Re-carbon your Remote Control - the ultimate rejuvenation method for any remote control

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pescado99

pescado99

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@keithmoule4154
@keithmoule4154 3 ай бұрын
This is what KZbin is about - sharing knowledge and helping others - thank you sir.
@baladar1353
@baladar1353 3 ай бұрын
I'm sorry (man, I really do) that I'm not totally agreeing with you, but this is what yt SHOULD be about. It became a portal for promoting stupidity now around the whole planet. Ads over ads, sometimes yootoob even threatens users for not watching the crappy commercials they are forcing on us. I'm not complaining more, thumbs up on your comment.
@briandeschene8424
@briandeschene8424 3 ай бұрын
I successfully used graphite sold to lubricate key locks and followed your video. Winner, winner!
@Anon54387
@Anon54387 3 ай бұрын
I think that's the stuff he used as well given that there is an image of a key on the container.
@VegasGuy89183
@VegasGuy89183 4 ай бұрын
I watched your video maybe a week ago. Just this morning, I finally got around to doing this to two Logitech Harmony 650 Remotes. I already had graphite power and a q-tip on hand, so why not? Both remotes had keys that were flaky or wouldn't work at all. Your solution was easy to do. Now my remotes are working like they are factory fresh. Kudos on a great video! Thank you, thank you, thank you!
@gavinmathew7491
@gavinmathew7491 3 ай бұрын
I wish I could keep my workbench as tidy as yours. Thanks for the tip. Well done and a good presentation.
@wrekced
@wrekced 4 ай бұрын
There is a commercial solution for this problem. I have no idea where I bought it: Its called "KeyPad-Fix". It is basically a flexible, conductive paint that is formulated to stick to the pads of a membrane keypad. Your idea is a much easier to get solution, everyone has pencils, but the stuff I have makes a much longer lasting repair. Thanks for making this video! Sometimes, the easy fix is all that is needed. I have vintage electronic devices with that type of keypad, but most people don't need that level of repair for their devices.
@JustInspiredKent
@JustInspiredKent 4 ай бұрын
I use the same stuff. Can confirm it works well!
@man_eating_monkey
@man_eating_monkey 4 ай бұрын
There is a product called Wire Glue from Jaycar that appears to be the same stuff
@tvpredicta8756
@tvpredicta8756 4 ай бұрын
Speedy Spares (Vic) used to have a solution as well. Sadly they’re gone now. I did wonder if graphite would last as long as a commercial solution.
@MSM5500
@MSM5500 4 ай бұрын
_"There is a commercial solution for this problem"_ I've got that _"commercial solution Made in the USA"_ by my side and I gotta say it's quite mediocre solution that in some cases *won't work at all.* I have a Casio Privia PX-3 digital piano in which a keyboard is made of 4 contact pad PCBA segments one of which started catastrophically failing at some stage due to probably some malfunction occurred during contact pad manufacturing process. In other words multiple cracks started appearing all over the contact array making the electrical circuit unable to be closed. I applied the commercial solution from the above and it last just a few minutes as it's basically just a paint that eventually will crack and fall off due to mechanical stress applied. So I just replaced the faulty PCBA segment with a brand new one like 7 years ago and so far so good. So the commercial solution is rather a cowboy method than a proper approach to repair.
@wrekced
@wrekced 3 ай бұрын
@@MSM5500 thanks for telling us about this. I have never had the problem with cracked pads, so all the repairs I have done have worked pretty well. I did clean the pads with IP alcohol first. A couple times, when the pad loked very smooth, I used a little 200 grit sandpaper to prep the surface of the pad before applying the paint. I think that how well the repair paint sticks to the pad may have something to do with the composition of the pad. Different formulations may be easier for the paint to adhere to. That and surface preparation may account for the paint peeling off. In the end, though the paint is not 100% effective, it provides a good enough solution to fix many devices.
@DoubleHaulCharters
@DoubleHaulCharters 4 ай бұрын
I just tried this and it works great. I sanded a #2 pencil on sandpaper and applied it with a Q-tip. 👍
@Grump-wm1tp
@Grump-wm1tp 4 ай бұрын
The work space! - priceless! Just like mine, a complete mess - the comment about putting the screws somewhere safe - yep, just plonk them right in the middle of the mess - had me in stiches! It even has my good pair of spectacles dumped in the middle of things that I replace with magnifying reading glasses when I'm doing electronics LOL! BUT - the theme of the video is excellent. My story, just a week before I saw this video - my wife dropped the remote in the dog's water bowl (yeah, I know, don't ask). I didn't know that had happened until I see a large plastic container on the kitchen bench full of rice.....I ask "what's with the rice?" and she says "it's sucking up all the water out of the remote - according KZbin this is the best way to do it". I laughed, dug up the remote, which was now also filled with some grains of rice (yes, she thoughtfully took the batteries out but didn't replace the cover), and then pulled it apart and proceeded to empty all the water (and rice grains) out and dry it. What amazed me was the amount of crap (I guess food crumbs, and a few dog hairs and tiny bits of fluff) in under and around the buttons, including some metal ones stuck on to the usual rubbery membrane. I used an old toothbrush and cleaned all the buttons and surfaces - I didn't know about the graphite tip - THANKS! - and dried all the bits out thoroughly. I put it back to together and gave it back to my wife...... an hour later she said "what did you do to the remote? it's working brilliantly now, and all the buttons are working!" LOL. So yeah, I can totally recommend giving any remote a good clean if there are "performance issues", particularly if it doesn't work underwater or in a grain silo LOL. The graphite tip is super useful.
