Classical Composer Reacts to Master of Puppets (Metallica) | The Daily Doug (Episode 188)

[@keithfarrington6616]

Listen to the Call of Ktulu. It's the closest song to classical music as you can get. This and Orion. Album versions please

[@pentagrammaton6793]

My favourite two Metallica songs by miles. \m/

[@jasonallen5318]

@@pentagrammaton6793 Same here, favorite two Metallica songs are both instrumental, and To Live is to die is pretty high on the list too.

[@harveyb1963]

Orion still stands as my favourite Metallica song by an absolute mile, nothing even comes close. Partly sentimental but also because it just kicks so much arse

[@matejbolecek]

Exactley

[@sieni221]

And its composed by dave mustane XD

[@nickc1086]

If you want to start covering Metallica, Orion is a must. It is purely an instrumental, and a rather dynamic one.

[@opticFPV]

big 💯

[@bloodybutunbowed291]

The Call of Ktulu as well

[@twelveeighteenofficial7487]

I love me some Orion.

[@PhilBot4OOO]

All my thumbs and toes up for this! An absolute power house in rhythm and subtle progressive metal riffage!

[@matejbolecek]

Yes, but i would reccomend him the studio version, i know Doug likes reacting to live versions, but i think Orion studio version is better, because you can hear all the harmonies

[@wfly81]

Michael Kamen described Metallica's music as beautifully stark black and white pictures. And he can't improve on the black and white, so he just adds splashes of color. And I love that THAT was his philosophy in approaching their music.

[@matthewhoag2609]

Oh, you have to do the instrumental, Orion, from this same album. There’s a beautiful 6/8 interlude which showcases Cliff - he actually plays a bass solo at the end of the part that I always thought was on guitar. One of their best compositions, IMHO. Cheers!

[@Axe_Slinger]

Or Anesthesia (Pulling teeth) as a great bass feature!

[@2giantmonsters]

Orion is my favorite song from my favorite Metallica album

[@Axe_Slinger]

@@2giantmonsters It's hard to argue that! I remember taping For Whom the Bell Tolls off the radio. We were all Metalheads but when I played the song for them they didn't get why I liked it. Too fast, too loud, can't make out all the lyrics, singer has a HORRIBLE voice. I heard all these remarks and I'm sure a few more that I don't recall. By the time Master of Puppets came out they all had "got it"! It's always cool when you turned 12 to 15 people on to the band...even if it took them over a year. Then how many people did those friends turn on to the band! I kind of got a "new band" pass where if I told them to check out a new band they trusted that they should REALLY look into them since probably 6 or 8 of them would call Metallica their favorite band of all bands or performers!

[@eliaframsgimp9618]

Orion is Metallica's best. I agree Doug!

[@zacharyhusk4649]

There are 3 bass solos in orion. One is a duet with james

[@matthewayres1641]

I personally love this whole concert. The mixture of orchestra and metal is a match that is incredible.

[@iamradical]

S&M is one of the greatest concerts ever in my opinion.

[@joelmacdonald6994]

I’ve never understood how people can dislike it. So much depth and colour.

[@dee2973]

Metallica S and M is about a graceful as wrestlers with ballerinas

[@vdawg2224]

I enjoy the channel but I gotta say Doug has an uncanny ability to talk over some of the best parts. I just feel he's missing out lol

[@GregsWildlife]

Yeah, I wish he would pause the song to do some analysis. Most other react people do that. It may interrupt the flow of the song, but we're here for the analysis, we can listen to the song anytime.

[@iamradical]

I have a hard time watching reaction videos because they always ruin the best parts haha.

[@namikstudios]

There's more to say about the best parts.

