Re: "The Kawasaki KLR 650 is an AWFUL Motorcycle for Beginners!" What?!

I think the Kawasaki KLR 650 is a pretty good adventure motorcycle for beginners, and said so in my last video ( • Kawasaki KLR 650 Commo... ). However I got some messages from beginners who let me know they thought it was an AWFUL bike for beginners. Huh??? I explain why the KLR650 is a great motorcycle for beginners, but also address their valid claims that the KLR was a tough bike to learn on, especially for smaller riders.
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[@Broito]

I am a 21 year old female. 130 lb, 5'8" I have a gen 1 KLR650 and I love it. I was really scared of it at first, but it's so easy to ride. The only thing I do not love about it is the weight. I've walked it over uneven off road terrain and it's a fat pig to muscle around, and if it starts leaning you kind of just step away and let it go. But, it's a ton of fun to ride, we adjusted the rear suspension to my weight (took it all the way down as far as it could go) and even though I can't flat-foot it I still feel like I have fairly good control of it. The thing is an absolute blast, and even though I wouldn't want it for serious off-roading because of the weight, I love it for street riding, moderate highway (tops at ~90 with the gearing), and minor off-roading. Even in heavy wind on the highway the bike feels planted, because of the weight. For me, it is a great beginner bike (after being confident enough to not constantly be dropping it).

[@eveRide]

This is a PERFECT comment! Thanks so much!

[@tuliprhonda]

Do you ride alone or with a group? Do you pick it up on your own or get help? If you pick it up by yourself, what is your technique?

[@S1CKTR1CKY]

Tulip * When it goes down, sit on the ground against the seat. Hold the passenger handle and the handle bars. Then, using your legs only, push against the seat and upwards.

[@Broito]

Tulip * I prefer to ride with people, but I've been mostly riding by myself. The only times I've dropped the bike have been when I was parked, so there were always people around to help me pick it up. I was doing the normal way, where you put your back to it and lift with your knees, but that was never working for me. I did have a friend tell me a different way to try, but I haven't gotten a chance to practice that way at all. Something about turning the handlebars as far as they can go, holding onto the front brake, and rolling it up as you stand with it.

[@DavidHathaway]

This was my first dual sport, largely because it was cheap enough even new that I could live with dropping it. The cheapness continued into farkling, where the entire community is cheapskates; the aftermarket recognizes this and prices accordingly. Then I learned some basic off road skills, and found the KLR extremely forgiving. I wasn't sure I'd like offroading, so the KLR was perfect. Now I know that I love dual sports, and just invested in an Africa Twin, that lets me ride the 100s of miles to quality offroading.

[@PRTEVYBMW]

Super True my Brother! Great review and to the point:) Cheers;)

[@natachatumadre9684]

I´m a 60 year old, 5´7" woman and I ride a GS1200 (all the way down to Patagonia. I tried a friend´s KLR and must say in comparison with my big, fat BMW this Kawasaki is an offroad dream

[@FrederickCouch]

Your evaluation about the KLR was one of the reasons I got one. Great bikes!

[@enfieldnelly]

I'm a mid-40s fella, with complex PTSD that has left my cognition affected. The KLR is my first motorcycle, ever, after having attended a one week school here in Canada, and barely made it through. After practicing for a year, I passed my government road test with one recorded error. I am also 6', 210 lbs, but was nervous of the lowered CRF250s at the course, initially, so... My KLR is awesome as a first bike! SIMPLE, small, and if you ham fist the controls, it won't kill you. I call her "The Donkey"- Will putter around and get me anywhere. That said, I have yet to get it off pavement. One day. Variable traction terrifies me at present, but I will get there - slowly!

[@FastSloW-qt8xf]

Take it easy on dirt the front likes to wash out... these are do anything bikes. Have fun

[@janvanderwalt2207]

Good to hear you enjoy your KLR. take an easy gravel trip at low speeds just to get used to it. You will see its great offroad.

[@BSE1320]

Its a heavy bike. No doubt of that. Sits tall. Its not a one size fits all, not even one size fits most. Its cheap, it'll run, and its relatively easy to fix when something breaks. Thats a good mix for a new rider.

[@moriver1]

If your not short and have some strength it gets no better thsn a KLR to start out. They will no everything! I ride a bunch in Missouri but in the last year have done the Alpine Loop and Moab. I ride with two guys, one Africa Twin and a KTM 1190 Aventure R. For normal riding I am right beside them. keeping in mind "normal" for me includes Slick Rock, Fins and Things and Hells Revenge. The KLR is my tool of choice and its getting ready for Moab as we speak.

[@wangchung8771]

Where are these trails???? I live in Las Vegas and would love to check them out.

[@MrPepper312]

And it's so dang comfortable on long road trips.

[@Dirtpoorhomesteader]

I upgraded my rear suspension with a top gun stiffer spring. It was relatively easy. Just spring clamps is all that's really needed minus normal set of tools. Cost 130 altogether. Completely transformed the bike, it can handle heavy load without sag and is planted on pavement. I consider it the most enhancing farkle.