@pescado99
@pescado99 4 ай бұрын
I'm loving this gentle pocking! OK, that's it, I'm cleaning my work bench.... just as soon as the next project is done (Sony amp repair, Nakamichi tape deck, Yamaha subwoofer. phew....) ;-O
@Grump-wm1tp
@Grump-wm1tp 4 ай бұрын
@@pescado99 LOL! from the other comments, I see we are all in good company!
@BTW...
@BTW... 3 ай бұрын
@@pescado99 I'd hate to eat from your kitchen if it's the same as your workspace. Easy to fix it. Learn to... CLEAN AS YOU GO.
@BTW...
@BTW... 3 ай бұрын
Ewww.. includes filthy dog or cat hair. Chances are you eat a kg of that stuff per year.
@PaulG.x
@PaulG.x 4 ай бұрын
Electronics technician with 48 years in the industry here. The common cause of the buttons losing sensitivity is that the silicone absorbs skin oils and these oils act as insulation on the pads and tracks. If you look at the tracks under the pads that are least sensitive , you will see the oily residue. You can clean the tracks and pads with alcohol for a short term fix but the pads will exude more of the oil that is within the silicone. A longer term fix is to soak the whole key pad sheet in Fuelite (Petroleum Spirit) Fuelite is the main ingredient in CRC Contact Cleaner (in fact it is the only ingredient). Use liquid Fuelite to do this , not Contact Cleaner because you have to immerse the silicone sheet. Soak the sheet for 5 minutes , it will swell a little , let it dry thoroughly and it will return to normal dimension. While the silicone has still some absorbed Fuelite in it , it will be easily torn so treat it carefully. Then reassemble the device. This fix should last several months depending on the state of the silicone sheet
@Blu3ManiC
@Blu3ManiC 4 ай бұрын
All you have to do is run the carbon part along a sheet of clean white A4 paper. Same thing. The A4 will absorb the oil and clean the carbon at the same time.
@stts762
@stts762 4 ай бұрын
I agree the problem is the oil that comes off the button but I doubt it comes from the oil in the skin It's just part of the membrane and the oil just oozes out after time and pressing The question is how do you stop the oil from coming out So far I have not seen anyone that has an answer to this All of these fixes are temporary The main thing is that is difficult to clean well the membrane and the contact I tried alcohol which seems to clean it but after it dries the pads still feel sticky so I have to clean it a few more times same thing with the membrane it feels a little oil still coming out after it is cleaned with alcohol So I bought a roll of aluminum foil with adhesive on one side and just cut small pieces and place them over the membranes That will last as long as any other method I have seen maybe a couple of years or until the membrane gets so oily that the foil falls off so than I just try to clean it and place a new foil and works again I was thinking of using conductive silver paint I am just not sure how long it will last as the oil under it I imagine it would make the paint not stick after a while
@PaulG.x
@PaulG.x 4 ай бұрын
@@stts762 The oil is only present on the buttons that are pressed and the more a button is used the more oily it gets. If it was just coming from the material , it would be present on all buttons. Aside from that , oil is not used in silicones
@stts762
@stts762 4 ай бұрын
@@PaulG.x I understand your logic but I doubt it comes from the oil from the skin I seriously doubt that oil passes through silicone otherwise there would be oil all around not just on the black rubbery part I think the rubber just disintegrates over time and repeated pressing If it was just oil from the skin it would be easy to clean up with soap and water This is more like a gummy sticky residue that is hard to clean even with alcohol
@Fomites
@Fomites 4 ай бұрын
Thanks. Very interesting. 😊
@deonmo1963
@deonmo1963 4 ай бұрын
I shall keep this video to show my family that there is a workbench worse than mine..
@FutureSystem738
@FutureSystem738 4 ай бұрын
Same here. Well maybe just similar to mine 😅
@558vulcanxh
@558vulcanxh 4 ай бұрын
No, mines the same too 😊
@wm.traynor1143
@wm.traynor1143 3 ай бұрын
And mine
@normaalkanaal
@normaalkanaal 3 ай бұрын
lol! Same
@janinapalmer8368
@janinapalmer8368 3 ай бұрын
Hahaha .... you should see mine 🥹😂😂
@yevgenylebedev9927
@yevgenylebedev9927 3 ай бұрын
Recently revived a Siemens DEST phone. It had the same problem. There is a graphite-based glue for repairing the rear window heating of a car. I used it. Silver glue was also on sale, but it was much more expensive... The result is excellent... Greetings from Russia.