[@michaelblaine6494]

I get that but his job is to talk,I’m sure he’d love to just let the song play but he has to add commentary for fair use. I know what you mean though and it makes me just go listen to the song and then come back,or I play the song first because I know he’s gonna talk over a lot of it😜

[@vdawg2224]

@@michaelblaine6494 he can pause lol I'm not so much annoyed myself, I feel bad for him missing some cool intricate parts that I'd love to hear his reaction to

[@HauntSlider]

I was at both nights of this performance. Flew out there from Ohio, stayed in a HORRID hotel after the first show and flew back home after the second show with NO sleep. Was too worried that the guy in the next room was going to shoot me while he screamed at his lady. The orchestra was SO into it. They had no idea what they were in for. When they showed up the first night, those of us who were outside the venue started to cheer for them. Pretty sure they never had that happen before. This is one of my favorite live concert memories. So glad you covered a song from it.

[@Rocketman9mm]

They blended metal and orchestra so beautifully at this concert. S&M is probably my favorite album ever. I just wish I could have gone to this show.

[@NuclearSoda]

I forgot how great Lars played in this period of the band. When you look at recent performances of this song, its like a lite version of the drums.

[@picklegallagher5807]

Bro they have aged, its completely natural

[@Blaze_Drumz]

@@picklegallagher5807 it’s not normal for a drummer to somehow get sloppier the older they get

[@joekaput747]

Got to remember, even if he's slipped a bit, he had to be on point for S&M2. Can't really mess around when you're the anchor for a full orchestra

[@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo]

@@Blaze_Drumz it's called drugs + not caring about anything due to cliffs death + age= modern Lars......

[@namikstudios]

He's epic in Seattle 89 too. Exceptionally good drummer during the 80s and 90s.

[@32a34a]

No one else mentioned it so I will. That violinist was really rocking it. Hammett really knows how to thrash a guitar when he's feeling it.

[@LuisRdzG10]

Master of Puppets is a song that should be a case of study in any school of music around the world. It has everything. Is a timeless anthem.

[@yibril17]

Actually not needed, since there is NE OBLIVISCARIS's "And Plague Flowers The Kaleidoscope" for that ;) metalinjection.net/news/ne-obliviscaris-added-to-sydney-conservatorium-music-studies-curriculum

[@andrewowler1522]

It's great to hear a composer critique this. When I was young in the 80's I always thought that metal, especially this band, had a medievel sound. It sounds like something that classical composers would have come up with. Like the soundtrack to the great crusades. The conductor said it was very well written music. The symphony really added to their sound. Great reaction.

[@eliashornwall8546]

You should react to Orion, from the same album. It's an instrumental that really shows the unique genius of their best bassist, Cliff burton. Also, please, for the love of all that is good in this world, do the studio version. Metallica is a great band but they (Lars) can't really play live.

[@MrBassmaster72]

I don’t even know where to start with that ignorant last sentence. Is Lars the best drummer ever? Certainly not. However, he has played thousands of live shows all over the world for arguably the biggest metal band ever. I know it’s the “cool” thing to dump on Lars but to say he can’t play live is asinine.

[@eliashornwall8546]

@@MrBassmaster72 I know it’s a bit of an over exaggeration to say that he can’t play live, but you must admit, he’s not exactly the most consistent drummer ever. Just in this video even, he’s not looking too good, and this is where he played with an orchestra, so presumably he actually tried for this one, instead of the rest, where he either was 24 and high on cocaine or older and just gave up. There are some “questionable” drum fills he likes to do that gets sprinkled in, with his otherwise mediocre playing, which all in all makes live Metallica a less than adequate live experience. The few exceptions to me are the old stuff from when he was younger and could still play fast, and the absolute latest tours from 2017-2019 when they actually started trying again. Still Lars’s weird fills and his tempo changes still makes their live stuff very sub par. So no I’m not just dunking on him cause it’s popular. The sad fact is he just isn’t very good live. Ps. This is not to discredit his huge impact on metal or to say that he is a bad songwriter. Just saying he’s not very tight. Edit: Spelling errors.

[@aldersmoke1]

Nothing is more exasperating than the Lars hate. I play in bands and I'm super picky about drummers, and I've watched a ton of live Metallica footage. Lars is fine. I swear every modern metalhead expects every drummer to be all blast beats and double bass or they suck. Lars actually has interesting, syncopated ideas, as opposed to hitting every drum every 2 seconds.

