This is what KZbin is about - sharing knowledge and helping others - thank you sir.
@baladar13533 ай бұрын
I'm sorry (man, I really do) that I'm not totally agreeing with you, but this is what yt SHOULD be about. It became a portal for promoting stupidity now around the whole planet. Ads over ads, sometimes yootoob even threatens users for not watching the crappy commercials they are forcing on us. I'm not complaining more, thumbs up on your comment.
@briandeschene84243 ай бұрын
I successfully used graphite sold to lubricate key locks and followed your video. Winner, winner!
@Anon543873 ай бұрын
I think that's the stuff he used as well given that there is an image of a key on the container.
@VegasGuy891834 ай бұрын
I watched your video maybe a week ago. Just this morning, I finally got around to doing this to two Logitech Harmony 650 Remotes. I already had graphite power and a q-tip on hand, so why not? Both remotes had keys that were flaky or wouldn't work at all. Your solution was easy to do. Now my remotes are working like they are factory fresh. Kudos on a great video! Thank you, thank you, thank you!
@gavinmathew74913 ай бұрын
I wish I could keep my workbench as tidy as yours. Thanks for the tip. Well done and a good presentation.
@wrekced4 ай бұрын
There is a commercial solution for this problem. I have no idea where I bought it: Its called "KeyPad-Fix". It is basically a flexible, conductive paint that is formulated to stick to the pads of a membrane keypad. Your idea is a much easier to get solution, everyone has pencils, but the stuff I have makes a much longer lasting repair. Thanks for making this video! Sometimes, the easy fix is all that is needed. I have vintage electronic devices with that type of keypad, but most people don't need that level of repair for their devices.
@JustInspiredKent4 ай бұрын
I use the same stuff. Can confirm it works well!
@man_eating_monkey4 ай бұрын
There is a product called Wire Glue from Jaycar that appears to be the same stuff
@tvpredicta87564 ай бұрын
Speedy Spares (Vic) used to have a solution as well. Sadly they’re gone now. I did wonder if graphite would last as long as a commercial solution.
@MSM55004 ай бұрын
_"There is a commercial solution for this problem"_ I've got that _"commercial solution Made in the USA"_ by my side and I gotta say it's quite mediocre solution that in some cases *won't work at all.* I have a Casio Privia PX-3 digital piano in which a keyboard is made of 4 contact pad PCBA segments one of which started catastrophically failing at some stage due to probably some malfunction occurred during contact pad manufacturing process. In other words multiple cracks started appearing all over the contact array making the electrical circuit unable to be closed. I applied the commercial solution from the above and it last just a few minutes as it's basically just a paint that eventually will crack and fall off due to mechanical stress applied. So I just replaced the faulty PCBA segment with a brand new one like 7 years ago and so far so good. So the commercial solution is rather a cowboy method than a proper approach to repair.
@wrekced3 ай бұрын
@@MSM5500 thanks for telling us about this. I have never had the problem with cracked pads, so all the repairs I have done have worked pretty well. I did clean the pads with IP alcohol first. A couple times, when the pad loked very smooth, I used a little 200 grit sandpaper to prep the surface of the pad before applying the paint. I think that how well the repair paint sticks to the pad may have something to do with the composition of the pad. Different formulations may be easier for the paint to adhere to. That and surface preparation may account for the paint peeling off. In the end, though the paint is not 100% effective, it provides a good enough solution to fix many devices.
@DoubleHaulCharters4 ай бұрын
I just tried this and it works great. I sanded a #2 pencil on sandpaper and applied it with a Q-tip. 👍
@Grump-wm1tp4 ай бұрын
The work space! - priceless! Just like mine, a complete mess - the comment about putting the screws somewhere safe - yep, just plonk them right in the middle of the mess - had me in stiches! It even has my good pair of spectacles dumped in the middle of things that I replace with magnifying reading glasses when I'm doing electronics LOL! BUT - the theme of the video is excellent. My story, just a week before I saw this video - my wife dropped the remote in the dog's water bowl (yeah, I know, don't ask). I didn't know that had happened until I see a large plastic container on the kitchen bench full of rice.....I ask "what's with the rice?" and she says "it's sucking up all the water out of the remote - according KZbin this is the best way to do it". I laughed, dug up the remote, which was now also filled with some grains of rice (yes, she thoughtfully took the batteries out but didn't replace the cover), and then pulled it apart and proceeded to empty all the water (and rice grains) out and dry it. What amazed me was the amount of crap (I guess food crumbs, and a few dog hairs and tiny bits of fluff) in under and around the buttons, including some metal ones stuck on to the usual rubbery membrane. I used an old toothbrush and cleaned all the buttons and surfaces - I didn't know about the graphite tip - THANKS! - and dried all the bits out thoroughly. I put it back to together and gave it back to my wife...... an hour later she said "what did you do to the remote? it's working brilliantly now, and all the buttons are working!" LOL. So yeah, I can totally recommend giving any remote a good clean if there are "performance issues", particularly if it doesn't work underwater or in a grain silo LOL. The graphite tip is super useful.
