Reacting to Britain Does Owe Reparations | Dr. Shashi Tharoor

[@xcastille6161]

I don't think that colonialism was ever intended to help local people.

[@matchbox1275]

Do learn about the concepts propagated by the Empire about "Civilising the World" and the best of the lot, it's called "White Man's Burden". I'm not even kidding.

[@richardwills-woodward5340]

It was a commercial decision and every empire in the world was at it. They played, they lost and now it's sour grapes.

[@TheOnkarj]

Help😂😂 1st class compartments in British India had boards saying “Indians and dogs not allowed”

[@matchbox1275]

@@TheOnkarj Even restaurants and in early 20th century, Cinema halls as well, those kind of boards are documented.

[@richardwills-woodward5340]

@@TheOnkarj Indians in first class believe that of other Indians today. Gandhi was overt racist toward other people and never hid this. Yet he stated the British governed Indians least of all and with light touch compared to every other system. History is full of surprises. One comment about a particular issue (which today would be condemned) does not a story tell. Worth remembering that today wokeism is every bit as bad as your comment content, and that is alive and well today, reviving racism, sexism, totalitarianism that was long since vanishing from these islands. So the past was no worse than today. The largest slavery areas of the world today - Africa and Middle East.

[@momentary_]

A lot of older Indians have British accents due to learning English from communities that learned English from the British. The accent is fading with the newer generations as they're exposed to other accents in media; primarily American.

[@stevenparsons3894]

Shashi's Accent is very Indian. Many of my Indian friends have similar accents. You should do a video on the Indian words which are now in common usage in English.

[@nitishsaxena1372]

It's more like the accent of the older generation, maybe because of the recent Brit influence for them. My grandfather had a similar accent but it's different with the today's generation.

[@chess584]

More like anglo indian

[@africanlipplateandbonenose3223]

Keep in mind videos like this are typically anti-White jewish propaganda.

[@davidhollins870]

English has absorbed words from everywhere - bungalow is from India too.

[@joecarter1486]

@@sebastianbolzan9826 Well the thug where a major impediment in India, so that is not surprising.

[@davidhollins870]

Quite a lot related to tea as well. 🍵

[@cliffsinclair4900]

sebastian is right - thug from the thuggee tribe other stuff via and corrupted through the colonisation include Doollally - as in doollally tap - suffering from mental illness today - then more 'bats in the belfry'. "He's gone a but doolally" Spike Milligan (the goons etc ) details this in his great biographic books. As far as the Brits were concerned, I think the Indian regiments WERE the british army. Taught and commanded by them - no difference. Certainly no indian army as the continent was commandeered when it was ruled by regional mughals (moguls ibid), etc Thanks to you for teaching me my history

[@noicezzzzzzzzzzzzx4081]

Avatar too

[@vbansal3932]

Well not just word even the concept is from India which travelled to first world countries. You can still have a look at many surviving examples in West Bengal, India. A shocking word is 'Cash' from Indian Lang, Tamil.

[@cricketingtrends6364]

England took out 45 Trillion out of India from 1745 - 1945, that is 5 times what America is today, and that too at that time. And at 5% growth today INDIA's GDP would be 600 Trillion dollors.

[@robertfpv7733]

Honestly I like it when people tell the history how it is I really wish my teachers in high taught like this. I might offend some people but unfortunately the facts are the facts don’t sugarcoat it give it to them straight make them know what their ancestors did

[@simontomlinson6484]

But when you only give facts which support your argument and don't contextualise them- they cease to be facts. It's like saying the Mexicans owe reparations to the rest of Central America for the atrocities and slavery of the Mayan Empire. Context is key to so called "facts"

[@roisinmalone3015]

@@simontomlinson6484 The Mayan Empire was a long time ago. The Colonisation of India ended fairly recently.

[@Ganymede559]

@@simontomlinson6484 Aztec empire. Not Mayan.

[@AjaySharma-qo4jo]

Normally Indians don't use imperial units they always use the metric system. I think he became accustomed to both systems as he did spend a lot of time at UN. Fun Fact - USA is also a metric country!!! at least officially. I mean all your units are defined on metric system but they are not used directly. I think some administration had tried to make US a completely metric country but that just failed as they had made it a recommendation (and we all know Americans like to follow recommendations --_--). There is a video by Real Engineering channel explaining the American Metric stuff. Also I think most of the times in general the British troops and Indian troops are mixed in as British was ruling India at that time. Brits wanted a lot of soldiers in those wars so best way to find them - get them from your colonies. I think there was also some things that if India fights for brits it will gain independence. In the WW2 most of the Indians fought with Allies but there were also a large chunk of ppl fighting with Axis(Japan) as they were just fed up with British then so they fought against them. Subhas Chandra Bose was a freedom fighter who fought against Brits then. Things are complicated and also Independence struggle was not at all non-violent. There were many ways on how to attain independence and I think almost all of them were followed by someone or another. Also Brits and Indians do have some friction but that is mostly wrt the independence past nothing much more then that. I just know it that those things will become 10x if it was a Pakistan India video. The thing is that everyone thinks that they are right and their country always win and all that. Also understand that the India Pak situation is really complex. The emotional scars still have not healed in ppl so that does not help either. (Also don't do any video on Indo-Pak before you have done some research cause the issue is so emotional that that just can't hear if some fact is presented wrong, THINGS FLAIR UP A LOT)

[@yashodeeppatil7]

Winston Churchill is another Hitler for us.If Hitler wasn't there, then Winston Churchill is called villian of humanity. Mother, brother, father, geometry,algebra and many more english word came from "Sanskrit"(Ancient Indian language/ called Mother of all languages/ most suitable language for computer).

[@RaMp_EdItZ.]

It is very difficult to face the truth when you are taught from a young age that British rule was very great and later you find out that the british empire stable with other people's money.

[@chlorine5795]

lol...who taught you that ? ...Should have gone to a better school.

[@cornerofknowledge7761]

Hi Brit here. Having read Shashi Tharoor's book Inglorious Empire and respectfully taken into consideration his viewpoints I would still argue that I today should not be held accountable for the actions of people some 80 or more years ago. Not because I believe there weren't any crimes committed by the British against India but because I don't believe guilt should be assigned to people based on their racial heritage. If we are to go down this route then I will be claiming my reparations from the Italians because of the Roman invasion of Britain and from the French, owing to the Norman invasion of Britain. Oh and I will also claim against the Scandinavian countries because of the Viking invasions. The list goes on and on and this game could never end. Should we hold modern-day Germans accountable for the sins of the Nazis? I think not. In any case, he is applying modern-day ethical standards to a time when the ethical standard of the day was imperialism, an egregious error. I must ask, if we do pay India reparations do we get all of the good stuff that the British gave to India back? Surely we should take a principled approach if we are to go down this path? Edit: (Shameless plug) I didn't think I'd get this many likes. I have a small KZbin channel about history and philosophy. Check it out if you want to hear more of my thoughts on things. I've just started a series on the French Revolution. Cheers.

[@tsar_zo8007]

As an Indian, I wholeheartedly agree with you on this. I am a big fan of Mr. Tharoor due to his Nehru like behaviour and his believe in the 'Idea of India' as a Nation of Nations but he is entirely wrong about the "issue".

[@cornerofknowledge7761]

@@tsar_zo8007 I appreciate your sentiment. It is good to hear your view. Thank you very much sir.

[@michaelrae297]

And also the Arab Slavers who raided the southern coast of England for 2 centuries - sometimes taking whole villages. Reparations for this would be nice if we're going down that road.

[@peterdurnien9084]

Yeah, we gave them a big train set, and bikes.

[@donathandorko]

I had typed up my own response, but reading yours, I think you have articulated my thoughts on this subject much better than I ever could!

[@davidknowles3459]

It was called the British Indian Army.With Indian Soldiers and British officers

[@Swindondruid2]

By WWII most of the officers in an infantry battalion were Indian. Please see my answer, above, about Viceroy Commissioned Officers.

[@davidknowles3459]

@@Swindondruid2 Yes,by the second world war that was true.But,for the majority of time it was as I said!

[@peacefollower5026]

@@davidknowles3459 yes and those soilders are in the first row and it's not all about India, Canada and Australia also fought in wars and I m sure other colonial public is also forced to or negotiate to contribute something in war I have a simple question for British people's if colonization is really help the local people then where is native Australian now ? And why UK need to addicted Chinese population with opium and if colonization is bad and people's suffered from slavery then why UK never apologize to ex colonial public and why the hell Indian, Chinese, Egyptian, Africans antiques are in UK museum ?? I want to know the common people perspective on those issues we are not demanding money but you should respect others civilizations and cultural heritage it will reduce the tentions between racial communities Sorry for bad English bro Stay safe ❤️ from 🇮🇳

[@sriramprasannaarikapalli472]

There are also batallions that created by British that present in today's Indian army. They do count medals that they achieved during British raj( when they fought for British).