[@MrBassmaster72]

@@eliashornwall8546 I agree with you on this post. This was said much better. Well said. Lars may be a bit sloppy for sure but who cares really? The influence he had on metal music is huge and ask any metal drummer out there and they cite Lars as an influence. I do miss the fast younger days. We are on the same page with that. It just gets under my skin having to defend Lars. I’ve always liked him and he had a big impact on me personally. I think of it like basketball sometimes. Is the last guy on the bench for an NBA team as good as LeBron or Jordan? No they aren’t. But that doesn’t mean they can’t play well. Are they the best ever? No. Could they dominate any “normal” Joe Blow basketball player? Every time. I have seen Metallica a dozen times live and never did I consider it to be a marginal experience. It’s been fantastic every time and I’ll always continue to go see them live. No matter what kind of nite Lars may be having at the time. With that said, I appreciate you clarifying your position and thanks much for not taking it personally and simply making your point. I sure wish everyone could do that but it appears to be a lost art these days. Have a good one man! Keep jammin!!!

[@Broccoli_Highkicks]

If you're going to a rock & roll show and expecting a perfect reproduction of the studio recording, you've missed the point rather tragically. As Mantas of the famously shambolic band Venom once screeched into the mic, "If you want to hear Venom [studio recording quality and accuracy], go home and listen to your fucking LPs, cuz tonight you are gonna get one and a half hours of pure fucking mayhem!" A big aspect of going to a live metal show is rocking out, not counting beats or trying to get a good cellphone clip for the Youtoobs. In a live situation, passion and feel are more important than accuracy, at least in heavy rock music. Besides, every rock & roll show ought to be a unique experience with spur of the moment improvisation, crowd interaction, etc. - what's the point of seeing a band twice if it's the same exact show each time? That's something I greatly miss about the 1970s, when any given show could feature long stretches of improvisation, impromptu alternate arrangements of songs, etc. When a rock concert could actually be a unique musical event, instead of a carbon copy of every other night of the tour. Also, I think it's a bit rich to complain to the creators of the piece that "that's not how you played it the first time!". I remember when Prince smoked the Superbowl half-time show, which probably will stand as the greatest of all time, hearing people jeer and complain that he didn't play the Purple Rain solo exactly as it was on the record. OK, when YOU write a monster hit song and are widely recognized as one of the greatest guitar players and performers in popular music, YOU go out and play it note-perfect every single night... I think when you write a song, you get to play it any way you damn well please. But music fans get so entitled, they think because they bought the record and the shirt, they can put the artist in their back pocket. Having ranted about all that, it is true enough that Lars does not have the skills to back up his overinflated rock star ego - everyone knows this, even Metallica knows this. Hell, James turned Lars down the first time they jammed together because Lars was so bad. But Metallica would never have been what it was and is without Lars. And hey, in a live situation I don't really care if he takes shortcuts, and ultimately, people who get too anal about details and technique tend to be people who spend their whole life practising in their bedroom and never inspiring a single kid to pick up an instrument.

[@AbundanceOfBees]

Your discord notifications are giving me mini-heart attacks.

[@Doug.Helvering]

fixed it...sorry

[@AbundanceOfBees]

@@Doug.Helvering You're a real hero, Duggy

[@FarazOloumi]

lmao

[@florianmarcher]

I was looking through my whole discord to find the notification during the whole video ^^

[@invertedcross6435]

Death - Voice of the Soul. Beautiful instrumental.

[@victormelendez6972]

It's really dangerous to the ears when the real hardcore death metal bands touch up on the instrumental songs.. they know how and when to tone it down and they truly deliver.. like say, for example, this one that you mentioned and also, Lead Me Home by Shadows Fall.. true masterpieces among others from different bands

[@alvarogonzales4145]

I really appreciate this version of this song. S and M was my first CD of Metallica that I had. Its epic listen metal with the symphonic orchestra.

[@ByloBand]

It's important to note: this was the first song of the show where James actually sang (Call of Ktulu was first) so this was his vocal warm up song!

