Reacting to "Donda" by Kanye West

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Bob the Poppop

Bob the Poppop

Күн бұрын

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@bobthepoppop
@bobthepoppop Ай бұрын
FYI, I had to remove "Tell the Vision" because that copyright claim was blocking the video. Aside from that, if you're a Kanye stan... hold on to your butts >.>
@polarhero57
@polarhero57 Ай бұрын
Bob if you think this album is bad then you’re wrong. This will be your first L i’m so serious.
@musicman7432
@musicman7432 Ай бұрын
@@polarhero57you havent even watched the video yet chill omg
@wyatt.4856
@wyatt.4856 Ай бұрын
Tell the vision is literally just a pop smoke verse Kanye added with a new beat to donda after he died not missing much there
@polarhero57
@polarhero57 Ай бұрын
@@musicman7432and if i told you i skipped to the closing thoughts segment
@refillz5281
@refillz5281 Ай бұрын
​@polarhero57 Everybody is different bud relax.
@astrocopjr8
@astrocopjr8 Ай бұрын
If he thinks Junya's bad wait til he hears husband
@collinlynford31
@collinlynford31 Ай бұрын
hes gonna absolutely hate all of vultures 2 lol. depending on how he feels about ai i feel like he will hate or like sky city and 530. fried he’ll either hate or not mind. i feel like the only songs that he is going to like from the album are river and my soul
@BrainETR
@BrainETR Ай бұрын
@@collinlynford31he’s very lyric-inclined when it comes to music preferences so yeah vultures 1 and 2 are gonna be disasters lol
@mrcarter2229
@mrcarter2229 Ай бұрын
I will be shocked if he listens to Vultures 1 or 2. I doubt the fans will even request it
@Jackson-wy6ls
@Jackson-wy6ls Ай бұрын
I like junya 😭😭😭😭
@zzalt
@zzalt Ай бұрын
@@BrainETR im so here for that reaction tho, top 50 videos on all youtube upcoming
@SwiftGuyver.
@SwiftGuyver. Ай бұрын
Who told Bob this album was purely a dedication to Donda?! There are multiple themes making up this project's concept!
@teenxtcy
@teenxtcy Ай бұрын
maybe the title of the album and the two track titles that include donda
@jynx464
@jynx464 Ай бұрын
@@teenxtcydonda was named after his mother,not dedicated to her at all.Even dababy had to clear that up in an interview as he worked with Kanye on this album
@teenxtcy
@teenxtcy Ай бұрын
@@jynx464 im not saying youre wrong i just dont know how someone going into the album called donda with tracks that include her name in the title wouldnt come to the conclusion the album is mainly about her
@JVsetlike
@JVsetlike Ай бұрын
​@@teenxtcyIt's clear that this was a tribute to his mother, 808s and Heartbreak was the album for his mother's passing. The notion that this was going to be primarily focused on Donda could be immediately cleared when playing the first track, and seeing his album rollouts. It was his tribute to his mother's influence on his life and his ascension to a better path to a christian life.
@shrimp_boogaloo
@shrimp_boogaloo Ай бұрын
Ye: "No you can't be on my mama album"
@yhansantos5198
@yhansantos5198 Ай бұрын
If you were disappointed with this album, I can't imagine what Vultures 1 & 2 would be like lol edit: we don't need to argue it's fine to be delusional
@gooserich3970
@gooserich3970 Ай бұрын
Vultures 2 is growing on me that song 0500am is great now that he finished it
@Aaaaaaaa-ix4rp
@Aaaaaaaa-ix4rp Ай бұрын
Vultures 1 is good
@uVictor
@uVictor Ай бұрын
@@Aaaaaaaa-ix4rp good but weak
@janno7214
@janno7214 Ай бұрын
I feel like he'd actually like Vultures 1 at least
@peculiar3529
@peculiar3529 Ай бұрын
Vultures 1 is a good album. It’s more focused than Donda, so atleast it has that advantage, but bob was even hung up on lyrics with this album so yeah Vultures reaction is cooked
@lilmiiverse2
@lilmiiverse2 Ай бұрын
“he might have died after listening to this” just might be the most scathing things i’ve heard bob say about a song 💀
@peculiar3529
@peculiar3529 Ай бұрын
24 is obviously a tribute to Kobe, but it’s also pretty clearly meant to be a song about lost ones in general. It could apply to anyone. Kanye saying “never the right time to go” could very easily apply to Donda and Koby. Honestly I think you got pretty hung up on your conception of how this album should be and that minimized your scope of this album. He’s not directly invoking Donda often, but he relates other’s situation to Donda ,her teaching, and passing. This album has issues and is unfocused at points but I think you overblew it a bit.
@satyam.
@satyam. Ай бұрын
just felt like he got less and less open-minded which was unfortunate to see as a fan of the album
@jd3thegreat
@jd3thegreat Ай бұрын
Kobe*
@potofgoldd
@potofgoldd Ай бұрын
@@satyam. ironic when he spent the intro talking about keeping an open mind
@und4ad213
@und4ad213 Ай бұрын
i feel like the general narrative this is meant to be an album 'about' his mother his mother is completely wrong, or that it's an 'album' in the way which Bob describes it - the whole thing about how, in his mind, an album is born from a concept you have which you flesh out, not just create it based on fan's reception (which i think that annotation massively overplayed, but whatever). Donda is moreso a collection of songs in dedication to his mother. a few times he goes into themes of her passing etc, but it's not really the primary focus of the album, imo.
@user-mq6kd6mf1v
@user-mq6kd6mf1v Ай бұрын
Yeah you psyched yourself out with thinking it would be some fully Donda themed project imo. After TLOP, I see a lot of Kanye’s albums as sort of compilations of whatever specific era he’s in. Opposed to a tight knit cohesive body of work.
@vachavez226
@vachavez226 Ай бұрын
I agree except for ye
@viz683
@viz683 Ай бұрын
Kids see ghosts??? That wasn't a compilation and was actually well crafted
@user-mq6kd6mf1v
@user-mq6kd6mf1v Ай бұрын
@viz683 It was well crafted and at least the production was consistent throughout. That’d be the closest, but it’s only 7 songs (6 if you count feel the love as mainly a cudi pusha joint), only has 3 songs that thematically really go together subject matter wise imo (Free, Reborn, Cudi Montage). And Cudi x Kanye is somewhat a cheat code as well so making an amazing 7 song project isn’t surprising to me .
@joshzarr
@joshzarr 18 күн бұрын
Absolutely perfect way to articulate Kanye’s albums TLOP and on!
@algerianmapper6344
@algerianmapper6344 Ай бұрын
This album is supposed to have this minimal ominous sound that keeps ascending with each track till it reaches come to life / no child left behind, it was more apparent during the listening parties and with the themes that Kanye was looking to pull off a spectacle in honour of his mother however the tracklist was indeed bloated
@zzalt
@zzalt Ай бұрын
wtf? what about Jail and Moon? they dont fit into this metaphore at all
@westsidegunnfan123
@westsidegunnfan123 Ай бұрын
@@zzalt jail is very minimalist production and is basically stripping himself of his ego
@koldganglife
@koldganglife Ай бұрын
The album isn't supposed to have anything it's a chaotic mess and reads more like a playlist like More Life... go back to the LPs
@und4ad213
@und4ad213 Ай бұрын
exactly, and one of my favourite parts is the transition from donda 2020 to the released donda. compare the album covers and specifically the song 24 from each - 2020: colourful, vibrant, etc., 2021: dark, distorted, pitched down. it was an entire aesthetic shift in the ~2 years he made the album, which he then took into the yeezy x gap, and sonically took the distorted thing to a whole other level with donda 2
@WalterDEgger
@WalterDEgger Ай бұрын
in the second half of the album he’s almost entirely talking about the album’s lack of stylistic cohesion and not really paying attention to the tracks themselves! there are some amazing tracks that were glanced over because they didn’t fit his preconceived notions about what this album *should* sound like.