[@TotalHistoryOfficial]

@@peacefollower5026 we went there to clean India’s mess up as they had conflict with Pakistan which was affecting our economic trade, if not the worlds tbh, we provided civil laws while respecting certain traditions of the Indian people by negotiating with them what could and couldn’t be done and it was an agreement (that is why we don’t owe anything) we even had Indian elders control their people who would then report back to a superior Governor of Britain out of respect for the Indian people, the issue I have is why does India and many other past colonies blame the U.K.for their conflicts after we’ve left, when they were already fighting way before we arrived? The only time they weren’t was when we were there as Pakistan knew we were to big for them to handle, in essence we provided much needed security for India which is why we they were fine with us staying. At the end of the day we our allies and trade partners now people need to not forget but to move on from any wrong doings that was done in the past or we won’t progress as a society simple as that.

[@ftumschk]

What a barnstorming display of wit, satire and rhetoric! I enjoyed Dr Tharoor's argument on those grounds alone, regardless of my opinions on the question itself.

[@shubham8264]

There's no tension between India and the UK, today. They are partners in trade and security. Even more so after Brexit

[@saibalbh31]

No they r not , it's only brexit which brought them closer.

[@adityathakur4118]

They have no other choice, because india is the largest market and soon india will overtake the uk economy to become the 4th largest economy globally, and also the growing influence of india on a global scale.

[@saibalbh31]

@@adityathakur4118 indian economy is already bigger than UK.

[@mcgetrekt2388]

@@saibalbh31 No it isn't. India is still rated below the UK in world superpowers. With 1,400,000,000 people Vs 66,000,000. Pretty embarassing.

[@alexpaul9407]

@@mcgetrekt2388 population has little to do with a countries economy beyond how it develops technology to earn that money, and a large population can actually handicap them early in their technological advancement. In that way a small population and small land area aided us as it was necessary to invent things. In India's case a large population and land area meant they never had to advance. Therefore what you've said is incredibly stupid and shows that you are unable to realise that he said that their economy was doing fine until we decided to be dicks. I feel bad for the people your around because they must have a very annoying life.

[@jermaineedwards8384]

What he is saying is facts so not really sure why anyone would take it personally he is talking facts in history why be angry by what he is saying he is just the messenger not the cause of this history or just insulting Britain making up stuff.

[@pw3019]

This is filmed at Oxford University Debating Society - they bring in different speakers to argue for or against a particular subject that is up for debating

[@kartiksharma7674]

The metric system (meter/kilogram/celcius) was internationally adopted in 1940. Before that, everyone used the imperial system (foot/pound/Fahrenheit)!

[@haydengoodall6767]

All the commonwealth nations including India fought as integrated allied units more often than not. Example, ww2 North African campaign. The second battle of El Alamein, Ruweisat ridge, The Indian division & New Zealand division as part of the Eighth army fought side by side in their sector holding up the advance of the mechanised panzer unit and driving the Germans back. This allowed the dominoe effect of losses to afflict the German attack across the entire battle. (simplified story of course). Since then India and its brother country Pakistan have had many sporting interactions through the majesty of Cricket. "where's the ball?" - "India!" (in the air)

[@haydengoodall6767]

Sporting interactions with New Zealand. (my bad🧐🤫).

[@mrawat1496]

Indian soldiers, part of a separate regiment, commanded by British Officers fought alongside British forces right from Singapore, Burma and across Europe. My distant uncle Darwan Singh Negi was a Victoria Cross awardee while fighting in France WW1. Even today the UK maintains a Gorkha Regiment in England.

[@lovelybitofbugle219]

Wow a VC! That is very impressive sir 👏

[@mrawat1496]

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[@SoGal_YT]

Let me know your thoughts on this speech in the comments below. Remember to keep it civil. Personally, I feel reparations open a can of worms, because every country would owe something to someone. History is full of conquerors and empires, but that doesn’t mean we can’t learn from the past or acknowledge when mistakes were made. Like and subscribe if you enjoyed this video 👍🏻 Follow me on social media: Instagram: instagram.com/sogal.yt/ Twitter: twitter.com/SoGal_YT Facebook Page: facebook.com/SoGal-104043461744742 Facebook Group: facebook.com/groups/238616921241608

[@neilgayleard3842]

We don't owe anybody anything. Any country that thinks we do can do one. Come and have a go if you think you'r hard enough.

[@samuel10125]

We don't owe anything regardless of the bad the British Empire created the modern world many of the things we use in our day to day can be traced to a British inventor, trail by jurry, parliamentary Democracy, trade, Trains the list goes on. I refuse to pay reparations for something I was never involved in .

[@pipercharms7374]

I personal don’t think so as I don’t think it’s right for a country to give reparations if what happened was in the past, considering the people in charge of the U.K. and us, have nothing to do with what happened. We personally had nothing to do with it. If countries give reparations for the past then who’s to say how far back that goes? If we should give Reparations then i also demand that all other countries that have a history like ours, should give Reparations for their history too. So would Norway also like to give us Reparations for the villages their Viking’s pillaged? As well? Who says how far back we go anyway? Who has that right? I don’t think all that makes sense. We shouldn’t have responsibility for history we personally did not do and can not control.

[@TheManInTheLongBlackCoat]

To come across the Oxford Union is quite the rabbit hole. Enjoy yourself, anyone who’s anyone has been interviewed and in a building that’s been teaching since 1096.

[@sarahscott5305]

Some of the horrible things the British did in the past could certainly use a heartfelt apology at the very least. I mean, a lot of groups owe us a great deal, too... but I think by and large, we have a lot to answer for.

[@alexpaul9407]

From the UK. I mean he's just not wrong. I don't know how much it would take to make up for it. But an acknowledgement and an apology while not even close to adequate. Would be a step on the direction of repetitions. Perhaps they come in the form of money, perhaps help in other areas. The point isn't how much. We pride ourselves on our moral fibre and yet we seem to be unable to admit when we have done wrong. Even if it wasn't our generation, we have grown up as we have, whether that be rich or poor, off of their suffering. So we should be admitting guilt and show that we hold ourselves to the same standards as everyone else.

[@maheshchatterjee2669]

As per a survey, Britain stole 45 trillion us dollar equal resources from 1765 to 1938. Return it to India at first. Then we show you how can India become first world country.

[@FriedMomo04]

There's actually a video on KZbin where General dyer's grand daughter sits for a conversation with an indian guy whose greatgrandfather was a survivor of the massacre The conversation starts with her asking him if his great grandfather was a looter and that blew my mind.

[@nitingarg2964]

Lots of love from UP India ♥️ may you live long n prosper 🙏😍 keep going on and exploring India ♥️😊

[@nitishsaxena1372]

😂

[@shaunbrown458]

The Indian army would have been made up of native born Indians but under the command of British officers, and as India at the time was a British colony her armed forces, were technically but of the British army under the direct command of the monarchy

[@marcuswardle3180]

That’s a common misnomer of the Army in India. After 1857 when Britain took direct control of India it formed its own army alongside three armies of the Presidencies. These were later amalgamated into the British Indian Army. All the officers were British and trained at Sandhurst. The British Indian’s Army’s motto was Heaven’s Light Our Guide. In 1947-48 when the British Indian Army was being disbanded or being split into two British Indian Army officers were recruited to train the new Pakistani Army. The Indian army was already split into Muslim and Hindu regiments and also regions. You would have Sikh regiments. The British Indian officers would have had to train up to get into the same position in the U.K. Army or take a demotion. If joining the Pakistani Army they would carry over in there original rank.

[@Swindondruid2]

By WWII 19 of the 31 Officers in an Indian Army Battalion were Indian.

[@marcuswardle3180]

@@Swindondruid2 One of the first units to be “Indianized” was the 5th Battalion of the 8th Punjab Regiment. It was just after they had been badly mauled in Waziristan (North West Frontier). They had had 5 officers killed in crossfire in a pass. Afterwards officers would not use the solar topee but wear a turban while on frontier service.

[@adibhau7178]

yes britian should thank the indians who fought for them because of which they are alive today. Otherwise indians had no interest in the war. In india, we respect and consider those people as real indian army who fought against the british instead of those who fought for british. They are called as sepoy's in india.

[@marcuswardle3180]

@@adibhau7178 That’s odd because my Godfather who was originally a British Indian Army officer when he transferred to the new Pakistani Army was told to watch out for one of the Senior Officers in his Regiment as he had been a member of the Free Indian Army formed by the Japanese. It was his fellow Pakistani officers who did not trust him. Many of the British Indian Army captured by the Japanese although offered places in the Free Indian Army refused. It is worth noting that the majority of troops who fought at Kohima were Indian.