[@carlosrobles5591]

The Ecstacy of Gold/Call of Ktulu/Master Of Puppets from this concert, should be listened to uninterruptedly as one piece. The most epic rock concert evert.

[@PatNetherlander]

Newsted on fire! Those backing vocals will haunt you back home! What a beast!

[@pauloviniciosappelt9789]

Also, about this song, there are some curious facts that I believe would be nice to share: 1st- there's a riff from the song, after the second solo (the one from Kirk) that was from a David Bowie song, it was an homage from Cliff! 2nd - in most performances (not this one, sadly), James sings Pancakes instead of fix me just before a solo (in this particular version, it was "Fix me baby"). Besides being funny for its randomness, it's also an homage to Cliff (from a joke he made in the last tour he was), and would be amazing to see your reaction to it, sadly it didn't happen

[@S666GRJ]

Pancakes go!

[@squidmate]

Doug, your assessment is dead nuts on, and the message is as relevant (if not more) today than when the song was recorded. This performance and recording is glorious, the only thing I can complain about is that all the orchestral goings-on cover up how tight and effortlessly the four Metallica guys perform a f!?king hard song. This is an amazing performance no matter how you slice it.

[@FractionalBruce]

Hey Doug, loving the reacts! Your channel popped up on my suggestions a few months back and I haven’t looked back since! I’d highly recommend the track ‘Cirice’ by Ghost, there’s some really interesting harmonies going on in the piece and I think you’ll enjoy it ✌️😄

[@jakfrost25]

I’ve got to say, I MUCH prefer the orchestra in the S&M2 arrangement. It actually feels like a properly integrated part of the piece, as opposed to in juxtaposition with Metallica themselves, which this version sounds like.

[@metalmark1214]

Doug, if you are going to do another Metallica, many I'm sure would like you to react to Orion on Master of Puppets or Call of Ktulu on Ride the Lighting, both instrumentals. Studio versions.

[@ChasingDonnieBaseball]

5:16 > "...chop your breakfast on a mirror" is as overt as it gets :) Nicely done on this video...really enjoyed it.

[@DeanCutsforth]

Doug, I sincerely adore these videos. To see somebody as clearly knowledgeable and informed as you enjoy these songs really makes me feel good! Thanks, mate. :)

[@dirk4896]

I loved your commentary at the end dude.

[@TheSuperSnake313]

This concert was such a unique experience when it happened, so glad they decided to do this again. Helps to show ppl the classical nature of rock music

[@koolkutz7]

Wise words there at the end from you Doug. I was 15 years old when I first heard Master of Puppets (on cassette; I had pre-ordered it from my local music store) and...Wow, it blew my socks off, and my speakers out! It's still one of my favourite Metallica songs to date.

[@bvtexas]

Just found this channel a few hours ago and it is GOLD! Really love what you are doing here!

[@RedLP5000S]

No Leaf Clover is my favorite track from this concert.🤘🏻

[@alexanderkuptsov6117]

Same

[@Pirustae]

The Outlaw Torn, Ktulu, No Leaf Clover and -Human, Bleeding Me are the best ones with the orchestra. They're beautiful. And dear Doug, I encourage you to pause and then analyze the pieces you speak about. You're missing a lot.

[@sharpvamp]

The brass does so much heavy lifting in this entire album and is rarely acknowledged

[@pauloviniciosappelt9789]

It's an incredible song for sure! For the next Metallica, I have two recommendations, either Orion (from the same album) or The Call of Ktulu (from Ride the Lightning, the one before Master). But if it's possible, I'd recommend their studio version (even though Orion has amazing performances with their bassist Rob Trujillo, and and Ktulu was featured in both S&M and S&M2), because these are 2 masterpieces by Cliff Burton, and should be listened with him playing every riff, every interlude, every solo (and yes, there are bass solos in both songs). If the time comes and you still prefer to listen to a live version, Ktulu has several presentations with Cliff, Jason (particularly S&M with the SF Orchestra) and Rob. For Orion, though, if it's a live version, it must be Turin 2019, in the official Metallica KZbin channel, it was played that day as an homage to Cliff, and it's beautiful. Sadly Cliff never got to play it live, so the only recording we have with his bass is the studio version. Waiting for more metal mondays!