@backw00ds
@backw00ds Ай бұрын
he ain’t wrong with the 2nd part donda starts to get boring around that time
@aligilal3673
@aligilal3673 Ай бұрын
@backw00dscome to life, pure souls, jesus lord gets boring????
@BrainETR
@BrainETR Ай бұрын
fr, his reaction to come to life specifically was one of the most disappointing parts, he barely analyzed or even gave a second thought to it at all
@willoverdoseonmusic
@willoverdoseonmusic Ай бұрын
​@@BrainETR he gave come to life a good amount of praise
@Z33Nwa
@Z33Nwa Ай бұрын
Curious to know which tracks you thought were worth paying attention to in the second half of the album?
@l0v3everyone
@l0v3everyone Ай бұрын
The theme of Donda is loss. The loss of his family, friends, kids and everything else around Ye at the time. A lot of the features also talk about their own personal experiences of loss with Durk on Jonah and Andre on LOTP for example. This is also further proven with the tributes to Kobe, Pop Smoke and DMX The outro of Jesus Lord is talking about the loss of time that he (Larry Hoover Jr) and his kids went through with his father being in prison. Ye on Never Abandon Your Family also talks about the loss/lack of presence from his father during his youth and him not wanting that for his own children. The pitch black album cover further emphasises loss and mourning. And to tie it all up. Donda was Ye’s biggest loss and his biggest dedication by naming the album after her. It’s clear that you really didn’t manage to have the open mind that you ”intended” to have for Ye. Your assumption of the album pre listen really influenced your experience and you went off about the confusion repeatedly instead of trying to put the pieces together that Ye intended. The fact that you say the album doesn’t feel like Ye is ironic since Donda has everything you love about TLOP. It’s the most Ye album.
@Jdjd-tk9dl
@Jdjd-tk9dl Ай бұрын
Nah the album is just mid bro
@AngelRivera-de1lq
@AngelRivera-de1lq Ай бұрын
​@@Jdjd-tk9dl wow, such a nuanced take with clear explanations and good examples to back them up
@Jdjd-tk9dl
@Jdjd-tk9dl Ай бұрын
​@@AngelRivera-de1lq It's bloated, unfocused and unfinished. It was the start of Kanye's current run of unfocused and unfinished projects. The production is stale and uninspired and clearly suffers from having too many cooks in the kitchen, like much of his work after the College trilogy and 808's. But to the worst extent of his solo catalogue. It takes left over demos like 'hurricane' and transforms them into souless generic husks of the original. It has some of the most poorly written lyrics and worst performances of his discography (before he somehow outdid himself on vultures). Many of the songs are heavily carried by the features but even then there is no kid Cudi on gorgeous or Kendrick Lamar on no more parties level features on this. The only bright side of this album is Kanye's much improved singing performances. The only truly exceptional tracks on this project are pure souls and life of the party. The best part of this album was the rollout. The actual music itself falls very short.
@drchanciepoo
@drchanciepoo Ай бұрын
Not to mention the “rip to juice”
@zzalt
@zzalt Ай бұрын
@@Jdjd-tk9dl honestly very agreed, as an experience Donda was the weakest on release, although i would say that the "too many cooks in the kitchen" got pretty much solved on Yeezus and no other album after 808s. people give shit to f*ntano for giving MBDTF a 6/10 but i agree with that rating and his criticisms, although i disagree on many of his other takes (Yeezus and Graduation are 10/10 albums to me). people say the production on Donda is generational, most of it is basic stripped down Trap beats. id also add Come to Life as the exceptional track from Donda though.
@DatDaDatty
@DatDaDatty Ай бұрын
come to life changed me forever
@xtstrb
@xtstrb Ай бұрын
hello daddy
@nigson4623
@nigson4623 Ай бұрын
fr man me too people can disslike this album but it has some soul touching songs
@Domomomomoe
@Domomomomoe Ай бұрын
Bob was honest and I appreciate that. At least he sat down and gave it a chance. And that’s great! Thank you Bob
@willoverdoseonmusic
@willoverdoseonmusic Ай бұрын
exactly
@Kryptonized-m3l
@Kryptonized-m3l Ай бұрын
would rather he just didnt listen to it instead of this..
@tud21
@tud21 Ай бұрын
It’s def an album that grows on you. He always gives an album multiple listens so maybe his view on it changes a bit in his review video. For me it’s one of my favourite Kanye albums
@keandogg
@keandogg Ай бұрын
2:32:35 I feel like it isn't fair to give a song like Orlando by XXXTENTACION all the credit in the world when you reacted to it, and then call No Child Left Behind "barely a song" when both of those songs are hitting the same mark of minimalism in production.
@janno7214
@janno7214 Ай бұрын
Yeah that was a an extremely unfair comment considering his other reactions. His bias showed hard there.
@chriskelly4773
@chriskelly4773 Ай бұрын
Very good point
@joki7352
@joki7352 Ай бұрын
one of them made the netanyahu interview and the other didn't and bob cant get over that
@alexfernandezvargas8044
@alexfernandezvargas8044 Ай бұрын
He was obviously tired from his own bias and not centered enough to enjoy it imo
@drchanciepoo
@drchanciepoo Ай бұрын
“Barely a song” just doesn’t sit right
@toddbrown6333
@toddbrown6333 Ай бұрын
Knowing Bob’s background in having a love for ambient music, I am very shocked at how he called tracks on here “barely songs”. I’m not even a massive fan of Kanye anymore but the production is amazing
@zzalt
@zzalt Ай бұрын
whats the part you love the most about the production? geniune question
@JMACBKK
@JMACBKK Ай бұрын
@@zzalt i like the sort of ascending and super pretty parts of production of songs such as moon and come to life
@LuckiBelly
@LuckiBelly Ай бұрын
@@zzaltspacey, atmospheric and ethereal vibes of the production
@cordlopez3884
@cordlopez3884 Ай бұрын
He trapped himself
@westonhull7595
@westonhull7595 Ай бұрын
@@zzaltwhether you ended up liking the way this album sounds or not is obviously a personal/subjective thing, but there’s no doubt he took some risks here & tried some things you simply haven’t heard much from other artists. The fusion of the organs, gospel choir, lack of traditional hip hop drums, etc often made for a dark, hazy, almost menacing backdrop for what is largely church/gospel messaging. This album is far from flawless & he no doubt missed the mark with some of these tracks, but it still has some incredible highs & IMO was worth more praise than Bob was willing to give throughout.
@DIEGOfrombrazil
@DIEGOfrombrazil Ай бұрын
Man, its def an album that grows on you as you go. Sometimes you overthink structure of albums, this one has an order that sometimes seems odd, but I think the focus on this album is the mix that he had in his life and the sounds. Individually.
@BigDawgDawg-lw7bp
@BigDawgDawg-lw7bp Ай бұрын
It’s how I felt when life of Pablo released. Didn’t like it then. But now it’s one of my fav.
@TeeepKick
@TeeepKick Ай бұрын
Hell naw this was peak on first listen lmao, he just don’t like it
@jaceliu5758
@jaceliu5758 Ай бұрын
@@TeeepKickyou get it
@mike04574
@mike04574 Ай бұрын
@@BigDawgDawg-lw7bptlop is way better
@DIEGOfrombrazil
@DIEGOfrombrazil Ай бұрын
@@TeeepKick this was peak for the rollout at the time. as I fully experienced Vultures 1, so I'll always have that one in a different optic. jesus is king and donda has a longer life, I trully believe that.