@pescado994 ай бұрын
I'm loving this gentle pocking! OK, that's it, I'm cleaning my work bench.... just as soon as the next project is done (Sony amp repair, Nakamichi tape deck, Yamaha subwoofer. phew....) ;-O
@Grump-wm1tp4 ай бұрын
@@pescado99 LOL! from the other comments, I see we are all in good company!
@BTW...3 ай бұрын
@@pescado99 I'd hate to eat from your kitchen if it's the same as your workspace. Easy to fix it. Learn to... CLEAN AS YOU GO.
@BTW...3 ай бұрын
Ewww.. includes filthy dog or cat hair. Chances are you eat a kg of that stuff per year.
@PaulG.x4 ай бұрын
Electronics technician with 48 years in the industry here. The common cause of the buttons losing sensitivity is that the silicone absorbs skin oils and these oils act as insulation on the pads and tracks. If you look at the tracks under the pads that are least sensitive , you will see the oily residue. You can clean the tracks and pads with alcohol for a short term fix but the pads will exude more of the oil that is within the silicone. A longer term fix is to soak the whole key pad sheet in Fuelite (Petroleum Spirit) Fuelite is the main ingredient in CRC Contact Cleaner (in fact it is the only ingredient). Use liquid Fuelite to do this , not Contact Cleaner because you have to immerse the silicone sheet. Soak the sheet for 5 minutes , it will swell a little , let it dry thoroughly and it will return to normal dimension. While the silicone has still some absorbed Fuelite in it , it will be easily torn so treat it carefully. Then reassemble the device. This fix should last several months depending on the state of the silicone sheet
@Blu3ManiC4 ай бұрын
All you have to do is run the carbon part along a sheet of clean white A4 paper. Same thing. The A4 will absorb the oil and clean the carbon at the same time.
@stts7624 ай бұрын
I agree the problem is the oil that comes off the button but I doubt it comes from the oil in the skin It's just part of the membrane and the oil just oozes out after time and pressing The question is how do you stop the oil from coming out So far I have not seen anyone that has an answer to this All of these fixes are temporary The main thing is that is difficult to clean well the membrane and the contact I tried alcohol which seems to clean it but after it dries the pads still feel sticky so I have to clean it a few more times same thing with the membrane it feels a little oil still coming out after it is cleaned with alcohol So I bought a roll of aluminum foil with adhesive on one side and just cut small pieces and place them over the membranes That will last as long as any other method I have seen maybe a couple of years or until the membrane gets so oily that the foil falls off so than I just try to clean it and place a new foil and works again I was thinking of using conductive silver paint I am just not sure how long it will last as the oil under it I imagine it would make the paint not stick after a while
@PaulG.x4 ай бұрын
@@stts762 The oil is only present on the buttons that are pressed and the more a button is used the more oily it gets. If it was just coming from the material , it would be present on all buttons. Aside from that , oil is not used in silicones
@stts7624 ай бұрын
@@PaulG.x I understand your logic but I doubt it comes from the oil from the skin I seriously doubt that oil passes through silicone otherwise there would be oil all around not just on the black rubbery part I think the rubber just disintegrates over time and repeated pressing If it was just oil from the skin it would be easy to clean up with soap and water This is more like a gummy sticky residue that is hard to clean even with alcohol
@Fomites4 ай бұрын
Thanks. Very interesting. 😊
@deonmo19634 ай бұрын
I shall keep this video to show my family that there is a workbench worse than mine..
@FutureSystem7384 ай бұрын
Same here. Well maybe just similar to mine 😅
@558vulcanxh4 ай бұрын
No, mines the same too 😊
@wm.traynor11433 ай бұрын
And mine
@normaalkanaal3 ай бұрын
lol! Same
@janinapalmer83683 ай бұрын
Hahaha .... you should see mine 🥹😂😂
@yevgenylebedev99273 ай бұрын
Recently revived a Siemens DEST phone. It had the same problem. There is a graphite-based glue for repairing the rear window heating of a car. I used it. Silver glue was also on sale, but it was much more expensive... The result is excellent... Greetings from Russia.