[@pratorty7770]

finally someone that talk about Cliff

[@Ayyem93]

@@pratorty7770 is this a joke? Metallica fans act like there hasn't been a bassist in the band since he died

[@pratorty7770]

@@Ayyem93 it really depends, a really huge part of the metallica community don't really care about the bassist. But when it comes about some old metallica songs more people talk about Cliff. I personally think that the others bassist that metallica have (and had) are really good but obviously they're not Cliff and don't have the same approach with music.

[@pauloviniciosappelt9789]

@@kizinak9779 oh, you should look at the date I posted my comment, and the days he reacted to these songs. When I commented, three months ago, he still hadn't reacted to them, so I suggested. And the collective efforts of not only me, but all the people who also commented on these songs took his attention and allowed him to acknowledge the songs and react to them

[@kizinak9779]

@@pauloviniciosappelt9789 I'm sorry, I'm a dumbass, thought the video was recent

[@mco7776]

The DVD allows you to play the audio 2.0 with orchestra only! Bonus features.

[@sticktoyourdrums8177]

Lars’ energy was so high back then. I think it’s what is lacking currently. I’ve never minded his nontechnical playing. I kinda like the fuck it approach.

[@chokeblok]

Hey Doug, please keep making this content! Your analysis are great and to pluck the notes out the air as you go along is truly incredible.

[@Kwigs_kun]

Thanks so much for reacting to this! Wish more reactors would react to this version, appreciate the orchestral element isn't to everyone's taste but personally I think it elevates an already epic song to an even higher level. Best live performance of any song I've ever seen

[@thecabinetninja5637]

As a band geek, I always wanted to hear Metallica’s dramatic and dynamic music with an orchestra, and S&M blew my mind. It is the best rock performance I’ve ever seen.

[@Mr.Schitzengigglez]

Page and Plant, with the Boston Symphony Orchestra.. if you can find it.. It's circa 1995.

[@jimmylegs06]

James in 1986 about Master Of Puppets "I was a a party in SF (san francisco) and it was just a bunch of freaks shooting up. Made me sick"

[@sukdufai4368]

Mr. Doug I think it’s time to bust out some Haken- with the kind of amazing dissection you do and what you seem to gravitate towards, I think either “Visions” or “Crystallised” would be right up your alley.

[@matthewperkins2827]

Yes. Haken please.

[@hyl14nn1gh7]

Check out Haken! (rhymes with bacon) Falling Back to Earth Celestial Elixer (this one's long) Cockroach King (album ver) 1985 The Architect (another long one) Earthrise (the most pop of their songs) Aquarium Visions (long)

[@joelbarker421]

as much fun as this version is I wish he would have done an older live or even the album version to me the added instruments take away more then they give

[@JoeyArmstrong2800]

Kinda sounds like two songs fighting each other. Complete mess really.

[@producermind9030]

Agree. The original album song would have better. I do not like the strings at all in this version.

[@joaquinlezcano2372]

@@producermind9030 yes, but he didn't like at all Holy Wars. If that happens with Megadeth, ¿what thing we should expect from Metallica

[@69mosshead]

Seattle 89

[@paulmoran7026]

So true… this is awful. He should have done the studio version of MoP.

[@Scurr7]

Well unlike the rest of the comments, I love this version. Might be because this was the first Metallica album I listened to as a kid, but I remember it just being a sound that I hadn't heard before and becoming obsessed with it.

[@austinlange7210]

Always liked how they drop the melody in the pre-chorus and let the orchestra carry it

[@paolongong]

The studio version of MoP sounds so tight! Because they recorded it at slower tempo and sped it up for the mixing/mastering (probably they were even tuned slightly lower than E for that). I agree that Orion or Call of Ktulu should be the next ones. I always wonder why Lars makes such big difference between studio and live versions...