@potofgoldd
@potofgoldd Ай бұрын
i feel like this reaction was NOT with an open mind 😭😭
@chune4383
@chune4383 Ай бұрын
It came across as very preachy to me
@janno7214
@janno7214 Ай бұрын
Agree 100% he imposed a certain view of it before even listening which just completely kills any merit this reaction could've had
@aidan9100
@aidan9100 Ай бұрын
Felt like there was an expectation going in and when it wasn’t met he was completely taken out of the experience. Interested in the additional thoughts though
@attiladamirchi939
@attiladamirchi939 Ай бұрын
I just think he got tired of it, which is fair because it's so damn long
@usermnm1104
@usermnm1104 Ай бұрын
and considering he says TLOP is his favorite Ye album, he strangely had a big problem with Donda not being "focused" in comparison. Idk who would describe TLOP as focused lmfao
@CSwerv
@CSwerv Ай бұрын
Bob I don’t know if your going to see this but what makes this album so great to me is the atmosphere and the production it sounds like you’re in empty cathedral a dark void just lost with Kanye while he struggles with trying to grasp himself before he looses himself again
@jasonvelarde
@jasonvelarde Ай бұрын
you hit the nail on the head. and when you see the stadium live streams where he plays it you really get that vibe especially. its not a cohesive album. its a diary of thoughts and kanye trying to find himself as he struggles with everything. the album cover is black. its not cohesive really at all.
@ginogarcia1655
@ginogarcia1655 Ай бұрын
I seriously consider this as the last true Kanye album. It’s like sad final goodbye before his mind went off the rocker
@xulqarnaen
@xulqarnaen Ай бұрын
Im saving this comment, this describes my feelings perfectly
@jamjamjamtheman
@jamjamjamtheman Ай бұрын
@@ginogarcia1655this was literally the last kanye album, the story isn’t over. Vultures is a collab side project
@datbeatplug6026
@datbeatplug6026 Ай бұрын
Facts
@bananagoomba9103
@bananagoomba9103 Ай бұрын
52:12 LMAO the slight pause after the music ends and simply saying "I don't like Baby Keem" has me crying. I totally get why people don't like him but I actually enjoy his stuff. I do agree that the Praise God verse inda stinks though.
@puppppppppppuuuuu6205
@puppppppppppuuuuu6205 Ай бұрын
He carried the song
@slaggo1
@slaggo1 Ай бұрын
his original verse got butchered and repurposed for Savior Interlude on Mr Morale. The original one was him rapping his ass off and it got ruined lol
@hamzaHrv
@hamzaHrv Ай бұрын
Barr erra Barr erra boom , barr erra boom barr erra bin
@justmyopinion1098
@justmyopinion1098 Ай бұрын
Nah Praise God is Baby Keem at his best
@Frostidd
@Frostidd 29 күн бұрын
hes verse isnt even that bad, its just too long, and hes just yapping for like 30 seconds before his verse actually starts, if that was removed then the song wouldve been so much better
@Kordellll
@Kordellll Ай бұрын
He really liked a song and instead of talking about it he talked about the songs he doesn’t like
@Zeus-ve4zg
@Zeus-ve4zg Ай бұрын
Love Bob but he does that with albums a lot. The second he starts to dislike a project he just searches out the bad in every song
@asanch_xvi
@asanch_xvi Ай бұрын
“Finally sitting down with Donda” wow I didn’t expect Bob to be able to pull off this kind of witchcraft. Thank you Bob, very cool
@Spinningtherecord
@Spinningtherecord Ай бұрын
After you sit with this album for a week you’ll understand
@peterumathum4903
@peterumathum4903 Ай бұрын
How if he doesnt like the songs lol
@mohamediq1969
@mohamediq1969 Ай бұрын
@@peterumathum4903 he said that he doesn`t get the hype with the first songs of mbdtf also but he liked them after a few listens
@Hrishka18
@Hrishka18 Ай бұрын
@@peterumathum4903 i liked maybe 3 songs when the album came out and now its my favorite kanye album
@ringer1324
@ringer1324 Ай бұрын
OH DAMN. Man I’ve been waiting years for this. Thank you Bob!
@unoptimalvods5792
@unoptimalvods5792 Ай бұрын
waiting years for a reviewer just to not like it much... you must feel how i felt when fantano reviewed the ghost pop tape
@zephymczef
@zephymczef Ай бұрын
say that again...
@DarnellHannley-xs3cz
@DarnellHannley-xs3cz Ай бұрын
⁠@@unoptimalvods5792If i was a big Donda fan this review would sting after waiting 3 years for this lol
@jaceliu5758
@jaceliu5758 Ай бұрын
@@unoptimalvods5792you get me man the way he criticized tgpt had me shook😂
@Antwannnn
@Antwannnn Ай бұрын
Same here. I'm sad now lol
@6Senor
@6Senor Ай бұрын
The reason Fivio Foreign's verse on "Off the Grid" was so long is that, initially, he sent Kanye an 8 bar verse. However, Kanye kept asking for more, and Fivio kept adding to it. That’s why it sounds like he’s about to end the verse at certain moments. Fivio told this on an interview.
@reymax9053
@reymax9053 Ай бұрын
Didn’t know that, pretty cool, gives the verse an interest momentum
@NamilPeaksProductions
@NamilPeaksProductions Ай бұрын
Says he goes into it with open mind Proceeds to call everything weird and odd💀
@butterclout
@butterclout Ай бұрын
bob experiencing drill for the first time is so funny
@sthompson12132
@sthompson12132 Ай бұрын
best part of this review tbh...i just want bob to get back to a bit more sonic diversity
@WaddupYT
@WaddupYT Ай бұрын
Look I’m not a Kanye stan nor am I a huge fan of this album but I think you weren’t fully open minded here. I think you had an expectation and as soon as it wasn’t met you started focusing on certain things and kinda disregarded some great songs because of it. Again not a huge fan of this album but I do think you went a little overboard.
@drchanciepoo
@drchanciepoo Ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@koldganglife
@koldganglife Ай бұрын
@@WaddupYT What great songs did he disregard? Tell the Vision?
@WaddupYT
@WaddupYT Ай бұрын
@@koldganglife Moon, Pure souls, and come to life
@notevensure-qg6ef
@notevensure-qg6ef Ай бұрын
@@koldganglife when you mentioned Tell the Vision, you already showed your bias and not being open-minded as the author of this video. Don't waste your time, let it go brother.
@marcuslee698
@marcuslee698 15 күн бұрын
This album is great but bloated - but the best tracks on here are some of his best ever
@Untitled-ee6ks
@Untitled-ee6ks Ай бұрын
I was looking forward to this reaction for a while believe it or not. I’m beyond disappointed. You wouldn’t let go of what you “expected” I’ve never seen a more closed minded review in my life.
@justmustard3338
@justmustard3338 Ай бұрын
bob analyzing lyrics on off the grid 😂😂 most sound heavy track but what could paintings in her living room mean 🤔
@Kreyt-nz6sq
@Kreyt-nz6sq Ай бұрын
spot on 🤣🤣
@robertwhitehead5395
@robertwhitehead5395 Ай бұрын
" I dont like baby keem. I dont know why. Well, this verse is a good reason i dont like baby keem"
@JoshBurcham104
@JoshBurcham104 Ай бұрын
Real
@BankaiFever
@BankaiFever Ай бұрын
He’s deff not for everyone
@FizzyCape
@FizzyCape Ай бұрын
I get it. He’s weird. You’re either gonna love him or hate him.
@YoungMulaBaby808
@YoungMulaBaby808 Ай бұрын
I hated that verse too off first listen thought he fumbled the whole song, now I think it’s the best part
@peterumathum4903
@peterumathum4903 Ай бұрын
I like keem but that was pretty funny
@jajajsjjslolapi679
@jajajsjjslolapi679 Ай бұрын
using the word "disappointing" to describe it at the end hits different knowing this album's iconic, kinda insane build-up and rollout. don't get me wrong, i was pretty disappointed, too tbh. respectfully not as much as bob though.