[@iansheridan3633]

Of Henry VIII's many wives, Anne of Kleves deserves recognition for skillfully surviving the ordeal and coming out on top.

[@slackmack]

Technically she wasn't a wife. Both were absent from the marriage ceremony which was Annulled.

[@iansheridan3633]

@@slackmack Big plus, she historically declined consummation.

[@neilcampbell9383]

You can find her actual letter to Henry online where she beautifully backs his claim of non-consummation and pledges her undying friendship, loyalty and sisterly love. If I recall correctly he gave her a palace, position and financial security. An intelligent and wise woman.

[@shashanks123]

11:06, so Britain basically owned every soul in india back then. So our army served the Queen. Watch the movie bridge on the reiver quai, there you can see how they tortured the British and the Indian soldiers who served under the queen's name by the Japanese

[@Shaileshbshetty]

Brother you just had one job....it's River not Reiver

[@ProfessorBernardFuck]

bungalow, jopdphurs, dungarees, khaki, lacquer, gymkhana, dinghy, shampoo, veranda and a whole more are all English words of Indian origin.

[@penultimateh766]

And plateau, tableau, aileron, fuselage, camembert, rogue, attaché, chargé d'affaires, envoy, embassy, chancery, diplomacy, communiqué, détente, entente, rapprochement, accord, treaty, alliance, passport, protocol, nacelle, canard, piston, sedan, limousine, and mustard are all English words of French origin. The whole bloody language is borrowed.

[@ProfessorBernardFuck]

@@penultimateh766 it wasn’t really borrowed, it was generally inflicted! We didn’t borrow french, we were invaded by the normans, and french has Latin origins for the very same reason

[@ProfessorBernardFuck]

@Gavin Lisle the origins are all Indian, they all mean the same in either language. I have no idea what the etymology of each word in Indian is though

[@penultimateh766]

@@ProfessorBernardFuck I know! Why can't we just speak the pure, original language of great Britain as spoken by the Saxons! Or was it the Romans. Or the Picts perhaps....

[@jamesoakley4570]

English is a frankinstine language. It a mixture of many languages

[@eldertoguro1]

React to Maratha empire by the channel Epimetheus please

[@liarmask1759]

$45 trillion looted Let that number sink in. But Britain looks down on us as poor

[@lovelybitofbugle219]

No we don't, we love India.

[@dromanov3596]

I don't see India as poor - I do see a very big wealth divide btw I think the wealth divide is getting worse here in the UK

[@Infiniteemptiness]

Not at all we don't hate UK anymore. Today uk is one of closest partner of India and many Indian companies employ uk citizens like Indian companies such as tata are biggest private employers of UK

[@rockygandhi2914]

Indians were forced to fight for British ! We use the kilometres but if he used kilometres it would be in points of measure

[@lesdodoclips3915]

They were never forced to fight

[@rockygandhi2914]

@@lesdodoclips3915 any proof because for my statement I can say that we were fighting a war which wasn’t even ours so why would we even fight it

[@lesdodoclips3915]

@@rockygandhi2914 containing 2.5 million menthe Indian army of ww2 was the largest volunteer force in history. Under imperial legislation, Indians were forbidden from ever being conscripted to fight. Every single Indian soldier fighting for Britain was a volunteer.

[@rockygandhi2914]

@@lesdodoclips3915 sorry to say mate but your fact doesn’t match the ground reality as my own great grandfather was forced to fight against the nazi and use your own logic why would anyone even be interested in fighting a war which was not even theirs

[@lesdodoclips3915]

@@rockygandhi2914 what circumstances was he forced to fight? I hope your not lying here... No it became there war after Japan invaded Burma

[@Johnsavage1]

Oh boy hope people are respectful in the comments.

[@Delogros]

Your first day on the internet? :)

[@harshithsubramaniam5924]

1 mile is 1.6 Km... We use both.

[@vaishnaviabhinav6313]

Translation of your reaction: Most of my viewers are British, so I don't want to make them upset and lose their viewership. Also I don't give a damn about moral obligations and stuff like that because I'm privileged and it doesn't affect my life anyway.

[@jermaineedwards8384]

Britain cononlized alot of countries so the fact that many places share the same stuff as Britain from measurement to accents and speaking English is not really a suprise.

[@africanlipplateandbonenose3223]

Keep in mind videos like this are typically anti-White jewish propaganda.

[@jermaineedwards8384]

@@africanlipplateandbonenose3223 what are you talking about

[@skjames1981]

Indian's never fought to the other country from the past 7000 years or even more. It's because of British people we had to fight because Indian's we working for British army. Now, you can clearly see that everything Indian's has done on our own. Secondly, you see India even the number one country in the world in the next 30 years ❤🙏😊

[@Swindondruid2]

Technically the Indian Army and the British Army were seperate but in practice they operated as one. The big difference is that the British Army only had King's Commissioned Officers (KCO) whilst the Indian Army had King's Commissioned Officers and Viceroy's Commisioned Officers (VCO). In WWII there were usually 12 KCO per battalion and 19 VCO. VCO were Indians who started as enlisted men and were promoted. The three VCO ranks were Jemadar (2Lt), Subadar (Lt) and Subadar-Major (Maj). VCO were always the same caste and tribe as his battalion. After the Great Mutiny in 1857 every Indian Brigade consisted of two Indian battalions and one British Battalion. Also, as a result of the mutiny, only the British Army were allowed artillery, although the Indian Army were allowed mountain pack artillery. In North Africa in WWII there were two Indian Divisions (4th and 5th) plus a New Zealand Division, an Australian Division and a South African Division. And British Divisions of course. But it was in Burma that the Indian Army made their biggest contribution (this theatre also contained a West African Division, an East African Division and Chinese Divisions).

[@andrewclayton4181]

Henry VIII. One of the most well known and popular pieces of English History. He famously had six wives. The first one, Catherine of Aragon ( an area of Spain) lasted about 25 years. When she failed to produce a son and heir, he divorced her and got through his next five wives in about 15 years. Which is quite a rate. His divorce of Catherine brought about the schism with the Roman Catholic church and changed the course of the nation's history. Second wife Anne Bolyn produced the future queen Elizabeth, and third wife Jane Seymour produced a son. Later Edward VI. None of his legitimate children reproduced, so the Tudor dynasty died out not long after his death. A colourful period of history.

[@alanradford3094]

Should the British working class pay for something they had no control, plus there are many different people from all over the world should they forced to pay for something that ancestors may have suffered from?

[@brucebartup6161]

Should the descendants of blsck african royalty who first enslaved black people before selling them on pay reparatons to black arfro Carribeans and afro Americans? you see? the whole idea is ridioculous.

[@chandrukulkarni5866]

Just return the valuable things belonging to India from the London museum... at least u ppl can do that... n don't forget "the Kohinoor" remove it from ur queen's crown n hand it over to the Indian government... at least these things u can do...

[@brucebartup6161]

@@chandrukulkarni5866 and how would any of that help? you really want to bear the security and custodfianship costs of what are really world assets? think you could protect kohinoor from theft? in Delhi? or maybe Mumbai? we have all the tech in the world, and an effing castle (Tower of London) plus the Met (ropolitan Police) plus Army pluds a few Ravens and Beefeaters and still as far as I know the risk is uninsurable. sounds good, but the practicalities say otherwise. your choice.

[@kp-kq7ux]

Why not your working class ancestors were fine when colonies financed there economic and social rise. I mean it is not like British crown controlled every bit of profit earned. Your ancestors got there fair share. But the fact is that even the countries Britain colonized are way past monetary reparations. I mean Countries like USA, Australia,India got way bigger economies than that of UK. The point here is acknowledging the wrongs. Nobody is asking you for money but we definitely ask you not to be ignorant toward your past deeds. That attitude of yours motivates hate.

[@roisinmalone3015]

@@brucebartup6161 Re giving back stolen loot. It's your choice you stole it, you still have it.

[@naveenrathi1997]

Britishers stole $45 trillion from INDIA in 200 years of colonisation. You can also find so many Indian artifects in UK and it's museums are full of Indian artifects. Also, the the most precious "KOHINOOR" diamond was stolen from India , which is now on the crown of Queen of UK. Always Remember :- "Truth is always Bitter". You may accept it or you may offend.

[@thebemusedone1901]

I don't think we'll ever see financial reparations, who would they be paid to, how would they be calculated etc. But there should be some degree of cultural reparations where countries like Britain give greater acknowledgement to the contributions of subjugated peoples to the former British empire. Acceptance than places like India was a) subjugated by force and b) made a huge contribution to modern Britain would be healthy and given everyone involved is long dead you'd think no one would be offended by such a thing.

