Reacting to BAD Watch Brand Ads - MVMT, Filippo Loreti, Vincero & More

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[@TeddyBaldassarre]

Hey all, as always you can choose to do what you want with your money, however, I think many brands like the ones reviewed here make lofty claims in ads that prey on newcomers. In case you are interested and are new to watches I have several links in the description that should be helpful for what to look out for as well as some nice alternatives to these. Thanks for watching and I hope your holidays are going well! - Teddy

[@oscarvalenzuelab]

I could make the off voice in Spanish or Italian, just to make the fun episode more fun XD

[@JuanDominguez-]

That's why I stick to Seiko. Specifically the Seiko 5 sports (Blue model with a bracelet) 😎 great watch and good fit.

[@shuwazmiah4010]

Hello Teddy, What are your views on Diesel watches ?

[@achuck4321]

Teddy, have you see the playbook about how to start a fashion microbrand? It’s pretty spot on to all the messaging we saw in those marketing ads: imgur.com/a/6CNO8

[@gregsnyder4268]

A spoof would be EPIC

[@raka9]

Fillipo Loretti, Italian luxury brought to you by Lithuanians direct from China

[@romybuenaventura3133]

China brands improve more than 1000 percent for the last decade at affordable prices which you can own, while swiss watches that costs thousands of dollars to buy is insane

[@gestapo81]

@@romybuenaventura3133 if by improve you mean get "better at stealing and copiing" you are right. show me the something invented by China in the watches world and i will consider it. meantime i will still buy my Seiko, Casio, Timex, Orient, Tissot, Atlantic and other affordable REAL watckmakers. nobody is forcing you to buy limited series Pateks. i will never understand people that are shrugging off real cheap and serious watchmakers and buy Chinesse copies. You buy yourself a pair of cheap copy of Nike from China and i will by myself some original Addidas - you wear them for one summer, i wear them for 5-8 years. You buy yourself a cheap Chinesse watch and wear it for 3-5 years, i'll pass my watch to my kid.

[@AAndrews1968]

I own two Fillipo Loreti watches, and I love both of them. Their customer service was excellent, as is the quality of their timepieces. They are "Italian inspired", not Italian made, and it even states so on their website. With that being said, few people can afford the type of watch that typically amounts to a small down payment on a home or automobile. "Homage" brands offer a customer-friendly, affordable option to the so-called "luxury" market. Are all chinese brands worth the money? Absolutely not. I am speaking solely from my experience as a happy owner of several quality homage pieces that I have purchased over the last few years.

[@alecempire8982]

@@AAndrews1968 I owned one and it's embarrassing and total crap.

[@wynstondannerman605]

@@AAndrews1968 bruh, something tells me you've never held a rolex in your hand...

[@nickster13]

"There's minimalism as a pursuit, and there's minimalism as absence of thought". Love it.

[@nicktubara]

That should be a quote worthy to remember. :D

[@ronch550]

That quote can inflict serious pain. 😁

[@deangulberry1746]

But what if you’re pursuing an absence of thought

[@ronch550]

@@deangulberry1746 I don't need to pursue absence of thought. It finds me all the time. 🙃

[@davidkonevky7372]

I love that. Mindful minimalism or just plain lack of care and effort are two very different things

[@pb6839]

I used to work at a high end store, and a lady came in a bit frazzled and looked at our mens watches. (Which we’re not very good imo). She told me she was looking for a watch as a gift to her husband for her anniversary. She showed me a vincero watch on her phone and said that she liked it and another associate at a different store recommended it as a good brand. I asked her budget and she told me $3000 and she mentioned to me that he had a “Tag” watch. I told her to go to the Omega store down the road. I’m pretty sure I saved that marriage.

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

Doing God's work.

[@pb6839]

@@blas9520 i was definitely a few beers deep when I wrote that comment but thanks. 😆

[@anotherdaytobetheslayer7091]

You indeed saved that marriage 😂 great save!

[@nickchang5293]

Yep, and her hubby must’ve reciprocated her amply in the bedroom😎

[@pb6839]

@@nickchang5293 Yeah, I told her that an omega was the type of watch they could pass onto their kids one day. maybe they made some haha

[@ColinBenjamin]

Apparently brands that “cut out the middleman” don’t need any distribution at all! No logistics, no shipping - they don’t even have manufacturers! The watch just manifests on your wrist when you buy it. Incredible innovation!

[@namduonghoang2931]

Lul, you made me burst out of laugh.

[@alessandromacrina508]

I’m italian and the funny thing is that all these brands that claims to be italian can’t even pronunce their name correctly

[@edouarddesroches2224]

Damnit I was gonna write the same thing! Anyone who has some notion of italian would know the "ch" doesn't make the "shh" sound. It's quite hilarious that they can get away with it.

[@LobsterRavioli]

You speak the truth my friend.

[@damyr]

But did you think that maybe it's you Italians are ones who pronounce your language wrong? :)

[@juanmvasquez5612]

I love Italy ❤️

[@shelleyinthecity]

But they cut out the middle man, so they must be pronouncing it the right way.

[@adamvaldez7918]

The source for all of these watch brands: Trust me bro

[@treehugger3615]

If the owner of the brand wears a V-neck and gives you a "brah" vibe, steer clear.

[@stevefrommars]

💀💀💀

[@eswarravi5918]

😂😂

[@uali5000]

Yeeee

[@entertainme7523]

So basically all advertising?

[@kaunas888]

They say that the cut out the middleman, but these watch companies spend A LOT on marketing and advertising- money which if not having been spent could have gone into a higher product at a cheaper price.