@CorvusNumber6
@CorvusNumber6 2 ай бұрын
Bought some graphite from Amazon - Worked absolutely brilliantly! The TV remote is as good as brand new! Many thanks for uploading this tip. 👍🏻😁👍🏻
@cmdrbravo2zero726
@cmdrbravo2zero726 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant showing you how to re-carbon a remote control for any user that is suffering with flakey operation.
@7rorre
@7rorre 3 ай бұрын
I've had problems with the keypads on my domestic alarm system for a couple of years. I was unable to source a direct replacement at any price but after coming across your video, and already having some graphite powder that I use for lubrication door locks, I followed your advice this morning. Keypads work like new again. Thank you so much.
@southpark5555
@southpark5555 2 ай бұрын
Usually - eventually after enough pushing, the graphite power leaves a graphite imprint on the contacts side of the board, which can lead to short circuit and intermittent auto-button activation issues. There is something called graphit 33 which has worked best for me for longer term - without the imprint issue.
@woofowl2408
@woofowl2408 3 ай бұрын
Just tried this on a Sony TV remote and....wow! What a difference, before some keys barely worked, now the responsiveness is better than it has ever been. I have control of all things from my armchair again, the power is intoxicating.
@BobBasshead
@BobBasshead 3 ай бұрын
For crying out loud CLEAN OFF YOUR WORKBENCH! Thanks for the great tip!
@franceslarina5508
@franceslarina5508 3 ай бұрын
Bah - plenty of room for this project!
@mahavpm
@mahavpm 3 ай бұрын
If you want something done, ask a busy man!
@nolaspeaker5656
@nolaspeaker5656 3 ай бұрын
😂
@TheGorf
@TheGorf 3 ай бұрын
Clean workbenches are the sign of a broken brain. 😂
@Colorado_Native
@Colorado_Native 2 ай бұрын
I would be trying to figure a way to put all those 'parts' together to make a working remote. Bonus: Clean work bench.
@MisterWG
@MisterWG 2 ай бұрын
I also used to seal my remotes in plastic bags, especially useful when using with small children, teenagers and similar!
@hnag1907
@hnag1907 4 ай бұрын
I wished I came across your video earlier. I cut out the faulty button from the pad and replaced it with an unused button. Working very well!
@pescado99
@pescado99 4 ай бұрын
Wow, unconventional! Hope it lasts.
@shockingguy
@shockingguy 3 ай бұрын
OK, that’s thinking yeah
@fiddley
@fiddley 3 ай бұрын
I always cut tiny squares of aluminum foil, glued them to the pads and that really seems to last. It's very fiddly tho and your method seems way more convenient. I'll be giving it a shot next time.
@aplaceoncebelonged
@aplaceoncebelonged 3 ай бұрын
Worked wonders on my old key fob. Thank you! It was driving me crazy not being able to use it. Worst part is unlocking the car manually with the key has a 50/50 chance of setting the car alarm off for some reason.
@paulerickson1906
@paulerickson1906 Ай бұрын
I always wondered how those remotes worked inside? Amazingly easy to rejuvenate too. Maybe I'll try it. Thank you.
@pescado99
@pescado99 Ай бұрын
95% of remotes are exactly like this. The other 5% use pressure sprung buttons (like newer TCL TV's etc) - like ancient Atari 2600 controller pad buttons from the 1970's.
@paulerickson1906
@paulerickson1906 Ай бұрын
@@pescado99 With time these type of contacts they will eventually need this servicing periodically it seems. I thought about how it could be made a more permanent contact surface and probably the only material that wouldn't wear off and give long service would be gold as any other material would tarnish with time. This would also make them very expensive. Hmm. The things you learn about in life. Very interesting. Thanks again.
@tomsmith3045
@tomsmith3045 3 ай бұрын
Really great tip! I would have guessed that the graphite powder would fly around inside and contaminate everything. But it looks like it doesn't at all, it just sticks where it's supposed to. Betting it's because of the application method with the q-tip. Thanks for this!!
@southpark5555
@southpark5555 2 ай бұрын
It will. Eventually - it leaves an imprint on the contact side - after enough button pressing, and automatic short circuits can occur. graphit 33 works better.
@majinkakashi20
@majinkakashi20 4 ай бұрын
Wow man, thank you so much...seriously, i had no idea how to fix a remote like that. I tried cleaning with ipa and didn't know what to think or why it still wasn't working. You are awesome dude. Thanks
@00bikeboy
@00bikeboy 3 ай бұрын
I was inspired by your fix-it and went out to my local art supply shop and bought the softest graphite pencil I could find (I think 9B is the softest, but I could only find 8B). Worked like a charm! Thanks so much for taking the time to do this 🖖
@channelsixtyseven067
@channelsixtyseven067 4 ай бұрын
What a great idea, Mate. I've cleaned numerous remotes in the past and still they didn't work, due to being badly worn. This will extend the life of them. Cheers.