@CorvusNumber62 ай бұрын
Bought some graphite from Amazon - Worked absolutely brilliantly! The TV remote is as good as brand new! Many thanks for uploading this tip. 👍🏻😁👍🏻
@cmdrbravo2zero7263 ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant showing you how to re-carbon a remote control for any user that is suffering with flakey operation.
@7rorre3 ай бұрын
I've had problems with the keypads on my domestic alarm system for a couple of years. I was unable to source a direct replacement at any price but after coming across your video, and already having some graphite powder that I use for lubrication door locks, I followed your advice this morning. Keypads work like new again. Thank you so much.
@southpark55552 ай бұрын
Usually - eventually after enough pushing, the graphite power leaves a graphite imprint on the contacts side of the board, which can lead to short circuit and intermittent auto-button activation issues. There is something called graphit 33 which has worked best for me for longer term - without the imprint issue.
@woofowl24083 ай бұрын
Just tried this on a Sony TV remote and....wow! What a difference, before some keys barely worked, now the responsiveness is better than it has ever been. I have control of all things from my armchair again, the power is intoxicating.
@BobBasshead3 ай бұрын
For crying out loud CLEAN OFF YOUR WORKBENCH! Thanks for the great tip!
@franceslarina55083 ай бұрын
Bah - plenty of room for this project!
@mahavpm3 ай бұрын
If you want something done, ask a busy man!
@nolaspeaker56563 ай бұрын
😂
@TheGorf3 ай бұрын
Clean workbenches are the sign of a broken brain. 😂
@Colorado_Native2 ай бұрын
I would be trying to figure a way to put all those 'parts' together to make a working remote. Bonus: Clean work bench.
@MisterWG2 ай бұрын
I also used to seal my remotes in plastic bags, especially useful when using with small children, teenagers and similar!
@hnag19074 ай бұрын
I wished I came across your video earlier. I cut out the faulty button from the pad and replaced it with an unused button. Working very well!
@pescado994 ай бұрын
Wow, unconventional! Hope it lasts.
@shockingguy3 ай бұрын
OK, that’s thinking yeah
@fiddley3 ай бұрын
I always cut tiny squares of aluminum foil, glued them to the pads and that really seems to last. It's very fiddly tho and your method seems way more convenient. I'll be giving it a shot next time.
@aplaceoncebelonged3 ай бұрын
Worked wonders on my old key fob. Thank you! It was driving me crazy not being able to use it. Worst part is unlocking the car manually with the key has a 50/50 chance of setting the car alarm off for some reason.
@paulerickson1906Ай бұрын
I always wondered how those remotes worked inside? Amazingly easy to rejuvenate too. Maybe I'll try it. Thank you.
@pescado99Ай бұрын
95% of remotes are exactly like this. The other 5% use pressure sprung buttons (like newer TCL TV's etc) - like ancient Atari 2600 controller pad buttons from the 1970's.
@paulerickson1906Ай бұрын
@@pescado99 With time these type of contacts they will eventually need this servicing periodically it seems. I thought about how it could be made a more permanent contact surface and probably the only material that wouldn't wear off and give long service would be gold as any other material would tarnish with time. This would also make them very expensive. Hmm. The things you learn about in life. Very interesting. Thanks again.
@tomsmith30453 ай бұрын
Really great tip! I would have guessed that the graphite powder would fly around inside and contaminate everything. But it looks like it doesn't at all, it just sticks where it's supposed to. Betting it's because of the application method with the q-tip. Thanks for this!!
@southpark55552 ай бұрын
It will. Eventually - it leaves an imprint on the contact side - after enough button pressing, and automatic short circuits can occur. graphit 33 works better.
@majinkakashi204 ай бұрын
Wow man, thank you so much...seriously, i had no idea how to fix a remote like that. I tried cleaning with ipa and didn't know what to think or why it still wasn't working. You are awesome dude. Thanks
@00bikeboy3 ай бұрын
I was inspired by your fix-it and went out to my local art supply shop and bought the softest graphite pencil I could find (I think 9B is the softest, but I could only find 8B). Worked like a charm! Thanks so much for taking the time to do this 🖖
@channelsixtyseven0674 ай бұрын
What a great idea, Mate. I've cleaned numerous remotes in the past and still they didn't work, due to being badly worn. This will extend the life of them. Cheers.
