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@user-silentnight12347 ай бұрын
miles being spiderman isn’t even a debate anymore its just coping
@AngelusNielson7 ай бұрын
Spider-Man. Think of the hyphen as his web...
@kijanajenkins25467 ай бұрын
@@AngelusNielsonRespect hyphen. 🕷️⚡
@Yourfat2473 ай бұрын
Fr, I don’t how people still deny it
@JustAnotherRyanHere7 ай бұрын
I searched up ‘Stan Lee anyone can be Spider-Man.’ And Stan literally said in a video that Spidey can be any race. And the fact that Spider-Man is all covered up means he can be imagined as anybody. Miles has his own supporting characters, additional powers and unique suits. And the dynamic between Peter and Miles is also pretty good too when done right.
@gwit40517 ай бұрын
People are really quick to forget that a lot of superheroes are symbols, symbols that remain symbols no matter who is under the mask.
@JustAnotherRyanHere7 ай бұрын
@@gwit4051 (Sorry for making this so long, edited to space out the words). That’s true anyone could’ve been bitten by the spider and chose to wear a mask. But not everyone would accept the responsibility of being a hero or accept the burden that comes with creating or having that symbol granted to them. Maybe they’d abuse the power and symbol given to them. But the heroes we look up chose to use their powers in acts of selflessness. But it is true anyone can be a hero and embody the symbol of one if they’re willing to accept the responsibility and not abuse their power(s).
@CrocsFortress7 ай бұрын
I prefer Peter but Miles is also pretty cool too. They both are Spider-Men in my book.
@bushmanstudios24907 ай бұрын
W
@kijanajenkins25467 ай бұрын
Agreed 🕷️🕷️
@mj_youtube7 ай бұрын
DJ Khaled “ANOTHER ONE”
@dariusporter3587 ай бұрын
As someone who prefers Peter, second favorite superhero after The Flash, I don’t understand how people can hate Miles. It’s very possible to like both. They are both Spider-Men and are both great Spider-Men.
@JunTekuTheEngima7 ай бұрын
It's because miles doesn't bring anything interesting to the table. The only constant aspect of his character across the comics,movies, and games is to get out of the shadow of peter. His character has existed for a a little over a decade and still suffers from this character trait, not to mention he started out a basically a peter parker race swap.
@Invisibleboy9996 ай бұрын
@@JunTekuTheEngima”started out as a peter parker race swap” no tf he didnt he was completely different from peter. He wasnt a nerd like peter, he had both parents unlike peter, his uncle was a supervillain unlike peter, he was younger then when peter started out etc. hes was never a race swap peter
@JunTekuTheEngima6 ай бұрын
@@Invisibleboy999 both characters lose an uncle or a father figure in their life, both have a best friend that becomes a villian, both date a version of Gwen Stacy, both characters joke around under the mask.
@DaysHaveTheirOwnStruggles6 ай бұрын
@@Invisibleboy999don't lie to yourself
@Invisibleboy9996 ай бұрын
@@DaysHaveTheirOwnStruggles how am j lying to myself?
@Mrikeepgettinmoneyagain7 ай бұрын
They done took the walls out bruh crib and stripped everything down 😭
@kamenrideruniter45037 ай бұрын
If miles isn't spider man neither is gwen stacy, ben riley, kaine parker, or miguel o'hara
@JunTekuTheEngima7 ай бұрын
Well, I mean both ben and Kaine are clones of peter, Miguel is Spider-Man 2099 not The Spider-Man while Gwen is either Spider-Gwen or Ghost-Spider . All are derived from Spider-Man but all have names that are different enough.