@clarencefoster7689
@clarencefoster7689 3 ай бұрын
@@channelsixtyseven067 if the remote was cleaned sooner the contact would not need refurbishing usually cleaning the sticky stuff of the contacts would bring it to life . Some people start tapping the remote and that will crack the circuitry some times fine wire and solder brings back life. Have cleaned 100s of them with soap and water and tuner cleaner
@channelsixtyseven067
@channelsixtyseven067 3 ай бұрын
@@clarencefoster7689 One of my own remotes was just plain worn out, a cheap generic remote that came with a Yamaha table-top hifi system. It was always kept clean, but constant use just wore away the contact pads. I got a replacement .... ridiculously expensive, though. I've kept the old one, so I've got to try refurbishing it. Yes, I've used the same cleaning methods you have, but sometimes, they are too far gone.
@ClarenceFoster-h7n
@ClarenceFoster-h7n 3 ай бұрын
clean them sooner and never use anything but a soft brush
@channelsixtyseven067
@channelsixtyseven067 3 ай бұрын
@@ClarenceFoster-h7n That depends on other people giving me their remotes. I keep my own remotes clean, not allowing food or drink anywhere near them with cling wrap and handle them with clean hands, Prevention is better than cure.
@Fomites
@Fomites 4 ай бұрын
Great video - thanks! I keep a small container of graphite around for lubricating locks - its cheap and lasts for ages if anyone was wondering. All hardware stores have it or buy it online.
@ericy4522
@ericy4522 3 ай бұрын
Great video. A supplementary note - pencil graphite is a mixture of clay & carbon. The softer the pencil grade, the more carbon, but none are pure carbon.
@FentronixElectronics-ul9kq
@FentronixElectronics-ul9kq Ай бұрын
Good idea. The more items saved from the tip the better.
@JulleNick69
@JulleNick69 17 күн бұрын
Worked perfectly! Thanks 😃
@lloydprunier4415
@lloydprunier4415 4 ай бұрын
Thank you I'll give this a try. I have a couple of remotes that are needing this.
@rasonline
@rasonline 2 күн бұрын
I just used tin foil and glued it to the faulty buttons. Worked like a charm
@solarlaura3355
@solarlaura3355 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. I have some controls that are flaky. Your workbench looks like mine. Brilliant.
@neofloripa
@neofloripa 4 ай бұрын
When I noticed that the problem was on the rubber I just used what have in hands, aluminum tape, small pieces cut with scissor and placed in every button, never got problems again.
@jagmarc
@jagmarc 4 ай бұрын
For the last few years too I've been using dots of kitchen foil and so far never needed redoing.
@pescado99
@pescado99 4 ай бұрын
@@jagmarc I've tried foil, but on the tiny tiny buttons it's too difficult to apply. Also a bit tedious if I'm honest.
@jagmarc
@jagmarc 4 ай бұрын
@@pescado99 You're right on there, very fiddly to apply. There's also the trick of rub a 6B lead directly on pad
@jagmarc
@jagmarc 4 ай бұрын
@@pescado99 I posted a reply earlier today but I've just now noticed has been CENSORED , no longer here. I'm not reposting censored text.
@theDane70
@theDane70 4 ай бұрын
I did the same and worked out great !!
@biggles5633
@biggles5633 3 ай бұрын
Thanks very much indeed. My home safe key buttons were not working and I was going to replace the safe. Now works perfectly! cheers.
@David-d9k2p
@David-d9k2p 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant! Agree about Denon as well.
@robertbaynham6909
@robertbaynham6909 2 ай бұрын
Cheers for the this technique I'll give it a go on my TV remote which has a slow to react main control button. Bonus I already have graphite powder 4 lubricating locks.
@ludrock2
@ludrock2 4 ай бұрын
Thankyou for this video. I've cleaned a few remotes in the past, but never knew about the carbon contacts. Great stuff!
@snakezdewiggle6084
@snakezdewiggle6084 3 ай бұрын
Good enough for Australia.! I went with the DIY Arrduino Lerning Remote. OLED touch screen.
@schwarzerritter5724
@schwarzerritter5724 3 ай бұрын
Great method. I used to glue aluminum foil on.
@mitchelllangs69
@mitchelllangs69 3 ай бұрын
might last longer than some powder
@MichaelJ023
@MichaelJ023 4 ай бұрын
For a long lasting solution I suggest Ted Pella 16056 Carbon Conductive Paint, DAG-T-502 available in 30g bottle. I’m not sure about the availability of smaller quantities. It’s used for electron microscopy to prevent charging in samples by being extremely conductive. It soaks into the carbon disks and dries quickly. I still let it dry overnight for best results. I’ve used this on several synthesizer keyboards and remotes. It does not flake off.
@pescado99
@pescado99 4 ай бұрын
Excellent - I've not heard of this (despite a rigorous search some time ago). Thanks
@dreddwailing5505
@dreddwailing5505 3 ай бұрын
Try searching for aquaDAG or similar products
@capiberra4118
@capiberra4118 3 ай бұрын
Great info, thanks. I have a kitchen scale that will be undergoing this treatment asap. Cheers!
@sirtango1
@sirtango1 4 ай бұрын
You can find graphite at the lock and key department in most hardware stores. They sell small tubes to lubricate the pin tumblers in locks.
