Re-Amping & Analog Mixing with the Volt 476P Audio Interface

[@Producelikeapro]

You beat me to it! I just got one to try and demoing a song now using it.

[@EdThorne]

There’s a first for everything 🙂🤘 Rock’n’Roll.

[@Producelikeapro]

@@EdThorne haha indeed

[@spiegelkind2387]

Ahh! Great to see a reviewer who posts spectrums from ProQ, really useful to compare freq responses.

[@jalapenowarrior1665]

I have no idea what I'm doing, but I just bought a 476P. I'm diving into the DAW world, but it's all new to me. Thanks for the video.

[@EdThorne]

Good luck on your journey making music! 🤘🔥

[@PurpleMusicProductions]

Wow I'm seriously interested in this!!!

[@rome8180]

I have the 476 and am really enjoying it. I just started experimenting with running my tracks out into analogue gear. But for some reason, the Volt is very finicky about the way I do it. It would only work when I ran out of Output 3 or 4. And I had to have the mono button engaged. Also, the latency is bad enough where even Logic's ping test wasn't enough to offset it. This is not the end of the world, but it does mean that if I bounce a track with effects and bring it back into my session I'd have to nudge it back into place. I think I may stick to simply running whole mixes through my analogue gear. That way the latency shouldn't matter since I won't be trying to line it up with anything else. If anyone has any other ideas for why I may be getting such extreme latency when I'm literally just running out of my Volt, into a dbx channel strip, and back into the Volt, I'd love to hear it. I want to get more analogue gear but don't want to be limited in how I use it (or to have to buy yet another interface down the road).

[@davebelknap3220]

It's great that you can reamp directly. But what if you want to use it in this manner to send the track through an amp and or external effect? To re-amp one would still need a Re-amping device for proper level output. Am I missing something? Thank you for your time and insight with a response.

[@creativedecysions]

What’s the difference between the monitor output 1-2 and the direct out 1-2. I’m asking because I want to run tracks out of the computer from 476p and back into to my daw,

[@EdThorne]

The monitor outs are connected to the monitor volume dial. The other outputs are not and are line-level outputs (DAW controlled level).

[@brushstroke3733]

Is there somthing wrong with me or my hearing if I can't really hear a difference between all the settings? I could hear the change when the compressor plug-in was added, but barely noticed any change with the onboard vintage mode and analog compressor. Should I give up any hope of recording songs people will ever listen to?

[@EdThorne]

Try listening on different speakers and headphones. You’ll be hard pushed to hear it on your computer/phone speakers. Listen to the mid range for vintage Mode, and the signal controlling with the compression.

[@brushstroke3733]

@@EdThorne Thanks for the advice. I was listening with in ear headphones (earbuds?) and I've never had a great ear for compression or subtle EQ changes, but I'll try again when I get some better headphones. Problem is, I probably won't get better headphones until after I buy an interface! Anyway, great review and thanks for answering your comments!

[@EdThorne]

@@brushstroke3733 Our ears are constantly improving, don’t worry if you can’t hear straight away 🙂

[@edisonguerra88]

Great vid, although UAD is failing to provide the LA-2A and Pure Plate Reverb as a promotion for the customers who did already buy the Volts interface prior to this big sale. I dont think is fair, Shame.

[@yoryanacortizar9998]

Hello. I have purchased a universal audio volt 476p and want to use it for live performances as well. I have a connection problem. I need to connect a trumpet, a keyboard, a microphone to the interface and I have an iPad where I play the backing tracks, but I also need to use a mixer. So when I use the front inputs that come directly from the instruments and microphones and I use the outputs that then go to the mixer, only the two monitor outputs work, which are the first two channels that I connect to the mixer. The other outputs do not. Please can you help me with that kind of connection? Thanks

[@EdThorne]

Have you got the I/O monitoring buttons selected on the right hand side? I believe a combination of those need to be on.

[@yoryanacortizar9998]

@@EdThorne thank you so much for the answer. I will check hopefully can works

[@ChrisTopheRaz]

I’m having a hard time between this unit, or the SSL 12. I’m coming from the Apogee Duet 2 which I still have and will keep. I’m also recording sessions in garage band lately and then exporting the project into Logic desktop to mix. One other thing I have which can be used with both the UA and the SSL is a UA 710 tube preamp.

[@thecoastCoverband]

Hi Ed is it wise to trade in my Apollo twinX for the VOLT 476P? I need more inputs and the 2 headphone outputs. Thank you Gr Ness

[@EdThorne]

Definitely not! The Apollo is a far superior interface. Try adding an ADAT preamp expansion rack such as the Audient ASP800, or Clarett OctoPre

[@thecoastCoverband]

@@EdThorne Thank you Ed and also thank you for your super show's

[@EdThorne]

@@thecoastCoverband You’re very welcome. I hope they’re helpful 🙂

[@VedunianCraft]

That's an awesome review! I'm doing some research on this interface and found that it's USB bus powered? Is that correct? With all its features it looks like it needs more than 5V power. Or can I power it with he AC adapter and work normally on my PC? Hope you can share some light on this matter! I'm really on the fence of getting it!