@usidemewilliams33036 ай бұрын
Thank you @@JunTekuTheEngima
@sk8ermGs6 ай бұрын
Yeah none of them are wtf 😂
@Yourfat2473 ай бұрын
@@JunTekuTheEngimaI mean, both Ben and kaine are CLONES. Meaning identical. Plus Miguel still uses SPIDER-MAN 2099
@Yourfat2473 ай бұрын
@@sk8ermGsyet all of them are kid 🤣🤣
@TheMaster48637 ай бұрын
you seem pretty cool. I'm a new Marvel comics fan and I like Miles because he's younger and less tech based than Peter. My nephew likes him and I'm partially getting into collecting comics so he'll have something fun to read later
@AngelusNielson7 ай бұрын
There's a reason Miles is one of only TWO characters to survive the OG ultimate universe. Not even OG Ultimate Spider-Man himself can claim that.
@almas46637 ай бұрын
And that reason is the messed up tokenism
@thewanderingronin19247 ай бұрын
@@almas4663 define tokenism
@almas46637 ай бұрын
@@thewanderingronin1924 Making a character who is black/gay/lesbian/disabled just for the sake of saying "Look! We have a black/gay/lesbian/disabled person we included for that sweet, sweet extra cash!~ Now we're gonna shove them down your throat!"
@almas46637 ай бұрын
@@thewanderingronin1924 Easy. Creating a minority character for the sake of creating a minority character. Corporations like Sweet Baby Inc have build an entire business around ruining great things by censoring them - adding unneeded tokenism and ruining the media
@almas46637 ай бұрын
@@thewanderingronin1924 I would. But I'm getting censored, which already says a lot
@mugz397 ай бұрын
I guess some ppl can't accept that there are more than 1 Spider-man nowadays.
@TheLastArcadeSamurai6 ай бұрын
There always was multiple variations throughout the comics people just love Peter Parker no matter what he is the definitive Spider Man but other veriants are fine and you get exceptions like Miles where he's great.
@Yourfat2473 ай бұрын
@@TheLastArcadeSamuraithere is more than 1 Spider-Man and they aren’t ’varients’ of Peter, miles is the rule, not the exception. Just like flash, batman, ant-man etc
@TheLastArcadeSamurai3 ай бұрын
@@Yourfat247 No I mean it's a variant of the Character Spiderman and miles is that because he's also spiderman. It's like Hulk to Red Hulk there completely separate characters but Red Hulk is a variation of Hulk.
@seanstopczynski7 ай бұрын
Peter and Miles are the best duo in the Spider-Man universe, I like that these two make inspiration that literally anyone can be Spider-Man 🕷️🕷️🕷️🕷️
@Ash-Winchester7 ай бұрын
There's only one marvel character I can think of that is a legitimate token (and I don't mean that in a derogatory sense) and that would be Tike Alicar/Anarchist. I could be mistaken but I think he was created to just be the black mutant of static x. And if anyone doesn't know who Anarchist is, he's a mutant with one of the dumbest superpowers ever. He can produce corrosive sweat. We did it, we created a superhero who's kryptonite is 70 degrees and deodorant.
@hotmcfly92477 ай бұрын
Tf are y talking about
@Ash-Winchester7 ай бұрын
@@hotmcfly9247 How are you confused?
@Yourfat2473 ай бұрын
@@hotmcfly9247can you not read?
@Ben-g3v7e5 ай бұрын
People acting like the phrase Anyone can wear the mask Doesn't exist
@Yourfat2473 ай бұрын
No, they think that phrase means people see themselves as Peter for some reason. It’s about Spider-Man
@JyMierCrawford7 ай бұрын
i mean i get why people didnt like him at first because he replaced ultimate peter but now its just dumb they act like he's THE main universe spiderman, peter is here and isnt going anywhere like in the insomniac games they coexist just like in 616 and the most important thing that's forgotten is that if marvel says he's spiderman then there is no longer a debate he's spiderman.
@kenstermcnine0717 ай бұрын
the contradictions in these comments are wild
@Yourfat2473 ай бұрын
Makes sense when they’re wrong
@TheHeadNinjainComics7 ай бұрын
I guess Beta Eagle is still in his feelings because he got packed up in your last stream. lol!!!
