Re-Testing Lossless Scaling, now with x10 and x20 Frame Generation modes!!

[@AncientGameplays]

NOW, I am fixing the issues that I made on the last video :D Testing X10 and X20 Frame generation as well

[@ZArkadia-lc3fp]

So a little note sir Fabio, if you wish to see the x5, x10, x20 results, you need to increase the max frame latency. I am not really expert but it is more like increasing the limit of how many frames can be rendered. In AMD GPU, if you put 3, the allowed rendered frames is doubled of your monitor's refresh rate. Example: You have 144hz monitor, max frame latency is 3. So 288fps is the max to be rendered. (in NVIDIA GPU, max frame latency is 2 for double. I don't know why AMD needs to set value 3 for double). If max frame latency is 1, then it is only rendered max of your monitor's refresh rate. It should be tripled if you set max frame latency to 3 (for NVIDIA), 4 (for AMD) so 144x3 = 432fps So basically, you should give it a try to increase max frame latency for x5, x10, x20. Of course this is just my understanding. If I am wrong in explaining or facts, do forgive me

[@alpcan151]

You still made many mistakes but at least much better than last video you recorded. You need to increase max frame latency setting to higher values to increase your fps with x10 and x20 (or any frame gen x where you dont get the fps you want even though gpu is not maxed) . That is why it was not going higher. Also 4k is very demanding with lsfg so you need to lower res scale to much lower values like 50 percent. Even then you wont see any problems on image most of the time. It only lowers optical flow resolution, not reducing resolution of game. With at least 50 res scale, you would lose much less fps and get much better experience. I appreciate trying again though, thanks for you time.

[@joaocardoso9031]

So now we can have a better experience on games that don't have built in frame gen like Jeraldo o feiticeiro

[@alpcan151]

@@joaocardoso9031 You can have better experience in games with built in frame gen also since lsfg can go much higher multipliers than other frame gen techs (up to x20). Other frame gen techs can go only up to x2, or with 5000 series nvidia gpus x4 only (if game supports)

[@XeonPrototype]

to generate the frames your gpu needs to have enough power to run them still, so turning down the settings to low for the 10X and 20X would give you better results and way less artifacts, it's why it works better when you cap the frame rate to something capable, great video, hope you get better!

[@GavrilSuhacev]

Now i get 480fps from 60 in cyberpunk at 4k , i think my rx7800xt = 5090 by nvidia logic

[@AncientGameplays]

XD

[@vixtor6935]

Now my 3070 is a 4080 super

[@blackstar-genX]

My god you've cracked their code

[@orwennesfh4813]

Now my 4080 is 8080

[@Xyr1um]

fr

[@jonas314ano]

now i get 600 fps in cyberpunk path tracing at 8k on my nokia 3310 therefore its better than 5090

[@Viilap]

@@jonas314ano therefore correct you are indeed

[@EtoYouMadeThis]

Correct

[@Rakanay_Official]

Impossible with AI

[@tonyb7182]

Love it 😂😂😂

[@The_Nokia_3310]

can confirm. he did

[@metalhead2476]

Nvidia 2026: you only need 1 frame to run the entire game! Nvidia 2027: we can directly generate frames in your brain. 2GBs of vram are enough.

[@MrSiloterio]

Sounds like a win tbh

[@MathewCR]

Nvidia:This is fake news, when we get access to the brain we won't need any vram

[@코리아타운234]

oh yeah!

[@Tigherr]

I wouldn't complain getting 240hz raytracing on cyberpunk 2077 with my gtx 770 😂

[@tobytoxd]

what if only 500KB brain? pls help

[@onlinecheatersexposed8491]

im a fan of x20, now i dont need to do shrooms anymore to experience visual artifacts... haha

[@cajampa]

Shrooms is way more than visual artifacts. Otherwise it would be enough to just look out of a kaleidioiskope

[@99mage99]

@@cajampa It's just a joke, brother

[@cajampa]

@@99mage99 Of course it is. But to people who don't know, can think most of it is a visual effect. And nothing could be further from the truth. I am only stating this to those who don't know but are curious.

[@Reirainsong]

LSD: it's less of an ass than DLSS.

[@Tauriz_]

I've never used anything in my life except for weed (for medical purposes, totally), but x20 is what I imagine acid trip would look like.

[@Viilap]

20x mode fg looks like playing on mushrooms

[@madez24]

Ahahaha 😂

[@DeadNoob451]

The trails are real man.