@Wowisawow
@Wowisawow Ай бұрын
yeah, i think donda was a moment in time where you had to just follow it’s rollout and it’s immediate release to really connect to it. i understand why it would be weird to go into the album years later not understanding how iconic it was
@z1na401
@z1na401 Ай бұрын
@@Wowisawowagree. You literally had to be there
@TeeepKick
@TeeepKick Ай бұрын
Naw this album is amazing regardless
@yeahr1ghty
@yeahr1ghty Ай бұрын
Kanye fans are in a bubble. This album had very mixed reception on release. Yes, it was very hyped, yes it was relevant when it dropped, but no not everyone loved it. Deal with it. Lots of people were disappointed, that's not even close to a hot take.
@privatetrash2810
@privatetrash2810 Ай бұрын
I'm ngl the build up and roll out were also dissapointing. The constant delaying and changing of the album last minute was annoying asf
@dingowaffle5700
@dingowaffle5700 Ай бұрын
The way he just walked over lil baby's part like it didn't exist hurt... he had such a great delivery and took the moment to give a meaningful verse
@rediansjchillin
@rediansjchillin Ай бұрын
probably because he’s not too versed into lil baby. if he was, then he’d point out how different the verse is in comparison to lil baby’s solo work
@oldnoob1
@oldnoob1 Ай бұрын
Probably because it's not pleasant to listen to. It doesn't fit well with TW chorus and the voice and flow is not enjoyable at all. It's the same issue with playboy Carti on most songs, for instance Off the grid
@creedencebakken2686
@creedencebakken2686 Ай бұрын
Lil baby’s verse ruins the song
@gooserich3970
@gooserich3970 25 күн бұрын
Baby had best verse on Donda
@mattiarossi7807
@mattiarossi7807 Ай бұрын
this is my Christmas present. it's 2 am here in Italy but I can't wait for this banger
@deensyed786
@deensyed786 Ай бұрын
2am in Croatia but we move
@DominoCinematic
@DominoCinematic Ай бұрын
same here in norway
@JVsetlike
@JVsetlike Ай бұрын
Is it snowing over there?
@sassient2784
@sassient2784 Ай бұрын
Anch'io dal piemonte
@mickolex468
@mickolex468 Ай бұрын
4 am in germany
@DannyPhantomRL
@DannyPhantomRL Ай бұрын
I think you’ll like this album more and more over time. When this first dropped I wasn’t into a lot of the songs. About 3 years later I love every song except like 2 lol. If not it’s ok everyone doesn’t have to like what I like.
@xyrots
@xyrots Ай бұрын
I'm always going to remember my experience with this album. Came out during a really weird time in my life and a weird time in general (middle of COVID). It may not be objectively better than most of Kanye's other work, but it's definitely in my top 5 Kanye albums. I could go back and listen to almost any of these songs.
@olelimc
@olelimc Ай бұрын
Same from me, this album grew so much on me. Like most Kanye albums they age really well.
@DannyPhantomRL
@DannyPhantomRL Ай бұрын
@ yh I think I was just wanting more of kids see ghosts/ye era type Kanye and got something different. Now I appreciate the fact that every era of Kanye has its own sound so whatever the mood is you can choose a diff album to listen to.
@mrduck2170
@mrduck2170 Ай бұрын
Man this reaction was hard to watch as someone who remembers donda as one of Kanye’s greatest works. I get basically all of the points you made but I can’t agree with 95% of it. Come to life, Jesus Lord, Life of the party, Moon, 24, Pure Souls etc are all beautiful and are some of the greatest highlights on any Kanye album ever. And even the bangers like Off the grid and Heaven and hell are insane and shows where Kanye was in the process of making the album. Donda is an album about loss, it doesn’t matter what it is. He touches subjects about his mother, his wife and more. And the way it feels empty only makes it better with the feeling of Kanye being so lost.
@Z33Nwa
@Z33Nwa Ай бұрын
Donda is categorically NOT one of Kanye’s greatest works. Not even top 5
@mrduck2170
@mrduck2170 Ай бұрын
@@Z33Nwa for me the album has helped me so much in my way to find myself. So for me this album is possibly the most important album Kanye has made for me except for maybe TLOP
@taiho07
@taiho07 Ай бұрын
Nah it’s top 3 in my books
@mariecoheng
@mariecoheng 28 күн бұрын
This album literally changed my life and made me grow closer to God. For me it is a masterpiece
@oldyearstillme
@oldyearstillme Ай бұрын
The album is about the collapse of everything he had been building up since 808s, that's what the haunting, hollowed tone is. That's the eeriness you feel throughout the record. Like you said he was SO close to getting away from everything, living in the countryside. It all had an inconclusive, depressing ending. I love this album and I think with your personal relationship with Kanye's music, you should listen to it again-- or skim it again, with that lens. It's a 2 hour long Pinocchio's Story.
@SteepWriter
@SteepWriter Ай бұрын
I think it feels hollow because it is just that. To project that it is a nothing-burger intentionally is straight copium. Sometimes art just sucks
@chinesechupacabra9407
@chinesechupacabra9407 Ай бұрын
@@SteepWriterwell that’s your opinion but the production def is meant to serve that hollow feeling. The whole album feels like a dark empty cathedral to me and creates a really cool overall feeling.
@SteepWriter
@SteepWriter Ай бұрын
@@chinesechupacabra9407 Or it is unfinished like so many of his previous LPs, having to go back and release future versions that are listenable. I honestly just think he is too mentally ill and/or lazy to finish a project nowadays.
@rsacozy
@rsacozy Ай бұрын
@@SteepWriter you think Donda is unfinished?
@SteepWriter
@SteepWriter Ай бұрын
@@rsacozy Probably not in the eyes on Kanye, but at least in his past he had the self awareness to revise clearly undercooked ideas. I genuinely think he just got lazier as a songwriter overall.
@arm911-d9x
@arm911-d9x Ай бұрын
Honestly, Andre on Life of the Party has got probably my favourite rap verse ever. It's just so fucking beautiful.
@oatmeal6328
@oatmeal6328 Ай бұрын
Andres verse is okay kinda overrated imo
@benbowland
@benbowland 2 күн бұрын
22:00 I feel the exact same way about Low Lights and God Breathed! I also wanted God Breathed to have a "beat drop" when I first heard it, but after a couple minutes I was actually praying it wouldn't! It's a meditative, hypnotic track, and I love that it remains that way. That's Kanye at his best. My wish for a long time has been for Kanye to fully abandon the conventions of rap and do an album of avant-garde music and soundscapes. That's where I feel that Ye could fully express himself. A remark about Come To Life: I always loved when he said "Brought a gift to Northie, all she want was Nikes, this is not about me, God is still alive". He clearly gave his daughter some new Yeezys he was working on but she just wanted Nikes instead (his biggest competitor), and this prompted some reflection and humility (well, as much as he's capable of). Just a nice, sentimental line. I think this could have been a great album if cut down to 10 songs. But it just took Pablo's bloat and dropped the quality by miles. Pablo was bloated and aimless but every idea on that album had POLISH. Donda has a handful of gems in a whole bucket of dirt.
@gabewhatsupguy6604
@gabewhatsupguy6604 Ай бұрын
Calling TLOP your favorite album but calling Donda too messy is kinda wild 🤣
@Russum1
@Russum1 Ай бұрын
Donda is 100% too messy
@nonlmao
@nonlmao Ай бұрын
TLOP sounds waaaaaay better though, there is nothing wild about loving TLOP but not Donda. And holy fk this album is bloated
@gabewhatsupguy6604
@gabewhatsupguy6604 Ай бұрын
@@nonlmao I mean yeah TLOP is better but if you knew anything about the rollouts for TLOP and Donda it's easy to see how similar they were. I think the chaos and variety is both of those albums' strengths. Also calling the production mediocre should be a sin.
@pemp9606
@pemp9606 Ай бұрын
@@nonlmao cut out the pt 2’s and tell the vision and it’s not bloated anymore
@pemp9606
@pemp9606 Ай бұрын
@@Russum1 just like the white album is too messy. Just like Mr. Morale is too messy. Just cause it’s not as focused doesn’t mean it bad. He should relisten. It’s a spiritual masterpiece with some bloat in it.