[@sammyscrap]

If you have experience riding smaller bikes off road the KLR is a nice bike to step up to. My advice to anyone who's never ridden dirt though would be to start with something smaller and lighter. Like you said in the video, you can always ride it for a season and sell it before moving up to something bigger. There are just so many fundamentals and enduro techniques that are much easier to learn on lighter, shorter bikes.

[@profighter1234]

35 inches being too high? Huh? I'm six feet and my knees are way bent when stopped with both feet down. And BTW, I'm a hung 10 inches and it doesn't even touch the gas tank while riding without "protective gear". Great bike!

[@stevegoyette4785]

KLR was my first Dual Sport. Loved it...definitely a gateway drug!!!

[@neilgerber7216]

Sold my H-D fatboy(i owned for 21 years) bought a KLR and love it ! Takes me back to my youth.

[@SwankyCatProductions]

I love mine more and more every day! I think it's a great beginner adventure bike, keyword, ADVENTURE bike. I think a lot of people expect it to be a motocross bike in the dirt and a crotch rocket on the pavement which just isn't realistic. The KLR isn't the best bike but in my opinion, it is the best mix of highway and dirt you can get for the money. Great video everide!

[@upstatebassing3437]

I'm actually going to buy one of these today! My only bike experience is when I took the course on a cheapo 250

[@livelongexploreoften6163]

Same here. Going from a cheap China 250 to a KLR 650 soon.

[@EachAdventure]

Awesome video man! I thought it was really cool for you to address both the good and bad parts of the KLR650. What I have learned after owning multiple bikes is that there is no "perfect bike" and with whatever motorcycle you choose there are going to be some trade offs. Learning how to deal with a bikes shortcomings are all part of the riding experience. Nice job!

[@CaliforniaDualSportRiders]

It seems to me that the KLR serves it's purpose as a beginner bike because it's a great in-between for those that will eventually decide on going to a heavier, more expensive ADV bike or to a lighter weight dual sport/ enduro... it's a good jumping off point to decide what type of adventure you like most! Mine was my first bike that could go off-road and I have very fond memories of it!

[@EightUp000]

I dropped mine at a stop sign like last week 💀

[@sergiogomez7795]

Is heavy??

[@Ba-Lak-Ee]

@@sergiogomez7795 432 lb wet weight.

[@cakeshoe]

Another great video....and nice drone work, too :) I'm not disagreeing with you, Mr. Everide, or anyone else for that matter, but I have always considered a 'beginner' to be someone who is still learning how to ride and control a motorcycle. Therefore, in my humble opinion, I would always recommend a bike of around 250cc or less to be ideal for beginners. Easier to control, easier to pick up, can often be cheaper and a bit easier to maintain, etc. And that's just for road riding! If someone wants to get into off-road riding, then it is their own personal riding skill and confidence that they should work on (not necessarily the bike that they should be upgrading). In an ideal world, learning how to balance and go dead slow on a trials bike would give any rider a huge head-start in understanding the fundamentals. Then they could transfer those skills onto a slightly bigger bike before moving onto the weight and power of, what I call, an "intermediate" bike like a KLR, DR650, etc. Having said all that, I admit that the learning curve I described is "ideal" and most people just want a quick fix, plug & play, instantaneous satisfaction (or they lack the time and money, of course). Yet, I wonder how many ADV riders who ride big bikes could actually handle a tiny trials bike well (not 'expertly', but just well). Maybe that's something for you to consider while the bumtato recovery is on-going..... I mean: there isn't even a seat to sit down on with a trials bike, right?

[@osimnod]

Another excellent response, like from "And Bro" above. I'm one who has limited time to ride (Sunday only) and had to quickly recognize my lack of off-road skills despite 10 years of street riding. Served myself a slice of humble pie, found a 1986 Honda TLR 200 vintage trials bike and it is a hoot. Crawling at idle in 1st gear, doing figure-8s, learning counter-balancing have helped me gain much confidence for a DR 350 and 640 ADV upgrade on trail riding.

[@jbodden6977]

bikes never make mistakes. it is always pilot error.

[@-AZ.TRAC-]

I am a 17ur old dude and the 2004 old 650 was perfect in my opinion. I love it! Definitely kind of an acquired taste

[@motomookie8032]

Great video!! The selling point for me was the seat and the tank. Soooo comfortable ☺️☺️ and I can ride for miles and miles...plus I do all the work myself just not the valves 🤗

[@tylerdurden9748]

I WANT NAMES! GIVE ME THE NAMES OF THE HEATHENS THAT DARE SPEAK ILL OF THE BELOVED KLR650

[@chiefenumclaw7960]

I ride a Briggs & Stratton.

[@josecortez5213]

I ride a Tecumseh.