[@praisetheoak]

This new version of Lossless Scaling is absolutely nuts. I've tested it with some games that were problematic with previous versions like Wind Waker (Dolphin Emulator) and Berserk: Millennium Falcon (Dreamcast, Retroarch) and the artifacts are like 90% reduced; Link's head no longer disappears and the ground in Berserk, specially the tiled bricks no longer produces the same nasty artifacts as before. Input latency is improved to the point where you might as well have LSFG3 active at all times since the experience is so much improved.

[@AncientGameplays]

Great to hear!

[@astrea555]

Yeah based I also love using LS with emus

[@7ens3nButt0n]

i use it on the old OG GTA SA which is hardlocked to 30 and the X2 mode feels like magic. no artifacts whatsoever and super smooth gameplay. for emulators and old games this is godsend. download more FPS, if only i could tell my 12 years old me.

[@TeIetubbies]

What about zelda totk?

[@GradyKallenbach]

I've been playing TOTK at 240fps for months thanks to Lossless Scaling. I still sometimes have some stuttering, but that's just because I don't know how to eliminate little frame time spikes. I've tried locking the frame rate to 40 or 45fps using Ultracam, but it never resulted in a smoother experience, so I stick to 60fps and multiply the frames by 4. I can't go back to playing TOTK any other way.

[@qwewer6]

20x looks like an AI dreaming the game

[@Kasamsky]

This will transform your GT 130 to a RTX 5090 wow!

[@joen4287]

My gtx 1560 is now the Upcoming RTXDLSSOD 9090 TI :) and it's giving around 10 Native fps :D BUT WITH DLSSOD 99 It will give 30k Fps :3

[@Alfi-x6b]

not actually u need high enough base framerate like 60

[@Grstrangler]

And surely there will be no difference at all between a 50series doing their 4x FG and a software that costs 6$ on steam. Who cares about quality anyways.

[@mal-avcisi9783]

i scaled up from 2 fps to 240 fps. and 360p to 4k. everything perfektly fine. i can now play cyberpunk in 4k@240h with my 15 years oid pc. this is awesome.

[@mohamad.a5074]

Dude are you serious? 🤔​@@mal-avcisi9783

[@GFClocked]

Checkmate jensen, you got 4x while we have 20x, so thats like four 5090s by your logic jensen

[@ShFred]

And we all have a Xbox now!

[@narrativeless404]

​​@@ShFred Is that a pun on Geforce Now!? 😂

[@narrativeless404]

I mean, technically not because the FPS doesn't go over 202 and then just gets more and more distorted.

[@GFClocked]

@narrativeless404 shh. Don't tell Jensen this. We just draw random bars on a graph with no relevance to real life.. just like him.

[@narrativeless404]

@GFClocked *LMFAO* 🤣🤣🤣

[@AmrElZngy]

the example of a hard worker even tho he's ill he remade the video just for simple mistake, great video as always get well soon brother

[@AncientGameplays]

Thank you for the kind words

[@MrBeetsGaming]

Couldn't care less about the mistakes, just glad you made a video mentioning it because I wouldn't have even noticed Lossless Scaling updated. I don't use it all that much but I actually tried it on Nobody Wants to Die at 4k max settings capped at 30fps just to see how it looked and felt going from 30 to 60 fps and I ended up playing the entire game like that.

[@AncientGameplays]

I playes that game too haha

[@HexBore13]

I do love these technologies. So now the name of the game is to get to to 60fps +10%, lock to 60 and then double up to 120 (I have 120Hz monitor). There's life in the old 6800XT yet!

[@minecraftotalwar]

Or if you have a crap GPU, the goal is to get 40 fps and lock to 30 + lossless scale to 4X

[@JerryOIOOIIO]

The old 6800XT is running Stalker 2 at 1440 getting 90-100fps with ultra settings. LSFG 3.0 is icing on the cake.

[@ocerco93]

Old lol.. what I have to say with my 2070?

[@Jotaro_Kujojo]

Afmf2?

[@GaigeTheMechromance1]

6800XT old? lol

[@RawfunRahman]

This is how the GT 710 will be faster than the 4090 - using multi frame generation

[@thxrimes7]

my vega 8 too 😎

[@arcad3racer]

Every GPU is RTX 5090 now

[@tobytoxd]

But 1080TI is better cause lower TDP and i have 11GB nearly the same as 12GB 5070 which is now a 5090 but my card is a lot smaller!

[@ArcueidBrunestuddo]

Lossless Scaling be pulling a Kaioken with its multipliers 😂

[@Haru_no_ki]

Losless is crazy now. In wuthering waves the only ghosting i could see is when I stay still and start sprinting. Using LSFG 3.0 is a game changer in this game because its locked at 60 fps for everyone, except the ryzen 7 and intel i7 owners

[@GraveUypo]

when i played that it ran fine at 120fps for me, it wasn't locked. and i don't remember installing an unlocker.