@vitalait_mamzouj
@vitalait_mamzouj Ай бұрын
The thing about the "he's trying to convince himself of this" in pure souls is so funny because have you considered that instead of convincing himself of that, that he is trying to become that? He is trying to find God in his life by reassuring himself that he is on the right path? Finding God is not a destination you get to, it's a leap of faith that requires a lot of battle against the self and reminding of the self to stay on the right path. He repeats it so much because he is tested (and fails) in his life a lot and the fact he repeat it so much is actually admirable is that after all of his tribulations he is still clinging to God to help him get on the right path. Matter of fact, him repeating this message and coming to it again and again is a way bigger sign to me of someone who is spiritually alive and transparent with his flawed journey (Wich is very real) instead of someone who states that he found God like it's a final destination and something he achieved. You don't have to like Kanye, but he is saying the truth when he is says that he says what people think in their head, and I'm afraid some people are afraid to accept actual true raw unfiltered emotions because it reminds them of their own mess.
@Adam_fullarton
@Adam_fullarton Ай бұрын
If your Kanye journey wasn’t so well-documented, I’d honestly think this was your first time ever listening to one of his albums. It’s really strange. Maybe you’re not as open-minded as you think, but I’m not sure. Your review feels pretty weak overall-no disrespect intended, of course. Also, the fact that you think this is set during the Nazi 'era' unintentionally gives off a sense of unfairness. How is the album's concept not defined? I’m genuinely baffled by that.
@potofgoldd
@potofgoldd Ай бұрын
yeah the reaction to moon and come to life were dissapointing asf but we move
@janno7214
@janno7214 Ай бұрын
It really feels like a complete reset. idk why he'd view this album in a different light than any other Ye album. It feels like he's not trying to understand the themes and feeling being expressed but rather trying to find what he thinks should be there and arguing with what is rather than trying to understand and analyze
@b33lze6u6
@b33lze6u6 Ай бұрын
He caught the brainrot
@AsherneZ
@AsherneZ Ай бұрын
He afraid of them money sniffers 🤥
@MrTotBalls
@MrTotBalls Ай бұрын
@@AsherneZstop giving Ye fans a bad name and stop spreading your prejudice
@puppppppppppuuuuu6205
@puppppppppppuuuuu6205 Ай бұрын
It really feels like you didn’t understand what the point and message of this album especially with how you constantly mention how it’s an album about his mom or dedicated to her, It’s neither the album is named after her and the point of this 10th studio album was tackling his entire life and having a massive album to let it all out. I don’t blame you for this reaction though because I felt very similarly on my first listen in 2021, but 3 years later I hold this in high regard and consider it a 9/10 record. There’s bumps, but overall it’s amazing. All I can say is try viewing it as a whole.
@westonhull7595
@westonhull7595 Ай бұрын
This reaction is just another example of how highly anticipated things rarely live up to expectations lol. I’ve watched quite a bit of this channel & have looked forward to seeing Bob’s reaction to “Come to Life” for a couple years now. Maybe it just genuinely doesn’t do for him what it does/has done for so many others upon first listen. More likely, I think, is the belief that he was already checked out by the time he even reached that track. Not sure if I expected him to cry or something (wouldn’t shock me based on his prior reactions to beautiful, emotional songs), but never in a million years would I have guessed that he’d essentially just brush it off as another decent but unexceptional track.
@chune4383
@chune4383 Ай бұрын
I can see it kind of hurts Bob to admit he likes some of the songs here
@joki7352
@joki7352 Ай бұрын
| what happened to this guy?
@03frzeup
@03frzeup Ай бұрын
@@joki7352this reaction got your panties in a twist huh? multiple comments complaining 😂
@km24329
@km24329 Ай бұрын
@@03frzeup typical kanye stans😂😂😂😂
@cuesterds
@cuesterds Ай бұрын
​​@@km24329 is it not just upsetting to see a reliable yter become biased?
@lilterrestrial
@lilterrestrial Ай бұрын
@@cuesterdsEveryone has biases. That’s what forms opinions. You’re viewing this video to see his opinion. What is the problem here
@binmanbinman
@binmanbinman Ай бұрын
one of his best albums i don’t care
@patek9789
@patek9789 Ай бұрын
His best album in my opinion but I know almost everybody would disagree on that
@pdxjets3104
@pdxjets3104 Ай бұрын
@@patek9789yeah you the only person in the world to ever think that lol
@patek9789
@patek9789 Ай бұрын
@@pdxjets3104 yeah i’m sure I am I just don’t like his older albums they don’t sound modern enough for me
@mozzarellafella66
@mozzarellafella66 Ай бұрын
Its a top 3 Kanye album to me aswell , I get his point that it’s a little unfocused but the theme is loss in general through different stories
@mozzarellafella66
@mozzarellafella66 Ай бұрын
@@pdxjets3104nah I think it can easily be my favorite , I just don’t like picking a single one as my favorite since all his projects are very different and unique
@vitalait_mamzouj
@vitalait_mamzouj Ай бұрын
He didn't really like it lmaaaao this is tragic
@satyarthsingh2276
@satyarthsingh2276 Ай бұрын
It's named after his mother, not dedicated! I would recommend further listens, checking out Prof. Skye's vids on Donda, watching listening parties. That was a performance art in itself. This was about isolation, loss, liberation, remembrance of the loved ones and to end it all. Pain! Again, NAMED after his mother. Not DEDICATED!
@Kordellll
@Kordellll Ай бұрын
Idk why he has a problem with Kanye preaching something or trying to get a message across if he’s open minded and unbiased
@drchanciepoo
@drchanciepoo Ай бұрын
Very condescending with the “you might think you believe in him (Jesus) ” type beat
@eltonkinki4818
@eltonkinki4818 Ай бұрын
Bob use to go church and do all that stuff but stop i think that why i think it's not clicking for him
@justmustard3338
@justmustard3338 Ай бұрын
bob is in his “if it’s not great, it sucks” era 😂 problem for every music listener
@puppppppppppuuuuu6205
@puppppppppppuuuuu6205 Ай бұрын
Yeah I had that issue for a long time, it’s like being a teenager and hating pop music just because it has “no substance” and it’s popular
@JePaKy66
@JePaKy66 Ай бұрын
He Literally never did that. Yall ye fans are weird
@justmustard3338
@justmustard3338 Ай бұрын
@@JePaKy66i have no feelings for kanye but bobs tone in this video is undeniable. he said he holds kanye at a high regard, but hes struggling to find a song he likes. idk i feel like it’s the result of having expectations
@joki7352
@joki7352 Ай бұрын
@@justmustard3338 clearly not being able to get over kanye's antics; no separation from the artist and the art
@TommyTom21
@TommyTom21 Ай бұрын
@@joki7352He enjoyed JIK so that’s pure cope.
@IRecognizeDorks
@IRecognizeDorks Ай бұрын
Nothing will make me forget listening to this in complete darkness in my room when it first came out. I just started a discography dive on Kanye and the album YE helped me thru a lot of mental problems so I couldn't believe I got to experience this in real time as it dropped. The first few seconds of Jail sounded so theatrical and even though I wasn't a huge fan yet I remember thinking "Oh my God, it's here" despite not having any previous anticipation for it lol. Phenomenal album man.
@puppppppppppuuuuu6205
@puppppppppppuuuuu6205 Ай бұрын
You talk about being open minded but it felt like you latched onto hating this album wherever you could especially with that annotation about kanye listening to feedback on the album. The annotation clearly stated it was a fan THEORY not confirmed. And the extent to which he listened to fan feedback did not change the message of the album or even really verses it was more the mixing of songs and slight aspects of the production. You can critique that but this album would’ve still come out very similar regardless of fan feedback.