[@richardwills-woodward5340]

Indians were empire builders too. They did all the same things. They played the game and they lost. India was not a country but an empire not called India at the time. Unlike all other empires however, Britain's was built on trade and entrepreneurialism and was largely an accident. There was no grand plan nor land invading armies. India was never invaded by the British, a point often forgotten (conveniently). Britain increased crop yields by 850% and increased the Indian's life expectancy by decades, brought modern technology, institutional development and democracy India still has today, not to mention a hell of a lot more. India was never a) Subjugated by force b) contributed to technological change here, but more balance of payments.

[@thebemusedone1901]

@@richardwills-woodward5340 is your argument that the East India Company and the Raj was a benign benevolent Empire that didn't subjugate the indigenous population with force?

[@richardwills-woodward5340]

@@thebemusedone1901 The British Empire was (as empires go) benign in and deferential in government. They were under no illusions that foreign people could be turned into British people, hence the title 'subjects', that the British also are. There was no differentiation between a British subject born here and those born abroad (and still isn't to be technical about it). This is why there was such an influx after the War - subjects were subjects, there was no legal differentiation between a British born subject and an Indian born subject. The British governed mostly by local rulers, whom also benefited handsomely from the arrangement (as was the case in all of history; corruption abound, however, it worked from an organisational and administrative point of view) and was better than the alternative. Subjugation happens today, it is condition of human structures. Yes, subjugation happened. So too it happened under the Moguls. The question is which 'subjugation' do you prefer? One that brings increased health, wealth and prosperity, with democracy, trading norms, technology, sports and education etc, or one that beheads, throws widows on fires, and keeps people in tribal war and with medieval infrastructure? We are talking about a world of empires, NOT nation states. England then the UK was the only nation state hundreds of years ago. The British never invaded India. 'The British' is a term few know what they are talking about. The East India Company was a private entity that *paid the mogul Indians* to trade for well over a century before their own empire collapsed. So we are simply talking about lawless territory that had people and ancient cultures, with their own communities, but certainly not free from invasion over thousands of years. The East India Company was (by pure chance) the largest administrator in India when the Mogul Empire collapsed. What would you do? Withdraw? Or would you increase your trading opportunity? Of course you know the answer, which makes you no better than them. It is human nature. It was a very, very long time until the British Crown seized control of the East India Company's territory and India became a Crown possession. This changed the relationship fundamentally. This is also where most anti-British Indians take their historic inaccuracies from and ignore the previous hundreds of years (which is telling in of itself). From this point atrocities did happen, yes. There were atrocities for which the British should be ashamed (and are). There were equally, many good British people out there and whom married Indian women and families, and Indians whom gained a living previously unavailable to them, whom had more food, more technology, more opportunity than ever before. Sadly, like today, there were just too many Indians to make India wealthy like Australia, Canada, Hing Kong, Singapore etc. So benign force? Yes, in historical terms but not by today's standards. When Britain held the reins of power, she also abolished the slave trade (silence over this strangely enough), and created the modern world itself. Does that outweigh the atrocities from corrupt officials (many of whom were greatly criticised at home with many outraged at their behaviour but yes, many not also)? Only if you decide that today atrocities in India make India a horrible place. Only if you believe today the world is disgusting due to the atrocities carried out the moment I write this. Throughout the atrocities carried out today and last week and last decade, is the world moving forward and is it a better place than at any point in human history? I leave you to think about it.

[@micky6j]

@@richardwills-woodward5340 yea but what have the romans ever done for us.

[@richardwills-woodward5340]

@@micky6j Well quite! That is a point you may have seen me make. We were invaded by the Romans and the Danish Kings in France that gave us so much. We embrace genius here it seems and even celebrate progress. We do not get so angry at the Italians as they are now or Danish. We embraced it and improved upon it and even invented so much off the back of civilisational progress. Indeed, even the British country house is modelled on the doric columns of ancient Greece. Britishness is an amalgamation of so much, absorbed and then added to with our own invention and institutional creations which then defined the world we live in today. The British don't seem to have a chip on their shoulder about having been colonised several times from 1066 and before!

[@AndrewD8Red]

It's funny, but in the Second World War, the Indian Army fought and won more battles than the US did and had a generally larger effect on the outcome of the war. The US education system is *VERY* America centric.

[@Soulise1o1]

Can you please go more in-depth how you think india has contributed more to the fall of the axis powers than the U.S ? As a german myself who is quite interested in ww2 i like to think that I have a good understanding of ww2 but I have never seen such a assertion.

[@stuka80]

yes please do tell about your assertion that India has done more than the US to defeat Germany and Japan.

[@colindebourg3884]

@Ally Wakka And don't even get started on The Red Army.

[@AndrewD8Red]

Here is was complaining about the America centric nature of US education and I made the same mistake myself; focusing on Europe, the Middle East and Africa. If you neglect the Pacific theatre, India had a larger input in the war. Taking Japan and the Far East into account, then yes; the US did have a larger input than many other nations.

[@admiralpaco507]

I would ultimately argue that the primary effect that the US had on World War 2 wasn't its combat but its industrial capacity. US made guns, bullets, tanks, aircraft, ships, foodstuffs, clothing was where the US had its primary effect. When it comes to boots on the ground, outside of the Pacific Island hopping campaign every other theatre of the war was either exclusively or heavily reliant on other countries doing the fighting. The continental fronts in the Far East were largely fought by the people of China, India and Burma. The Eastern front in Europe fought almost exclusively by the USSR. North Africa was largely fought by the British and the Commonwealth. The Western Front in Europe, even though it had millions of US soldiers, would not have been possible without the similar number of British and Commonwealth subjects participating on that front, not to mention the immeasurably assistance by the Free French resistance forces. Was US involvement integral to winning World War 2? I would argue yes but not because of US military prowess but from US industrial production. It was US supplies that allowed for other nations (most prominently China, USSR, and Britain with its Commonwealth, including India) to resist and overcome Germany, Italy and Japan. The failure in the US education system is the implication that it was the US military coming in that saved the world when the reality is closer to "we made more stuff" was the major contributor. (As well as not emphasizing that the US alone couldn't have won the war either, it required a team effort.) Edit: I don't mean this as an attack, just additional points in the larger discussion.

[@AndrewD8Red]

Once again, another great reaction video. I admire you for wanting to learn more about this, more than most of my fellow countrymen would like to hear. Good on you, beautiful lady.

[@TheUstasha101]

The lecture was a waste of time, every country at one point in history was invaded or the invader nobody today is serious about demanding reparations from the Mongol empire, the Ottoman empire, and the many islamic caliphates (those countries are smart and are proud of their history) even though their empires were extremely violent and damaging to the conquered peoples who lived under them. The only countries that are dumb enough to be guilt tripped into paying reparations are European countries (specifically western european countries).

[@AndrewD8Red]

@@TheUstasha101 So you wish modern European nations were more like the Ottomans et al?

[@TheUstasha101]

@@AndrewD8Red That's not what I meant. My point was - it would better for western european people to have more of a backbone and national pride like modern day Turkey, Russia, Japan, China, Israel, Poland, Hungary ect. My people ( southern slavs) have been oppressed and plundered for nearly 500 years by the Ottoman empire, until we liberated ourselves in 1912. Despite this we want no compensation from modern day Turks and have nothing against them celebrating their history and culture (unless they are openly insulting us of course).

[@MarkVrem]

@@TheUstasha101 True plus also the children that were kidnapped into slavery or for the lucky ones armed services like The Janniserries. I forgot what the tax was called where a child had to be given to the Ottoman Empire lol

[@TheUstasha101]

@@MarkVrem danak u krvi or blood tribute in english.

[@noicezzzzzzzzzzzzx4081]

We use kilometres in India

[@adibhau7178]

English language has many words from indian language sanskrit mostly in modified form in addition to greek, latin and french. I do not even consider english language the language of brits.

[@paulmunn9699]

i worked with the gurkhas while serving in the british army great and brave soldiers.

[@DropdudeJohn]

Yeah and they are Nepalese

[@DropdudeJohn]

Yeah and they are Nepalese

[@untruelie2640]

This is an interesting discussion. Speaking as a German, the issue of not paying reparations came up here recently as well. Greece claims that Germany owes them at least 289 Billion Euros as reparations for war crimes, massacres, etc. during WW2. Some people argue that they are "just greedy", but I don't think that this is true. Whole villages (on Crete for example) were wiped out by the Wehrmacht. After 1945, West Germany (the Federal Republic of Germany) postponed paying reparations to Greece until "a final peace treaty would be signed". In 1990, when the 2+4 Treaty was signed "instead of a peace treaty", Greece was left out of the negotiations and now the federal government claims that "it's too late". I think it is a real shame. The FRG paid money to Israel and Poland, but I think it was just a cheap way of buying ourselves out of being an international outcast. Communist East Germany (the German Democratic Republic) paid nothing at all and didn't feel itself to be responsible for the Nazi atrocities, because the party government claimed that it was anti-fascist and that all former Nazis were in West Germany. (In reality, many former members of the Nazi party lived in the East and many of them were even members of the ruling communist party). This denial is still troublesome, even 30 years after reunification, because Neo-Nazis and similar groups are quite strong in the former eastern part of Germany. The majority of people - so to speak - never had to reflect on the crimes of the past, the crimes which were commited by and in the name of the german people. Since Britain is plagued by similar problems ("Brexit" and whatnot), it should consider facing it's own past.