@clarencefoster76893 ай бұрын
@@channelsixtyseven067 if the remote was cleaned sooner the contact would not need refurbishing usually cleaning the sticky stuff of the contacts would bring it to life . Some people start tapping the remote and that will crack the circuitry some times fine wire and solder brings back life. Have cleaned 100s of them with soap and water and tuner cleaner
@channelsixtyseven0673 ай бұрын
@@clarencefoster7689 One of my own remotes was just plain worn out, a cheap generic remote that came with a Yamaha table-top hifi system. It was always kept clean, but constant use just wore away the contact pads. I got a replacement .... ridiculously expensive, though. I've kept the old one, so I've got to try refurbishing it. Yes, I've used the same cleaning methods you have, but sometimes, they are too far gone.
@ClarenceFoster-h7n3 ай бұрын
clean them sooner and never use anything but a soft brush
@channelsixtyseven0673 ай бұрын
@@ClarenceFoster-h7n That depends on other people giving me their remotes. I keep my own remotes clean, not allowing food or drink anywhere near them with cling wrap and handle them with clean hands, Prevention is better than cure.
@Fomites4 ай бұрын
Great video - thanks! I keep a small container of graphite around for lubricating locks - its cheap and lasts for ages if anyone was wondering. All hardware stores have it or buy it online.
@ericy45223 ай бұрын
Great video. A supplementary note - pencil graphite is a mixture of clay & carbon. The softer the pencil grade, the more carbon, but none are pure carbon.
@FentronixElectronics-ul9kqАй бұрын
Good idea. The more items saved from the tip the better.
@JulleNick6917 күн бұрын
Worked perfectly! Thanks 😃
@lloydprunier44154 ай бұрын
Thank you I'll give this a try. I have a couple of remotes that are needing this.
@rasonline2 күн бұрын
I just used tin foil and glued it to the faulty buttons. Worked like a charm
@solarlaura33553 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. I have some controls that are flaky. Your workbench looks like mine. Brilliant.
@neofloripa4 ай бұрын
When I noticed that the problem was on the rubber I just used what have in hands, aluminum tape, small pieces cut with scissor and placed in every button, never got problems again.
@jagmarc4 ай бұрын
For the last few years too I've been using dots of kitchen foil and so far never needed redoing.
@pescado994 ай бұрын
@@jagmarc I've tried foil, but on the tiny tiny buttons it's too difficult to apply. Also a bit tedious if I'm honest.
@jagmarc4 ай бұрын
@@pescado99 You're right on there, very fiddly to apply. There's also the trick of rub a 6B lead directly on pad
@jagmarc4 ай бұрын
@@pescado99 I posted a reply earlier today but I've just now noticed has been CENSORED , no longer here. I'm not reposting censored text.
@theDane704 ай бұрын
I did the same and worked out great !!
@biggles56333 ай бұрын
Thanks very much indeed. My home safe key buttons were not working and I was going to replace the safe. Now works perfectly! cheers.
@David-d9k2p3 ай бұрын
Brilliant! Agree about Denon as well.
@robertbaynham69092 ай бұрын
Cheers for the this technique I'll give it a go on my TV remote which has a slow to react main control button. Bonus I already have graphite powder 4 lubricating locks.
@ludrock24 ай бұрын
Thankyou for this video. I've cleaned a few remotes in the past, but never knew about the carbon contacts. Great stuff!
@snakezdewiggle60843 ай бұрын
Good enough for Australia.! I went with the DIY Arrduino Lerning Remote. OLED touch screen.
@schwarzerritter57243 ай бұрын
Great method. I used to glue aluminum foil on.
@mitchelllangs693 ай бұрын
might last longer than some powder
@MichaelJ0234 ай бұрын
For a long lasting solution I suggest Ted Pella 16056 Carbon Conductive Paint, DAG-T-502 available in 30g bottle. I’m not sure about the availability of smaller quantities. It’s used for electron microscopy to prevent charging in samples by being extremely conductive. It soaks into the carbon disks and dries quickly. I still let it dry overnight for best results. I’ve used this on several synthesizer keyboards and remotes. It does not flake off.
@pescado994 ай бұрын
Excellent - I've not heard of this (despite a rigorous search some time ago). Thanks
@dreddwailing55053 ай бұрын
Try searching for aquaDAG or similar products
@capiberra41183 ай бұрын
Great info, thanks. I have a kitchen scale that will be undergoing this treatment asap. Cheers!
@sirtango14 ай бұрын
You can find graphite at the lock and key department in most hardware stores. They sell small tubes to lubricate the pin tumblers in locks.