@JesusTheRealOne
@JesusTheRealOne Ай бұрын
I personally really enjoyed so many songs on this album, but your reaction to it was completely understandable and valid. It is all over the place, and yes, I also agree Kanye is lying to himself about being free and having God in his life. This album represents a breakup and trying to mask your emotions with friends and "God," but deep down, you're a mess and don't know how to handle it all. So he just locked himself in a stadium and made this.
@brosephin
@brosephin Ай бұрын
If you didn't like this, don't even bother with vultures
@Antwannnn
@Antwannnn Ай бұрын
But you never know
@zlimerrr
@zlimerrr Ай бұрын
even if he DID like this dont even bother with vultures 😭😭
@MoldyMonsters
@MoldyMonsters Ай бұрын
I like first part of vultures
@Harveygregorxotwod
@Harveygregorxotwod Ай бұрын
The first track Donda Chant i read somewhere that it is an emulation of Dondas final heart beats on the monitor somewhere. I feel like people didn’t understand that but that’s what it represents
@IllegalPizza777
@IllegalPizza777 Ай бұрын
Oh I thought fantano was weird for putting it in his favorite tracks
@yeahr1ghty
@yeahr1ghty Ай бұрын
"Read somehwere", yeah you were on twitter bro. Everyone on twitter spread this theory. Lol tryna act like its some hidden knowledge when posts explaining this got hundreds of thousands of likes....
@AnimalAlmighty
@AnimalAlmighty Ай бұрын
@@yeahr1ghty😭😂dang bro
@Harveygregorxotwod
@Harveygregorxotwod Ай бұрын
@@yeahr1ghty I couldn’t find the post with 100’s of thousands of likes that’s my point
@animalpenn-q5c
@animalpenn-q5c Ай бұрын
It’s only a theory, it’s not confirmed by anyone.
@NotRealPhil
@NotRealPhil Ай бұрын
Talking about how Kanye never really addressed his mother’s passing when 808s & Heartbreak exists is comical at best and ignorant at worst.
@willoverdoseonmusic
@willoverdoseonmusic Ай бұрын
he's still right in the way that ye with his mother's passing definitely contributes heavily to his manic behavior today
@NotRealPhil
@NotRealPhil Ай бұрын
@ Nobody is disputing that
@Antwannnn
@Antwannnn Ай бұрын
And my top 5 fav Kanye song, Only One.
@JerimiahOrtega-d9b
@JerimiahOrtega-d9b Ай бұрын
He didn’t talk about his mom in 808s either what are you saying??? Like this is the reason people hate Kanye fans because they are so rude and pretentious about everything, maybe he just didn’t click with album at first it’s not that deep
@tekin7351
@tekin7351 Ай бұрын
​@JerimiahOrtega-d9b Why are you lying and saying stuff without knowledge on the matter. Firstly, Pinocchio Story exists. That completely negates your stance. Also one of his concerts (during the 808s&Heartbreak time) he had a pretty interesting stage design. There were two masked woman standing on the opposite side of the stage. One represented his mother and the other represented his ex The majority of the show Ye looked at his ex's representation but there were key moments in which he looked at his "mom". Also I am pretty sure the reason why he repeats his verses in Coldest Winter twice is because this Song is dedicated to his ex end his mom (and there might be even more times in which he talks about his mom) So it would be wrong to assume that her death didn't also inspire 808s.
@Protronica
@Protronica Ай бұрын
I’d argue TLOP is messier than Donda so im very confused on what you don’t like about this album other than the mediocre songs (which tlop has).
@Protronica
@Protronica Ай бұрын
@@revowowI’m going to compare Donda to TLOP because they are more similar than people like to admit. Both albums blur the lines between gospel, rap, and experimental sounds. They use features, abrupt tonal shifts, and larger than life production to mirror Kanye’s thought process. On Donda, Kanye isn’t solely mourning his mother. Instead, he’s using her legacy as a lens to explore his own aspirations, fears, and shortcomings. Both albums feel more rough around the edges rather than polished, neatly packaged works of art.
@willoverdoseonmusic
@willoverdoseonmusic Ай бұрын
tlop was meant to be disjointed while donda comes off amateurish
@MoldyMonsters
@MoldyMonsters Ай бұрын
Can u name the mediocre songs of TLOP
@seanjjpaul
@seanjjpaul Ай бұрын
Damn this reaction was pretty disappointing. Should have sat with something else this week…I dunno why you were so convinced it was about his mom. Multiple themes going through this album.
@joki7352
@joki7352 Ай бұрын
I heard Graduation was about Graduating from school
@MrTotBalls
@MrTotBalls Ай бұрын
Yeah he needed to be told beforehand that it was dedicated to his mom, not about her.
@aivito2521
@aivito2521 Ай бұрын
29:44 Bobby’s introduction to ny drill is killin me
@steveurkel9378
@steveurkel9378 Ай бұрын
maybe wait even abit longer before more ye, I agree with your points but you came off abit predisposed in this one to me bob. I dont blame you i just think its more fun to watch you when you seem excited to be listening to the artist
@slaggo1
@slaggo1 Ай бұрын
he is not going to like Vultures 1 or 2 ever lol.
@Adam_fullarton
@Adam_fullarton Ай бұрын
He should stop completely honestly
@EoinEoin45
@EoinEoin45 Ай бұрын
I think you very much “had to be there” for this album to fully respect it or enjoy it, great reaction as always tho bob!
@tetolini
@tetolini Ай бұрын
yeah even going back to the album now theres bloat for sure
@moneygrab610
@moneygrab610 Ай бұрын
I definitely remember it being better on release, even if it was only a few years ago. There are still great moments, but I don’t really go back the album as a whole. TLOP was kind of the same way though. The context around it, the constant pushing back of release dates, the addition and revision of tracks - it made the album feel much more like a cultural topic. TLOP just ended up being received and remembered much more favorably than Donda.
@Frank-nz1wr
@Frank-nz1wr Ай бұрын
⁠@@tetoliniI feel like there’s actually less bloat after I gave it a better chance. The middle was a bit of fluff for me personally, a couple skips, but there r lots of wonderful songs on the album in my opinion
@franlymatias6942
@franlymatias6942 Ай бұрын
You should watch the first two album listening parties on KZbin, I think it will help you understand and enjoy the album more, but they are also some of the most incredible pieces of performance art you’ll ever see. Professor Skye called these two of the greatest and most important moments in performance art history. Very powerful, gripping and emotional pieces.
@Kordellll
@Kordellll Ай бұрын
It’s understandable very emotional in the comments
@biteof78
@biteof78 Ай бұрын
Bro I think I've counted like 5 comments from you already💀💀
@mysticmusic3500
@mysticmusic3500 Ай бұрын
This album may not be the most consistent, but Come To Life will forever be my favourite song of all time. The emotions it showcases through Kanye’s flawed but amazing singing, diverse and intricate instrumental, song depth and dimensions and gospel samples make it a once and a lifetime experience. Words can’t describe what the song feels like for me.
@teenxtcy
@teenxtcy Ай бұрын
come to life and only 1🙏
@Rank17Legend
@Rank17Legend Ай бұрын
@@teenxtcyonly one mentioned 🔥
@mysticmusic3500
@mysticmusic3500 Ай бұрын
@@teenxtcy only one is def one of his most emotional songs. The non official trilogy of Hey Mama, Coldest Winter, Only One is so good
@tadhgoconnor9383
@tadhgoconnor9383 Ай бұрын
I find the way you listen to music frustrating sometimes Bob. You said at the start that Kanye wasn't the best lyricist but then proceeded to comb through the lyrics trying to find a running theme instead of just feeling the production and atmosphere. It could just be the format of your videos with the genius lyrics on the screen, but this way of listening to music works for artists like mf doom but not as much for Travis Scott, Playboi and in this case, Kanye. In saying this I still appreciate you and your videos and will continue to watch
@rainbtw1
@rainbtw1 Ай бұрын
Real
@obey2263
@obey2263 29 күн бұрын
The way he listens to music is flawed. This is the reason I watch other reactors and not him, he has this pretentious aura about him that really turns me off to him and I really don't get why hes this popular as a reactor when his reactions aren't as good as the dynamic between turning the tables or others that go more in-depth/ are more insightful. I think this guy just wants the album to sound like what he thinks it would sound like and sticks with that idea which really hinders his experience and makes him a bad reactor overall. Not that I think Donda is Kanyes best or should be praised but this review was patently terrible. This review was dissapointing and only proved to me this guy is not somebody you should be looking to for insightful music reviews and first listens with the biases he comes with everytime, for him I can tell it's just not music he particuarly likes and thats ok but he doesn't have to act like he likes them which he does on other albums.