[@MrAusadventure]

KLR, DR650, DRZ, you can't go too wrong I reckon. Short riders are always going to be disadvantaged on off road bikes, no matter what the bike. The thing is, in terms of adventure riding, there is no perfect bike. There is always a weigh off in that ever confusing balance between dirt and bitumen. Great well though out video as usual mate.

[@xpandax1993]

Dropped mine cause I thought the kickstand was down 😂💀

[@clehmann24789]

best klr 650 footage I have seen! great video! I love my klr and have no problem at all handling it on or off road. I am 5'8 140lbs. I have even taken it on some pretty rocky treacherous single track trails with my girlfriend on the back. keep your speed steady, never stop looking for your line and don't think "oh shit" until after you pass your obstacle haha.

[@ajwuthrich1084]

Where was this filmed? I want to ride those trails!

[@MarylandWearAndCarry]

Nobody ever mentions the TW200 as a decent beginner dual sport. It was the only bike my wife was comfortable standing over so thats what we got. Great utilitarian bike with a suspension that is easy to understand and setup even though it doesn't offer great travel. If the Jeep Wrangler had a baby it would be a TW200. Excellent starter bike!

[@xCRO3x]

david chilton both tw200 and xt250 are great starter bikes. Just keep them for fun when it is time to move up.

[@MarylandWearAndCarry]

Exactly, and leaves you with an inexpensive loaner bike that won't have you teary eyed when a buddy lays it down. haha

[@MarylandWearAndCarry]

I agree and would choose the same two steeds if income was disposable and my stable had room for two. However in my opinion a four stroke thumper's a four stroke thumper, a pig's a pig and cheap dual sports aren't all created equal nor do they all make the best beginner bike. Us poor folk usually make do with what we can afford and enjoy it though. Respect

[@MarylandWearAndCarry]

Heat stoke is real and pigs don't sweat. Have fun pickin up those KLR's boys and girls.

[@xCRO3x]

david chilton Thts why deadlifts were invented. Ha

[@md123420]

low profile drain plug!!!!

[@minitstop]

Heh, seat height. I tip toe ONE side of my WRR's and I still ride them like an employee of the month assistant manager!

[@xCRO3x]

Same here. One toe stop lights for me.

[@minitstop]

The struggle when it's windy :p

[@burneraccounthandle]

got a klr as my first bike, wishing i got a drz or something similar. this thing is just so damn heavy

[@bob.jacobsen360]

Hi Erveride. Have you had the opportunity to try the Husqvarna 701enduro? What's your thought on the bike as an ADV?

[@tward349]

I ride a 690 enduro and it's the bomb. I was planning to get a KLR but I'm a more experienced rider and a big guy and the KLR's power was way too low for me. But if budget is an issue, a KLR is fantastic and would take me to the same places.

[@jessaphillips2846]

aren't the 701 enduro and 690 enduro the same bike basically? I know they're both ktm/husky products and use the same engine, I just don't remember if they're mechanically identical or just use the same engine

[@DearMajesty]

it's largely the same as the 690, no? He reviewed the 690, but it was clearly a 1st gen, which was riddled with endless issues and you should NOT consider ever owning.

[@ZSharkPH]

I went from a KLR 650 to a KTM 690. It was a great decision for me. About 100lbs less and double the horse. A lot more money though. It really comes down to what kind of riding you do. I feel the 690 can get a bit heavy at times off road even though it weighs a lot less than the KLR. . But I'm setting it up for a long distance adventure bike. So thats why I have a light weight 2 stroke for gnarly stuff.

[@christopherdobbins5123]

lifting my xr650l is the way i get exercise lol

[@greencondoresq]

I'm 5'11" and started on a KLR650, which I still ride. One thing I love about it, it's so versatile. Right now, I've got it set up for more road riding since I use it as my commuter (e.g., 16t, road tires), but I know that if I ever get a dedicated road bike, I can swap everything out and make it more dirt-worthy. It's a tinkerer's bike, from the doohickey to the thermobob to trying to coax some more ponies out of the engine. It's made for people who look at a bike as never finished.

[@samuelhearne8488]

Might be because I am 6'2" but I find the KLR perfect for my height. Not attacking your point just tossing that out there for those over 6 foot.

[@grizzlyboy7473]

Samuel Hearne yea I’m 6’2 as well and around 170 pounds and I just turned 16 and I’ve been riding the klr for three months now, just got a a part called a doohickey I’ll be putting that in sometime this week 🤙🏼 (and yes there really is a part called the doohickey)

[@kojack635]

I'm 6'4" and I'm interested in buying one soon

[@grizzlyboy7473]

Kojack do it you won’t regret it it’s such a fun bike man they last forever too, legit tanks

[@realcolbyadams]

Im 6'0" 250 lbs. and never owned anything bigger than a 450, now that I'm in my 40's and want a dual sport on/off road bike what do you recommend ?