[@reidhikari708]

This "ghost" is not due to the losless is an "effect" of the game. Try disabling losless and test again. Probably ghosting will still happen.

[@heyolorenns]

Be quiet weeb

[@shanroxalot5354]

I recall the game having a 120fps option on release when I watched Tektone play it, and flamed other gacha games that didn't.

[@amy-295]

You can enable 120fps on unsupported hardware but yeah i think you should use lossless anyway

[@TheHrt5]

PLEASE NOTE: If you are locking the FPS globally with Nvidia control panel, LS will not generate more frames than that since its self is also then locked. To resolve this, just add the separete Nvidia control panel for Lossless Scaling and remove the lock just it !

[@1LOW-s5u]

its better to lock fps per game on nvidia, or use riva turner.

[@TheHrt5]

@1LOW-s5u Yes, but some pople (like me) like to have fps globally locked and the unlock it per game if required. Thats why i wrote original comment

[@Victor-rn7jz]

My headcanon is that the x20 FG mode in Alan Wake is part of the lore.

[@vixtor6935]

It's scratch changing the story

[@AncientGameplays]

🤣🤣

[@aceghostrus122]

Looking at the ingame effects before frame gen it makes sense lol

[@Kneel2ThaCrown]

This cost like 7 dollars, Nvidia's new GPU's are 500+ for the same thing. Hmm... tough decision.

[@AncientGameplays]

Not same thing haha. Much better, this is just an algorithm.

[@amy-295]

I bought it for $4 or is it depend on the country?

[@sermerlin1]

The way it is right now lossless scaling can't compare at all to the nvidias frame gen technology. as ancient said, this is an algorithm while nvidias frame gen uses in engine data alongside machine learning for prediction of motion in accurate manner. Now I'm not fan of ANY frame gens and i'd rather have real 60 or 120 fps instead of invented fake frames and i'd rather devs spend time to actually build their engines and games to work properly on the mighty powerful hardware we all own today. Just go play days gone and then play any modern game and tell me it makes sense that days gone runs as is on ps4 while modern games run like crap on much much more powerful modern hardware.

[@RiptideCat]

its $3.5 USD for me

[@splasherrrr]

nvdia fg wayyy better

[@infantryL0RD]

For those who love modded Skyrim, this tool is a game changer.

[@DickeRadieschen]

How you use it?

[@fnfal113]

you can now go nuts with an enb

[@LeoEichdi]

It doesn´t work with community shaders for me, I get a black screen

[@DickeRadieschen]

@@fnfal113 please dont.

[@7ens3nButt0n]

@@LeoEichdi that makes no sense as LS only takes a live capture of your screen and injects frames or upscales. You would get a black screen with or without it.

[@soplam9555]

I love his app for watching movies with frame gen, movies with CGI character the app makes them blend more into the scenes with the real actors.

[@rayder3543]

Small correction: more frames is better because the FG has LESS information to predict, it has more information to begin with so it's easier.

[@AncientGameplays]

It doesn't has less to predict, it has the same percentage wise, no?

[@rayder3543]

@@AncientGameplays Technically if you make more native frames the difference between each is less, so it's easier to predict the fake ones

[@shadowofthesupremo7898]

It doesn't make any sense. You are predicting what's between 1 frame to 1 other with Frame gen. If you got 10 frames or 500 frames you still are going to predict what's between 1 frame to 1 other not 1 frame to 20 others. Results are the same, only thing different is movement. If you have a still image then you get less artifacts due to having little to 0 variations while if you have a lot of movement you will get LSD

[@damianabregba7476]

The more frames, the closer the prediction is to both frames. Difference between them is smaller(in terms of position of objects), so it has less room for errors

[@thebigcj517]

The feature in the latest update 3 has completely fixed the ghosting that you face in games when playing at 40 or 30 FPS

[@BadaBoomM3]

You can also use Lossless Scaling on youtube videos and twitch livestream , setting fsr to max sharpness will make the image way less blurry especially when watching video games.

[@rashonkelly3598]

Thanks for the tips!

[@BadaBoomM3]

Framegen also works , pretty nice if you are watching some fast paced fps game video for exemple

[@AncientGameplays]

Stated that as well

[@omegacatscripter]

Without premium videos are 60 fps on yt so this is rly helpfull

[@laupatual7137]

Get well soon!

[@AncientGameplays]

Thank you! Considerably better now!

[@Had115]

​@@AncientGameplays Don't forget the Vitamin too!

[@ktvx.94]

Jensen Huang: "Write that down! Write that down!"