[@StevenHe]

I love how it’s genuinely annoying you 😂😂😂 me too mate

[@connorflinn8137]

I’ve seen your TikTok’s, love your videos. What’s your favorite watch brand?

[@zanzy001]

Do you follow everyone I watch?

[@HaCkEr6662k7]

Legend in the comments. I bet you ve been watching these commercials like: "What da heeeall!"

[@NatiiixLP]

It's always fascinating to see someone from a completely different KZbin community commenting on a video like this. These watches are worth less than a can of Beijing Corn!

[@thevinduekanayake248]

emotional damage mate

[@GearZenChannel]

When you go on the Omega website and buy a watch, who is the middle man? Fedex?

[@OnPointFirearms]

Yeah, the driver’s name is Todd.

[@MikeB12800]

My driver was Bill!!?! Guess there are middle men!

[@erinthomas2]

My driver's name was Brian and he asked for the 2000$ markup by check :'(.

[@applemauzel]

Lets not forget the biggest middleman of them all... Government mandated taxes. If they cut out that middleman, that's a good ~10% discount with variations to where you live.

[@saijinkai]

LOOOOOOOOOL ... FedEX..... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@Gramps83]

Middle man: We cut out the middle man.

[@hunacean]

In terms of middle man, we have no middle man

[@justinweisberg1634]

Or they replace traditional middle men with their middle men, like MVMT and alpha M.

[@tubeguy4066]

I'll just buy the junk directly from the factory in China

[@Andrew-th8jk]

@@justinweisberg1634 nah, you can have advertisers, by middle men they mean dealers raising prices

[@Shreddderrr]

Stopp 😂

[@wjvlodek8769]

I stoped watching "Real Men Real Style" when he made a pitch for the Vinceros. LOL

[@dm9078]

A guy who bragged about his Rolex!

[@Kot1026]

My dad once taught me a wise lesson: an oustanding product doesn't need a ton of advertising, because the reputation speaks for itself. If something is being widely marketed = it's most likely a result of bad sales... and bads sales are usually a result of a garbage product

[@youtubecensors5419]

The best example in history: The "Covid mRNA vaccines"!

[@AJK666007]

Your dad's a legend. Well said.

[@manoman0]

Isn't that true in general? That tells you what we really need. It's not all that much.

[@Jabber-ig3iw]

When any company says ‘we cut out the middleman’ it means ‘we couldn’t get any shops to carry our products because they are shit, so we decided to sell directly to the public to get rid of them’

[@scottyhaines4226]

Not necessarily. Depends on the brand and the product. Some things I'd rather have a authorized dealer network, others I'd prefer to sell myself. For something like cheap ass watches you're far better off selling them yourself but for a real high end watch I'd want a dealer network just because of the status of the item itself.

[@simptrix007]

I would love to check Monta watches in person. Some of those claims are real for very few companies.

[@PhilipDK5800]

I came across a watch dealer yesterday in Copenhagen selling MVMT :I

[@davidkonevky7372]

It just means "we are the middle man"

[@viis]

@@davidkonevky7372 exactly. They're the people sourcing their cheap watches from AliExpress, the selling them to people. They are *by definition* the middle men.

[@PutYourArtyAwayWalter]

Guy wearing Vincero: Girl “hey sexy” Me wearing my Panda Speedmaster: Girl “why are you wearing a Mickey Mouse watch?”

[@floridabmw3150]

Lol

[@wynstondannerman605]

Very nice watch 👌

[@theVhin]

Hahahaha!

[@Daggerfall40]

Lmao

[@DutchClawz]

Me: Wearing a golden Patek Philippe grandmaster chime Girl: *Damn why are you so fat*

[@freedomring3022]

I stick to Citizen. They are in my price range, have longevity in the market, and a lot of the styles they have, I like.

[@JP-qg7bu]

My Citizen Eco Drive has been my daily watch for over 6 years now, I've been in love with it since I first saw it in the glass. Next week I'll be getting an Aquaracer.

[@highasheaven9239]

Citizen & Seiko are the goats

[@savageone8931]

Agree. Also Casios, they’ve got the edifice line & it’s 👍👌

[@GinTonicFPV]

But did u cut out the middleman???

[@benywidodo]

I prefer Seiko Group: Seiko, Orient, or Alba. But your point still stands.

[@dudearlo]

Pagani Design has cut out the middle man too, you can get them straight from china xD And they got that dope seiko nh-35/nh-35A movement in them :).

[@grahamnelson5376]

The shot of the “designer” dragging stars onto the moon phase is absolutely priceless

[@wynstondannerman605]

@@nolanreed7090 nah, I'd tell that entitled millennial to get an apprenticeship with a real watch maker.

[@Jonathanjwf]

yeah but he wearing dat rolex doe

[@OnPointFirearms]

“WatchMaker.”

[@nirajlama5325]

Some girl complimented me on my watch by saying " nice DW watch" . I was wearing a Nomos.

[@hilldweller8605]

Lmao

[@raymartin9129]

I would have been so mad!

[@1SaG]

Ouch!

[@marlapauli381]

I felt hurt and it even didn't happen to me😂 nice watch though!

[@shankhart.mgr.2943]

yeah probably because of the bauhaus design

[@ryansmithhd3011]

I fell for this crap a while ago, I bought a MVMT watch and within 6 months the strap was falling apart. Glad I found channels like yours to steer me in the right direction.

[@jamesrobert4106]

At 47, I recall as a young child in the late 70s and early 80s I would walk with my mum to do some food shopping. Most days we would walk past the Rolex dealer. Back in those days, the watches were left in the window with no shutters overnight. I was captivated by the beauty and expense of them. Thankfully it always stayed with me and my introduction to horology was in an era where the Internet didn't exist.

