RE-LIVE | Final 5yo horses - FEI WBFSH Dressage World Breeding Championship for Young Horses 2022

Enjoy now the final of the 5-year-old horses at the FEI WBFSH Dressage World Breeding Championship for Young Horses 2022
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[@laurenjames515]

Charlott-Maria Schürmann - Lifetime 13 0:2:30 Jeanna Hogberg - Be Allex (SWB) 0:12:35 Jessica Lynn Thomas - Maddox Mart 0:23:26 Mathis Goerens - Feuerfunke OLD 0:33:45 Manuel Dominguez Bernal - Galleria's Summerville OLD 0:44:40 Allan Uglso Grøn -Soebakkehus Maude 0:54:47 Eric Guardia Martinez - Feine Bella NRW 1:04:57 Leonie Richter - In My Mind 1:16:02 Franka Loos - Raccoon 1:43:30 Lisa Marie Koch - Fille D'or OLD 1:53:54 Lena Waldmann - Chère Celine OLD 2:03:00 Dinja van Liere - Mauro Turfhorst 2:12:00 Kirsten Brouwer - My Precious 2:21:22 Leonie Richter - Vitalos 2:32:25 Frederic Wandres - Fashion Prinze OLD 2:42:55 Victoria E. Vallentin - Lyngbjergs St. Paris 2:54:45

[@equestanton1017]

Absolutely loved the mare St Paris, Prince Thatch xx showing very strongly through here. Incredibly beutifull how a certain combo brings the TB to the fore so brilliantly. That lighness of being.

[@julialeblanc1875]

As someone who rides with an FEI trainer, this seems an excessive ask for 5 year olds. I would agree with all the comments if they were judging 6 or 7 year olds. This is a high level of collection for 5. As well as expecting correct contact and correct gaits throughout.

[@equestanton1017]

Yea, in a nutshell, and I have been meaning to reply to you about this particularily as no one else has. Been on a long overdue holiday. These competitions for young horses are nothing but good old horse markets. Then there is also marketing itself of young stallions. That's not to say you don't find brilliantly balanced, forward, uphill, elastic confident and flashy youngsters moving over the back with the ease and supplness of much older horses because you do. Unfortunately, though this standard shouldn't be the criteria for judging horses of this age because it sets as you correctly state unrealistic expectations for all youngsters. Horses this age should be making mistakes, a step or two out of balance or a little tiredness in trasition, maybe a little crooked or larger walk pirouette, this is realistic. Setting standards in competition for young horses to show like metranomes without mistake means there is a great danger, an extreme high possibility horses have been trained beyond their years. Quite honestly there is also still IMO far too much emphasise on the trot on overall evaluation of scores. So a horse may score higher across the board based on just that trot. Certainly the audiance also seems to think this is justified by their murmerings and applause. At five I'm expecting a powerfull elastic mover, good self carriage, bouncy correct canter and fantastic walk. Plenty hind action and drive, doesn't mater to be honest what is going on with their front legs as long they are moving straight and have good shoulder usage and not too much knee. Such a horse would not do well here, even though it produced such a horse as Valegro. Irony. Absolutely!

[@julialeblanc1875]

@@equestanton1017 thank you so much for your thoughtful response. Not enough people have dialog on here. I agree with everything you said completely. I start all my own horses as well as start client horses and help my trainer foal out her home bred horses. I event, but my trainer primarily breeds dressage horses, we only ever expect what you described for the babies, they also usually get a later than normal start so they can go out with friends and be horses, they get work on ground manners and thats it. I have never had a horse end up sour, hating their work, lame, sore etc. I do not believe a successful career or talent, comes with age constraints, plenty of horses have proven that.

[@equestanton1017]

@@julialeblanc1875 Brilliant, as it should be. Besides there is also a danger in promoting stallions so heavily and so young. It means they get the auction horse training for young horse competitions ie too much asked too soon, this includes showing too much collection, suspension in things like the trot. At least after much complaint showing collection is not so much a problem with young horse auctions anymore. Also soundness issues often show up later but the young stallion may have already been used heavily for breeding after these early successes at young horse competitions. This is speculative breeding which may or may not pay off long term but makes money short term. Hedging bets on unproven stallions as the next big thing. This is of course more profit driven than anything else sadly. Large nationally dominating private enterprises are mostly at fault here at the expense of traditional small breeders or state studbook approach where breed improvement has mostly always been sacrosanct. I'm not so happy with the extremes showing up in dressage breeding either, these are always dangerous for any working livestock be it dogs or horses. A basic highly capable athlete is far more solid bases for breeding. I'm not sure these competitions for young horses reflect that adequately when they often happily reward extremes at the expense of more solid fundamentals.

[@emmawillard1832]

@@equestanton1017 An excellent synopsis of what "dressage" has become: too much too soon and not for the best interests of the horses.

[@christinedavies336]

Beautiful horses and great riders displaying some brilliant dressage moves. Great judge and commentator - who were they? I didn't know that the spectators could join in - with scoring - too. I love the artwork on the 'B' side of the spectator stand. .

[@cocothepom-pom9143]

What’s that stuff on the horses bottom

[@user-sb8jq1dn5q]

1:50:30 2:29:54 2:40:23 3:02:21

[@equestanton1017]

I'm afraid the commentator here on FEItv was incredibly grating. It wasn't so much what she said but how she said it, painful on the ear. Doesn't the FEI have automatic voice synthesisers or tuners they could use to make it more pleasurable, her voice modulation is just so off i had to indeed mute the entire thing. Not pleasant at all, groan.

[@nando3922]

Agree with all of your points! There is something off with the delivery, it pierces the ears.

[@infernafirestein]

Agree! I find her irritating when she says that things are a “shame” and a “pity”. Come on, they’re young horses.

[@equestanton1017]

@@infernafirestein Exactly! To ask for perfection is not only ridiculous but also counter productive. These are not the things to be looking for. At this level there shouldn't be a metronome of a horse.

[@ragequit6926]

i ate a horse once