@dubiousName3 ай бұрын
Tried it, LOVE it. Works great, thanks for the video 👍😀
@njlooksee3 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot. I’ve always cleaned the remote, but that stoped working. The graphite works great. I don’t know what to say, just thanks.
@johnnyshinnichi17854 ай бұрын
Damn, I wish I'd seen this three hours ago. I've just taken a remote apart to clean it and it could have done with this doing. Great video thanks!
@nialled3 ай бұрын
Very helpful video. I am going to try it on a couple of remotes that have dodgy keys. Thank you
@LFOVCF4 ай бұрын
Always clean the board. The buttons give off a residue like grease. You can literally wash the button membrane in warm water and dish soap but rinse thoroughly and dry with a hairdryer for speed. Do the board with switch cleaner or neat alcohol, just not anything that leaves anything behind. I've repaired hundreds and I don't dawb graphite on the pips, as I call them. problem pips can be roughed up with very fine sandpaper. A little brush over a few times will get to fresh carbon.
@BlankBrain3 ай бұрын
Thanks, I'll give it a try. I used silver-impregnated paint that was designed to repair remote buttons. It eventually got hard and cracked off. Use paraffin wax (not kerosene) on wood drawer slides. Silicone spray works better for drawer slides because it doesn't wind up with the contents of the drawer (or if it does, it doesn't show). Silicone spray also does wonders for aluminum sliding window tracks. Pencil lead usually contains clay. Use the graphite from the bottles or tubes unless it's an emergency,
@louf71784 ай бұрын
Great idea. Swipe the pad with slight conductive paste so the graphite sticks. Too goopy will not leave a gap.
@nedstar73783 ай бұрын
Very nice video and useful video, thanks for sharing. Finally my tv remote control will come a life again.
@tomp5383 ай бұрын
I bought a kit for this type of repair. It worked right after applying the magic carbon solution. But the repair did not last... This tip is worth the try as I have carbon and cotton swabs in stock.
@lagunafishing3 ай бұрын
Excellent, straight to the point and no faffing about! Oh and I learned something too so thanks and well done. My problem is a little bit more tricky however.... sticky keyboard buttons from a spill on a Dell laptop which is impossible to remove or get into lol
@pescado993 ай бұрын
@lagunafishing pull it apart and wash out with warm soapy water, then dry it out in the sun before reassembly.
@lagunafishing3 ай бұрын
@@pescado99 it has a built in keyboard, just buttons. Impossible to remove
@onmyworkbench70003 ай бұрын
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. I have a box full of old remote controls that I will be doing this to. By the way your workbench looks just like mine!!! All covered up with crap from the last 6 projects that you worked on.
@mercuriall28104 ай бұрын
Great tip for fixing remote controls, it will be interesting to see how long it lasts, and whether graphite transfer can lead to shorting the button contacts or other components over time. I will try it myself, there’s little to lose when the remote isn’t working anymore. I wouldn’t recommend harvesting graphite from a 2B pencil. Pencils contain graphite bound together with clay, the more clay, the harder the pencil. So a 2H has more clay than HB, which has more than a 2B etc. Even a very soft 6B pencil contains a significant amount of clay. 2B pencils may contain enough graphite to be conductive, but you’re far better off using pure graphite. Using pencils as a graphite source in many other contexts (such as lubricating locks/keys) is not recommended, because the clay acts as an abrasive over time.
@majinkakashi204 ай бұрын
Wow, i never knew that, but it makes perfect sense as to what could possibly be able to hold soft graphite together and is able to make it so useful, because when you think about it, surely pure harvested graphite alone would never hold its shape well enough to be made into a pencil, let alone, hold its shape while enough force is used to actually use it as a writing implement. thank you very much for sharing this important information. Hmm... i wonder if thats why theyre called lead...the combination of graphite and clay...i mean...certainly it doesn't actually contain lead right?. Probably a dumb thing to ponder. Lol
@mercuriall28104 ай бұрын
@@majinkakashi20 There is no lead in ‘lead’ pencils and there never has been. When mineral deposits of graphite were first found, in the 1500s, it was thought to be a form of lead, and it was quickly recognised that it was useful for making marks/writing. The mineral was called plumbago, from the Latin for lead, plumbum. It was later discovered that the mineral plumbago was a form of carbon, graphite, but writing the name ‘lead’ stuck for the graphite writing stylus and later the pencil.
@jagmarc4 ай бұрын
Now that's an idea.... rub a piece of soft pure lead Pb on the pad directly to transfer the metal. In the past I have had success doing this with a very soft pencil but real lead I never thought of before.