[@michaelshields7777]

Awesome reaction, Doug! Yesh, Metallica did a stellar performance here with the symphony orchestra. I'm pretty sure the members of the orchestra weren't used to having a loud, raucous singing audience before too, hehehe!!! You should do a reaction to Kiss live with the Melbourne symphony. "I was Made For Loving You" would be an awesome choice!!!

[@RaptorMk2]

I love the constant tension that the chromaticism brings to this song. Also, I like that it's such a popular modern song and in sonata form.

[@guydelorme8641]

If you want to be free,refuse to be a puppet,stay sober!

[@shmick6079]

“The Call of Ktulu” from the same concert is incredible.

[@GentleDemon999]

Perfect! This live symphonic live interpretation of MOP is very emblematic. One of the most beautiful and powerful song ever made. Simple as that. Kudos! Nice channel man.

[@guguigugu]

dropping a beat or two is their signature almost

[@Kylora2112]

That main verse riff has a bar of 21/32, but it's all done by feel (so like, 5/8 with a little extra). A lot of old Metallica, especially on Master Of Puppets and ...And Justice For All have some odd time signatures (the main riff in Blackened is in 7/4, stuff like that).

[@wfly81]

I love that James trusts his audience to hit that flat 2 on the second "MASTER!"

[@MattKrogmeier]

I'd still really love you to react to "The Attitude Song" by Steve Vai, done with an orchestra. I think you'd be interested in the time signature changes. It's just compositionally interesting! Another I'm dying to see you do is Zappa's "The Black Page" - so named because the score has so many notes, there's more black than white on the page!

[@austinlange7210]

My music teacher in HS was a big fan of this album when it came out, not because they enjoyed Metallica but because they were a fan of Michael Kamen 🤣

[@ca9968]

Apocalyptica would be right up your alley, classical covers of Metallica and Sepultura to name a few...

[@micharekosiewicz8660]

This very performance of Metallica was what turned me into a metalhead back in 2004! Love it!

[@ephesians.6]

And again!! Talked through almost the whole beginning of the middle section!! Why Doug whyyyy 😭😭😭😭😭 I'll never leave your channel I just have to love you anyway. Also fun fact, the flat ii is what makes thrash metal what it is. The up a step modulation and then back to original key done with chromatic steps thrown in. Just a fun fact from a metal head. Love ya Doug!!!

[@letstalkmetal6867]

Black horsemen by king diamond🤘🤘 the whole album Abigail is an amazing story and black horsemen is an amazing closer

[@opticFPV]

Also going to recommend Orion. A live version would be cool, but as much as I LOVE Cliff Burton, I would recommend a newer live performance with Rob Trujillo just because of the audio and video quality, and Rob is a killer bassist too. The studio version would be awesome too.

[@2410-s9l]

I would recommend the studio version.

[@wm-nu1yf]

This version was ok, but the album version is so much better. The orchestra is a nice addition to some of their songs, but it is just distracting and unnecessary for this one, even during the slower section.

[@beet6le380]

Yeah. MoP is a really chromatic song. But orchestra used so many scales on major. Making it seem like a happy song. Which didnt go pretty well. MoP isn't an epic song, but the orchestra tryed to do it that way. If they tryed to catch the same vibe as the song but not tryed to make it something that its not, it would have been better. The entire S&M is like that, they maded every other song epic style. Which did go well with some songs, some didn't.

[@ScottReedsStringTheory]

I've always thought the same thing, unfortunately.

[@wm-nu1yf]

@@beet6le380 This song and One are two songs that they really have to include in any concert. It worked OK for One, but it just seems like since they had to play this, they had to add the orchestra to it to make it fit the set. I think it would have worked better if the orchestra would have just doubled the guitars and bass during the main riffs. I completely respect what they did with it but I remember when Master came out in 86 and never would have dreamed that that kind of music would ever be attempted by an orchestra. The song was already as perfect as it could be in its original form. Any tinkering is just going to detract from that in my opinion.