[@realcolbyadams]

I bought a 2006 KLR and Love it !!! #rideon #everide

[@dstubby82]

DRZ400 is also an excellent choice. :)

[@shannonscott5709]

I loved my gen 1 KLR, I'm not a fan of the newer version as it looks bulbous to me. I much prefer the teal, purple, and puke blue colors of the early 90's KLRs. Your Mavic Pro (drone) work is REALLY getting great, you've always been good but you are really getting excellent with it. Get that FAA part 107 certification and you could do side work as pro drone guy.

[@motorcyclemichaeladv4531]

Great Video. You've got the KLR nailed down in this evaluation. I agree with everything. I am 6'4" so height wasn't a problem for me, in fact it was a plus. The suspension is a little soft, but after adding progressive springs to the front fork and a 7.4kg/mm spring to the rear shock from Top Gun Shocks that problem was pretty easily and cheaply ($90.00 each) resolved and is even better then I thought it was when I first got the KLR. Thanks for all the vids!

[@ChezSheila]

Okay... 5'9" female here. The KLR650 is my first bike and it was a brutal cage match for about 2K miles even after I lowered it 2 inches. Then something clicked and we began to become friends. At 4K miles I was pretty much in charge - on pavement. I ride in Mexico a lot and my KLR is great for getting me to Ensenada from San Diego and I am now easing into well-worn dirt roads in Mexican wine country. Truth be told I would really prefer a much lighter bike to do the kind of riding that most of these videos are showing but after taming this beast I feel like a lighter bike would be a cake walk.

[@offroadvehiclelover]

ChezSheila so you "tamed" the "beast" i want to see some knee knockers, arm drag, sit down, both feet on the seat wheelies.

[@anthonybaiocchi3028]

ChezSheila if you can handle an extra inch in height and are looking for an upgrade try getting a chance to ride an XR650R for a day. They are taller but much lighter and although they are kick start they are actually really easy to kick over. Check out the hype about the BRP's, it's all true.

[@BIOHAZARDCURE]

Man, I want a dual sport soooooooooo baaaaaad. I'm riding one in my MSF course and it's so much fun.

[@davidmilam1908]

I moved to Oregon 3 years ago, had never been on a dual sport motorcycle prior, I purchased a 2008 KLR 650 with 11,000 mileson it, took a course with team oregon on a tw200 and started riding my KLR after passing the course. I personally feel it has been a great bike for me as a beginner and put over 7,000 miles on it both on and off road. I added many farkles myself and do all maintenance which save lots of money. To me it is the best bang for the buck and is a great dual sport for my kind of riding. Everide thanks for the great videos you produce and for inspiring me to get out and explore the world of ADV. I am hooked!

[@1bigimpact]

i like that it sounds sluggish , i dont want to be tempted to go 1000 mph

[@outdoorsnomad]

Well said. I'm 5'6 and manage mine at stock height.

[@ryangotsch3670]

LOVE my 2018 klr!!!! Can’t imagine there’s a Better bike fir me!

[@alanwmg]

BEST KZbin CHANNEL EVER. ( WATCHING FROM BRAZIL)

[@rctjacksonville]

Great Vid,help me make up my mind to buy a KLR,thanks!

[@Hansengineering]

I am 100% over short people's gripes. A PLETHORA OF BIKES ARE MADE JUST FOR YOU! Go find one and stop pissing about bikes you can't ride. I don't troll around Grom videos bitching the bike is too small for me to ride safely!

[@690ADV]

awesome, can't wait for the next vid! keep them going.

[@ToriMoto]

Good video Tyler. I had a KLR250 when I was a teenager. I abused that bike and loved that bike. I didn't know anything about bike maintenance back in those days. I took it everywhere. Getting back into riding a few years ago, I thought bigger would be better, so I opted for a 650cc also. It was a wonderful bike in many ways, but also very limiting. I couldn't tackle the terrain I wanted to with confidence. I found moving from a heavy bike to a lighter bike a great move. I'm now riding a Beta 300RR and it isn't intimidating at all, I can pick it up all day with ease, and the weight doesn't get me into trouble on technical riding like the 650 used to. Your points are good ones re : cost/ease of maintenance/parts etc. But, for new riders to the sport I'd still recommend they learn on a much lighter machine and get their skills up. They can then decide if they want to move on to heavier 'adventure pigs' or keep riding lighter enduro/DS machines. I realize it's all a personal journey, and I commend you for your informative videos. Cheers ;)

[@temucanox9964]

i started on a klr just like the one on the video. and if your thinking about getting one. do it. won't regret it. he is right about the height too.very nice video

[@sun6v546]

Liked That Button. Good and honest opinion of my Next KLR650 . Did you say , they stopped production after 30 yrs. Here theres an advt of KLR650E 2021, what ......................... !!!!!!!!!!!

[@TeflonTrout]

Hi! The suspension concerns you mentioned aren't that hard or expensive to fix. Progressive suspension makes a fantastic spring set for the front forks that costs about $85. It took me an hour to install working very slowly, but was a very, very easy job. It's easily the best bang-for-buck upgrade on the KLR, it solved nearly every suspension related complaint I had. As always, great video, and man- what a great use of the drone!