[@Carnyzzle]

I tried out lossless scaling on final fantasy xiv on X2 mode with LSFG 3 and get less than 15ms latency even with an online game when before the update I got obvious unplayable input lag, I'd say I'm impressed

[@majimakyoudai1284]

Honestly I only need x2 .Now with this update I have less artifacts and my fans stop being noisy , the resources drop greatly. I love this new LS 3.0🤩. Great work broo.👍

[@tobytoxd]

15:10 That's an awesome tip in the upper right! Thank you for sharing all of this!

[@darju3687]

Tekken 8 in 60fps to 240fps, that smoothness is insane. Now i cant go back to 60 xD

[@AncientGameplays]

🤣🤣🙏

[@melexxa]

tekken and other figthing games like mk, sf combat is synced with fps, using fg is just worsening your chance to register a hit before the opponent does because of additional input delay

[@TheRedCap30]

​@@melexxatrue, but it does look sick for single player

[@regularguy3879]

i've tested lsfg3 x4 in first kingdom come @ high settings on my rx 6600 and i can confirm. It's simply amazing, almost afmf2 quality with double the fps, now i can easily hit 160fps with the same settings and the game plays just smooth as butter, it's incredible

[@aritrachatterjee6145]

My Rx 6600= Rtx 4090 Let's go..... 🎉🎉🎉

[@TreFeKsGaming]

Same i was about to make a huge upgrade to the 9070xt but now i can stay on my Rx6600 because with x50 Framegen it has the performance af the AiTX 6090 thats not even releases yet

[@имерфамилер]

Joke aside 😂. Is it good for rx 6600?

[@Raees098noice]

I have tested x20 mode with 60 fps on some games. One of the games I was averaging 60/1000fps with major ghosting and some bad but playable input delay. It felt incredibly smooth on my 280hz monitor and I think with a few more tweaks and updates it will be reasonably playable in the future.

[@hollowkurow]

Thanks to LSFG 3.0 I was able to play silenrt hill 2 remake at 60fps with my 1070 and the experience was impressive

[@SpotAllen]

Dude, back when I was doing YT stuff, I learned _very_ quickly that no matter how well I _thought_ I was pushing through the sick brain-fog, it was never enough. It ALWAYS showed in the final video. Get better! 😃

[@AncientGameplays]

🙏💪

[@terence77o7]

Appreciate your videos as always my man. It's ok to take a break if you are sick brother. We can't be 100% all the time. You release alot of content as is. Rest up if you need

[@hatty101]

Glad to see a re-test! thank you very much 💗💗

[@Ange_Guerrier]

I finally got my first pc which looks like brand new for 1350€ from a guy who where about to travel to Australia so he put a low price to sell it fast. It's equipped with a 14600kf and a PNY RTX 4070 ti super and the other components are pretty premium too. Still haven't played on it yet but i'm excited.

[@emilgustavsson7310]

You are gonna have a fkn blast on that system bro! Glad for you! Welcome to the top tier of gaming... It IS glorious here ain't gunna sugar coat it for the consoled.

[@Ange_Guerrier]

@@emilgustavsson7310 thanks 🤣

[@JerryOIOOIIO]

If you haven't already, get a G-Sync monitor with a very high refresh rate, and yes, you're going to have a blast.

[@Ange_Guerrier]

@@JerryOIOOIIO I had already a 180 Hz Monitor with G-Sync which i used with my laptop and this gpu is a beast, I won't need to upgrade for a while.In Cyberpunk I get like 110 FPS in 1440 P Ultra Dlss quality, With Ray tracing ultra Dlss quality around 75 FPS and even with Path Tracing can still get 45-55 FPS DLSS quality.

[@udaria6696]

Same. Upgraded from a 3080ti laptop to a 7800x3d + 4080 super for 1650 bucks. I think its a good deal hopefully since it has 3 tb of ssd.

[@SakigakeMechazawa]

Thanks for sharing this man! Gonna try some multi GPU for some experiment with Lossless Scaling.

[@thxrimes7]

You are a hero, and that software too. Lossless scaling is cooking 🔥👑

[@mbrj3idi830]

Thanks for your great effort, hope you get better soon. Everyone should watch this video with LSFG enabled. 🙂 Working with videos, emulators and old games (old games, the gameplay speed attached to fps, and it ruins when forced within the game itself) is what make this software is so great.

[@ClassicRoc87]

Valve should ad the frame gen portion as a built in feature for the Steam Deck.

[@aricrudd6579]

I’m not sure that’s possible. The program doesn’t even launch on Linux, no matter what compatibility thing is used. I wouldn’t hold my breath.

[@ClassicRoc87]

@aricrudd6579 That's not how that works. The software is designed with a different operating system in mind. Fsr didn't run on Linux until games started implementing it or until steam implemented it manually in the UI of the steam deck. If they wanted to get it working they could but it could be an issue of licensing so it's still might not happen. You're not wrong about that part in all likeliness.