@aidenw2426
@aidenw2426 Ай бұрын
Man - feels like a disconnect is there, maybe not being there with the rollout/release? But there’s definitely more to it than you’re pulling out. Fantano even gave the album a 7 enjoying the tracks. Hopefully some relistens or shortening the album into a playlist helps. Appreciate you sticking through and listening while sick!
@Hope-y9y4y
@Hope-y9y4y Ай бұрын
I was initially going to write a very long comment expressing my dissapointment with Bob not clicking with this album considering it is my favorite piece of art every created. I was planning to write out my case for Donda essentially but seeing many people in the comment section expressing similiar feelings as me I just wanted to say something to Bob if he ends up reading this comment. I see some people are expressing their dissapointment with a level of animosity or through mockery but please look past it and listen to the sentiments. A lot of us feel this way. We think you didn't appreciate a great piece of art properly and we care deeply about art. I think this album is something masterful and I am compelled to make at least a bit of the case for it just in case some of my talking points are not something others have gotten around to. Somebody already mentioned Donda being an album about loss, with songs like Jonah, 24, Jesus Lord. Honestly I was so excited to see some great analysis from you with making these connections and even maybe finding reflections of that theme in places where I hadn't. This is the level of inquire with which you normally approach music. That's why I feel the same as other here in saying you didn't seem particularly open minded. I think you started out as such but then eventually closed off when challenged. I believe the sequencing of this album is great. All the songs paint a rich landscape with themes such as incarceration, religion, ascension (in God Breathed with the song of the angels, in Jesus Lord where Kanye poses the question "If I die tonight can I see her [Donda] in the afterlife?", even in the 2nd listening event at Mercedes Benz stadium where at the end kanye gets raised to the top of the stadium) And touching on that the listening parties were great pieces of performance art that make an undeniable case for the intentionality of this album. They're packed with references and symbolism. (I'm about to bring up a point from Bliss Foster's great videos on the listening events, I recommend those as well as Professor Skye's analysis for anyone curious) In every event Ye wore a mask. For a long time kanye has expressed his admiration for the fashion designer Martin Margiella who prominently used masks in his career as a symbol of anonimity. It's key to mention that Ye has work Margiella designed masks in the past but never really with the same message that the designer intended with the accessory. This time around he wore very simple cloth masks and with the vulnarability and the admissions he brought to this album it feels like the anonimity they gave him was the way he could get himself to express such painful sentiments. During the creation of the album all participating members were expected to take part in communal bible readings, they wore Donda merchandise and were all there working in person. None of the collaboration was phoned in. Everybody working on this single piece of art HAD to dedicate themselves to it. As I mentioned Ye rented out the Mercedez Benz Stadium for the shows but not only that, he rented it during his work on the album. He livestreamed his bedroom during the creation process. It was incredibly stripped back, he only had bedding, weights and a water bottle. He was fully dedicated to the project. And I know you didn't know any of this context before your listen but I hope knowing this now, the case I'm making now along with many of the other viewers you reexamine your opinion on this album and listen to it further. I know this comment is quite disjoined, I'm literally just back from an exhausting shift at work but I really felt like I had to say something so I hope whatever I spewed out is of some value, I haven't even read it back.
@jebbush3130
@jebbush3130 Ай бұрын
not reading allat
@Hope-y9y4y
@Hope-y9y4y Ай бұрын
​@@jebbush3130 "If I had more time I would've written a shorter letter." - Blaise Pascal Sorry to dissapoint homie
@CensoredStudios
@CensoredStudios Ай бұрын
@@Hope-y9y4yexcellent comment. Read the whole thing. Agree entirely
@hamzaHrv
@hamzaHrv Ай бұрын
This was albuam of the year for me when it came out, and tbh still hits hard. It's too long, but it has a good 14 tracs that are among the best pieces of music in the 2020s so far.
@loveyoubleu
@loveyoubleu Ай бұрын
I feel so vindicated watching this. I felt like I was on an island by myself screaming why it's even called Donda. During the roll out, it was another JIK with gospel and life n death/heaven n hell talk, then all about his mom, then all about unifying ppl and rekindling friendships (The LOX, Kid Cudi, JayZ, Hoover, Drake), then it was all forgiveness/cancel culture (Chris Brown, DaBaby, Marilyn Monroe), then it was all family with the Kim shit. Everything got recontextualized and retconned over and over that the final product has no cohesive message, just fragmented ideas thinly tied together. I always wished it was more cohesive, but it's still a good time capsule of where Kanye was at and the whole insane rollout of this album. It's a "you had to be there" album. It kinda reeks of missed potential, but it was definitely really really cool in the moment.
@hen913
@hen913 Ай бұрын
FINALLY!!! I think a huge part of this albums reception was the rollout. It was extremely hyped up and he had multiple visual LIVE listening concerts leading up to the release and we heard the development of it as it went along. Another thing is the backstory with a lot of the songs, with most of them being taken from Yahndi. I can't imagine the reception being as positive after missing all of that during release. I admit I hardly listen to this album anymore but at the time I couldn't stop playing it at the gym lol
@km24329
@km24329 Ай бұрын
this is spot on lol. the stans in the comments are crying when this is the honest truth
@holdplacer
@holdplacer Ай бұрын
??? there was 1 song (Hurricane) on this album that was ripped from Yandhi and maybe one more you could kind of argue (Life of the Party) i missed all of the donda rollout and i still think the album's great
@hen913
@hen913 Ай бұрын
@@holdplacer i believe there were other early version of songs that were made a while ago
@Texmma
@Texmma Ай бұрын
“Most songs being taken from Yahndi” buddy there’s only one song hurricane what are u on about 😭😭🤦‍♀️
@hen913
@hen913 Ай бұрын
@@Texmma aiight chill i mighta overexaggerated it 😭😭
@noble3025
@noble3025 Ай бұрын
Bob, i apologize for how long this comment is going to be, but i think the length is necessary. It may sound like cope for the issues you mentioned, but i promise its more than that. There's no way for me to explain the feeling you must have currently or have had previously that is required for this album to fully click. The only way I could describe it is a spiritual readyness. I'm not a religious person, but that's what I would describe this album's feel as. It works in mysterious ways. With other albums like 808s and heartbreak, i wouldnt necessarily say theres a specific thing you have to feel or know in your heart for it to hit you the way it's intended to. Same thing with something like Blonde; both of those albums may be enhanced by one being in a specific point in their life, but it's not required to understand the album. That's not how Donda works. The biggest reason that a lot of people arent big on this album is because they haven't listened to it at the right time. I have no way to explain what the right time is. I don't think you'll ever know. But it's there, and that's when this album will hit you. I find it incredibly fitting, for this reason, that the album cover is nothing, because what is a spiritual experience if it cannot be defined personally? It's nothing, it has no real inherit meaning. Its only through the fact that they come to people at the right time that we understand what they are and what they can do. Just like this blank black square, completely open to be defined, and it is defined by your experience when you hear this at that right time. Donda is not one of my favorite albums, not even something i would say is in the top 50% of what I've heard, but the feeling i got when it finally clicked was like no other. It's like a spiritual awakening of its own. I feel like Kanye channelled that energy of that undefined spiritual experience and put it into music. If you hear it before or after your being is ready, it won't work, just like a spiritual breakthrough. Again I know all of this sounds like major cope, but it's more me explaining what I believe is the intended purpose of this body of work. It's like a wise traveler on some road that everyone walks, and not everyone who listens to what they have to say is going to understand it, because that part of the road may not be the right part of their personal journey. But when the time is right, if it ever is for you personally, I promise it will click.