@Yourfat2473 ай бұрын
The only ‘reason’ why these goobers cope about miles and not any other Spider-Man that I’ve seen is that they are afraid that Peter ‘will be replaced’ even though that will not happen. Miles has his own comics, games, movies, is with Peter in games and shows etc. so if they were going to replace Peter then it already would’ve happened 😂
@callmejacob32346 ай бұрын
Listen my boy Peter deserves a break after the whole Paul disaster. It's time for Miles to become Marvel's punching bag now. That's the Spider-Man legacy.
@PizzaMan8797 ай бұрын
0:30 you foreshadowing yourself roasting this guy again?
@thewanderingronin19247 ай бұрын
He should I would watch that
@PizzaMan8797 ай бұрын
@@thewanderingronin1924 Same
@TheHeadNinjainComics7 ай бұрын
Eagle would be what? Super well done at this point?
@thewanderingronin19247 ай бұрын
@@TheHeadNinjainComics He does think X-men are woke and say white men bad so he be burnt at this point because his brain was already frying from that idiotic take
@Ubermensch92407 ай бұрын
We could get a whole series and add revenue on this alone. Make a big video, then make a bunch of little videos doing this. Easy money.
@Yourfat2473 ай бұрын
A Spider-Man show dunking on miles haters? Take my money
@RaySparkz7 ай бұрын
I love Peter but he’s character is just ruined in the comics,Miles is my homie so Miles is a better successor
@windghost27 ай бұрын
Miles is the modern day Spider-Man so it checks out.
@hotmcfly92477 ай бұрын
Miles is the successor homie
@usidemewilliams33036 ай бұрын
@@windghost2he is just a spider man not the spider man
@windghost26 ай бұрын
@@usidemewilliams3303 He’s the Spider-Man of the current generation.
@usidemewilliams33036 ай бұрын
@@windghost2 cope
@cynicalfella7 ай бұрын
The thing about the first comment is simple, Miles isn't Spider-man, The same way Miguel Isn't Spider-Man, he's Spider-man 2099, that's who he is. Miles Morales isn't "Spider-man" he's "Miles Morales Spider-man" the Same way Ben Reilly, is Ben Reilly Spider-Man. The "Is Miles Spider-Man?" Debate, is just due to a Lack of communication between Marvel fans. His first Comic was Ultimate Spider-man, but his "FIRST" comic was named after himself
@gwit40517 ай бұрын
The side that claims he isn't spider-man aren't just ragging on about some name technicality, it's pretty clear that they don't think he deserves to be called spider-man at all. It's a flat rejection that the character should share the same name even in-universe.
@HighchdsDog7 ай бұрын
Here’s the thing the reason that people call miles morales spider-man and the why marvel calls miles morales spider-man is because that’s how we differentiate him from Peter,Like when people are debating about the 3 live action spider-man people will refer to them as Tom spider-man,or Toby spider-man or Andrew spider-man Like if you look at something like miles across the spider-verse funko pop you can see that he’s actually referred as Spider-Man. Like what about Peter Parker from the animated show spectacular Spider-Man? I mean is he not spider-man!? Though I don’t even know why I’m typing this comment since I’m a dog.
@Yourfat2473 ай бұрын
Even though miles is Spider-Man, the same way Miguel is SPIDER-MAN 2099 that’s who they are, it’s simple.
@Yourfat2473 ай бұрын
Miles IS Spider-Man the same way Ben Reilly is Spider-Man
@Yourfat2473 ай бұрын
The ‘debate’ is stupid because miles is Spider-Man. Just like how Peter is Peter Parker Spider-Man. his SUPERHERO name isn’t miles 😭
@sonicnetwork29447 ай бұрын
What's a token character?