[@graemehossack7401]

As a Brit I have to confess his points are fundamentally true. The whole European colonisation of the world never benefited those being colonised, just ask the native Americans. The argument is very simplified as it is an eight minute statement to the Oxford Union, designed to start a debate.

[@mrawat1496]

Yes he is absolutely correct, unfortunately people do not like to discuss them in public. Our parents and grand parents lived through those times. You should read An Era of Darkness - The British Empire in India by Shashi Tharoor. It gives a detailed account of the British presence in India.

[@rengarajr3774]

India gethu 💪 and Shashi Tharoor

[@koolk8077]

What Hitler did to Jews, Churchill did to Indians 😭 killed 4 millions Indians starving them to death. He said "I hate Indian race, those are beastly people" Extreme Xenophobia

[@kushagrapal8689]

Avatar which is the highest grossing movie of all time. Surprisingly the name of this movie is also borrowed from hindi which means the manifestation of a released soul in bodily form on earth.

[@MrSammotube]

In the UK, we use imperial and metric systems, but probably slightly favour (favor) imperial in daily life.

[@mutesafezone]

Well easy for u to say let history stay in the past. For the losing side with the remaining effects they still strugle to this day, its hard

[@alexpaul9407]

I understand this but honestly am unsure how we could make up for it as like he said no amount of money would fix the problem. Honestly once explained to them I think most Brits would agree with me that we should be helping as best we can. But sadly because of the nature of the media of our country it's difficult to tell people. I can't say that my country will start to do anything about this. But I can say that for what little It's worth I apologize for the damage my country has done.

[@mutesafezone]

@@alexpaul9407 but debt is debt and its has interest on it just like credit cards. U have the sum, the guy had said the sum. Hard to pay in today's money? Well, thats how hard our lives are

[@alexpaul9407]

@@mutesafezone I'm aware and I'd like to pay it but frankly I don't know if the rest of my country will agree or if we could find the money in the first place. Because as much as paying a debt is important I would not simply pay it at the sacraficing of letting my own people fall to starvation themselves. As much as I'd like to pay a dept I'd rather be in debt and have my country survive even if morally bankrupt. Perhaps not a place or a people most would be able to fight for but I have an attachment to my country as horrible we can be that I cannot explain.

[@denverbritto5606]

Nice response, I appreciate your humility to acknowledge you don't know the full story before leaping to judgement. I would recommend Dr Zareer Masani's speech at the Union on a similar topic or even his conversation with Shashi Tharoor on this speech and his book. Both are available on youtube.

[@paulmaxey6377]

I don't know enough about India and British rule to really comment about it, but as for Indians fighting for the British during the World Wars there were all Indian units. Also not necessarily that these are strictly Indians as they are from Nepal, but the Gurkhas have fought for the British Army since the 1815. If you have time maybe have a look at them, their motto is 'It is better to die, then live a coward' and their war cry is 'Ayo Gurkhali' which translates into 'The Gurkhas are here'. One of the British generals said "If anyone says they aren't scared of dying, they are either mad or they are a Gurkha". One true example of their heroism was during the second world war when a Gurkha protecting his comrades from enemy soldiers had his hand blown off with a grenade. He stuck his Kukri (their famous knife they wear with pride) into the ground in front of him and shouted "No-one will past my knife!". He then single-handedly held off every advance from the enemy until he was relieved the following morning. As I say not strictly about India but well worth researching about. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJbWaHWaqadjnZI kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWnTen2dodiMi6c kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3-qoGmrnrxja6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5CwnWWgpd2YsK8

[@kp-kq7ux]

Gurkha's are not all Nepali. Indian states of Uttarakhand, West Bengal and UP also got fair numbers of Gurkha citizens...

[@paulmaxey6377]

@@kp-kq7ux Thank you for that correction, I have always heard that they come from Nepal. But I did hear on one video I watched that there are several regions where they draw their recruitment from. Also that if I am correct (you will correct me if I am wrong :P) some of them are recruited into the Indian army, is that right? But if some are, as you say, from Indian states then maybe if SoGal wants to react and learn about them, it will give her a reason ;).

[@kavitasachan5037]

@@paulmaxey6377 yes they are also not in Indian army but not forget a out battle of Saragarhi u should check it out it is said to be one of the greatest battle 21 Indian soldier protected a castle from 10000 Afghan soldiers but they all died one by one because Britain not send reinforcements

[@Shaileshbshetty]

I know many of British people of this generation don't know how many Indians fought in WW2 around the world it's not their fault coz they have never been teached or told about it unless they self explore, and about Colonialism and it's atrocity, we know recent generation isn't responsible for it for sure no individual is but the Monarch is the chair comes with burden and responsibilities, India never receive any apologies our freedom fighters and still mention terrorists (for example founding fathers still being mention terrorists)

[@S0vietPanda]

Simple answer no - Does Norway/Denmark owe us reparations for the vikings?

[@antigov7839]

I meannnn we did a lot worse to India then the vikings did to us if we are being honest

[@S0vietPanda]

@@antigov7839 i didnt, you didnt, your parents never. You cant blame current generations for the past

[@Nathan-1234]

@@antigov7839 the vikings did a lot of messed up things

[@applesandpairs1669]

@@antigov7839 are you joking? The vikings literally pillaged. They came to kill and rob, they didn't build railways and schools.

[@applesandpairs1669]

@@antigov7839 But I certainly don't think Danes should feel bad in any way because its just history.

[@piersmartin6946]

Don't know if Britain owes India money but it pays it in international aid and university places

[@joenelson4235]

SoGal please read this one. I believe that India is doing what Argentina like to do, distract it's population from their problems by pointing out that all of their nations problems come from foreigners. That India was some garden of eden and would still be if not for the British. Essentially Hindu (extreme right) nationalists are re writing history for political purposes which is not great. In regards to reparations- the people alive today committed no crime so no. The history has been manipulated yes India went from 25% to 5% so did China which wasn't a colony, this is due to the industrial revolution happening and machines replacing the importance of mass labour for producing the cheapest goods. The UK is guilty of forcing free trade on India when its merchants were losing to British factories (the first in the world) to be sure. The real question is why frame it as India vs Britain? 1% of the British the elite upper class benefitted and 1% of the Indians were the royalty who were stripped of power. 99% of Brits were working in factories, as soldiers, sailors or in the field just to survive. 99% of Indians were no worse off being used by foreign elites as by their own. One thing to do is read history with the morales of the day, e.g. The British didn't repress indian culture (although they forbid throwing a woman on her husbands funeral pyre) unlike the French who forced Catholacism, the Mughals who forced Islam on India or the Belgiums who took a childs hand if you didn't pay your taxes. In this company the British were relatively the lesser of several evils. Furthermore the British did have some benefits (simply by extracting resources for their own use) they built canals, railways, schools (to teach a middle class of administrators who would help rule), hospitals for the same, roads, courts, and in time it was handed over peacefully. In fact many of the ethnic minorities benefited by co-ruling alongside the British such as Sikhs whose independance movement is currently outlawed. Lastly, this man Dr Shashi Tharoor (who wrote books that the nationalists wanted to hear for money) has also been removed from office as a Minister due to corruption and bribery charges. He later fell in love with a Pakistani ISI agent. When his wife threatened to go public with the information- she posted hinting he had cheated online- the day after she turned up dead. She was buried but later the coroner publicly stated he was pressured to say she died of natural causes when in fact she had been poisoned and strangled.

[@SH-mq8hh]

Good post, interesting to read the context. Also, didn't know that about Shashi Tharoor. Sounds like he has some skeletons in the closet!

[@SoGal_YT]

I read all the comments : ) Thank you for your background info. It's a complex subject that I've got to learn a lot about. I plan to watch one of the opposing speeches as well. I also don't know anything about Tharoor other than what I briefly read about him. The reason I did this video is because I keep getting requests for it, and I thought it would be an interesting look at how some people perceive the UK's relationship with India. As an American, I don't feel like it's my place to judge anything, but I do generally agree that the idea of reparations is flawed.

[@matchbox1275]

You contradict in your pitiful propaganda that it is the so called Hindu(extreme right) nationalists that are rewriting the history. The speaker in the video brands himself as Hard Leftist(domestically) and these are his thoughts. And if you think that these so called nationalists support Mr. Tharoor in any way you are quite delusional in stating that. Anyway, it was nice to hear the perspective of a White Christian(Far right Colonialist) Nationalist who wants to whitewash the events. While talking about Sikhs, talk about Irish, Scots and Welsh(language issues). For such small diverse groups you sure have messed up a lot in treating them. Changing history? You mean the history that was written and propagated by the victor? Cool.