[@oldakkoshuk]

One of Vincero's commercial is a favorite classic! "Are you looking for a reputable affordable watch under $200"? I actually AM - and so after watching DOZENS of reviews all over KZbin - I found Orient, Seiko, Casio and Citizen. I even found some swiss quartz - like Tissot and Victorinox. "Vincero"?! Yeah right.

[@kstar7300]

Same thing I was thinking bro. For the money some people pay for these crappy watch brands, they could have bought a nice looking, good quality watch from the brands you mentioned. A few days ago, I picked up a Seiko chronograph SSB325 on sale for $150, and I even saw several automatic Seiko's that look really good for under $200!!!

[@aswinkrishna5042]

Ikr found lots of gshocks for 200 too

[@AquaFan1998]

Dude my casio F91W is so cheap and actually realy good :)

[@SweeYong98]

@@robbiew1122 LMAO

[@SweeYong98]

@@robbiew1122 did you really come to a watch related channel to talk about DW watches

[@Kondi2100]

Watching Teddy tearing into Vincero... [Ad break] : Vincero ad. Priceless😂

[@posimativelynegative]

The joys of Vincero paying for Teddy to bash on them...

[@PETER-rt6zt]

I had a very similar experience, though mine was twice as painful- two crap watch ad. breaks .

[@dspserpico]

I’ve been getting the bad CGI Breitling Santa ad.

[@tylerh6293]

The exact same thing just happened to me 🤣

[@GTeaO]

When I started to get into watches, I almost put down the money to buy a Vincero. Since I was new to the game, their design really was the one the stand out. But thankfully my first entry watch was a Seiko Presage. Through some research and watching videos like yours. Really helped me to make an informed decision. If you are new to the watch industry, please take the time to do the homework and not let these predatory companies trick you into buying a trash product.

[@ArizonaJewell]

I just bought myself an Orient Mako II a little while ago as a birthday present to myself. I picked it because I absolutely loved the dial, the date complication, and the automatic movement. I don’t get the whole “minimalism” thing that these fashion watches are talking about. To me it just looks like an excuse for being lazy when designing the thing. Personally I like a watch that looks more complicated and unique. MVMT, filippo loreti, etc. all look like the first result on Google images if you search “watch.”

[@_nines8270]

That was my first watch as well! It has been through a lot by now and is still ticking along.

[@ArizonaJewell]

@@_nines8270 Mine is still ticking too! It’s been through hell and I’ve worn it every day since I got it, and it’s totally fine! I swapped out the band for a mesh one though, wasn’t a fan of the linked band it comes with. It’s accurate to about +/-5 seconds per day and I still love how it looks. Orient makes great watches, especially considering the price! Sometime down the line I want to pick up an orient bambino open heart. The open heart watches are SO cool, I love seeing the movement on the face.

[@derbagger22]

I was out with a married couple one day. They were newly married and had gotten gifts for each other. She asks me what I think of the Daniel Wellington watch she bought him. I said, "it looks nice". That day haunts me forever...

[@dredgewalker]

If I was asked thar question I would just stay silent. Last week the wife of my brother on law bought him a technomarine..... I wanted to tell him he could have had so many great watches at that price range but I know better than to diss a gift.

[@juniorjohnson5961]

I think that was just being nice ,I was asked a very similar question and told them something very similar no need to be a jerk or offended anyone .

[@OffGridInvestor]

"No comment. Next question."

[@verbalkint4258]

I have a friend that is into Vincero watches, never even heard of the brand "Seiko". Couldn't believe it when he told me he didn't know the watch brand. What I do whenever someone doesn't know anything about watches is recommend different brands in a friendly manner (making sure not to diss their choices) and basically tell them that for the same price, there are a lot of high quality options worth looking into.

[@jp4431]

"What's important is you bought him the watch out of love and that's worth more than any watch out there in terms of sentimental value." "Aww thanks!" "It's still a shit watch though."

[@samdermody531]

Vincero was the advert that played when I watched this clip lol

[@johnbacon4997]

Same here

[@galef1986]

Same

[@RtistiqSkubie]

Yup, never ever got an ad from them on YT before

[@amirreza4228]

Same

[@clkrille]

Yup, just had it playing now

[@kaunas888]

I continue to be amazed that folks throw their money at for profit companies who are developing new products, most of which are not actually innovative or original.

[@triv4555]

Thank you for this video ^^ I was honestly looking at MVMT watches and _liked_ the minimalism they had, if I hadn't stumbled across this there's a good chance I would've gotten duped by them like many others

[@jkyle0816]

What got me into watches was Vincero. Saw their ad all over KZbin, did my research and found out they were crap, bought a Tissot instead. Fast forward a couple of years, got myself a Tudor. Thank you Vincero!

[@FabienTeulieres93]

Excellent choices, and both (relatively) reasonably priced!

[@scottsherman5262]

Ya, I think your story is a classic one in men getting into watches. Same for me, but I decided not to take the final turn into the historically dominate luxury brands. Instead, what I was/am after is intrinsic value...I want amazing design & materials with workhorse movements...high-spec micro-brand watches around $400 - $1,000 are my sweet spot.

[@jkyle0816]

@@scottsherman5262 That's a great starting price-range and definitely a variety of microbrands that can offer what you're looking for :)

[@Jesse-od6gl]

Same here, but I went with Sekio as my first nice watch.

[@rev.waynet.oleary7387]

Me too! From Tissot diver to Tudor 1926

[@madman1128]

"We spent 3 times more on material and manufacturing" than who? 😂 Like there is not even any context haha

[@shamilmammadov8246]

0*3=0)))

[@ipodhty]

Also spending more money isn't necessary better

[@pgarande23]

I caught that as well. Such bullshit 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@PhilipDK5800]

Don't forget three times as many compliments!