[@aricrudd6579]

@@ClassicRoc87 FSR works through the graphics pipeline, if I’m not mistaken, but Lossless Scaling apparently uses a few Windows functions that can’t be handled by things like Wine and Proton. Making LS run on Linux is far more complicated than you’re implying.

[@ClassicRoc87]

@aricrudd6579 fsr 2.0 works through the pipeline. 1.0 is basically a fancy filter which is kind of how the frame generation works in this application. Don't get me wrong I'm not an expert but I believe it can be implemented if they wanted it to.

[@aricrudd6579]

@@ClassicRoc87 Frame generation is more than a fancy filter, considering it has to actually interpolate frames to make extra frames. I think the devs of LS actually explained somewhere why they can’t/won’t make a Linux version. But considering Proton recently added support for frame generation, hopefully someone else can do something similar for Linux. I just don’t think LS itself will ever be Linux compatible.

[@mr.sophistication2461]

Bro, this thing is wild. This video actually made me go buy it. 👍

[@emilgustavsson7310]

As you should. =) The most value on Steam. By a mile or ten thousand...

[@shyamlok]

Fabio, thank you so much for your hard work, In india, in the morning the first video came out. and now at night 11:58pm, another came out.

[@AncientGameplays]

Machine haha

[@matimk_]

i have a rtx 4070S and with this software I can finally play games at max graphics with more than 60 fps ABSOLUTELY AWESOME

[@MissingCredentials]

I thought you might make a revision. Good stuff my man you earned my sub

[@callmealex1247]

i really respect and appreciate you for rectifying your mistake, also i recommend using VRR (g sync or freesync with LS and set sync mode to allow tearing for even lower latency), also capping fps gives better latency too, if you have an old GPU and run a dual gpu setup it is just crazy broken op. ALSO IT IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED TO LOWER RESOLUTION SCALE WHEN RUNNING AT 4k or 1440p (nvidia does that too). For 4k 50% and 1440p 70-80%.

[@xMaTus25]

Glad you're feeling better. Gerald.

[@AncientGameplays]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Shahzad12357]

Jerald you mean?

[@KenneXS]

I've learned more about how to use Lossless Scaling than I ever have before. TY 💯❤

[@Simte]

Glad too see your health is improving, man.

[@xNocturneSong]

Love your content man, keep it up :D.

[@Xyr1um]

I have an 165hz monitor and highest i can go without feeling disgusted is 6x27.5 for games and 7x24 for videos, i think it is pretty good.

[@AncientGameplays]

Anything over x3 is too much for me

[@ArdaSReal]

7x is crazy

[@amy-295]

​@@AncientGameplayssame

[@ALIENiAM]

I recorded footage from different games with OBS with a 7800xt and i could only get rid of the framepacing bug by "just" disabling HAGS, that is also something they are working on because its a bug in the latest OBS Version. Works flawless with Hags enabled and Adrenaline Recording in the Background though. Lossless Scaling was the best investment i did 2024 :) i even bought it three times for my nephews and showed them how to use it. Now they can kill bugs and Automatons with 90fps(Base)/180fps(x2) fixxed on their 240hz screens :D and GPU Usage never going above 80%. Really awesome and easy to use tool if you are not playing competitive and need to squeeze every ms out of your input latency. Really like how you explain it in detail and make videos about it. If you tried it out once and made it work you can never go back.

[@Ahmed24-tt9ow]

Just tried it today. The artifacts are signifcantly reduced. Ghosting is still visible but only if you look hard enough.

[@AncientGameplays]

And if you don't have enough base fps

[@enzivlog6657]

Have u tried in alan wake 2?

[@littletweeter1327]

3.0 is practically flawless on Tarkov. Literally no more gpu usage and no artifacting that I’ve noticed. Really great update from LS devs. Fantastic on helldivers too

[@lolmao500]

Man you were sick AF yesterday, you had to be motivated to make a video that sick... good that youre better today!

[@AncientGameplays]

Slightly better yes

[@AMDRyzenEnthusiastGroup]

Great job, Fabio! We all have our sick days, I get it! Personally, I'm SUPER dumb when I'm not feeling well. lol

[@ivanvladimir0435]

You really should check out Lossless Scaling with two GPU's, it's a massive gamechanger considering it can be done with a budget GPU

[@Savitarax]

Why use 2 GPU’s ?