@dubiousName
@dubiousName 3 ай бұрын
Tried it, LOVE it. Works great, thanks for the video 👍😀
@njlooksee
@njlooksee 3 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot. I’ve always cleaned the remote, but that stoped working. The graphite works great. I don’t know what to say, just thanks.
@johnnyshinnichi1785
@johnnyshinnichi1785 4 ай бұрын
Damn, I wish I'd seen this three hours ago. I've just taken a remote apart to clean it and it could have done with this doing. Great video thanks!
@nialled
@nialled 3 ай бұрын
Very helpful video. I am going to try it on a couple of remotes that have dodgy keys. Thank you
@LFOVCF
@LFOVCF 4 ай бұрын
Always clean the board. The buttons give off a residue like grease. You can literally wash the button membrane in warm water and dish soap but rinse thoroughly and dry with a hairdryer for speed. Do the board with switch cleaner or neat alcohol, just not anything that leaves anything behind. I've repaired hundreds and I don't dawb graphite on the pips, as I call them. problem pips can be roughed up with very fine sandpaper. A little brush over a few times will get to fresh carbon.
@BlankBrain
@BlankBrain 3 ай бұрын
Thanks, I'll give it a try. I used silver-impregnated paint that was designed to repair remote buttons. It eventually got hard and cracked off. Use paraffin wax (not kerosene) on wood drawer slides. Silicone spray works better for drawer slides because it doesn't wind up with the contents of the drawer (or if it does, it doesn't show). Silicone spray also does wonders for aluminum sliding window tracks. Pencil lead usually contains clay. Use the graphite from the bottles or tubes unless it's an emergency,
@louf7178
@louf7178 4 ай бұрын
Great idea. Swipe the pad with slight conductive paste so the graphite sticks. Too goopy will not leave a gap.
@nedstar7378
@nedstar7378 3 ай бұрын
Very nice video and useful video, thanks for sharing. Finally my tv remote control will come a life again.
@tomp538
@tomp538 3 ай бұрын
I bought a kit for this type of repair. It worked right after applying the magic carbon solution. But the repair did not last... This tip is worth the try as I have carbon and cotton swabs in stock.
@lagunafishing
@lagunafishing 3 ай бұрын
Excellent, straight to the point and no faffing about! Oh and I learned something too so thanks and well done. My problem is a little bit more tricky however.... sticky keyboard buttons from a spill on a Dell laptop which is impossible to remove or get into lol
@pescado99
@pescado99 3 ай бұрын
@lagunafishing pull it apart and wash out with warm soapy water, then dry it out in the sun before reassembly.
@lagunafishing
@lagunafishing 3 ай бұрын
@@pescado99 it has a built in keyboard, just buttons. Impossible to remove
@onmyworkbench7000
@onmyworkbench7000 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. I have a box full of old remote controls that I will be doing this to. By the way your workbench looks just like mine!!! All covered up with crap from the last 6 projects that you worked on.
@mercuriall2810
@mercuriall2810 4 ай бұрын
Great tip for fixing remote controls, it will be interesting to see how long it lasts, and whether graphite transfer can lead to shorting the button contacts or other components over time. I will try it myself, there’s little to lose when the remote isn’t working anymore. I wouldn’t recommend harvesting graphite from a 2B pencil. Pencils contain graphite bound together with clay, the more clay, the harder the pencil. So a 2H has more clay than HB, which has more than a 2B etc. Even a very soft 6B pencil contains a significant amount of clay. 2B pencils may contain enough graphite to be conductive, but you’re far better off using pure graphite. Using pencils as a graphite source in many other contexts (such as lubricating locks/keys) is not recommended, because the clay acts as an abrasive over time.
@majinkakashi20
@majinkakashi20 4 ай бұрын
Wow, i never knew that, but it makes perfect sense as to what could possibly be able to hold soft graphite together and is able to make it so useful, because when you think about it, surely pure harvested graphite alone would never hold its shape well enough to be made into a pencil, let alone, hold its shape while enough force is used to actually use it as a writing implement. thank you very much for sharing this important information. Hmm... i wonder if thats why theyre called lead...the combination of graphite and clay...i mean...certainly it doesn't actually contain lead right?. Probably a dumb thing to ponder. Lol
@mercuriall2810
@mercuriall2810 4 ай бұрын
@@majinkakashi20 There is no lead in ‘lead’ pencils and there never has been. When mineral deposits of graphite were first found, in the 1500s, it was thought to be a form of lead, and it was quickly recognised that it was useful for making marks/writing. The mineral was called plumbago, from the Latin for lead, plumbum. It was later discovered that the mineral plumbago was a form of carbon, graphite, but writing the name ‘lead’ stuck for the graphite writing stylus and later the pencil.
@jagmarc
@jagmarc 4 ай бұрын
Now that's an idea.... rub a piece of soft pure lead Pb on the pad directly to transfer the metal. In the past I have had success doing this with a very soft pencil but real lead I never thought of before.
@Yukanhayt-Mhenow
@Yukanhayt-Mhenow 3 ай бұрын
I've done this for years, used to make money as a kid fixing peoples remotes! People thought I was a genius!