@Yukanhayt-Mhenow3 ай бұрын
I've done this for years, used to make money as a kid fixing peoples remotes! People thought I was a genius!
@Ni5ei4 ай бұрын
You can buy little conductive stickers that are made for this. They probably hold out longer than putting loose graphite onto the rubber pads.
@ewanuno4 ай бұрын
Yep, these are the best solution. Graphite power is only temporary and the various conductive glues don't adhere well.
@FromSagansStardust3 ай бұрын
Yes! And I'm surprised nobody else here knows about this. I have tried all the other methods and they either don't work or don't last! These pads always work and I've not had one fail yet, and it's a neat clean easy job as well!
@nigelcarren3 ай бұрын
As a very wealthy man once told me, "If a man washes his car in the week there is something wrong with his business, and if he washes his car at the week-end there is something wrong with his marriage!" (I am sure work-benches can also be included here) Thank you and respect to you. 😉👍🇬🇧
@szghasem3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. Never knew it was this simple. Wish I knew this 30 years ago
@UserBig14 ай бұрын
Great my power button on my 26 years old remote works again, Thanks
@trebel3 ай бұрын
Thank you for all your hard work. Thank you kindly. Good tutorial. Cheers m8.
@Murray-e4f3 ай бұрын
Thanks MATE my remote is on the O.R. table tomorrow to many brews tonight to be putting a scalpel in my hand ................ cheers 🍻🍺
@andrewkay92264 ай бұрын
Great video! Well spoken, clearly presented & very useful!! Thanks
@pescado994 ай бұрын
You're very welcome!
@AndrevwZA3 ай бұрын
Great tip. You do get a product called Liquid Graphite from Kuretake. You can paint it on and it will stick better.
@begonnne3 ай бұрын
Well explained. Even I could understand it. Thanks.
@northotagogolf4 ай бұрын
That's a neat method alright. I've cleaned mine in the past with IPA with reasonable effectiveness. I have a bottle of that graphite so will try that. I use my remotes in a polythene "jacket" - moisture seems to get in them otherwise. Cheers!
@davidbarmann3 ай бұрын
I’ve had success with rear window defrost repair “paint”. It’s conductive and also works. I suspect your method is cheaper and probably just as effective.
@frantiumАй бұрын
There's a conductive paint out there that works nicely with remotes, usually of the carbon/graphite or silver (more expensive) kind. OR, since I already have it in big rolls for shielding electric guitar cavities, use copper conductive tape cut to size.
@NeathVideos3 ай бұрын
I use conductive paint, which is used to repair broken tracks in circuit boards etc
@terencemcculloch32944 ай бұрын
I've had good success with "B6" pencil graphite.
@RogerTannous4 ай бұрын
I used to clean with isopropyl alcohol then use a B-rated pencil to fix the bad ones, but it didn't use to last long. Finally, I managed to fix them by creating membranes using aluminium foil paper, regular paper sheets and capton tape just to avoid having them moving while reassembling the remote control. It's a tedious work, but it lasts for years.
@pescado994 ай бұрын
Good stuff. So far I'm really pleased with my method, but I'll be interested to know how long it lasts!
@BassetsElectronicsOddments6 күн бұрын
I've revitalised tens if not hundreds of remote controls and similar push button devices over the years and I've never done what you have - in my experience it's unnecessary, as the problem is caused by grease and dirt on both the contact pads on the button, and the pcb. I wash the buttons with dish soap, rinse with distilled water then dry thoroughly - the pcb I clean with isopropyl alcohol. Never failed to work yet...
@pescado995 күн бұрын
@@BassetsElectronicsOddments 99% agree with you. You note I also use IPA. The carbon (graphite) works for pads that lose that conduction.
@tonyb833 ай бұрын
Really useful tip, thanks
@dank92963 ай бұрын
Great tip. Thank You!!👍😎
@nicktecky553 ай бұрын
Mmmmm, maybe. I have a Sky remote, and of course I don't have a bottle of graphite lying around, but your analysis that it is the loss of conductivity that needs fixing sent me back to the remote with a pencil in hand. After a while, I did see some shininess, and the 'Select' button started working cleanly again. I carried on for a bit, and wiped the whole lot over with Isopropanol. All the shininess disappeared, but the button still worked. What I noticed was the the effect of rubbing the surface with the pencil was to remove the imprint of the circuit board from the underside of the buttons. (The pad on the PCB has etched lines under each button, that pattern was being transferred to the underside of the buttons) What I have concluded was happening was that it was the mechanical rubbing that had removed persistent waxes and grease that built up from human skin oil degrading, present of course because of the constant handling over many years. The graphite pencil was important because I had confidence that the graphite would cause no mechanical damage and so applied enough work to the task. Although I used the alcohol, it was the mechanical action of the kitchen towel used to wipe down that gave the cleaning effect. Anyway, no contradiction implied, this is what worked for me under your inspiration.