[@forsgsrekylgevr2113]

tbf i might believe that literally anyone spends 3x more than what daniel wellington spends on materials

[@chriswatchbandit8002]

Awesome video, great that you expose these lofty claims of these lofty brands. Long before I even worked with watches and when I was still a student, a friend of mine showed me his MVMT watch proudly. But I was already into watches and I immediately knew that this watch was only worth the marketing at its price point. I also remember when a friend sent me a link about the "revolution of Filippo Loreti". All these friends of mine are rather business men with more economic interests than being emotional about watches and their heritage or built quality. And that's what the founders of these brands are as well, they only care about the business, good marketing and the profit. Unfortunately for them with the "business case watches" they have stepped on thin ice, encountering a strong emotional and caring watchfam and I'm so glad that videos like yours might show people like some of my friends and others the truth behind their shady marketing and open the door to the real watch enthusiasm. :) Cheers!

[@ryptoll4801]

Interesting! No, I mean that. I got an MVMT watch some 2-3 years ago, and honestly I love it. It still looks new (aside from the holes in the wristband getting a bit worn out) and works just fine. I've only needed to change the battery once so far, as the original battery held up for just over 2 years. It tells the time accurately enough (it's off by about a minute maybe once or twice a year.) Despite it being a type of watch that can't handle water well (it's not supposed to, it has a low level rating) it hasn't gotten any water damage, but then again I also don't subject it to water. Regardless of the brand, I think it just makes sense to take care of your watch. Also, I'm actually amazed that this watch has lasted me this long and is still going strong. Because all of my prior watches broke literally two weeks after I had bought them. I almost thought I had some kinda watch curse on me lol. So this bugger holding on for years feels like a miracle to me. And I've been wearing it pretty much every day. I realize now that maybe I was just lucky, or maybe I can't tell quality from shit. Both are absolutely possible as I really dunno shit about watches, and I get that my experience is not universal. As for the design I like how it looks (obviously, or I wouldn't have bought it) and I don't think it looks cheap at all. It has a golden (likely steel or other metal gold-plated) frame with a black face and brown leather strap. Nothing too fancy but it looks classic and I do get a lot of compliments for it. Even my dad was impressed and he's never impressed by anything I wear. Does that mean my MVMT watch is super high quality luxury stuff? No, I really can't be the judge of that. But I think it means that it can't be absolute bottom of the barrel crap quality, like all my previous watches must have been, at least not this particular item, and at the very least it means that it's good enough for me. That said, yeah I agree that their marketing tactics are awful, but I always knew that. I just thought "this is what companies do nowadays to sell their shit" and didn't think much of it. I come from the mindset that all kinds of ads and marketing is probably just scam, so I never listen to that part of any company, or at the very least I take all advertisement with a huge grain of salt. So was I scammed? I wouldn't say so. I didn't expect a rolex. But in actuality, this watch has exceeded my expectations by far. Especially since I only paid some $100 for it. But I still don't think companies should be shitty. So while I love my watch, I kinda doubt that I would buy from that same company again. So I think this video highlighted an important issue regardless of if you like these companies' watches or not.

[@tecnogadget2]

When you realize Teddy is the middleman himself 👁👄👁

[@TeddyBaldassarre]

I need some stitches from being cut this much...

[@tecnogadget2]

@@TeddyBaldassarre That’s a top quality answer, my friend. But not as top quality as your straps! ;)

[@mikerotch6068]

@@tecnogadget2 🌽🌽🌽🌽

[@zsb707]

😂😂😂

[@gerum009]

Apparently if you "middleman" higher end watches or "quality microbrands" you are a cut above the "bad watch" middlemen.

[@SevGW]

Really don‘t wanna be a middleman these days ✂️

[@M3LTUP]

I used to be a middleman. But then i got cut.

[@burdineestep4224]

Bad enough being a middle child.

[@cabroncito600]

Hahahaha 😂😂

[@facetiousmonkey5322]

Tell Vincero & better yet "RAYCON", ('CON' is literally in the name!), that you cut out are "cutting out the middleman" which is them and getting it direct from AliExpress!

[@jaylc]

Thank God we have a guy like you Teddy to keep us away from these brands. I remember buying an "Original Grain" watch back in the day after their debut just for the heck of it...only for it to start getting condensation inside randomly and falling apart and they said they couldn't help me or warranty it. It's losers like them that don't need to exist in the business. Thanks for doing all the hard work for us Teddy and being a true advocate for the business!

[@jonathanmcfadden9939]

I can’t get enough of this guy! I love this channel so much. Thanks for all the hard work!

[@katiewong2051]

11:53 You know the watch brand is bad when the designer themselves wears a Rolex but not a watch from their own brand 😂😂😂😂😂

[@TeddyBaldassarre]

Hahaha great eye Katie. I am mad I missed that.

[@katiewong2051]

@@TeddyBaldassarre what's funny of course is that the designer is wearing a datejust/day-date but the end product is a royal oak and milguass hybrid 😂😂😂😂

[@katiewong2051]

@@TeddyBaldassarre 7:10 the 1st guy promoting the Vincero watch is the guy from the biograhics show btw🤔

[@t.3465]

@@katiewong2051 u mean Biographics? and Megaprojects

[@entertainme7523]

He didn't want anyone to think he was poor

[@luiscossio296]

I always thought mvmt watches look like they came out of a plastic ball surprise machine, or a box of cereal.