@Ni5ei
@Ni5ei 4 ай бұрын
You can buy little conductive stickers that are made for this. They probably hold out longer than putting loose graphite onto the rubber pads.
@ewanuno
@ewanuno 4 ай бұрын
Yep, these are the best solution. Graphite power is only temporary and the various conductive glues don't adhere well.
@FromSagansStardust
@FromSagansStardust 3 ай бұрын
Yes! And I'm surprised nobody else here knows about this. I have tried all the other methods and they either don't work or don't last! These pads always work and I've not had one fail yet, and it's a neat clean easy job as well!
@nigelcarren
@nigelcarren 3 ай бұрын
As a very wealthy man once told me, "If a man washes his car in the week there is something wrong with his business, and if he washes his car at the week-end there is something wrong with his marriage!" (I am sure work-benches can also be included here) Thank you and respect to you. 😉👍🇬🇧
@szghasem
@szghasem 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. Never knew it was this simple. Wish I knew this 30 years ago
@UserBig1
@UserBig1 4 ай бұрын
Great my power button on my 26 years old remote works again, Thanks
@trebel
@trebel 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for all your hard work. Thank you kindly. Good tutorial. Cheers m8.
@Murray-e4f
@Murray-e4f 3 ай бұрын
Thanks MATE my remote is on the O.R. table tomorrow to many brews tonight to be putting a scalpel in my hand ................ cheers 🍻🍺
@andrewkay9226
@andrewkay9226 4 ай бұрын
Great video! Well spoken, clearly presented & very useful!! Thanks
@pescado99
@pescado99 4 ай бұрын
You're very welcome!
@AndrevwZA
@AndrevwZA 3 ай бұрын
Great tip. You do get a product called Liquid Graphite from Kuretake. You can paint it on and it will stick better.
@begonnne
@begonnne 3 ай бұрын
Well explained. Even I could understand it. Thanks.
@northotagogolf
@northotagogolf 4 ай бұрын
That's a neat method alright. I've cleaned mine in the past with IPA with reasonable effectiveness. I have a bottle of that graphite so will try that. I use my remotes in a polythene "jacket" - moisture seems to get in them otherwise. Cheers!
@davidbarmann
@davidbarmann 3 ай бұрын
I’ve had success with rear window defrost repair “paint”. It’s conductive and also works. I suspect your method is cheaper and probably just as effective.
@frantium
@frantium Ай бұрын
There's a conductive paint out there that works nicely with remotes, usually of the carbon/graphite or silver (more expensive) kind. OR, since I already have it in big rolls for shielding electric guitar cavities, use copper conductive tape cut to size.
@NeathVideos
@NeathVideos 3 ай бұрын
I use conductive paint, which is used to repair broken tracks in circuit boards etc
@terencemcculloch3294
@terencemcculloch3294 4 ай бұрын
I've had good success with "B6" pencil graphite.
@RogerTannous
@RogerTannous 4 ай бұрын
I used to clean with isopropyl alcohol then use a B-rated pencil to fix the bad ones, but it didn't use to last long. Finally, I managed to fix them by creating membranes using aluminium foil paper, regular paper sheets and capton tape just to avoid having them moving while reassembling the remote control. It's a tedious work, but it lasts for years.
@pescado99
@pescado99 4 ай бұрын
Good stuff. So far I'm really pleased with my method, but I'll be interested to know how long it lasts!
@BassetsElectronicsOddments
@BassetsElectronicsOddments 6 күн бұрын
I've revitalised tens if not hundreds of remote controls and similar push button devices over the years and I've never done what you have - in my experience it's unnecessary, as the problem is caused by grease and dirt on both the contact pads on the button, and the pcb. I wash the buttons with dish soap, rinse with distilled water then dry thoroughly - the pcb I clean with isopropyl alcohol. Never failed to work yet...
@pescado99
@pescado99 5 күн бұрын
@@BassetsElectronicsOddments 99% agree with you. You note I also use IPA. The carbon (graphite) works for pads that lose that conduction.
@tonyb83
@tonyb83 3 ай бұрын
Really useful tip, thanks
@dank9296
@dank9296 3 ай бұрын
Great tip. Thank You!!👍😎
@nicktecky55
@nicktecky55 3 ай бұрын
Mmmmm, maybe. I have a Sky remote, and of course I don't have a bottle of graphite lying around, but your analysis that it is the loss of conductivity that needs fixing sent me back to the remote with a pencil in hand. After a while, I did see some shininess, and the 'Select' button started working cleanly again. I carried on for a bit, and wiped the whole lot over with Isopropanol. All the shininess disappeared, but the button still worked. What I noticed was the the effect of rubbing the surface with the pencil was to remove the imprint of the circuit board from the underside of the buttons. (The pad on the PCB has etched lines under each button, that pattern was being transferred to the underside of the buttons) What I have concluded was happening was that it was the mechanical rubbing that had removed persistent waxes and grease that built up from human skin oil degrading, present of course because of the constant handling over many years. The graphite pencil was important because I had confidence that the graphite would cause no mechanical damage and so applied enough work to the task. Although I used the alcohol, it was the mechanical action of the kitchen towel used to wipe down that gave the cleaning effect. Anyway, no contradiction implied, this is what worked for me under your inspiration.