@W4BIN4 ай бұрын
Pencils contain graphite and clay, the harder the "lead" the more clay. The lock lubricant contains no clay. Ron W4BIN
@pescado994 ай бұрын
Hence the recommendation to use pure graphite or the highest B rated pencil you can find...
@vasiliynkudryavtsev3 ай бұрын
The core of the pencil is graphite mixed with paraffin. You can burn off this wax and the residue should be of pure graphite and carbon. Never heard of clay used in pencils, well the world is vast.
@vsvnrg32633 ай бұрын
@@vasiliynkudryavtsev , both are in all 'lead' pencils to various degrees.
@charlesbartholomew29103 ай бұрын
Genius! Thank you for sharing.
@stevencooper24644 ай бұрын
I always found that just wiping off the oxidation on the buttons was enough to get them working again; never thought about applying graphite to them.
@KunalVaidya3 ай бұрын
2B pencil will have some clay mixed in for making the pencil usable on paper , graphite powder ofcourse would be the best. I've found 12B pencil as max B value , I shall try this technique and fix all old remotes :)
@danblankenship57443 ай бұрын
Many times old spilled soda and snack cracker dust have done damage to board and flexible button contacts. The more you scrub the worse they become. I have repaired dozens using silicone (RTV) and the aluminum wrapper from a pack of cigarettes. Cut small circles (hole punch helps) in the metal coated paper. Attach them with a dab of glue to the weak buttons. Allow ample time for the glue to set and you will have a permanent repair.
@johnfitzpatrick24694 ай бұрын
Clever stuff, great for the hotel industry. 🌏🇦🇺
@pescado994 ай бұрын
@johnfitzpatrick2469 hotel remotes... I wonder how many people get really sick from those filthy pestilence sticks!
@johnmanderson20603 ай бұрын
Thanks for this awesome fix 👍🏻
@roym827-v2l3 ай бұрын
Brilliant! After watching this, I tried it for myself. I didn't have any pure graphite so I scraped some off a pencil and used that. Remote is as good as new now! Many thanks.
@mattsan704 ай бұрын
how long will it last though. Few weeks back to square one
@pescado994 ай бұрын
Let's see. It's my own 20 year old home theatre amp remote (Denon AVR2805), so I use it all the time and have a good sense of button 'action'.
@theelmonk4 ай бұрын
I'm wondering if the loose graphite will stay stuck to the pad or transfer to the pcb and make a permanent connection. Very interested to see how it ages as I tried something similar and messed it up. Thanks for the demonstration.
@zepeuf3 ай бұрын
No glue or anything like that to fix the carbon? How often do you have to do that ?
@pescado993 ай бұрын
@@zepeuf hopefully just once.
@pescado993 ай бұрын
@@zepeuf hopefully just once.
@leighmurrell54943 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info.
@mrmanch2043 ай бұрын
Helpful, thank you.
@deucedeuce15723 ай бұрын
I've tried other methods that worked well too. I wish I knew you could use pencils and graphite. I forgot graphite was conductive, even though I'm sure we've all seen the videos where they cook graphite rods/pencils with electricity... and in many cases they use graphite anodes/cathodes for anodizing, electroplating and electrolysis (and countless other things). I've used metal foils that worked great and have also had success with metal plating/depositing. Also, the electrically conductive gel works well too. This is probably the easiest method I've seen though (next to the conductive gel that pretty much goes on the same). I wish I had several remotes that I could do tests on, repairing each one with a different method and then testing them long term to see which method works the best and lasts the longest. I barely ever use any remotes these days though and the few I have work just fine at the moment.
@pescado993 ай бұрын
Yes, I've tried the foil and glue, but found this method (particularly with pure graphite) works the best (better than pencil dust). The intent was the share a method that was easy to use, long lasting, and cheap.
@deucedeuce15723 ай бұрын
@@pescado99 Well, you succeeded.
@southpark55552 ай бұрын
heheh - I recognise the jaycar mini screwdriver kit. The thing to look out for with the carbon powder and graphite pencil thing is that the graphite can eventually leave an imprint of graphite across the 'circuit' part of the board, and then end up with intermittent button auto-activation issues due to the 'short' that can occur. The only thing that has worked on a better long term basis for me is graphit 33. Relatively expensive - but has worked best for me on a long term basis - without the short circuit issue that people know about when using graphite that is not properly bonded to the rubber pad.