[@EdThorne]

Thanks. Yes, it is buss powered but also supplied with an additional power cable so the USB-C port can be used for iOS/PC recording.

[@VedunianCraft]

@@EdThorne Thanks a lot! I appreciate the quick answer 💪!!

[@sergioandresvahos281]

This Volt does run without problems on Windows?

[@clintonmaher6930]

Almost every demo of these interfaces online fails to mention where the threshold is set for the compressor, and crazily UA don't even mention this in the manual. As a result almost all demos engage the compressor and aren't actually doing any compression because they are aren't reaching the threshold with the signal. The 6db extra gain is supposed to act as makeup gain for any compression done - the threshold seems to be at around -12db. So if you are using the compressor you need to go over this threshold level to actually do any compression otherwise all your are doing is engaging a gain boost.

[@EdThorne]

You can hear the levelling out of the signal in the demonstrations, no?

[@clintonmaher6930]

@@EdThorne I was talking about other demos on KZbin, not yours. I should have made that more clear sorry - was just putting the info out there for potential buyers.

[@EdThorne]

@@clintonmaher6930 Ah, no worries. You raise a very good point though.

[@oneandonlyarajivp]

WOuld the 48v be applied to all 4 inputs though? I'd like to be able to connect my vocal microphone and guitar cab sim in stereo. If i toggle the 48V on input 1, i wouldnt want that to be applied to input 2 and 3 too.

[@noathere9340]

It has one phantom power for all 4 so they all turn on all at once, you can go for ssl 12, kinda the same deal with 4separate phantom powers and 32bit record quality

[@intriguedviewer501]

There's been a few complaints about the line output level being too high and clipping within the output section of the interface. Have you encountered this?

[@EdThorne]

I haven’t no. But I suspect they’re referring to the line outputs which aren’t connected to the monitor volume control dial and so are very loud!

[@billyman090]

You said you can't bypass the press. Is that the case even when using the line ins at the back of the interface

[@ahmedalfkeki8013]

I got it today, but I am facing a problem. When I turn up the volume of the headphone to the highest level, the sound card cuts and restarts itself. Is this normal because it is protected from loud sound, or is there a problem?

[@Exaltation-heliacal]

How can you re amp if it’s a line out and not instrument out?

[@DanielPestanaTranslations]

When reamping, are outputs 3 and 4 bound to the headphones, like in the Focusrite 4i4? I want to use my guitar pedals as outboard gear in my DAW, but be able to track them in my headphones, which from what I’ve seen in other KZbin videos, isn’t possible in the 4i4. And by the way, in Volt, what’s the difference between the Monitor outputs and the regular outputs? Thanks

[@EdThorne]

Good questions. So, you have the pairs of input and output monitor selectors so you can choose which combination of I/O you hear. The regular outputs are for sending out channels (for re-amping), the monitor outs are your default stereo outs you computer and DAW will auto set as outputs. Only these outputs are connected to the monitor volume dial.

[@DanielPestanaTranslations]

@@EdThorne Thank you so much Ed. I truly appreciate it. So, in short, the monitor outputs are for my studio monitors and the regular outputs are for whatever I choose to do (like reamping, as you said). I assume the monitor outputs are the ones probably bound to the headphone output, since there’s no such thing in the Focusrite 4i4. Sorry for all the questions, I read their manual and it’s not helpful at all regarding this matter.

[@tomwaterman9687]

@@DanielPestanaTranslations Hiya, so OUT 1-4 are available from the USB driver and signal shows up on the 4 TRS line outs, you can use this to feed re-amp gear etc - but best to use 3-4 for that. This way you leave OUT 1-2 for your DAW monitor signal. In order to get that OUT 1-2 signal to the MON L/R outputs and to your speakers, you must select OUT1-2 in the monitor switch matrix. You can combine IN 1-2, IN 3-4 with this signal to hear whatever you are looping back in low-latency. You can also "pull" OUT 3-4 to your speakers in this way. I hope that helps. It's best to use 2 of the 4 USB channels for monitoring and 2 for hardware sends. They headphone output is tied to whatever MON L/R is listening too, so not tied to OUT 3-4 directly in any way, although if you route OUT 3-4 to MON L/R, it will be present in the Headphones then too.