[@buckeyebeliever3397]

After 3 years this video is still helping people! I’m getting my motorcycle endorsement tomorrow so I can finally buy the KLR 650 I’ve been oogling at online and go adventure camping!!

[@bmylesk]

will the next series lile the last 2 vids be on the drz400? would love to see this.

[@flywire76]

Great vid. I’m currently trying to decide between adv or dual sport for mix of two up road and light off road trips.

[@jwright0729]

The KLR is an excellent bike for the hard working individual who just wants reliability and fun! To many people worry about their status and what people think that they forget all about having fun. And to me, dropping a $20k plus machine isnt my idea of fun! But it's whatever your into! I would much rather ride a drz400 but a KLR fits my current situation.

[@dirtymofo2629]

DR man....had KLR... top heavy and terrible for dirt.....I'm 6'5" 250 ....Add a bigger tank and windscreen to the DR....

[@mattgotsskill]

im 6'0 , 240 lbs , would a klr 650 be a good fit for me? (also a new rider, my only experience is with mopeds)

[@dacotahglenn5331]

I have a KLR and i love it, but i am also a 6'2 male. I think with the KLR and almost all bikes is its personal preference on whats good or good for beginners. Some people will love a bike while others absolutely hate it. THATS OK! Not every single person has to love the bike you ride or have the same opinion on whats a good motorcycle. I think any bike, as long as you can carry the weight is decent enough to begin riding. Obviously a GS-1200 or something might not be great to learn on. So if you love or hate the klr thats totally fine, but if someone has a different opinion don' t go bashing them. Just be happy they are out riding and enjoying ADVR too.

[@beejaytee]

Can we see a dualsport/adv camping on a budget vid? How much space you need for XYZ items for 1-4 days, 5-10 days and 10+. Stuff for minimalist/lightweight dualsport vs bid adv. Heal up and get out there. 😎

[@walteranthonyocon6768]

Maybe start out on a DR200, cheap, light, under powered, it will make you want a 650. I don't know, just an idea.

[@Millermacs]

Agreed

[@jessaphillips2846]

I am indifferent towards the klr, don't own one, have never ridden one. This is my opinion on the bike as someone who has spent over a year researching motorcycles in multiple segments from sport bikes to dual sports to cruisers to scooters to adv's. I think the KLR, even with its issues, is a good starter adv bike. yeah, its heavy, but go try riding a triumph tiger 800 or ktm 1290 adenture. its not powerful but there are people riding around on 9 horsepower Groms and 30 hp sport bikes like the r3. the bike has great torque, which should be its selling point. you can tractor this thing over any terrain in any weather. it has its issues, but you can't deny the simplicity of the bike meaning you can carry simple hand tools and a little extra gas and literally ride the bike anywhere and know it'll get you back. as far as upgrades, yeah of course you'll need to upgrade the bike to do heavy duty off roading, that's par for the course with a bike at this price point. you can't spend $6700 on a bike and expect it to be just as capable as that $12k tiger 800 or $20k Ducati Multistrada out of the box.

[@GunFunZS]

You have to throw parts at those other bikes you named too to get them comparably up armored.

[@mrvwbug4423]

The KTM is ready to go anywhere right out of the box, it is also expensive (17k for the 1290 ADV and 14k for the 1090 ADV) and has WAY too much power for a new rider, it is also 100lbs heavier than a KLR so you need some skill to use the KTMs to their potential. The Triumph needs some aftermarket help to do any real off-road riding. If I were looking for a first ADV bike I would definitely look at a used KLR (or DR650 or XR650 or DRZ400), but once I wanted to upgrade I would probably consider something like a Honda Africa Twin or KTM 1090 ADV both of which need no aftermarket help.

[@jessaphillips2846]

Paul Hitchings I'm really not sure. I have a Taotao 50cc scooter for now (I bought it specifically to do what I'm doing, modify it to learn to wrench on a bike without a lot of money invested- so far it's got a 80cc big bore kit, upgraded carburetor and I got a few more parts coming) I have the problem of not knowing what type of riding I'll want to do, so probably going to get a cheap dual sport so I can experience a little of everything first and make a decision. I'm thinking either a TW200 or DR200s would be a great place to start... my mom had a TW in the 90's so I would probably lean more that way. I don't do any highways above 65 mph so top speed isn't an issue.

[@poohgeorge706]

Do you have an opinion about the Honda crf250 rally. I've owned sportbikes but want to get into adv riding and value your opinion.

[@lifewithlurch5489]

Whosever bike that is going up the sand hill, it sounds epic.

[@byronlangerman4468]

I love mine, and coming from a bike that weighs 200 lbs more it feels great! Got a sweet deal for a 1999 with 10,409 miles on it for $1500 with only a broken kickstand sensor. Not much offroad around me, but there are cities and abandoned lots/buildings and riding it there is a lot of fun. I plan on keeping it till the engine dies, and then, maybe, convert it over to electric. Your videos also set my decision in stone to get the KLR that I have now, thanks for that.