@W4BIN
@W4BIN 4 ай бұрын
Pencils contain graphite and clay, the harder the "lead" the more clay. The lock lubricant contains no clay. Ron W4BIN
@pescado99
@pescado99 4 ай бұрын
Hence the recommendation to use pure graphite or the highest B rated pencil you can find...
@vasiliynkudryavtsev
@vasiliynkudryavtsev 3 ай бұрын
The core of the pencil is graphite mixed with paraffin. You can burn off this wax and the residue should be of pure graphite and carbon. Never heard of clay used in pencils, well the world is vast.
@vsvnrg3263
@vsvnrg3263 3 ай бұрын
@@vasiliynkudryavtsev , both are in all 'lead' pencils to various degrees.
@charlesbartholomew2910
@charlesbartholomew2910 3 ай бұрын
Genius! Thank you for sharing.
@stevencooper2464
@stevencooper2464 4 ай бұрын
I always found that just wiping off the oxidation on the buttons was enough to get them working again; never thought about applying graphite to them.
@KunalVaidya
@KunalVaidya 3 ай бұрын
2B pencil will have some clay mixed in for making the pencil usable on paper , graphite powder ofcourse would be the best. I've found 12B pencil as max B value , I shall try this technique and fix all old remotes :)
@danblankenship5744
@danblankenship5744 3 ай бұрын
Many times old spilled soda and snack cracker dust have done damage to board and flexible button contacts. The more you scrub the worse they become. I have repaired dozens using silicone (RTV) and the aluminum wrapper from a pack of cigarettes. Cut small circles (hole punch helps) in the metal coated paper. Attach them with a dab of glue to the weak buttons. Allow ample time for the glue to set and you will have a permanent repair.
@johnfitzpatrick2469
@johnfitzpatrick2469 4 ай бұрын
Clever stuff, great for the hotel industry. 🌏🇦🇺
@pescado99
@pescado99 4 ай бұрын
@johnfitzpatrick2469 hotel remotes... I wonder how many people get really sick from those filthy pestilence sticks!
@johnmanderson2060
@johnmanderson2060 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this awesome fix 👍🏻
@roym827-v2l
@roym827-v2l 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant! After watching this, I tried it for myself. I didn't have any pure graphite so I scraped some off a pencil and used that. Remote is as good as new now! Many thanks.
@mattsan70
@mattsan70 4 ай бұрын
how long will it last though. Few weeks back to square one
@pescado99
@pescado99 4 ай бұрын
Let's see. It's my own 20 year old home theatre amp remote (Denon AVR2805), so I use it all the time and have a good sense of button 'action'.
@theelmonk
@theelmonk 4 ай бұрын
I'm wondering if the loose graphite will stay stuck to the pad or transfer to the pcb and make a permanent connection. Very interested to see how it ages as I tried something similar and messed it up. Thanks for the demonstration.
@zepeuf
@zepeuf 3 ай бұрын
No glue or anything like that to fix the carbon? How often do you have to do that ?
@pescado99
@pescado99 3 ай бұрын
@@zepeuf hopefully just once.
@pescado99
@pescado99 3 ай бұрын
@@zepeuf hopefully just once.
@leighmurrell5494
@leighmurrell5494 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info.
@mrmanch204
@mrmanch204 3 ай бұрын
Helpful, thank you.
@deucedeuce1572
@deucedeuce1572 3 ай бұрын
I've tried other methods that worked well too. I wish I knew you could use pencils and graphite. I forgot graphite was conductive, even though I'm sure we've all seen the videos where they cook graphite rods/pencils with electricity... and in many cases they use graphite anodes/cathodes for anodizing, electroplating and electrolysis (and countless other things). I've used metal foils that worked great and have also had success with metal plating/depositing. Also, the electrically conductive gel works well too. This is probably the easiest method I've seen though (next to the conductive gel that pretty much goes on the same). I wish I had several remotes that I could do tests on, repairing each one with a different method and then testing them long term to see which method works the best and lasts the longest. I barely ever use any remotes these days though and the few I have work just fine at the moment.
@pescado99
@pescado99 3 ай бұрын
Yes, I've tried the foil and glue, but found this method (particularly with pure graphite) works the best (better than pencil dust). The intent was the share a method that was easy to use, long lasting, and cheap.
@deucedeuce1572
@deucedeuce1572 3 ай бұрын
@@pescado99 Well, you succeeded.
@southpark5555
@southpark5555 2 ай бұрын
heheh - I recognise the jaycar mini screwdriver kit. The thing to look out for with the carbon powder and graphite pencil thing is that the graphite can eventually leave an imprint of graphite across the 'circuit' part of the board, and then end up with intermittent button auto-activation issues due to the 'short' that can occur. The only thing that has worked on a better long term basis for me is graphit 33. Relatively expensive - but has worked best for me on a long term basis - without the short circuit issue that people know about when using graphite that is not properly bonded to the rubber pad.