[@tommy_shooter632]

@Daniel Pestana did you get this working at all? I bought a 4i4 and am so frustrated that Outputs 3/4 are bound to the headphones and couldn't get a reamp setup going at all. Bought a 476 (arriving next week) hoping I could get at least 1 channel I could use for mono reamping through pedals, seems that if I only use headphones (which is the case anyway) I might have up to 4 channels (doubt I'll ever go beyond 1/2 realistically). Really p*ssed off about the 4i4 though, really can't wrap my head around the design at all, and don't get me started on the Focusrite Control software haha

[@mitadonac91]

Is it possible to direct monitoring Inputs 1-2 and 3-4 at the same time when computer is turned off? Tnx!

[@EdThorne]

Yes. Assuming you’re using the 5v power cable included to power the interface.

[@mitadonac91]

Ok, tnx! Is it possible Volt be connected to computer with usb and at the same time DC adapter? Tnx!

[@EdThorne]

@@mitadonac91 Yes. Both cables are provided.

[@KipCount]

Is the higher latency on these Volts a legit concern or not much different in real world use compared to Scarlett, etc. ?

[@EdThorne]

I have latency specs on my website. Off the top of my head o can’t remember what the difference is but you won’t hear it.

[@KipCount]

@@EdThorne thanks Ed. I appreciate the quick reply.

[@kenzorwings]

I'm in an big trouble and I think only you can get me out of them! I do not know what to choose between Lewitt Connect-6,Audient iD14 mkII or UAD Volt 176/276 ? At the moment I own an Audient iD4+dbx286s ,but I just want to upgrade the sound quality nothing more inputs / outputs. Thanks a lot genius!

[@EdThorne]

I will be doing a video on the Control 6 soon. It’s looking like a VERY tough decision! Each has amazing features!

[@mistercheetah9717]

If I wanted to run audio from my daw out the 476 and into rackmounted delays and reverbs from the 80s and back into the software, would this be possible or is the 476P required?

[@Sebastianandthedeepbluemusic]

not a ua user but looking at this for a mobil rig so I can go to my rehearsal spot and track. Seems like the best move with the plugins that come with it too. But this would just be a mobile rig. So would I be able to use UA plugins at my spot, while using the apogee ensemble? or do I have to have volt or some sort of UA dongle plugged in to use the UA plugs? Hope this makes sense it is kinda a confusing question.

[@EdThorne]

The LA2A included with this interface (for a short time only - see UA website for promo duration) would be available to use anywhere via a UA Connect account (Free) as are all the Native plugins with the Spark Subscription bundle. No dongles are needed for any UA plugin. Either a Subscription is needed (via a UA Connect account) or an Apollo interface or a Satellite DSP core.

[@Sebastianandthedeepbluemusic]

@@EdThorne cool, if I had this interface I could then buy some UA plugs, but not have to be on a subscription?

[@Sebastianandthedeepbluemusic]

or can I just do that now without an interface or subscription? in the before times I thought I needed an interface

[@EdThorne]

@@Sebastianandthedeepbluemusic No. you can only run the DSP plugins on an Apollo interface or a Satellite DSP core - OR - you get the subscription and run a small collection of the Native plugins. There’s no in between. ATM only the LA2A is slipping through the gap as a promo with this interface.

[@Sebastianandthedeepbluemusic]

@@EdThorne oh sweet that makes it more worth it then haha thanks soooo much, I dint want to spend hours tryin to figure that out. I really appreciate. subbed. hope the rest of your day goes well!

[@sti8324]

is it possible to run dual monitor setup meaning can I A-B my mix on diff monitors by pressing out 1-2 and out 3-4?

[@EdThorne]

Yes, BUT only outs 1&2 are connected to your monitor volume knob, 3&4 will come out at line level and probably VERY loud. You’d need to compensate for these output somewhere.

[@beatsNonStop]

@@EdThorne yea well. Um I forgot to compensate for the loudness. And well ya. My chair turned a nice shade of brown :)

[@EdThorne]

@@beatsNonStop Ouch. Yeh it’s loud.

[@saqin-sunpole0o0o0opdok2]

Greetings to all! Tell me please, volt476p + MacM1 + Logic, is it possible to somehow set up separate mixes for different outputs in this card? Inside a DAW or something else? I need it for performances. So that the DAW tracks I have defined go to the "Digital Audio Console" in one input, and other tracks in another.

[@EdThorne]

You can assign tracks to different outputs in your DAW and mix the levels in your DAW but it doesn’t have a monitor output control software like the Audient iD series does.

[@saqin-sunpole0o0o0opdok2]

@@EdThorne ty I look!ty

[@WorshipWithMatt]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAT!? Awesome video dude!! I just got the 276 a few weeks ago and it has been killer!!! Gonna have to see if I can try this out and upgrade? 👀

[@EdThorne]

Thanks, Matthew. Maybe the shop will let you return and swap?

[@WorshipWithMatt]

@@EdThorne I hope so 😂 thanks for making such great content! Keep up the great work!

[@EdThorne]

@@WorshipWithMatt Thanks for the support 🙂