[@alexandermikhailov2481]

Well said! 👍😄

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

Or the ones you win at a circus fare if you missed all targets. Seriously fake Chronograph hands...... from plastic......... eww

[@Vazin2727]

How dare you insult cereal toys like that? Lol

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

@CRF.Channel97 crazy

[@MRREE-zw6xc]

Yeah or the fashion watches at target or Walmart sell with some leather bracelet bs

[@Encron]

I once bought a mvmt watch around 7 years ago when I was a broke student and wanted to get an affordable minimalistic watch. I felt scammed tbh. The quality was very bad, the leather strap got worn very fast and the watch just stopped working after a couple of months. It’s the first time I saw this kind of digital marketing campaign and naive as I was it won me over. It’s crazy to see all those other watch companies still doing the exact same thing and getting hard earned money from a lot of young and unknowing buyers, just like I was.

[@DomDelore]

Awesome content! Loved the video here! You helped me go with a much better Citizen Eco-drive than any of these

[@SirMopy]

the sad thing: still too many people are falling for this whole crap those brands are preaching.......

[@TeddyBaldassarre]

If you think about the strategy most people that are buying them are just buying right from the ad. No additional research outside of that, the watches come to them and without the research, it appears like a great deal if these ads are all you see. If you look up any of these brands on youtube you will quickly find out that you are not getting what you are promised.

[@pokerdegen1186]

I just did. I bought a Valuchi now I feel like a moron lol

[@carloserrandovidal145]

@@pokerdegen1186 best comment ever

[@ramonticocalzada3093]

@@TeddyBaldassarre Agreed, personally, the best part of buying a watch, except for wearing it obviously, is the research, so many quality brands in each price range, so many cool designs, so many different styles, it's a big world.

[@GodIsInHisHeaven]

@@pokerdegen1186 what's their return policy? Get your money back asap and spend half the amount on a watch that will be x100 better. Pocket the rest.

[@nrbrown5985]

Lol, a Vincero ad played before this video.

[@TeddyBaldassarre]

Haha typical

[@markl367]

I got Longines, so i watched entire ad.

[@funkmon]

@@markl367 those Longines ads are so good I'm probably going to buy one

[@adityavamsikrishnamandalik2678]

Longines on KZbin and JLC on Instagram always draw me in

[@Propofol001]

@@funkmon got a master collection on rn! You won’t regret !

[@stu1002]

LITERALLY had a Vincero advert come up half way through this video. Hilarious.

[@patricj951]

Good video. Earlier I actually considered to get a Vincero because they are really stylish, in my opinion. Now I will continue to stick to Citizen, Seiko, Tissot and similar. I think MVMT is the worst of these brands. They don't even look luxuary but cheap. A few years ago I ordered 4 cheap watches from China just of curiosity. The prices were between ~$1-5. One of them is exactly the black MVMT showed in the video. The only outer difference on the front is that it's labeled "DooBo" instead of MVMT. But the same red text color. By the way: a while ago I saw an advert from a (claimed) german brand called Lige. The watches looked good but not a single photo, all pictures were computer animated. I think that in itself makes it not trustworthy...

[@alvojnikovic2171]

Ah yes, Lithuanian’s selling me “high end” Italian luxury ... you love to see it

[@peppolicchiopappo7274]

With the worst italian fake accent I've ever heard, and the other one, the dutch one i even worse

[@BigDaddyDD]

@@peppolicchiopappo7274 its not fake accent. A lot of europeans have that accent

[@noname-bt9ky]

@@BigDaddyDD He is Italian read his name

[@user-lv8dn8gw9z]

@@peppolicchiopappo7274 the first guy? Don't think he was trying for an Italian accent

[@janisstrods4404]

@@noname-bt9ky His name is literally Lithuanian.

[@BritniAlexander]

I have a Timex I bought for $35 at target when I was in college that looks EXACTLY like a MVMT or DW watch. Every time I see those ads it kills me that people really buy those for $150 and think they're getting a deal.

[@uve8ji205]

When i was short on money but wanted a nice watch i ordered a Zeppelin watch at wish...i would've never ordered a watch at this shitty place but normally the watch costs more than 300€ here in germany but the one from wish is pretty nice for the month i've had it. Im sure its a fake and will eventually break sooner than an original one but i got it for 12€...and its nice. Imma not cry when it breaks for sure.

[@PWCDN]

@@uve8ji205 Just get a casio, the cheapest is like 12 USD, reliable and has tons of functions built in with tons of history in the brand.

[@kaeptnkrunch9212]

Yes, but Timex has a much deeper history than all this brands.

[@marioluigi9599]

@@kaeptnkrunch9212 Timex is just an American thing. No reason to buy it for that

[@harryhirsch3637]

The problem is right there in your post: They think... Yeah, maybe they should try something less difficult. 😎

[@drrightwing4435]

Things that these companies have in common are that their watches look cheap AND their marketing videos are annoying AF

[@SkuzzelB8]

I must live in a different world. I myself can not afford a luxury watch, but the price/cost is extremely important to the reason i would purchase one in the first place. 🤷‍♂️ I see them as a representation of success. Most success is earned.

[@gabrielfelixmunoz739]

what confuses me about these fashion watch advertisements is that you'll often hear them say, "at an affordable price" or "under 200 dollars." But I can buy an Orient for less than 200 dollars...

[@tommyboy71000]

yeah, and Seiko, Timex, Casio....

[@hectorandem2944]

And the fashion watches themselves are less durable than a _$30_ Casio/Timex 👁👄👁

[@HardGamerPC1]

Better an orient than this crap 😂😂 orient have an history and it’s a prestigious company, their calibers are not so bad, specially for the price.

[@Mart77]

They are kind of trying to sell the idea, that you're getting Rolex equivalent for $259

[@Laurius57]

Still my favorite is "mvmt better than rolex".