[@ivanvladimir0435]

@Savitarax It means no performance penalty from enabling lossless scaling, I do a before and after comparing them here kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXmWZmyQg92phM0

[@Jakiyyyyy]

Thanks for the review. This makes me want to reinstall the software again. Previously I wasn't so convinced on what it can do. But now maybe we can give it another chance to do better. 🤷🏻‍♀️🥴

[@matt-dw]

That major artefacting you got at 10x and 20x were mostly caused by the application being limited to somewhere around 200fps rather than the frame generation quality itself. I've seen that exact 'slurring' artefact happen whenever LSFG attempts to render more than a software-imposed frame rate cap. Also, yeah, sometimes it'll randomly cap the fps to some number that bears no relation to the monitor's refresh rate or anything like that, like what's happening with your LSFG being capped to something like 200fps, and I still don't know why.

[@AncientGameplays]

Yup

[@ArchDude2137]

The LSFG is capped, probably due to the "Sync mode" being set to "Default", instead of "Off (Allow tearing)" in Lossless Scaling.

[@RedactedBrainwaves2]

Along with some of the mistakes related to your tests, another one was that you said that LS requires the game to be on borderless windowed mode. Actually LS works fine on windowed mode as well, it doesn't have to be borderless. This might be relevant to some people who want to change their resolutions in game but some games don't allow to change resolution in borderless mode, only windowed mode for some reason.

[@JenovaGirzz]

I think he meant you just cant do fullscreen, most players play in fullscreen or borderless.

[@AncientGameplays]

I mean...nobody plays in windowed mode man...

[@RedactedBrainwaves2]

@@AncientGameplays When you use windowed mode and LS, LS fullscreens the game for you.

[@deus_nsf]

I believe x6, x10 and x20 doesn't work correctly because you would need a much higher monitor frequency. Other than that pretty good video! If I may recommend, using 50% resolution scale (or optical flow scale is more appropriate) still looks really good with a 4K target and runs much better, 100% is only recommended at 1080p honestly.

[@AncientGameplays]

The monitor doesn't matter here, I was many times above my refresh rate across this video. I might be wrong though

[@marcomarroquin8403]

X3 is enough for most people.

[@KillFrenzy96]

Actually, I believe it may not be working correctly because you are hitting 100% GPU usage. If there is not enough headroom for Lossless Scaling to do its work, then it may drop frames resulting in artifact and latency hell. When 6x, 10x, and 20x was enabled, the framerate counter also indicated that it did not reach the target (generated) framerate. This means that Lossless Scaling is dropping a lot of frames.

[@funguseaterAI]

This is a lifesaver if you are running the Lorerim modlist

[@machaoverlord5925]

We don't even need 5090 for this. This is crazy.

[@brettlivingston595]

Jerralt is tired of living in the shadows. He finally gets mentioned and you have the audacity to laugh. He will have his day.

[@garethperks7032]

I think your GPU hitting 100% might be why you aren't getting more generated frames. It's great that the frames are being generated on the GPU instead of CPU.

[@oocube3183]

Just when i needed it, thank you Fabio!

[@thevoid11223]

What you should do is to lower resolution to reduce GPU load because you gpu load is at 100 percent which is why the gpu cant generate more AI frames. I played fortnite capped at 60 fps 1440p, when i used 10x Frame gen. My fps decreased to 35 and i got 350 fps. I reduced resolution to decrease gpu load from 90% to 78% and i now have 600fps

[@AncientGameplays]

the GPU being at 100% is not the issue lol. I can run the GPU at 100% and 50 FPS and then double or triple the frames and it will still work

[@thevoid11223]

Bro. I just got 1000 fps using Lossless Scaling. Insanely warbley but still. 1000 is 1000fps lol

[@thevoid11223]

@@AncientGameplays Hey... u still there?

[@hatty101]

Glad you got better today!

[@junaidywijaya]

Nvidia launch rtx 5000 series : "Now we have x4 Frame Generation" LS : "huh, rookie number"

[@GregoryShtevensh]

I had no idea about this software man. Thank you for covering this

[@Dieverso]

Hello there ! One thing to mention... You can have the Beta version of Lossless Scalling which has new UI By going to Steam Library, then Lossless Scalling's Property and selecting Beta Program version as Beta

[@AncientGameplays]

I have a review version. Will test the beta

[@Snow-Order66]

I tried this version myself in Elden Ring and Dark Souls 3 since they are capped at 60FPS and using mods to unlock tbe framerate will mess up the game mechanics (for example running in slow motion). With Lossless Scaling I had a lot of artifacts even with 2x using version 2.1, but now with version 3.0 I can barely see any even in x4 (using a 240Hz screen) and the latency is reduced a lot I don't even notice, I can dodge any attack, it's truly a huge improvenent.