[@onerider808]

Love my KLR. It ain’t no KLX with a cam, carb, and pipes, and it has less ground clearance than my Sportster and FXR (Harleys), but it sure is a surefooted, dependable mule. It ain’t a stallion and if you’re looking for one, you’ll be dissapointed. If you’re looking for a good mule that can go almost anywhere, you’ll love it.

[@bobsullivan5714]

My "starter bike" was a 1964 Honda 90. It had leading link front suspension, pressed metal forks and frame, weighed 176 lbs. and made, theoretically, 7 HP. It had a top speed that was way faster than I could run. I thrashed, bashed, mashed and crashed that bike all the time. It thrashed, bashed, mashed and crashed me right back. We got along fine. I was 14 and the Honda was 2 when we met. My second bike was a Harley XLCH with straight pipes and a magneto. The thing was a bitch to kick start and a butt-numbing vibrator to ride....But when you cracked the throttle, it was enough to make a blind man see! I loved it! I have owned 4 Harleys, a BMW RT1150 and more 'ricers' than I can count......................The KLR IS MY FAVORITE, no contest. It is the pure essential motorcycle.

[@talkstory-andukulele-trave426]

I'm a pretty advanced rider and owned two Suzuki Vstroms (a 650 and a 1000). The 650 was the WAY superior bike off-road (highway riding is a completely different animal, entirely), and really similar to the KLR in this video. For the money, you can't beat either brand to get you into ADV riding without having to spend mega bucks for a BMW or KTM. I now ride a Ducati Desert Sled, which is somewhere in-between (found one for 8500 on Craigslist), and better off-road than any of these options; however, it's obviously on the expensive side and service costs are INSANE, so if you're not able to afford such extravagance, stick with a KLR or Vstrom. The height thing is only an issue when you start and, in my opinion, becomes something DESIRE ABLE the more you get used to it.

[@ln6964]

lol! That comment about the community being loyal is no joke. I had a friend suggest a KLR650 over another bike I was looking at as a good beginner bike and I got back to him and said I didn't like it when I went to ride it; I'm a large guy and it just felt sluggish and I didn't care for it. But again, I'm 6'3" and 290. So, I'm not the average size person. But man, I've never seen this guy lose his poise and bearing, but he did. What! Did you not like about it? Then I went through the list. The man looked noticeably hurt. It was like he personally attacked. Now I know why.

[@DarkDove3]

5'6" Male 140Lbs, and I rode a Suzuki DL650, 33" was too high for me as a beginner. But I wanted one. And first thing I did after buying the sucker used from a dealer was strap on crash bars. Because I dropped it not 45 minutes after that...and an hour after that, and 10 minutes after that. They were all doing things I probably should have at the time, trying to walk it backwards while turning, trying to pull out from a stop sign like a car (super slowly), etc. Boy did I love the thing. Tired myself picking it up time and time again, even on the pavement. I put a lowering link in, dropping it an inch of height, and at 32", I could find it more reasonable to operate. However, I still feel its not for me. This year has been the year of smaller displacement bikes and I feel like the Kawasaki Versys x300 is going to be a fantastic bike and I can't wait to see the market for it grow. Its smaller in height, larger in fuel capacity, and has a larger bore size to most of its competitors. I think its exactly what smaller than 5'10" people really need to get the hang of riding these dual/ADV bikes, while still being priced reasonable and allowing a lot of fun out and around.

[@JakeAikens]

Dropping the bike is part of ADV riding. If you're not ok with that then ADV riding isn't for you. Beginners routinely make TERRIBLE choices about what their first bike should be. The idea that we're letting the beginners dictate what a good bike is seems a little rediculous. Get some advice, ask questions and spend some time with the bike at the dealership. Then make a decision. Don't let your assumptions about riding cloud your decision making. Also you can't have a 19" tall bike with 20" of ground clearance. If that's the only way you're going to feel comfortable I'm afraid it might be time to look for a new hobby.

[@bakerzach17]

Great input, very helpful in my research. been researching the KLR650 for a few weeks now, definitely leaning towards getting one. Thanks for the videos!

[@flyingmerkel6]

It can't tour like a Goldwing, can't offroad like a KX450, can't handle like a CBR600- must be crap. The KLR does have it's flaws, but it can do everything reasonably well at an unbeatable price. I borrowed a friend's KLR and was impressed at what it could do.

[@jakobbasham5907]

Got mine for 1200 bucks which means no depreciation, I went from a 127cc scooter to the KLR650. I am 5'10" and the first think I did was lowering links but a month later I switched back, been a great bike for me. But my bro-in-law says he thinks its too big for him.

