touring drummer, I want it. The idea that the tension stays consistent within the drum itself is a god send for 15 minute changeovers.
@the_minimalistic_adventure Жыл бұрын
@@BradsGonnaPlay This!
@rogerwelsh2335 Жыл бұрын
Why would it be only good for a hobbyist or beginner?
@eaf27 Жыл бұрын
@@rogerwelsh2335 I'm not sure how you got that interpretation from what I said but I didn't say or imply "only", I said "really good" as there is less skill involved for tuning when using a single point to add tension evenly around the head.
@Edelweiss1102 Жыл бұрын
These sound absolutely amazing.
@BRG23 Жыл бұрын
can we all agree that as drummers, we all get excited when finding new tones while tuning our drums?:)
@WelchTuningSystemsInc Жыл бұрын
Right? The freedom to experiment and explore efficiently is something we absolutely LOVE about this setup.
@mdrumt Жыл бұрын
Booty shakers for the tom holder, works a charm and brings back some of that last sustain.
@Jeff-rh8mq Жыл бұрын
They sound good! Do they hold their tuning? Can you or do you have to keep the gold gear [worm wheel] tight with the screw? Is the cable end welded so as to not fray?
@WelchTuningSystemsInc Жыл бұрын
Thanks! The beauty of a worm gear is that it only works when adjusting that gear, meaning that resistance from the heads can't rotate the worm gear itself. As a result they'll hold tension just fine. As you got through multiple drumhead changes, you can snip off the end of the cable (we actually have cable cutters available) for a clean cut/no fraying. Because of this, you can use the cable over and over before needing to replace it.
@Jeff-rh8mq Жыл бұрын
@@WelchTuningSystemsInc thanks for the info!
@MaxDeVincenzo Жыл бұрын
I have a kit and they literally never drop tuning
@JohnMGiambalvo Жыл бұрын
@@MaxDeVincenzo Ditto! Like freaking magic!
@SpiralJucifer Жыл бұрын
I love the tactical music during the head change. haha Great sounding, versatile kit!
@KilaKrumpira Жыл бұрын
I would like to see separate cable/tuning for upper and resonant side, especially on floor tom and bass drum. This is amazing 😮
@JohnMGiambalvo Жыл бұрын
You missed the point. This system allows you to tune both heads perfectly simultaneously! After 40 years of trying different tunings, this system makes it impossible to not get great tone. It works! Period.
@bassplayingchris11 ай бұрын
That makes so much sense, im kinda amazed that hasn't been a thing for a while
@jglasernyc Жыл бұрын
It's genius, what a concept! I love this system, even tuning around the drums. Thanks for posting! The first song I would play would be When The Levee Breaks by Led Zep.
@gavmurray7398 Жыл бұрын
had this tuning system on an australian drum kit as the backline kit at a gig. it was great. jazz band first had it tuned high. soul band on straight after them the drummer tuned it down ina. couple of minutes in the change over
@davidgomersall7185 Жыл бұрын
The speed with which you went from a rock tuning to what was essentially a bebop kit was mind blowing. What was really impressive was how well the shells coped with that range of tuning, there wasn't a setting that felt "wrong", if that makes sense. And that snare was a beast...
@greedfox7842 Жыл бұрын
the snare sounds like a plastic bottle full of water, what are you talking about? >:/
@JohnMGiambalvo Жыл бұрын
Yup, you got it. No more "sweet spot". These drums have a huge range. This greed fox guy is nothing but sour grapes.
@Christopher-Baltimore Жыл бұрын
They sound great. I would love that kit.
@hapasiuhengalu7586 Жыл бұрын
This is such a dope concept! This would make tuning at shows so much faster My only two issues with it are you can’t tune the batter and reso heads to different tensions for certain effects, and I like my drums and wish I could just retrofit this tuning system onto my current setup (they probably do sell that, I haven’t googled it yet) I would be willing to get over both of those for how convenient this is The first thing I’d try to play is see if I can do pitch bending 808ish sounding kick basslines on this kit Something like Lemon by NERD
@Merlincat007 Жыл бұрын
I'll bet they could make a version with a separate system for batter and reso heads! That would amazing, especially for the snare
@WelchTuningSystemsInc Жыл бұрын
Glad you dig it! Also, you can have the batter and reso heads at different pitches but using drumheads of different thicknesses (a thinner reso, for example, will resonate at a higher pitch given the same tension as the batter). As for retrofitting existing drums, you could do this in theory but you'll probably want to plug all of the holes from your old lugs and, depending on the mounting hardware (especially for the kick), you may need to adjust the placement. All of this could be handled by a builder or even a skilled woodworker.
@Merlincat007 Жыл бұрын
@@WelchTuningSystemsInc Good idea!
@hapasiuhengalu7586 Жыл бұрын
@@WelchTuningSystemsInc woah thanks for the feedback!
@omarcortes5754 Жыл бұрын
It sounds really good. Loved that snare.
@Joestradamus Жыл бұрын
The drum key saying "plz notice me" was hilarious haha. Really cool design!
@ScOpeZyy Жыл бұрын
Dude I love ur vids u such a calm and peaceful KZbinr and just seeing u try different types of drums are amazing