[@igorchistyakov8876]

We have a saying that goes somewhere along the lines of "better a titmouse in your hand than a crane in the sky". One could argue that there's still a difference between a titmouse and a rock, but could that be an earlier spin on alpha wisdom?

[@marcotucker3431]

This was a great an informative video. Thanks Teddy! Also, just bought a Murph off your site.

[@thealize808]

I bought a fossil blue watch over 15 years ago. And other than replacing the battery. And paying around $90/$100 it still works perfectly

[@bubbles13244]

Fossil can have some good watches and can have really bad watches

[@sneaky.vampire]

I'd love to see the spoof/parody of these ads you have in mind Teddy!

[@stuartizon]

+1

[@ibitdalv3238]

We need this

[@iowareefs7702]

Yes we need it

[@leifduncan5800]

it has been 1 year but yes

[@pyromaniac12345]

All these watch brands are probably Alibaba specials where you can get a custom logo if you order more than 500.

[@burdineestep4224]

Definitely.

[@chriswheeler4368]

That many?

[@pyromaniac12345]

@@chriswheeler4368 nah, think it's more like 300.

[@Discotechque]

So that's why the first "brand" specifically said they need 500 pre-orders lol.

[@guillaumea1215]

7:07 "hopefully the man wearing it is sexy too" I can't stop laughing at teddy's reaction 😂 who's seriously buying watches thinking that's gonna getting me girls?

[@GinTonicFPV]

You’d be surprised

[@jthompson7024]

I fell for this sort of thing freshman year of college when I was just starting to put myself together more and get into fashion and watches. Got a Daniel Wellington which, as meh-quality as it is, has a soft spot in my heart because without it I wouldn't have gone down the road to learn more. (Also other college kids knew just as little or less about watches so I still got tons of complements)

[@gmansjewels]

I love how in the valuci ad when they showed the leather craftsman, he made a knife sheath and not even the strap

[@Benji_4]

If you look at their website the only have 1 model of watch and no plain leather straps

[@leung9401]

Probably the only stock footage they could afford at the time.

[@lourencosalerno4841]

The only thing these brands discovered is alibaba. It's comical to see the paid influencers talking about no middle man when they are the middle man for these brands lol

[@OffGridInvestor]

Crazy isn't it. I see watches on ebay for US$2.40 FREE SHIPPING that are junkier copies.... if these dumbos actually WENT on ebay or look at other watch reviews.... they wouldn't buy this other crap. But the pure fact that they can't even look on ebay first.... sucker born every minute.

[@noriakikakyoin4430]

They probably use “italian” branding because legally they can’t put swiss branding when at least 60% of the watch isn’t made in Switzerland.

[@kaunas888]

A minimalist watch can be very cheap to make because there is not much to them, hence minimalism.

[@MirzaAdrian]

People trying to sell watches: Luxurious and shiny Seiko: NARUTOOOO!!!

[@futb2665]

Rolex be like : you can try but won't get one

[@2nd_a_dad4791]

I Lol’d when I saw the Naruto Seikos. That’s like the Timex PacMan watch Jody at JOMW reviewed once.

[@JhuangFuKai]

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[@11shiroineko]

Don’t forget the JoJo part 5 colab

[@Scrrumy]

I live in Tokyo and I remember when I saw the first Naruto Seiko collab 😂 lowkey wanted one

[@someanimationsivemade1017]

i like how the watch that "isnt sexy"" in the vinchero advert is a MVMT

[@anw9485]

I'm just kinda getting back into watches and came across your videos for the first time. Great content! Well, I gotta say that these ads do have some great production value at the least. However, being a veteran of the fashion industry/manufacturing I know how this works. 500 pcs "limited edition"? Sounds special! Guess what? The factory they contracted probably requires a 500 unit minimum order. They probably choose from a dozen pre-designed watches that may not be available for reorder in the future from said factory. So when they've finally sold all 500 units they don't have to worry about the factory not producing that same model anymore, in case they wanted to reorder. They'll just choose another watch from a pre-designed catalog and the factory will slap their brand on it and voila! Cutout the middleman? Well, since they are not watch manufacturers technically, THEY are the middleman. With the direct source being the factory they contract. Also, less overhead for these startups means more money for them. There's a lot more that goes into cost of a watch than just the middleman. For actual watch companies a whole R&D team, designers, marketing team etc are all costs/overhead. At the end of the day it's all business and the main goal of business is to make a profit. No one does it out of the generosity of their heart. I'm okay with letting Omega and Rolex make their money when I buy their watches. At least I'm getting a quality piece. But to Spend any kind of money on junk? That I can't abide. With all that said, a close friend of mine is actually a designer for a well established fashion-watch brand which I won't name. They just take the approved design and send it off to the factory to be made and throw a generic quartz movement into it at the end. It's as easy as that.

[@jake_the_lawyer]

This is so funny, there's a Vincero ad displayed next you your video on the sidebar and I'm looking at it while simultaneously hearing Vincero get ripped a new one.

[@jonjustdope]

I always remembered how I found the Orient Bambino on Amazon while looking for a less costly alternative to a Daniel Wellington 😅 needless to say things have changed for me.

[@kimmern999]

Perceptions and ideas about what people [think] they desire is always interesting and sometimes pretty scary. Just let that thought think in for a moment: An Orient Bambino is cheaper than a Daniel Wellington. What's even more scary, is that the Orient watch is not even close when it comes to how sought after it is among potential buyers across the globe.

[@cleverkitsune4302]

Glad you found the orient, they make beautiful watches with quality movements

[@eastwestminds]

Fillipo Loretti: watch companies sometimes raise the price by 1000% yes...like how you’re doing?