@pescado99
@pescado99 2 ай бұрын
Good tip, thanks. I'm definately chasing a long-term solution.
@pescado99
@pescado99 2 ай бұрын
If this happens (intermittent button auto-activation issues due to the 'short' that can occur), clean the cct board with IPA to clean off the excess carbon.
@MicraHakkinen
@MicraHakkinen 4 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you very much!
@45rpm.
@45rpm. 3 ай бұрын
Does the graphite powder stick on to the old glue that was there or does it just sit on the surface? If it is not glued, wouldn't it rub off quickly during use? Would conductive paint be more hardwearing or would that cause too much inconsistency in the surfaces? Too many questions I know :/
@Animal_lives_matter
@Animal_lives_matter 3 ай бұрын
yes it does rub off and thats why you can only use a very small tiny amount of it and it must be crushed into a paste otherwise the powder flecks will rub off and short things. i would recommend using conductive paint instead.
@aguiremedia
@aguiremedia 3 ай бұрын
Beautiful. Thanks for sharing
@mikehibbett3301
@mikehibbett3301 4 ай бұрын
Brilliant advice, thanks!
@leighmurrell5494
@leighmurrell5494 3 ай бұрын
Will this work with the keypad on a cordless landline phone ?
@pescado99
@pescado99 3 ай бұрын
@@leighmurrell5494 depends on the buttons. If they are spring tactile, then no, but if they are rubber with conductive contacts to a circuit board (like 99% of remotes), then yes.
@jpedrick1571
@jpedrick1571 3 ай бұрын
Genuine "India Ink" works great for this and is a lot easier. You can test the ink by putting a drop on a piece of paper and letting it dry. Then check it for conductivity with a DVM. Buy it at an art supply store.
@cat22_a1
@cat22_a1 3 ай бұрын
Question: Do you use the Q-tip dry to pick up the graphite powder?
@scottcarson3004
@scottcarson3004 3 ай бұрын
If you happen to know a piano technician, I'm guessing that action burnishing fluid would be a good option. It's basically a black carbon suspension which is brushed onto felt to wood contact points within the piano action, left a few moments to dry, then burnished up. Not much cost for a small bottle that lasts forever, in the UK it's called Winslip.
@mikeslater6246
@mikeslater6246 3 ай бұрын
I've had good luck cleaning those contacts on the buttons and on the circuit board using a pencil eraser.
@vsvnrg3263
@vsvnrg3263 3 ай бұрын
google must have been watching me pushing hard on the tv remote. thank you google. just this once.
@Tiki_Media
@Tiki_Media 3 ай бұрын
I have had success with cleaning the carbon contacts with a white nylon eraser. It seems to remove any non conductive buildup and restores the contact to its previous conductivity. Give it a try if you don’t want to mess with graphite powder.
@pescado99
@pescado99 3 ай бұрын
That's been mentioned in the comments. It's an OK solution, but it only cleans doesn't the PC board, but doesn't restore conductivity to the contact pads.
@Tiki_Media
@Tiki_Media 3 ай бұрын
@@pescado99 yeah, it works well!
@NicB-Creations
@NicB-Creations 3 ай бұрын
You can get graphite spays like "Graphit 33" which is graphite suspended in lacquer which is what I use for this sort of thing. Just spray some in a plastic container en dab it on with a cotton swab. It is quite expensive though.
@pescado99
@pescado99 3 ай бұрын
@NicB-Creations agree, this was meant to show a budget DIY fix.
@unquiche
@unquiche 4 ай бұрын
I used to use the pencil method to get graphite on the contacts, but that eventually flakes off and gets in the way of things, making it work worse and need another cleaning. The last time I skipped the pencil dust and used 99% isopropyl to scrub each contact. That worked better than any prior fix. I suspect it was removing non-conductive surface contaminants that had collected on them. Electronics circuit cleaning spray might do the same.
@BrickmanZero
@BrickmanZero 4 ай бұрын
What kind of pencil did you use? Like H, HB or a high B?
@unquiche
@unquiche 4 ай бұрын
@@BrickmanZero Most likely #2 (=HB) as it’s the most common in my region. Still, the good results I got with a complete lack of added graphite after the 99% isopropyl cleaning is impossible to argue with - the conductive pads probably accumulate a film over time that makes them less conductive, and the strong alcohol removed that, restoring the conductive surface
@BrickmanZero
@BrickmanZero 4 ай бұрын
@@unquiche I see, I asked cuz I cleaned my house tv remote with isopropyl alcohol multiple times and it made a lot of difference for all buttons but the power on, so I'm still going to test the graphite or the aluminum foil this weekend
@unquiche
@unquiche 4 ай бұрын
@@BrickmanZero I always clean the metal contact points on the board side, too, because they can also get a film or solid contaminant (like dried cola lol) on them, which would also break the functionality. I might also try electronics circuit cleaner spray next time I have a bad remote, just to see if it’s better or worse than the 99% isopropyl.
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