[@applesandpairs1669]

I love the reaction to this 😂 Everybody chill! We're all friends here 🇬🇧🤝🇮🇳😁

[@jordanleigh6481]

@@sebastianbolzan9826 no 100 years plus

[@FergusMacEwan]

@@jordanleigh6481 I'm pretty sure that Britain was there in India in 1921 🙄

[@jordanleigh6481]

@@FergusMacEwan most of the fighting went on when the east India company was a thing. Once the company was shut down because it was no longer needed brittish and Indians were fairly civil to each other

[@jordanleigh6481]

@@FergusMacEwan and the India company was shut down mid early 1800s

[@FergusMacEwan]

@@jordanleigh6481 But still Britain was there in India till 1947

[@siddharthsatpathy4568]

Yes Indians participated in the world wars.But they were forced to do so.They fought under the British Indian Army. Movies like Rangaroot are made about indians fighting a war and losing lives which isn't there's to fight.

[@lester1773]

If you want to grow your Indian audience, then learn about Cricket. They make good Patreons

[@lester1773]

@@neonblade4659 lol

[@Sahil-ie3ie]

@Abubakar Mohuddin Did allah tell u that, bcz last I checked India had more muslims than pakistan..

[@sidhantjasrotia220]

@@Sahil-ie3ie burn

[@brucebartup6161]

You ask several questions: 1. a: The counter argument: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZu3hJqGa7GgZqM b: tbe whole debate kzbin.info/aero/PL2Q4CdDrPSMX7vOk3nVNC8Ce852FKYXgy 2. Were Indian troops integrated into the British Armed forces? Ans Yes but in their own formations rwguiments etc. Examples Gurkha Rifles, from wikipedia This field force was divided into two armies: the Northern Army, which stretched from the North-West Frontier to Bengal with five divisions and three brigades under command, and the Southern Army which ranged from Baluchistan to southern India and it in turn had four divisions under command and two formations outside the subcontinent.[10] The two armies contained 39 cavalry regiments, 138 infantry battalions (including 20 Gurkha),[7] a joint cavalry-infantry unit, the Corps of Guides, three sapper regiments and 12 mountain artillery batteries.[4] Were paid less but got similar medals, all volunter force no conscription. Active Mesopotamia (Iraq) and middle eAst until 1919 ( Ottman empire came to terms) also some on Western Front 3. Mile: the unit would be from the official report of the time which would have used the British unit of measure 4. What do I think: ~Reparations are due if a harm has been done contrary or outside of an agreement and if such a harm has led directly to a beneffit.to the party causing the harm Was harm done : Yes but not at all simply. Some good was done too as defined by indians then and now. Was an agreement breached :no iNdians (unwisely) volnteered for the sake of the wealth the British brought (of course there were inidents, and a mutiny, but ovrall th realtioinship while no way mutually respectful andf in every way exploiitative was voluntary) Was there a benefit directly flowing fron that harm : no. All hram swaa a misrtake, profited Britain not one whit.

[@ShwetaSingh-mx7ll]

British people should read more books and archived documents. It seems like they intentionally try to be ignorant about these things.

[@jameseuwen3253]

Ur welcome for the medical equipment Mrs curry

[@ShwetaSingh-mx7ll]

@@jameseuwen3253 your welcome for the loot of 200+ years.

[@ShwetaSingh-mx7ll]

@@jameseuwen3253 and it's Miss not Mrs but I can let this go cause assumption is an inbuilt trait for you guys.

[@jameseuwen3253]

@@ShwetaSingh-mx7ll your country is a pure joke right now... covid gonna get you all, and for some reason we are saving you all. 🤣😂🤣😂 Get bk to ur slum

[@nitishsaxena1372]

@@jameseuwen3253 this is what nationalism does. It makes you laugh at the misery of others. Worse, at the misery of dying people who you've never met.

[@andrewclayton4181]

The Oxford University debates are a regular thing. They often debate thorny, controversial , and topical matters. Famously, just before WWII , they debated and concluded, that it wasn't a good thing to fight and die for your country. A few short years later, many were doing that very thing. The speaker was on the nail with all his arguments. India was exploited by the British for the benefit of the British, and a lot of the negative effects are glossed over or ignored here. At that time many other nations were indulging in similar practices. It's not only a European failing, the Aztec, the Inca, the Mongols, and others have all established empires and controlled minorities for their own benefit. The Europeans managed it on a global scale because they had developed the technology. I agree with the speaker's last point. It would be invidious to impoverish this generation to pay for the misdeeds of our forefathers, but an acknowledgement or an official apology wouldn't go amiss. When the colonies supplied troops, they became a part of the British army, but they formed their own regiments. The Indians wore turbans with their issued battledress. The senior officers would be British. In the same way we had Polish squadrons in the RAF and Australian ships in the navy. The most famous regiment, in the British army, from that part of the world is the Nepalese Ghurkas. They built themselves a formidable reputation, and were immensely proud to serve in the British army. However it is only recently that they have been given the same rights to pensions and benefits that others who served are entitled to. The joke about fertiliser is that it is frequently crap ( to use a more polite term!) Which he implied, also described his opponents arguments. Great video. It deserves a wider airing! If I think of anything else I'll add it here or on fb.

[@brucebartup6161]

Great comment.i especally like the debate on islam that was held right ater the attasck at Woolwich. Mehdi Hasan's suming up was masterpiec of influential speech. Though personaly I was even more impressed by the guy summkng up the case against. A really valuable debate. so rare kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYiyfa2PjsSNqrs

[@onkarkulkarni24]

10:30 I Doubt any Indian history is taught in America

[@zaftra]

No army was amassed by the UK on Indians shores and took it by force, unlike Romans, Vikings, Normans, heard of them? ALL invaded the UK by force, do we bleat about it? and demand anything? no. We just take it and accept it as part of our history that actually added to the country along with any violence (proportionally way more than happened in India) that happened in back then. Again, UK's Empire grew out of mutual trade, it's why it was so successful.

[@MarkVrem]

Roman invasion of Britain happened over 1000 years before Britain's colonization of India. Compared to India's independence in something like1950. The 2 events are not the same lol. What was the British Isles 50-100 years after the Romans lost control of it? A big mess is probably about right. But I suppose all the roads the Romans built, helped the next group of invaders or arrivals spread out and take over faster.

[@zaftra]

@@MarkVrem Indian independence was 1947. Trying to pick out your garbled English (though I see it's probably your second language) You think a violent invasion that a happened 1000 is irrelevant, moreover, the Roman invasion was good becasue it provided roads so others could violently invade better and quicker; so the invasion of Britain was a good thing then? If there was any doubt Anglophobia was behind the attacks on the UK there you have the evidence. But I agree they were not the same, the invasions of the UK were purely violent affairs, UK colonization weren't.

[@MarkVrem]

@@zaftra You made absolutely no additional point to your argument except to double down on the idea that Bretton, Celts, and Picts were violently invaded but the Bengalis and the remnants of the Southern Indian Confederation and the Mughals remnants of Delphi and other Kingdoms in the north were not. .... If that is such a fact as you believe it is. Then why do you guys over in England insist on studying so much on whether the Anglo-Saxon was a migration or an invasion? and secondly. How does a trading post comparable to a fortress end up turning into ruling and controlling a whole sub-continent without any invading. Cause for one, it definitely wasn't a migration lol. It doesn't without some serious revisionist history. lol

[@zaftra]

@@MarkVrem Who mentioned migration? I know I didn't. There is no revisionist here, the British empire grew from trade, in fact, other videos that SoGal has reacted to have also stated this quite clearly. Of course defensive positions were created, this was to protect the trade routes from others. I think it's pretty commonly accepted that the Romans, Normans and Vikings invaded Britain, this isn't up for debate. As as been pointed out, there was, even at it's peak, around 10,000 British people in a country of 450,000,000, this is not an invasion, even today, nearly 50% of the indigenous population of London has been displaced by none British born individuals, virtually 4 million in one city alone and even this isn't considered an invasion, so 10,000 certainly isn't My point about the Britain it has been violently invaded by the Romans, Vikings and Normans over a span of probably a thousand years, ever heard of serfs? pretty much slaves, serfdom only came to an end in the 15/16 centuries in the west, the East India company was founded in 1600, so serfdom really wasn't has far back as you claim in the west, and certainly not centuries before British interest in India. Britain WAS invaded, there was violence and deaths with those invasions, not only do we not whine about it, we acknowledge it happens, it happens in the past and those invasions actually bought positives in the long run, many more positives, as the the Empire did in the world. There's only one person being selective with their historical facts here, and it isn't me.