[@timtim2949]

Gotta say, that Valuchi “MillgOak” at least has aligned screws. That’s something Hublot can’t even do on a $10,000 watch.

[@VWatchie]

Great video, and much needed! Thanks!

[@MrMercSoldier]

Second comment, I find it funny that these brands are equating Italian with luxury when the majority of luxury watch brands are Swiss or German

[@albertoroveda5135]

Very very very sad Luminor Panerai noises :(

[@leatt6136]

I guess they’re not only talking about luxury watches but luxury in general. It’s easier to find real luxury brands in Italy or France than in any other countries

[@nkonig1]

11:25 says “these guys are the worst so far” then immediately cuts to what looks like Teddy himself designing the watches!

[@othus123]

Hahahaha

[@kingadjust5422]

he secretly works for them 😂

[@TheRealMitchMcconnell]

It does look like him!

[@MadPotoo]

Cue Spiderman meme

[@thechief043]

I bought a Vincero a couple years ago. No regrets, but I've learned a lot since, and even invested in a Grand Seiko. Right now though, I'm rocking a Suunto to track my health/fitness.

[@budedgerton2015]

Great content. Would love to see more videos like this in the future

[@alessandro_L]

On behalf of my whole country: stop saying you're italian if the only italian thing you have is a cheap and plastic-like "genuine italian leather" strap. Stop it, get some help

[@TeddyBaldassarre]

In most cases Genuine Italian leather is referring to the style not where it was made just to add to it.

[@POTKC]

@@TeddyBaldassarre isn’t genuine leather actually a classification of the quality of the leather? And it’s one of the lowest categories, or something like that?

[@jonburingrud6127]

I had an advertising course in college and the term "glittering generalities" stuck in my mind. And now we know why televangelists own private jets.

[@luisteixeira00]

At 11:43 there's literally 5 layers on the Photoshop project. That's hilarious, hahaha

[@mckiki4029]

Yeah I got a Vincero a few years back and it actually does get me compliments but it's definitely not what it has been hyped up to be in terms of quality. It wasn't extremely expensive but after learning more about watches you can do so much better. I'd say a Vincero is worth $50-75, they look nice but that's about it. A fashion watch!

[@cleverkitsune4302]

Jesus at that price you could buy a starking watch that looks way better and is a proper automatic movement not some shit quartz movement

[@mckiki4029]

@@cleverkitsune4302 Yup that’s what these companies do… target the uneducated with well executed marketing that. I didn’t even know what was out there, listened to the sellouts promoting the “garbage” watches and thought I was getting a good deal but I was soooo wrong. My Seiko 5 which was $50 and it’s the best watch I’ve ever had for the price. The Vincero actually got me into watches and it made me realise that I really have to do my research before making a purchase, I’m happy that I only made a $100 mistake and not a $300-$400 mistake 😂

[@chaplickcw]

@@mckiki4029 Made exactly the same Vincero mistake when I first got started. Tbh, for a hundred bucks, it looks great, nice strap and running strong after 5 years. Wont buy another but no complaints.

[@simplychaff1875]

That voice over for the Valuchi ad sounded just like the South Park SodoSopa ad and I was crying laughing.

[@Davidnero87]

😂💀💀💀💀

[@KerryBuchanan]

😂😂😂 Yessss!

[@PhilipDK5800]

Same here!

[@NotThatOneThisOne]

Can your ad have you hammering in a blacksmith, pulling off a welding mask, looking down at what you've been hitting with a big hammer, smiling, and picking up a flattened mvmt case?

[@PapaBeliMainanLagi]

FFS... don't give them idea! lol

[@christophwilser3589]

I have some high end watches and some cheap MVMT, Fossil etc because they are cheap fashionable watches I got as gifts from people who are not into watches. And I love them for that. They were gifts I cherish. They do the Job and are nice to mix things up.

[@4747da]

it's interesting that in the dress show industry, there have been genuine, quality small brands, that are offering great value(tlb Mallorca, cobbler union, meermin, to name a few), but they didn't market themselves as "cutting the middleman". just shows you can carve a place for yourself as an affordable brand without making suspicious claims

[@morgannield5996]

I fell into the marketing trap of "cutting out the middle man" or whatever BS and bought a MVMT watch. A few years later and a little wiser I still cut out the middle man by buying a Citizen, wait for it, directly from Citizen. My new watch was only $50 more but is several times the quality.

[@pablojilltv4575]

I was in the process of purchasing a $220 automatic orient kamasu, sapphire crystals, fantastic quality watch for the price, and happen to stumble upon a nice looking citizen for sale for only $70!! Both came in last week and I couldn’t be happier bruh. You can tell there’s actual care, even with a regular $100+ standard citizen than so many other brands. I’ll soon be purchasing a seiko in the near future

[@psiturbo]

LMAO 😂!!!

[@imayano6257]

I got a Vincero commercial as you were talking about the Vincero watches

[@andresshamis4348]

My first watch was an MVMT my second one was a rolex datejust 😌 I could have never expected such a big quality difference

[@noriakikakyoin4430]

I started with an Armani watch a few years ago, currently my most expensive watch is a Tag Heuer. Interesting upgrade you got.

[@mainakmandal4275]

@@noriakikakyoin4430 I have an orient golden eye and just upgrade to seiko alpinist or something has 6r20 movement, because I have more nurones than my money.

[@shankhart.mgr.2943]

even a cheaper casio is better then all those craps.. don't you think mate?😂

[@meneerjansen00]

Casio is a highly respected brand. They've been making excellent watches for decades. And their classic reissue models are dirt cheap. Cheap does not mean bad. A cheap schnob wears Filippo Loreti, a connaisseur wears a Casio.