[@d.s1014]

Agree. It doesn’t sound right imo

[@Pizvo]

It depends, really. The first version i ever heard and listened to when i started listening to metal was from the S&M album, so for me the original sounds dry and boring even today. If you attached personal meaning or feelings to the original, all other versions that deviate this much are going to be "not it". It's psychological in nature...

[@themanwhosoldtheworld5350]

Should do "Outlaw Torn" or "Bleeding Me" from the same concert. More groove and bluesy hard rock songs.

[@frankiebq5604]

Awesome, also cool message at the ending Doug

[@x666xIronMaiden]

This is in my opinion when they hit their peak as a live group. This specific show Lars was so accurate for once too.

[@zacharyhusk4649]

The parts the crowd sang. Master of puppets im pulling your strings Twisting your mind and smashing your dreams Blinded by me you can't see a thing Just call my name cause i'll hear you scream

[@DerHerrMitR]

How can you talk over the half time midsection? Like...how? It's so beautiful. the orchestra elevates it to another level. Like...how?

[@MoreRonified]

I was hoping you would be the first reaction to notice and point out since you're a composer. Cliff is a classical fan and one of his favorites is Bach. Classical music tells a story and this song can be understood without the lyrics. It's fast paced meaning how the world seems and you're frantic to get your fix. It then slows down and mellows out meaning you got your fix and when it speeds up again at a heavier tempo than the first. This shows what it's like when your fix wears off. Good reaction though.

[@RainbowAceOfSpades]

Would love to see a Wintersun (Sons of Winter and Stars) reaction! Or Galneryus (Angel of Salvation. Full song). Also Ne Obliviscaris (song: And Plague Flowers) too!

[@petergjata1498]

I second Ne Obliviscaris

[@yibril17]

@@petergjata1498 Such a sadness to see them completely and continuously overlooked... Go figure the number of people that talk about Cliff Burton, yet nobody knows of the work in bass by Brendan "Cygnus" Brown... But "Hey! This song is an anthem up to this day, therefore, it must be good for that to happen!"...

[@fbdt]

Doug, react to Big Big Train. Suggest 'East Coast Racer' from live performance (or Victorian Brickwork). I guarantee that you will not regret the choice. I listen to prog over 20 years now and this band is a true gem!

[@jimmyggs91]

Yo Doug, a heads up, I think your Discord was with sound notifications on, and it could be heard a couple times on the video, I even thought it was my Discord at first 😁

[@petethedrummer]

It sounds like an orchestra is playing an unrelated song in the next room.

[@mirkecWii]

Thats One for me

[@ANWEsuigeneris]

Totally agree

[@yuriykorotkevych8838]

Exactly my thoughts. What a great song it is in its original album variant, and what an unlistenable mess it is in this performance, unfortunately.

[@Insight99999]

And imagine that this one was one of the most "successful" of the show...

[@mirkecWii]

Tbh I think S&M is amazing, its just that some songs don't really work

[@Chicagodog-tu1ek]

Especially in the 90's Metallica said that they tuned at least a half-step down for all of their songs to preserve James's Voice, because he blew it out in '90 during the Black Album.

[@talitabarreto569]

Metallica - No Leaf Clover (San Francisco Simphony) is amazing and a good one to react!

[@louisd95714]

The entire Master of Puppets album is about the way people are controlled. The song Master of Puppets was specifically written to convey how cocaine controls people.

[@somedude5414]

I've always loved flying French Horns. The Star Trek II Soundtrack is chock full of them!

[@micaelmelomachado]

Hi, Doug! If you like metal music along with orchestra check out the swedish band Therion, specially their live album " The Miskolc Experience", where they play along with a full orchestra! You could check their cover versions to classical artists songs, but I strogly recommed their own songs, specially "The Rise of Sodom and Gomorrah" or "Schwarzalbenheim"!

[@freakazoid314]

Metallica like to add b2 and b5 to the scale they're playing in, because it's metal of course, and it has to sound evil! Also, the part when you say they're cheating with the beat, it's true. It's done unintentionally of course, it just sounded good to them and they went for it.

[@jasonmurray8777]

I attribute the E-flat tuning to Hendrix and the effect that his tuning has had on the ears of generations of subsequent guitarists.