[@MindBodySoulOk]

Low cost? Wow I just got one after waiting since 1988 because even used it's an expensive bike. I have never seen one of these bikes used under 4k with less than 10k miles. I finally said screw it and paid 4.3k for one with 3.5k miles. (Ok I'm cheap and comparing this to other sub 4k used bikes and you can get a used 1200 sportster with low miles all day long under 3.5k)

[@erickdorsey556]

I just bought 2009 klr with 3303 miles, I grew up on sportbikes and still have mine, I will give my opinion, I wanted a duel sport bike, when I rode my brother's duel sport.

[@ADVF800GS]

I am a true lover of the KLR, I had a 99 1st gen that I sold an I hated myself for it and couldn’t stop thinking of how versatile it was, sure they are not super fast on the highway but even in my truck I do t normally drive over 70-75 just because I’m not in a hurry and on a bike especially an adventure bike I believe it’s about the ride and enjoying the freedom and I’m definitely not in a hurry, I recently bought a 2nd gen 09 KLR and absolutely love my bike, regeared from a 43 tooth rear sprocket to a 38 tooth now at 75 I’m at 4500rpm and it feels great, your videos of the KLR are great, please keep making more.

[@ViZ_FFA]

There aren't many videos on the KLX250, I think that if you found someone local with one that it would make for a great video. they just came out with a Fuel Injected 2018 model for the US, and the camo edition is sick! Check mine out on my instagram @6.2boostedSRT I have been watching your videos for a while now and love your camera quality. Thanks for taking all the time you put in for these videos, as it is very much appreciated!!

[@twowheelsdown2002]

I think the DR 650 is better, because it has a lower seat height, lower weight, and lower center of gravity. And is very easy to lower. And it simply has a better motor. I owned the DR, KLR, and XRL. The DR had the best motor hands down. The XRL was super torquey, but falls flat after 70mph. The KLR is close to the DR, but at 75 it is buzzy, and the DR is more comfortable with humming along at 75 and 80 then the KLR is. Also, If you want to blast past a semi, the DR has no problem doing a quick blast up to 100mph. The KLR and XRL feel like you are flogging them when you do this. The DR feels smooth while doing it. The DR is the most stable passing semi trucks as well. On dirt roads, the XRL is twitchy as hell at 70. The KLR headshakes at about 75 and makes you want to back off(wimpy fork) The DR will go as fast as you dare. It is stable at 75 on dirt roads. I passed a Toyota truck on a dirt road, and was going almost 90 when I went past, with no problem. The XRL is very top heavy. The KLR is tall, top heavy, and just plain the heaviest. The DR has the lowest center of mass, and can be drifted well off road. Valves on the DR can be adjusted and don't require getting shims. People say the KLR is the best street bike. Bullshit! It just has the most street stuff on it. Put a seat on the DR and bigger tank, and it kicks the KLR's ass on the street. More stable, smoother at 80mph, and handles better. If I buy one again it would be the DR. The XRL is just a dog above 70 and that just kills it for me, it's tiny edge in suspension does not make up for the motor that falls on its face. The KLR is okay on the street, but is waaaaaay too heavy off road. Then on road it simply does not run at 75 and 80 as effortlessly as the DR.

[@coldee785]

I'm watching this after putting my KLR away from this seasons first ride...to the car wash lol. I spent the last month, and $500 CAD on re-springing the rear and front. I'm not going to say it was easy, but with a little patience. And a few tools, I did everything myself save recharging the nitrogen in the rear shock. The Race Tech website is an indispensable resource along with KZbin. The OEM spring is for a 160lb rider. So re-springing it to handle a 230lb (with gear) rider has transformed it into an entirely new beast. You can't make it lighter, but you can make it handle better! I'm open to any questions any KLR rider has, and I cannot recommend this upgrade enough. It's no question worth the time and money. Let me point you in the right direction to get it done!

[@streetgangtm]

I have a Harley Sportster, had a Buell 1125R, and have a 2015 KLR 650 that I have put over 20,000 miles on. The KLR was and is my foray into the world of dirt and adventure riding. I have seen places I would never be able to see on those bikes and ride my Harley so little these past 2 years that it barely starts because I don't live in a place where I can use a battery tender. The KLR is the least powerful bike I have owned yet it brings the most joy by far. I hang off and chase sport bikes up mountains scraping pegs, then go down dirt trails where they couldn't dream despite getting passed by people on much lighter dual sports. The I have more miles on the KLR than both of my other bikes combined because it's simple design, low maintenance, and versatility made me WANT to ride it more than I've ever rode anything before.

[@JoshSinnott97]

That last sentence.. thank you I've been weighing up a crf300 rally or a klr650 for the longest time. I'm a beginner but my gut is telling me to go the crf purely for the weight. The last thing I want is a bike that's too heavy that stops me getting into the sport It's a very tough choice though

[@ronaldramsey7774]

Although very reliable they are WAY too heavy and clunky for any rider. I don't understand why anyone would want one when there are some great alternatives. DR's, XR's, KTM, Yamy's, etc.