[@MarkVrem]

@@zaftra Your story makes as much sense as the Russian story of inviting Viking overlords to help form their nation LOL. I don't need to tell you cause you know already; blood was shed. People were overthrown and an empire was established. Basically, all wars are either because of 2 things. 1) Security or 2) Economic Reasons. By your logic, the Spanish conquistadors did not invade Latin America. Why? Because they used native allies to help them overthrow the Aztecs and Civil war to aid in the conquest of the Incas.

[@FergusMacEwan]

React to 'History of the entire world I Guess' 😁👍

[@emotionalIntelligence2078]

US didn't apologize for nuking civilians in japan. Even after 75 yrs, Japan expressed concerns but it received.... "Ah! Let's move past history"

[@ayushrawat9480]

There are 900+ Indian words in the Oxford dictionary. cash is also Indian words, colonizer countries always hide the truth otherwise the atrocities they have done will come out.

[@nitishsaxena1372]

Bruh the colonialism was obviously bad but that's how languages evolve. Every language has hundreds and thousands of loan words.

[@thana64]

@@nitishsaxena1372, if they are loan words, I wonder when they would be returned. Like what Dr Shashi stated, even the word “loot” was looted from Indians.

[@shouvanikdey1503]

Not only loot but also dacoit, jungle, shackle, Avater, lantern, palanquin, band, karma, darma, the saint ( came from hindi word Santa... Sadu santa), three or 3 ( came from trii example.. tri dev), behaviour came from bebahar, pajama, trigonometry came from trikonmiti etc.... There are so many.... 🤷🏻

[@Londoneye57]

its history - live with it and move on

[@FergusMacEwan]

How old are you?

[@user-cl9bd1tz3b]

The best Part is that even Britain doesn't know where the hell did they spent $45 Trillion although this figure is by adding Inflation but still it worthed that much in the colonial times so where did they spent probably world war 1 and 2

[@goranshsharma8458]

all the facts are right , you cant lie on camera 😂

[@Wolfways]

No need to watch the video. No, Britain does not owe India anything. The were just one of many conquered countries by various peoples and should get over it. Btw, his speech is very biased. Churchill could not initially send food to India because the planes needed to transport it were being used to defend India from Japan. If he had used them for transporting food many more Indians would have died. But he did eventually get food to them. Oh and crops had been destroyed by a tornado and the place they usually got aid from, Burma, was taken by the Japanese, so that's not even remotely Britains fault.

[@adityamukherjee2426]

As an Indian I can understand the sentiments of Indians regarding British colonialism. Of course the British did horrible things to their colonies including India but I don't think that we should blame the present Britsh govt or the present British generation for this. I feel that they aren't responsible for the wrongs which were done to us some 80-100 years back by their ancestors. I can only say one thing, let's stop fighting and focus on the bigger picture and the geopolitical situation which is currently going on in the Indo-Pacific. Currently, India and the UK have a very good strategic partnership. We are even co-operating in the space sector. My point is that let's stop fighting and become good partners because we have a common enemy. I am not taking the name of the country but all I can say is that the country which I am referring to is wholly responsible for Covid-19 and it's wreaking havoc in the Indo-Pacific. India and the United Kingdom must team up to fight with that satanic country in every sector. And the good thing is that we can see the positive results in this matter. India and UK are already doing a lot of things together including cooperation in the defence and the space sector. So let's keep going that way and let's fight this satanic country together 👍👍My best wishes to all the Indians and the British people who will read my comment Oh one more thing:- I would love it if the UK and France also become members of the Quad then that will be a really good thing for all of us

[@richardwills-woodward5340]

I absolutely agree with most of the above, but Britain's involvement in India needs facts teaching over there. Britain never invaded India - didn't happen. Britain was paying the Indian Empire to trade for well over a century before the empire there collapsed in the east. The largest company became de-facto administrator and its private army fought off state-backed empire builders to dominate today's India (a country that didn't exist like most countries were not countries back then, but empires). Atrocities did happen, but they happen everywhere and all the time by corrupt officials. Over all, the British increased crop yield (for Indians not for our benefit) by 850%, increased life expectancy by decades, introduced so much I don't know where to start. Does that justify an empire today? No. Did it justify an empire then? Yes. Why? Everyone had empires, and you either yielded or had one of your own. The difference is, Britain's was an accidental empire. It was built on trade not land invasion by and large, by entrepreneurs much braver than anyone today. The Indians did just many bad things as the British did. The only difference was technology which enabled Britain to expand around the world, but also remember Britain abolished the global slave trade on its watch - a policy not matched by any other civilisation before or since. Today the slave trade is thriving and no-one wants to even mention it. So was Britain bad for India? Or anywhere it had a footprint? Most on the left or on the race baiting side or anglophobes don;t like the answer to that. It reminds a little of the question "What did the Romans ever do for us?" The British were invaded by Romans but we like that fact, and don't complain about it. They brought a far more advanced civilisation than anywhere in the world at the time. We embraced it. The British country house is modelled on ancient Roman and Greek architecture.

[@adityamukherjee2426]

@@richardwills-woodward5340 yeah you're right. Whatever differences we have, let's keep it aside and let's work together. For all I know is that India and the UK right now are great partners and Boris Johnson had even told that "India is Britain's biggest strategic partner" and together we can both stop a satanic country like China which is responsible for Covid-19 and now is making aggression all over the Indo-Pacific

[@adityamukherjee2426]

@@richardwills-woodward5340 I agree that probably differences between the British people and the Indians will remain but we know how to forgive and we also know how to co-operate and work together. I pray that India and UK work together across many sectors like vaccines and defence and strategic partnership. You had even given us the contract for producing the Oxford- AstraZeneca vaccine which is currently produced by the Serum Institute of India (the largest manufacturer of vaccines in the world) and I whole heartedly thank the British govt for that. Right now, my friend, we have to work together to end the assertiveness of the satanic so called Communist country China

[@matchbox1275]

@@adityamukherjee2426 . India also has the Covaxin produced by the domestic R&D giant Bharat Biotech.

[@richardwills-woodward5340]

@@adityamukherjee2426 I don't disagree. Our join issue is China. We both have major issues regards that country's government right now. They are a real and threat to our way of life. India and UK should be working as tightly as possible. It has to be in all our interests for India to grow into a superpower as soon as possible. If that cannot be all GDP based that soon, it certainly needs to be militarily, and I am sure the UK will be happy to provide as much firepower to India as she needs. India is the ONLY country that can step in China's way to provide a buffer to their plans. As I have said in other places, India is the country I support most in the world.

[@byronofrothdale]

I think "pijama" is actually Farsi (Persian).

[@brandonatchison4769]

I recommend you watch/react to The British Crusade Against Slavery by Sargon of Akkad just to contrast this speech and show more of the other perspective. Sargon is a bit controversial but his video is fairly well done and informative.

[@SH-mq8hh]

Good idea, The British Crusade Against Slavery by Sargon of Akkad is a very interesting video and a subject that has been buried in the past. Sogal, you should definitely watch this

[@SoGal_YT]

Definitely plan to get to this.

[@lesley585]

Couldn't agree more!

[@michaelrae297]

@Gavin Lisle Sargon is certainly a better source than a foul mouthed Scottish comedian - but it's a low bar :-)

[@calum5975]

@@SoGal_YT I'd honestly be very careful, at least if you review this video please be aware of just how controversial and questionable his (Sargon's) historical opinions can be. I've seen other youtube react channels watch that video and take it at face value. While the video is largely correct in what it says, he ommits many details that go against his narrative (as he often does as an individual), and the video is generally a pretty old-school interpretation of the British Empire. Unlike some people would have people believe, there's generally a reason why we as historians constantly revise how we interpret history, and it's because views his present an unfair narrative. It's an interesting topic, but there are better, more nuanced and fair historical videos about that topic than Sargon of Akkad. As someone who studies this exact topic in University, i'd hate to see another reviewer duped by him, he's generally not qualified to speak about such things and it shows in what he says. Sorry if this sounds a bit entitled or condescending, it's simply a shame to see how much of the history community on youtube has been hijacked by political figures on all sides. There are simply better neutral videos for this. I thought I should simply let you know just how much of a risky move such a video could be :)

[@lilacfiddler1]

There is no excuse for British colonialism - its a historical fact, and needs to be assessed on its consequences rather than the motives of the colonisers. India was certainly impoverished by some British actions, and to a lesser extent enriched by unification and some development. The real losers were the working people in India and in Lancashire.

[@paulsaha2242]

Thank you from India. 🙏☺ People are finally talking about this. Also, Please react to "How Britain looted 45 Trillion Dollars from India through trains." That is a very good video to give you perspective. It's by a famous US media outlet "Vice". Please please react. ☺ Love from India ❤️ 🇮🇳

[@Neelinmact]

Why don’t you watch the other side of the debate too and talk about that

[@saikoushik7239]

British empire committed atrocities against people of color and they still have the trophies of their victims in a museum to relive their dominance against people of color and atrocities they committed to those people.