@hotmcfly92477 ай бұрын
No idea just racist
@sonicnetwork29447 ай бұрын
@@hotmcfly9247 🤣
@thewanderingronin19247 ай бұрын
A token character is a character that is supposed to represent a minority (sometimes they’re not a minority) but they are bland, one dimensional, and have no importance in the story they are in example of nonwhite and white token character are Chad (High-school musical) because he’s just “the black kid”and Greg (Everybody Hate Chris) because he’s role was to be Chris’ white friend
@sonicnetwork29447 ай бұрын
@@thewanderingronin1924 yeah thanks but ik this but I did post my first comment before the dude explained it but thanks anyway 👍
@TorosAndMakis537 ай бұрын
Miles is proof "WOKEISM" isn't the real problem. Lol
@REEZY6647 ай бұрын
I dont get why ppl wanna claim that spider-man is white so bad like theyre trying to make it theyre own thing that only they can have
@usidemewilliams33036 ай бұрын
Same with alot of miles fan (not all) they wan make it look like spider man Is black
@SupremeAdrian237 ай бұрын
So people are still hating on miles morales this is beyond sad 😭🥱🥱
@almas46637 ай бұрын
1) "Has a different background than Peter does" - A kid is bitten by a spider, and is motivated to do the right thing after some other character dies. 2) "Has to take things more seriously than Peter does" - You have no idea how seriously Peter takes things most of the time, and that his comedic side is often his way of coping with the situation, while Miles is, ESPECIALLY in the Spider-verse movies, a whiny, irresponsible goofball. 3) "Miles is more of a team player" - Fantastic Four, Avengers, Daredevil, Luke Cage, Black Cat, Venom, X-Men, Dr. Strange....Peter DOES always accept or request help when he's needed, but he is responsible enough to handle most of his stuff himself... "Literally was a main theme in Spider-Man 2" - Oh, that whole token garbage that does everything it can to show how Peter is an a***e and Miles is a Mary Sue who saves him three times? 4) "Miles is more artistic" - I'd say he's more stereotypical than artistic....Come on, a black kid from a mixed family who wears Jordan's, paints graffiti, listens to pop and rap, is a son of a cop, a nephew of a criminal... 5) "Miles doesn't let loss and trauma define him" - Does Peter Parker have an official animated short dedicated to him having A N X I E T Y~👻💀👽? Or maybe, it's Peter who tries to collapse an entire multiverse to prevent a canon event from happening? 6) "Has different powers" - The same set of powers Peter has + electricity and a freaking sword.... 7) "Has different internal struggles" - Loss of loved ones, relationship issues, identity crysis, vengeance....
@thewanderingronin19247 ай бұрын
1 ) You do know he didn’t want to be Spider-Man at first right? Let’s not forget he also took up the role of Spider-Man to HONOR Peter 2) That’s what he meant is that Miles doesn’t take it seriously while Peter does because Peter let trauma defy what Spider-Man means to him 3) There’s plenty of times he tells people he rather go solo even the fantastic four what if comic didn’t last long because people wanted Peter to be an solo act the times you see him with other groups is because he HAS to not because he WANT to also also he wasn’t being a dick to Miles until he had the symbiote and learn the definition of what a Mary Sue is because a Mary sue doesn’t have flaws and is always perfect Miles biggest flaws was focusing on Martin and letting his emotions of his trauma cloud his time getting through school and being with his family as Miles 4) So being artistic is stereotypical? I guess Bansky is a stereotypical black guy since he likes to graffiti on walls not that it’s a art style that’s universally popular and respected wait a minute you said he’s stereotypical because he wear Jordans, have a criminal uncle, listen to pop and rap, and have a dad that’s a cop you described my white friend very well I should let him see this so he know he’s black I guess your gonna tell me that a kid living in the suburbs who parents are doctors, family has no criminal record, and who’s learning to become a cop is a stereotypical white kid which is weird because I describe you my life and I am black 5) Nope but Peter had a whole comic book having a mental breakdown about himself and Spider-Man when Ben Riley had his first debut and I’m sure if he saw a vision of Aunt May dying he would sell his marriage,his unborn child, and erase the fact he ever met MJ(thus changing his canon) to Mephisto he would……………oh wait he did 6) yeah believe it or not every spider person has similar powers to Peter but are very different are you upset at Hal Jordan for having similar powers to Alan Scott or Wally West for having similar powers to Barry Allen also electricity and camouflage is an actual ability spider use in real life 7) yes…..is there a problem? I hope there isn’t because multiple superheroes go through that