[@envyit112]

KLRS are the best bike to learn on... it is heavy enough you have to use proper techniques to control it in the Trails. once you master the KLR 650 you can ride anything anywhere....#check my videos

[@banburylitho4068]

There’s nothing worse than the feeling of riding a dirt bike many, many miles away from home and it starts “playing up”.. I’ve experienced this many times on a few two stroke crossers and its still makes me feel queasy.. the KLR is a strong super reliable brute.. I’m 6ft 4” and can handle its but its heavy so if its falling sometimes I can’t catch it.. the best bit, if I drop it (down a slope) I know it’ll start first go, every time meaning I won’t have to sleep under the stars or get eaten by an angry bear way out in the forest.. its a GREAT BIKE

[@chaindriven6464]

Every bike is a shade of grey. If you know the perfect bike let me know. Light weight. Tones of power. Reliable. Great on street. Great on dirt. No bike can do that so find the bike with the compromises your willing to live with and the perks you love. I wound up owning four bikes. One street only. One adventure. One off road 4 stroke and one 2 stroke dirt/woods king.

[@tomvana4270]

Original owner of a 2005 with 50,000 mi. Still have the original dohicky but I adjust it with a torque wrench every oil change. Make sure you keep you shims in spec or you will burn valves. Shes terrible in sand and mud but pulls her weight on the highway. Overall can't complain it gets me wherever I want to go.

[@michelvanwerven2290]

I like you way of looking to a KLR. I only like the first gen., the 500 if I'm correct. Looks more like dirt bike, less plastics to break. Personally I see it as a fat pig. But I realize that I'm not a adv-er and no beginner anymore. I think (nearly) every bike can be a good beginner bike. Depending on rider. Just get any one and ride the wheels off her. Enjoy.

[@mrvwbug4423]

KLRs are nice because they are cheap, reliable, forgiving for new riders and have a huge aftermarket. They do have all the same issues as any ADV bike for short riders though at 430lbs they aren't nearly as heavy as a typical big bore ADV bike (where they are universally all over 500lbs, even the KTMs).

[@MuppetVT]

Lol yeah, I’m 5’10”, 120 lbs, and the KLR is the perfect bike for me. I don’t need something fancy or flashy or pristine. I need some thing cheap, built like a tank, that I can have fun on and not care about messing up. And that’s the KLR

[@jameswalt6514]

Every bike design is a compromise. We can talk about quality objectively, but everything else is about which plusses and minuses appeal to you. More ground clearance is gonna mean higher ride height, and lighter weight will mean fewer features (or higher cost).

[@taxus750]

I got here by way of a couple of other vids about off road bikes and novices and what have you. I've done a lot (and I mean a LOT) of road riding and a small amount off-road, so take this with as much salt as you need. But you are right about one thing - there are plenty of times when being on a bike with some weight in it helps an awful lot. Assuming the mass is down low, a heavier bike will track better than a flyweight, will ride bumps and weird cambers better, and will be a lot less fidgety (and thus less stressful). Yes, a heavier bike will be an absolute pig to lift when you inevitably drop it, but its benefits outweigh the occasional struggle. No, I am **not** recommending everyone go out and buy an R1200GS, far from it - just get something that you can handle that has a bit of mass to it that won't fall over the moment a slight breeze turns up.

[@kingklr1]

Go ride a KTM 1190 adventure R for a couple thousand miles. Then throw a leg on a klr and you will never complaint about seat height and weight. My KLR feels now like a 450 after riding my KTM. I guess everything is relative.

[@DleeJable]

Well people have an opinion as always. But i never had any type of motorcycle. I bought a KLR 650 at 31 years of age and haven't had a problem with it. I find driving any other bike quite easy now. Just another opinion i suppose. Great videos.

[@matthieucharest9005]

Poor dude who bought this guy's klr... 2-3 years without oil change and air filter cleaning... 🤦‍♂️

[@seanc8054]

i wonder why these people bought a klr 650 even though they didnt fit on it? is this normal? i wont have any of these issues because i'm 6'4", but my issues will be all different, such as being 41 years old and never so much as sat on a motorcycle before, but i have this nagging feelings constantly in the back of my head, ive never done anything really, my life feels empty it's not bad or anything, i just find myself missing something and i dunno what it is, when i watch these adventure bike videos though it make sme really want to give this a go. im fairly certain i will get a klr 650

[@geraldscott9446]

By far the biggest problem with the KLR for beginners, shorter people, or people like me, with lots of experience but severe arthritis. I used to ride a KLR. Now I can't even get on one. I now ride an XT225. And it is all I can do to get my leg over the seat. I've actually bought a couple of old beat up street bikes to ride on dirt roads and smooth trails, because I can safely get on and off of them. If the KLR had a 4" lower seat height, it would be so much easier to ride.

[@wadeguidry6675]

I'm experienced 6 foot male, but only weigh 160 pounds. KLR 450 is much better in dirt for me, yet 650 is better on HWY near big trucks.

[@trentnunley6161]

Affordable, tough, good power,comfortable but it is a bit top heavy. Love my gen 1