[@m1stertim]

the discord beep boop had me so confused

[@workingmanbh]

Don't know if anyone noted this, but the original S&M DVD is like the CD, double discs. But there's a orchestral only track!

[@anthonynichols3678]

There's a reason they're the biggest band on the planet

[@miguelanxomuradolo2638]

Hi, Doug! I really like a lot all your analysis, specially those on classic metal, and they always help me to catch some harmonical issues. But, in my opinion, it's a pity when you choose live interpretations, specially on metal genres, as musicians usually are on then more dedicated to create an atmosphere of feelings with the audience than to recreate their compositions in the optimal way (and, of course, sound is not as good and worked as at studio recordings). In this occasion, I think this orchestral version is not the best for this song (well, I really don't find SM album of interest because its poor orchestral arrangements). In fact, I missed more of your interesting musical comments on this video; I guess the songs deserves it. The same for others on Iron Maiden, for example, when alive recordings were chosen. By the way, you are right: you catched the deep sense of the song, beyond its first significance on drugs. In fact, almost all songs at Master of Puppets album are about different ways of control, in that particular way of Metallica's lyrics, in wich their recitation came from the evil being that they critic, according with their aggressive style and sound. Thank you a lot for your nice and interesting work over here (and sorry for my poor English). Best regards ;-)

[@mrnobody6447]

kind of makes you wonder his opinion on game soundtracks.

[@GSF0001]

James's voice in the this recording is amazing.

[@nolanjenkins4180]

I'd love to see something from The Mars Volta's Deloused in the Comatorium. That was such a powerful album.

[@yazidknopfler8640]

u should react to the whole concert. This is a perfection

[@Duncan_Idaho_Potato]

"Loss of control" as a lyrical theme is ALL OVER James' lyrics from that entire era of the band. Pretty much every song on Ride the Lightning is related to that theme to one degree or another: "Fight Fire with Fire": the threat of annihilation in a nuclear war "Ride the Lightning": imprisonment, capital punishment "For Whom the Bell Tolls": frightened soldier on the front lines of war "Fade to Black": mental illness leading to suicide, death in general "Trapped Under Ice": self-explanatory "Escape": oppression by society, social outcast "Creeping Death": Divine retribution, judgment from God And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Young James Hetfield was clearly writing about his personal fear of having control over his life being ripped away from him by one thing or another.

[@aldersmoke1]

Do the studio version. The orchestra overwhelms everything here, not to mention Hetfield only singing half the lyrics.

[@JasonJohnsonMa]

I kept checking my darn notifications.. that's a beep from MS Teams I think lol.. giving me anxiety over here!! lol great review as always!

[@charleshill9546]

maybe this would have benefited from "compare and contrast" of the two versions as opinions seem divided below but leaning towards the studio rather than +orch version. I don't know either version so can't comment on which would be better

[@dovlassaturnus7805]

I think you should analyze James's work a bit more, especially transitions and how he plays with melodies, transmutating them in a song in such a unique way. After 20+ years of listening to Metallica I always find something new!

[@carlosgarcao2847]

You really need to check King Crimson albuns. Different eras, different formations. In the court of; Lizard, Red, Starless, Discipline, Thrack, The ConstruKction of Light . Give a chance to a Italian Prog Avant bliss as Area

[@davidgilbert7994]

For next week i recommend Hangar 18 by Megadeth

[@myturbulance]

KTULU MAN! in this concert, ktulu is the thing that you can talk about

[@Kashmir-t1w]

By the way the vocal of James was so good.... this might be his best vocal after his prime(Justice~Black album era)

[@RÅNÇIÐ]

Gotta do "The Call Of Ktulu" from this

[@RakuPL]

Wasn't Garage Inc the last album with Jason?

[@rovshanavila5018]

I will forever mantain that as far as live albums goes this is James's peak vocally...

[@roldanrosario8292]

Please react to “No Leaf Clover”. Metallica composed it as an exclusive song for this show with the San Francisco Symphony.