[@BULLWEST88]

Lossless Scaling is a must have. Marvel rivals I get 120ish frames on average, but with lossless scaling I get a solid 240hz.

[@alperen1383]

Dude isn't that an online game? Why would you want more latency in an online game? İsn't 120 hertz smooth enough?

[@alexmaldonado2804]

​@@alperen1383120hz feels kinda meh compared to 240hz, but I wonder how the latency compares

[@alperen1383]

@@alexmaldonado2804 dude it's all about your eyes getting adjusted. 120 hertz feels smooth as butter even 60 is good

[@alexmaldonado2804]

@@alperen1383 Yeah, if I look at 120hz for a while, especially my OLED, it looks pretty decent. But I say it looks choppy sometimes because when I drop straight from 360hz (my monitor) to 120 it looks laggy so I can get why the other guy would want 240hz smoothness

[@BULLWEST88]

@@alperen1383 I'm a competitive gamer and the input latency I really don't even feel it. as long as you lock your frames like in the video shows it has the same input lag as dlss. I would much rather play a fast past competivte game on 240hz than 120hz.

[@TOXYK]

GTX 1660 but 4070 Ti super Performance lets gooo

[@claritoresdiano1021]

Nice information it helps a lot to save my old GPU instead of bought a new stuff

[@ryanspencer6778]

You're running into the limit of what you can calculate with the x6 mode and above. If you tried it on a 4090 it would probably go a lot higher. Something interesting you could try is to use a second GPU (you don't need anything crazy) as your display out and LSFG calculation card and use the 7800xt to render the game. That will work and it should let you use FG both with little performance impact to the game and the full performance of FG without it having to compete with the game for resources. The more powerful the secondary card, the more intermediary frames it should be able to calculate. If my 4090's massive cooler didn't cover my second PCIe slot I'd try it myself.

[@p_serdiuk]

What do you mean by not anything crazy? What are the options?..

[@RonaldoxSiu]

@@p_serdiuk Probably something even like the gtx 750 would work, because it's fine to have it at 100% usage as long as it's the one doing the calculation, but preferably something like a 1050 or higher

[@arashidziurda2236]

looks like we all got 5090 early boys

[@theaudiocrat]

GPU makers hate him! One simple trick to keep your graphics h̶a̶r̶d̶ card!

[@maesde]

I tested and found the same, I think the frame generation impact is pretty massive if you are close to the max GPU output or using to high X levels of FG. Best case scenario remains a locked 60fps into X2 or X3. I found using 60FPS locked in Darktide Warhammer 40.000, X3 and my cap being 144hz, it works very well.

[@upgrade1373]

Well this is going to get crazy

[@AncientGameplays]

indeed haha

[@Ktulhu5000]

I didn't thought of you as of clown, because you haven't tested x20 mode in the last video. With the requirements of base 60 fps, it would generate 1200 fps, which none of the current monitors (at least flat ones, I don't know how CRTs rendered) can handle, including only announced at CES 2025 Koorui 700 Hz. But if you want to go mad, you can get/rent/ask sponsor for 600 Hz monitor to test scaling from the minimal base of 30 fps. Alternatively you can get your monitor to show custom resolution, up to 16K with special software, like DSR (if I remember correctly) and on some older less demanding title. Thanks for the videos!

[@name-e6u3h]

Do not lock from RTSS or driver app, it will increase input lag significantly. Lock FPS from in game engine instead.

[@AncientGameplays]

It has been proven several times that depending on the game, the in-game fps lock can actually have more input lag. And not all games let you lock fps to a specific number

[@fedrecedriz6868]

Wait really? I watched a video guide before for locking FPS, and it showed RTSS being the best one for frame time stability compared to in-game or gpu app fps lock.

[@Mikelicks9volts]

I use the amd adrenaline for mine

[@MateusBrandi]

RTSS has an option to override the default FPS Limiter implementation and use Nvidia Reflex instead. Not only that, the tool description says that this is the recommended option when limiting frames using Frame Generation, and it is even compatible with games that do not have native Reflex support. Which means that in addition to limiting FPS, this option also brings all the latency benefits of using Reflex. I believe this is an option exclusive to Nvidia cards, but still, you can't simply say that limiting FPS via RTSS is worse, because in these cases, RTSS is simply the best option.

[@name-e6u3h]

@@fedrecedriz6868 frame rate stability ≠ lower frame time

[@joxt500]

Always following your. Channel nice video Fabio!

[@Marzuku]

You need to turn off the sync mode or else it caps fps to around the monitor's refresh rate

[@AncientGameplays]

No it doesn't. My refresh rate is 138. It capped at 200-205

[@Marzuku]

@@AncientGameplays ah you're right, it might have something to do with the gpu usage then cuz it seems like it starts messing up when the gpu is at full capacity

[@ZykopathOfficial]

This video actually convinced me to try Lossless Scaling!