@almas46637 ай бұрын
@@thewanderingronin1924 2) "That’s what he meant is that Miles doesn’t take it seriously"....Doesn't take that seriously...Yeah, that's why he's on his way to potentially make the whole universe collapse just because he refuses to accept the truth. Peter sold his marriage, to Mephisto, yes, but it was a conscious decision on his part and he did consult MJ about it....Miles, however, just goes out there, knowing that countless innocent lives might be on the line. 3) Like I said, It's because he is selfless, mature and responsible. Capable to handle things on his own and only asking for help when he knows that he needs one, while MCU Peter and Miles ask for help TOO much. 4) You know full well what I meant. What I just listed are all the stereotypical "bingo card" for a poor portrayal of a black token, and for someone who's "absolutely 100% not a token", he fills that card perfectly. 5) Again, changing the timeline, while still messed up, is nowhere near as much of a crime as potentially endangering the countless universes, and I truly hope Miles will pay for it in Beyond by having his universe destroyed like in the comics. 6) and 7) He brought it up how Miles is oh so different from Peter. "He has different powers, he has different struggles", to which I replied - No, he f*cking doesn't.
@almas46637 ай бұрын
@@thewanderingronin1924 Ah yes, "Miles is not a Mary Sue!" - That's why he overcomes his desire for vangeance on his own, then pretends to never have any when Peter calls him a hypocrite, then takes the symbiote off of Peter instead of Peter doing it on his own....Then resquing Peter AGAIN as he gets the Anti-Venom suit....And then reanimating Harry....Not to mention he's the one to help Black Cat and Mysterio
@thewanderingronin19247 ай бұрын
@@almas4663 Yeah Miles not really taking that seriously just like how Peter in No way Home almost broke the multiverse because he couldn’t decide who he wanted to know about him being Spider-Man there’s nothing wrong with going solo but Peter been told since the 60s that it’s okay to ask for help we’re just finally getting a Spider-Man that actively lets people help Superman a literal GOD ask for help and no an actual stereotypical black token is Dijonay from the Proud Family Peter selling his marriage which I think you forgetting that HIS UNBORN CHILD WOULD NEVER EXISTED is more fucked up than the spider verse collapsing which by the way we don’t know if it’s true or not (wait until the third movie comes out) wait Peter has electricity and camouflage powers while also struggling to understand that he too can be Spider-Man and understand that some people would never see him as Spider-Man what comic book,movie,or tv show was that
@almas46637 ай бұрын
@@thewanderingronin1924 Like I said - Miles, MCU Peter and Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Peter are NOT Spider-Men, so No Way Home doesn't count. Especially since MCU Peter shares more with Miles - he goes to a school for gifted kids, and has a fat comic friend-sidekick. And again - How's Peter selling his marriage (Which is like an abortion with the consent of both parents) is more messed up than a potential destruction of the multiverse, and the death of countless innocent people, including Miles' own universe?
@cjcj48617 ай бұрын
Miles Morales is just another Spider-Man clone
@cjcj48617 ай бұрын
Miles Morales suck this shows you why Marvel and DC fans don't have arguments that's why I subscribe to this channel
@cjcj48617 ай бұрын
This video gets a like I really enjoyed this video Spider-Man Fanboys they need to just shut the hell up and grow a pair of balls anybody from anime could be Spider-Man
@cjcj48617 ай бұрын
This video gets a like I really enjoyed this video Spider-Man Fanboys they need to just shut the hell up and grow a pair of balls anybody from anime could beat Spider-Man