@pescado992 ай бұрын
Good tip, thanks. I'm definately chasing a long-term solution.
@pescado992 ай бұрын
If this happens (intermittent button auto-activation issues due to the 'short' that can occur), clean the cct board with IPA to clean off the excess carbon.
@MicraHakkinen4 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you very much!
@45rpm.3 ай бұрын
Does the graphite powder stick on to the old glue that was there or does it just sit on the surface? If it is not glued, wouldn't it rub off quickly during use? Would conductive paint be more hardwearing or would that cause too much inconsistency in the surfaces? Too many questions I know :/
@Animal_lives_matter3 ай бұрын
yes it does rub off and thats why you can only use a very small tiny amount of it and it must be crushed into a paste otherwise the powder flecks will rub off and short things. i would recommend using conductive paint instead.
@aguiremedia3 ай бұрын
Beautiful. Thanks for sharing
@mikehibbett33014 ай бұрын
Brilliant advice, thanks!
@leighmurrell54943 ай бұрын
Will this work with the keypad on a cordless landline phone ?
@pescado993 ай бұрын
@@leighmurrell5494 depends on the buttons. If they are spring tactile, then no, but if they are rubber with conductive contacts to a circuit board (like 99% of remotes), then yes.
@jpedrick15713 ай бұрын
Genuine "India Ink" works great for this and is a lot easier. You can test the ink by putting a drop on a piece of paper and letting it dry. Then check it for conductivity with a DVM. Buy it at an art supply store.
@cat22_a13 ай бұрын
Question: Do you use the Q-tip dry to pick up the graphite powder?
@scottcarson30043 ай бұрын
If you happen to know a piano technician, I'm guessing that action burnishing fluid would be a good option. It's basically a black carbon suspension which is brushed onto felt to wood contact points within the piano action, left a few moments to dry, then burnished up. Not much cost for a small bottle that lasts forever, in the UK it's called Winslip.
@mikeslater62463 ай бұрын
I've had good luck cleaning those contacts on the buttons and on the circuit board using a pencil eraser.
@vsvnrg32633 ай бұрын
google must have been watching me pushing hard on the tv remote. thank you google. just this once.
@Tiki_Media3 ай бұрын
I have had success with cleaning the carbon contacts with a white nylon eraser. It seems to remove any non conductive buildup and restores the contact to its previous conductivity. Give it a try if you don’t want to mess with graphite powder.
@pescado993 ай бұрын
That's been mentioned in the comments. It's an OK solution, but it only cleans doesn't the PC board, but doesn't restore conductivity to the contact pads.
@Tiki_Media3 ай бұрын
@@pescado99 yeah, it works well!
@NicB-Creations3 ай бұрын
You can get graphite spays like "Graphit 33" which is graphite suspended in lacquer which is what I use for this sort of thing. Just spray some in a plastic container en dab it on with a cotton swab. It is quite expensive though.
@pescado993 ай бұрын
@NicB-Creations agree, this was meant to show a budget DIY fix.
@unquiche4 ай бұрын
I used to use the pencil method to get graphite on the contacts, but that eventually flakes off and gets in the way of things, making it work worse and need another cleaning. The last time I skipped the pencil dust and used 99% isopropyl to scrub each contact. That worked better than any prior fix. I suspect it was removing non-conductive surface contaminants that had collected on them. Electronics circuit cleaning spray might do the same.
@BrickmanZero4 ай бұрын
What kind of pencil did you use? Like H, HB or a high B?
@unquiche4 ай бұрын
@@BrickmanZero Most likely #2 (=HB) as it’s the most common in my region. Still, the good results I got with a complete lack of added graphite after the 99% isopropyl cleaning is impossible to argue with - the conductive pads probably accumulate a film over time that makes them less conductive, and the strong alcohol removed that, restoring the conductive surface
@BrickmanZero4 ай бұрын
@@unquiche I see, I asked cuz I cleaned my house tv remote with isopropyl alcohol multiple times and it made a lot of difference for all buttons but the power on, so I'm still going to test the graphite or the aluminum foil this weekend
@unquiche4 ай бұрын
@@BrickmanZero I always clean the metal contact points on the board side, too, because they can also get a film or solid contaminant (like dried cola lol) on them, which would also break the functionality. I might also try electronics circuit cleaner spray next time I have a bad remote, just to see if it’s better or worse than the 99% isopropyl.