[@samserious1337]

10:44 with 10x its more like "Lost In Scaling"

[@JxsAdi]

Hi there, love your videos. I wanted to mention that you can select the beta version from steam launch setting and Lossless Scaling will be in version 3.0. Not sure if there is any difference but worth checking out!

[@Wloczykijbezkij]

What programm are you using for monitoring your ping?

[@AncientGameplays]

what ping?

[@sercankorkmaz83]

@@AncientGameplays he mean what is the program that monitors your fps, clocks, gpu usage, framerate latency and so on ? i am asking that aswell :D

[@kyrb5927]

MSI Afterburner guys

[@Wloczykijbezkij]

@@kyrb5927 Yeah i meant latency (ms) thank you

[@steven7297]

@@kyrb5927MSI afterburner doesn’t work with all those specs, literally %1 lows and frame graph never work

[@sam.avtaev]

great video! I was expecting something like "let's cap it at 3 fps so in 20x mode we'll get 60 fps" :DD

[@MetaViewNews]

Thank you Fabio! Lossless scaling or AFMF2?

[@AncientGameplays]

Ls generally

[@madez24]

Yes, I'm also interested.

[@madez24]

​@@AncientGameplayswhy exactly?

[@jamesFX3]

For input latency, AMFM2. For overall smoothness while in motion, Lossless Scaling.

[@WTF_9995]

Lossless Scaling works much worse for me than the built-in AFMF2. When using the x3 x4 mode in LS, the performance does not increase at all, and the picture is spoiled by x10, and in the x2 mode it makes 90 frames out of 60 at best, when AFMF2 makes stable 120 frames and spoils the picture less. I use 780m (7840hs).

[@UrExtremeGamer]

Btw, 30 or 40 fps can feel smooth in a game when you enable motion blur, the higher the intensity the smoother the game will feel and look. Trust me, I used to hate motion blur, but now i love it when I discovered this trick. It's the console experience, after all.

[@HarrySik]

Im testing this out soon. It looks pretty interesting to test, but is it better than frame generation and fsr3 on 7900xt

[@jamesFX3]

It's pretty decent, actually. The only downsides are the increased GPU load and slightly higher input latency compared to AMFM2 or in-game FSR3 FG. It's why most people recommend keeping your gpu usage around the 85-90% mark to reduce issues with lag/frame drops while running Lossless. Creator of Lossless also highly reccomends not using any other OSD's like Afterburner or Radeon Metrics as it sometimes interferes with LSFG FrameGen modes, just enable the draw FPS option in the Lossless settings instead to be able to see if Lossless is running properly. To reduce latency even further, you can set the sync mode in Lossless Scaling to 'Allow Tearing' and set the Max Frame Latency option to 3 (1 for nvidia GPU's, 3 for AMD gpu's). Set Capture mode to WGC if possible (lower latency but doesn't always work on some games) and DXGI if LSFG Frame gen isn't working with WGC. Always keep scaling type to off or FSR if your ever need the extra performance (not worth it tbh), and If you ever incounter an issue with the colors/brightness suddenly looking very dim or dark when enabling Lossless, it's probably because the HDR support was set to enabled in Lossless Scaling settings.

[@HarrySik]

@jamesFX3 Thanks for the info and that you took time to answer my question.

[@xosece]

Tested this app on 2D games from my Contra Anniversary Collection. Managed to get them to run at x10 without artifacts on my 165Hz monitor (more than that my monitor's refresh rate can0t keep up with so many extra frames). It locks at 165fps but the animation is muuuuuuch smoother, and the edges of the sprites look a lot less jagged. The motion clarity adds a lot of antialiasing. Lovely app, excellent for any game and for future hybrid handhelds with high refresh displays.

[@17pdietcoke59]

would like to see some wgc vs dxgi research for this app

[@mal-avcisi9783]

i scaled up from 2 fps to 240 fps. and 360p to 4k. everything perfektly fine. i can now play cyberpunk in 4k@240h with my 15 years oid pc. this is awesome.

[@luxemier]

7:40 that was a very attractive laugh i understand how you pulled that baddy now

[@AncientGameplays]

Hahaha

[@yfhtvumybygyyhhttyaykdjisk989]

Can you make a video with dual gpus. One renders the game and the other (old gpu) is used by lsfg? This will make the base fps not being reduced

[@skave7228]

5:40 Is Geralt left foot transparent or am I tripping ?!

[@AncientGameplays]

Dust in the boot

[@skave7228]

@@AncientGameplays Ho yeah makes sens