[@jdrules23]

Hey all, as always you can choose to do what you want with your money, however, I think many brands like the ones reviewed here make lofty claims in ads that prey on newcomers. In case you are interested and are new to watches I have several links in the description that should be helpful for what to look out for as well as some nice alternatives to these. Thanks for watching and I hope your holidays are going well! - Teddy

[@shankhart.mgr.2943]

@@meneerjansen00 yes you are right i have bought Casio Duro last year and it is still going on as brand new.

[@meneerjansen00]

@@jdrules23 Everybody is free to choose whatever they want. If you consciously choose a Filippo Loreti over a cheap Casio (which I highly doubt) then that's your prerogative and I respect that. However, those fashion brands prey on the unknowingly, not on us. That is: certain people think that their buying a "serious" watch because for the same money you can buy a Seiko or a Citizen. Those unfortunate people wear those to a wedding or, even worse, a job interview. They do not know that they are embarrassing themselves. Since watches nowadays are an accessory and not a necessity anymore and because they are 40 mm or larger and therefore VERY in your face they are the laughing stock of the part or they unwillingly make a bad impression at a job interview. That what's wrong w/ second rate overpriced brands. Its bad for the occasional buyer who spends his hard earned money on it.

[@D0GG_]

The Casio Duro is the watch of choice for Bill Gates.

[@TheNotoriousKID]

Here’s an awesome name for one of these bootleg “Italian” watch brands: “LazamBorghini”... here’s their company slogan, “it’s sporty like a super car and delicious like pasta”

[@zephyr60078]

Lambarilla

[@MurderSTi]

Feauxrarri watches

[@OffGridInvestor]

I don't like pasta 😂😂 so the watch is just "sporty".

[@rangersmith4652]

Remember, big company advertisements are reviewed and approved by lawyers who know the law. In order to win a suit against an advertiser, you have to prove the ad is false and that the advertiser knew or should have known it was false. The advertiser has no burden to prove what he is saying is true.

[@AyBi_Studio]

These promotion adds reminds me the episode from Entourage when Vince is searching for a new agency and each one he meets is starting with showing him a video with mega brands like Coca Cola, Apple and McDonald's and he's like "man, not again..."

[@altmegido]

"A diverse team of creative millenials" that tells you everything you need to know 🤣🤣🤣

[@nickgalla-barth6336]

Seemingly wearing a Rolex Datejust!

[@jamesrobert4106]

That should be enough to bankrupt this brand overnight. Vulgar.

[@misterbobo8139]

Hilarious. I laughed when I heard that.

[@gorillaofjohn15]

hahahahahaha

[@zoltandiveki5233]

Strange, I never got complemented for my Mido Commander. Must be a garbage compared to Vincero :)

[@ArtBorow]

Commanders are ugly IMHO , sorry.

[@evanblackley5738]

Idk I think they are pretty sweet especially those blue dials

[@zsb707]

Zoltán, it's like comparing an Audi A4 - almost nobody compliments you for it, but it's a great car - versus a Kia Xceed - some say it's a wow looking car ... 😊

[@bigboiganiga8356]

Commander Miho is beautiful dude. Damn

[@Pentti_Hilkuri]

Try wearing a Sinn, not only does it seem to be invisible but it makes you inivisible too.

[@sligo405]

I was influenced to buy a Vincero by David Pakman. But by the time it arrived I found the Baldassarre, sent it back, and bought an Orient. Now I have an Oris and im looking at a Certina and a Tudor. I’m fully addicted. I would have saved money if I never knew. I’d be walking around with a Vincero and I’d have a motorcycle and a paddle board, but now I have watch addiction.

[@MrMattie725]

These Kickstarters make no sense. They ask for 20k, get 900k but are back asking for another 20k a few months later? What happened to that 880k bonus (expect of course the production of rewards for the extra funders)?

[@andrewnibbi]

You gotta love Valuchi most of all because they claim to be an Italian luxury brand and never even stopped to ask how the name would be pronounced in Italian. -chi in Italian makes a “key” sound, rather than a “chee”, which means someone just threw “Italian sounding words” into Google and threw the first one into the email to their Chinese manufacturer.

[@ElectricEarth]

"The key to value is a Valuchi!"

[@DemetriosLevi]

I was just gonna comment the same thing. Pronouncing it "valuchee" instead of "valukee" made me laugh and shake my head

[@nathanayrheart7643]

There's minimalism as a pursuit, versus minimalism from absence of thought. Teddy's always ways dropping great one liners!

[@lozcast7924]

Made no sense in reality. it's just a platitude without substance.

[@McCurleyFries]

I used to comment on the Vincero FB ads for people to eBay/Amazon search for "Ijiaba" or whatever the watch was that Vincero was swapping the logo on. While I only had a few people say "thank you" or call them scammers in a reply, I like to think I saved lots of people $80 by getting the cheap Chinese watch instead haha

[@dug4788]

Great video, you do see the similarities of these 'cutting out the middle man watch companies'

[@chi-towncalifornia5916]

The best part of that Valuchi video was the watch’s designer wearing a Datejust on his wrist.

[@burdineestep4224]

FAKE. you betcha

[@sebestiantan1]

🤣🤣🤣👍

[@henrywest7217]

It's a little depressing how slick marketing trumps quality.

[@Sam-ko8mt]

Nice looking watch > watch with a "good" movement That's the case for most people, me included

[@ivanleinnn]

If you want some affordable watch, just buy a seiko/orient or tissot if you really want a swiss watch

[@r.t.hannah9575]

I also fell for Vincero back in 2015… haha I still have them actually 😅 they do look decent though.