[@jermaineedwards8384]

Most of the world uses metric America is almost the only country that doesn't.

[@PrateekSharmaTheKid]

British India was a separate nation than the UK with its own army. Obviously it was not a sovereign nation.

[@kevinnorton7759]

MY GG GRANDMOTHER WAS INDIAN. BRITISH RULE WAS SAID TO BE VERY LIGHT, LETTING THE PEOPLE GET ON WITH THEIR DAYLY LIVES. AS FOR MAKING BEGGARS. ARE THERE NO BEGGARS ON THE STREETS OF INDIA TODAY, AND EMERGING INTO ONE OF THE WORLDS LARGEST ECONOMIES. THE BRITISH DID TAKE BUT THEY ALSO GAVE. SCHOOLS, SPORTS, MILITARY KNOWLEDGE AND MORE. THE INDIAN PEOPLE WERE BASICALLY LEFT TO GOVERN THEMSELVES. CHECKED ON FROM TME TO TIME. WHY SHOULD ANY NATION OF TODAY HAVE TO PAY REPARATIONS FOR THE PAST. IF WE WENT DOWN THAT ROUTE THE WHOLE WORLD WOULD OWE EVERYONE. ONE BIG CIRCLE.

[@goodman9585]

You have a lot of British viewers I guess. So makes sense they got offended and can't accept the facts that don't praise them.

[@richardwills-woodward5340]

Britain's involvement in India needs facts teaching over there. Britain never invaded India - didn't happen. Britain was paying the Indian Empire to trade for well over a century before the empire there collapsed in the east. The largest company became de-facto administrator and its private army fought off state-backed empire builders to dominate today's India (a country that didn't exist like most countries were not countries back then, but empires). Atrocities did happen, but they happen everywhere and all the time by corrupt officials. Over all, the British increased crop yield (for Indians not for our benefit) by 850%, increased life expectancy by decades, introduced so much I don't know where to start. Does that justify an empire today? No. Did it justify an empire then? Yes. Why? Everyone had empires, and you either yielded or had one of your own. The difference is, Britain's was an accidental empire. It was built on trade not land invasion by and large, by entrepreneurs much braver than anyone today. The Indians did just many bad things as the British did. The only difference was technology which enabled Britain to expand around the world, but also remember Britain abolished the global slave trade on its watch - a policy not matched by any other civilisation before or since. Today the slave trade is thriving and no-one wants to even mention it. So was Britain bad for India? Or anywhere it had a footprint? Most on the left or on the race baiting side or anglophobes don;t like the answer to that. It reminds a little of the question "What did the Romans ever do for us?" The British were invaded by Romans but we like that fact, and don't complain about it. They brought a far more advanced civilisation than anywhere in the world at the time. We embraced it. The British country house is modelled on ancient Roman and Greek architecture.

[@JackRabbit002]

@@richardwills-woodward5340 You should of been in that room to argue in Britain's defense in all honesty Lad!

[@MarkVrem]

@@richardwills-woodward5340 Roman invasion of Britain happened over 1000 years before Britain's colonization of India. Compared to India's independence in like 1950. The 2 events are not the same lol

[@pipercharms7374]

I think its the fact people seem to blame us for this when it was part of our past that we personally including our government has nothing to do with. It feels like to us anyway, we're essentially saying sorry or paying for something we had nothing to do with, other than being born or living in Britain. I don't understand why countries should say sorry for their past that they have nothing to do with. If this was MUCH more recent where our government and people did have something to do with the British empire personally then I would understand but we don't. We can't control our past, no countries can, so why should countries pay or apologise for something they had nothing to do with currently? If we need to say sorry and give pay then every country that did something nasty in their past should and who is to say how far back that goes?Who the hell can say, this country should apologise for something they did to this country a hundred years ago but the crime that was committed against this country 150, or 200 years or more then somehow doesn't matter as much as the 100 years ago, despite most if not all people having anything to do with our past in that100 years ago, area are dead or not in charge, though likely dead.

[@richardwills-woodward5340]

@@MarkVrem Of course they are. The year is not important.

[@wwciii]

The Indians were Commonwealth, like Austrailia, New Zeland, Canada, South Africa, and many others.

[@sahilkale9348]

if britain is made to pay these reparations even after selling every single piece of there land britain wont be having money left for buying potatoes for there queen

[@jameseuwen3253]

Not instead we provide you with medical equipment for ur covid problem Ur welcome

[@sahilkale9348]

@@jameseuwen3253 my friend hope u know india is the biggest exporter of covid vaccine so if we are in a problem sooner or later whole world will be in a problem ur welcome too

[@jameseuwen3253]

@@sahilkale9348 it's also the biggest exporter of covid right now 🤣😂

[@sahilkale9348]

@@jameseuwen3253 things are getting better day by day and would be stable in few weeks

[@jameseuwen3253]

@@sahilkale9348 lol course it will be 200,000 dead.. You just keep wishing that 👍🏻

[@SHAURYA181]

No India does not uses imperial system like miles ,pound and Fahrenheit so it is not used in general life but majority of Indians learned that in school or aware due to American TV series.

[@rahulsaran836]

You cannot comment on this whether they right or not, but in your other video "Reacting to Britain Does Not Owe Reparations | Prof. John MacKenzie". You literally support the colonial mindset. You even did not made any fact check on the unreliable source mention by that English man. Such a bias. No wonder what your ancestors did to the native Americans. Absolutely barbaric then and now by denying the truth!

[@harshithsubramaniam5924]

British Ruled India during the world wars. So the Indians did not fight independently, but they fought for the British.

[@blaiseburrows748]

Henry the 8th's wives in a nutshell: Divorced, Beheaded, Died, Divorced, Beheaded, Survived. 😂

[@Shreasvamankar3948]

From India

[@Shreasvamankar3948]

@Ally Wakka oh give us our 45 trillion dollars back

[@FergusMacEwan]

@@Shreasvamankar3948 nice one bro

[@sarahdhawan4004]

@@Shreasvamankar3948 👍

[@JackRabbit002]

Dollars not Pound Sterling!? No because you'll probably spend it on another rocket! 🤣 Nah greetings from Blighty man, the Nation that's always there to be centre of debate and discussion!

[@FergusMacEwan]

@@JackRabbit002 Jealousy has no cure 😂 UK's future is in the hands of India and China (Maybe USA)

[@aaronnrodgers]

nah, there is no tension between the UK and India today. the UK is one of the closest allies of India. we are bitter about the history, but there no bad blood today

[@tanmoy4267]

If u dont even know Indians fought in world war 1....why are u so confidently watching this video ? I wouldnt be so confident in attending a class of advanced physics when i dont know the basics...mebbe not a waste of ur time...but definitely mine...U were not taught in school is not an acceptable argument in this case.

[@joeloates1685]

He makes some good points and I think that he did so in a pretty respectful way.

[@vecust]

You were not taught about the Indians being in WW1 and WW2 because they were under the British rule. Hence, Britain took credit of all the soldiers they sent out for war. Including many Caribbean countries (Jamaica and so on) and African countries which were under the British rule at the time, the people there had to fight on behalf of the Queen. So, all these Indians, Caribbean people and Africans were part of the British army.

[@alexsmithStudios]

Sure, India are welcome to all of the money that the UK currently doesn’t have.

[@matchbox1275]

And India doesn't want any money from the current UK. That point was made pretty clear in the video. At least you acknowledged the wrongs. That's quite a feat given the ignorant Brits who were never taught anything about the actual realities of the Empire on its Colonies.

[@prajeeshprasannakumar]

India now follows metric system. But the reminds of old times still here. Can found places mentioned as 2nd mile stone/ 7th mile, etc. Height of person & Size of furnitures are calculated in feet.

[@adityacarlos3929]

Yup they were forced to fight in both the wars India never took part in world war officially

[@tallthinkev]

In no real order, there was no conscription in India, Indian troops fought and died because they wanted to join and not forced to. Clive of India was working for the East India Company, a private company. If the EIC is unknown, think Microsoft + Google + Amazon + Walmart + the FBI and the US armed forces as one company and you get the EIC. As for him saying the British have to give India something, no! Or if he is so against Britain stop using anything British, or invented by someone British

[@mohamedharris4325]

mam, i can understand that you have U.K viewers, that doesn't mean you have take no side because today many British people know that colonization was wrong and acknowledged but it is quite absurd to see some one like you to not take a side that is more based in reality. even british people take side with india on the colonization subject. for you to understand the american natives were killed like that same horrific thing happened in india, which is more clear. i wasted my time by seeing someone who don't even what is good and bad.