@rykeneat
@rykeneat Ай бұрын
I have not seen a more accurate description of Donda than this
@mintyfresh9542
@mintyfresh9542 Ай бұрын
@@rykeneat the albums special.
@charlesdennis2235
@charlesdennis2235 Ай бұрын
Love this comment because it’s so true. My time was in my darkest lowest point in life. And sometimes I feel still like I’m living that low, but Donda was one of those albums that made me feel something. I know that darkness, I know that abyss, that’s what this album is. In the end…Hope.
@verybaguette
@verybaguette Ай бұрын
Donda chant is actually a recreation of his mother's last heartbeats
@123deOlibeira
@123deOlibeira Ай бұрын
I disagree with your view on the album's concept. It is very well defined: Kanye's mental health, his faith, a message of overcoming in the face of the pandemic, and also a tribute to his mother. The album is not just about his mother, the name Donda was also chosen later, as there were other names considered beforehand. That said, Merry Christmas!!!
@ahpusam
@ahpusam Ай бұрын
bro got 4 minutes max into the video and wrote this whole paragraph 😂
@archocystosyrinx
@archocystosyrinx Ай бұрын
wasn't it just gonna be called donda with child or something like that. donda was always the concept
@potofgoldd
@potofgoldd Ай бұрын
@@archocystosyrinx there were other versions like god's country
@Jarjar2270
@Jarjar2270 Ай бұрын
Brother in the time span of this vid coming out and you posting this comment you could not even be done with the closing thoughts unless you skipped like 3 minutes of them
@satyam.
@satyam. Ай бұрын
yeah unfortunately he seemed hyperfocused on the concept of his mother and not any of the other themes Kanye kept bringing up throughout the album
@sonagahru6965
@sonagahru6965 Ай бұрын
24 is my favorite song ever. From any artist. Playing it is legit like therapy for me. So reassuring and comforting whenever i need it. We gonna be ok. God’s not finished
@dtwjohn6378
@dtwjohn6378 Ай бұрын
Amen
@mzkk5699
@mzkk5699 Ай бұрын
first time commenting, I disagree very much with your opinion bob :/ i will definetly wait for additional thoughts. this album is very long but it makes sense since he brings a lot of different thoughts and different feelings on the table. donda is not his best work, but its up there for me. Life of the party, 24, come to life and jesus lord all hit very hard if you lost someone you shouldnt have lost in the first place
@DiscordOdvious
@DiscordOdvious Ай бұрын
Its crazy reading over the lyrics on this album almost made me tear up
@chndlrsmth
@chndlrsmth Ай бұрын
Also this album was really about the rollout, it spanned multiple months, had huge listening parties and was a major spectacle. It was a massive event the summer of 2021. plus "clb vs donda"
@Pasicho
@Pasicho Ай бұрын
Bob's reaction makes sense. Dude just listened to Ka and this is what he gets right after.
@teenxtcy
@teenxtcy Ай бұрын
its like nobody actually watches these videos cuz he literally mentions this lmao
@janno7214
@janno7214 Ай бұрын
He shouldn't have done the reaction then. Shows his lack of integrity
@hackxy1165
@hackxy1165 Ай бұрын
@janno7214 Idk, i have loved all of this reactions to all kinds of music, he actually delves into them and talks and makes points and other stuff. Much better than anyone else i can find on youtube who just smile and say good or bad.
@samxpoatan4272
@samxpoatan4272 Ай бұрын
@janno7214 not really. Just cause he listened to great artist last week, doesnt change the fact that donda is mid. it just highlighted the flaws on this album
@peterumathum4903
@peterumathum4903 Ай бұрын
​@janno7214if you have to listen to an album under very specific circumstances for it to work, the album is probably not that great
@janno7214
@janno7214 Ай бұрын
I'm sorry to say Bob but this really doesn’t feel like a legitimate open minded reaction as you normally do. For some reason you managed to give JIK a fair shake but it seems you allowed something to cloud your judgment here. This felt more like an argument or debunk rather than a reaction. idk why you'd view this album in a different light than any other Ye album. It feels like you're not trying to understand the themes and feelings being expressed but rather trying to find what you think should be there and arguing with what is rather than trying to understand and analyze it. This was just really uncharacteristically close-minded of you. You allowd yourself to be boxed into a singular false perception of the album and that dictated the whole reaction. This caused problems all throughout the reaction. Many highlights of the album were quickly glossed over because they didn't fit your made-up theme. You were looking for your perception of the album to be confirmed rather than trying to put the puzzle pieces together like you usually do and that is always my favorite part of your reactions and what makes you stand out as one of the best. The fact that this was missing here is severely disappointing. This was just overall a huge shame to see
@jeffbezos3633
@jeffbezos3633 Ай бұрын
you don't understand donda because it's basically a hysterical church album. Also it is true that a lot of the tracks are filler and didin't need to make the final cut. This is around the time kanye pissed off a lot of industry connections. The genius of kanye was his adhd and having someone else tell him whats a good idea or not. Putting him in full control as we can see with vultures 1 and 2 has not resulted in a similar level of quality to his early work.
@Antwannnn
@Antwannnn Ай бұрын
Definitely should've split this into different days lol the tension grew as you got deeper in the Donda rabbit hole
@SUPERBOSSYT
@SUPERBOSSYT Ай бұрын
cant wait for your additional thoughts! this album grew on me so i wonder how different will you view this album after more listens
@taiho07
@taiho07 Ай бұрын
Top 3 Ye for me. This album is really special.
@taiho07
@taiho07 Ай бұрын
JUNYA SLAPS
@Deadlyranger3
@Deadlyranger3 Ай бұрын
One thing about the donda album sounding slapped together is how donda actually was more happy and upbeat sounding compared to the more deeper church organ sound. Like alot of unreleased stuff Kanye himself shown off had much happier sounding songs, like hurricane used to be more bubbly, 24 hours had more of an afro style beat, if you wanna you can find these unreleased donda songs that had a more flushed out sound
@0_Cardboard_0
@0_Cardboard_0 Ай бұрын
I’ll wait for the additional thoughts before having thoughts on Bob’s thoughts
@pemp9606
@pemp9606 Ай бұрын
Not even watching the vid cause I know he hating
@Rank17Legend
@Rank17Legend Ай бұрын
@@pemp9606I hope bob spends time with the album, cus he’s missin it
@joki7352
@joki7352 Ай бұрын
@@pemp9606 hes gonna be pandering to the comments after
@kub5615
@kub5615 Ай бұрын
Junya is that one song where its essential to listen to part 2 because it infinitely better
@inovalentine
@inovalentine 19 күн бұрын
Same with Jail pt2
@aidancole5147
@aidancole5147 Ай бұрын
I do have to push against the whole "disjointed" criticism you have for this album when you could say the same for Life of Pablo yet that's your favourite kanye album. I'm interested in knowing what you like about Pablo despite it being so messy that doesn't apply to Donda.
@Zeus-ve4zg
@Zeus-ve4zg Ай бұрын
Pablo is waaaay more disjointed and messy than this by far, it just has better songs
@z1na401
@z1na401 Ай бұрын
@@Zeus-ve4zgyeah but easily the messiest ye album
@GREATSLUMBER
@GREATSLUMBER Ай бұрын
TLOP is intentionally messy. It also has songs that actually sound complete and fully fleshed out. Ye's rapping performances are also more consistently better on TLOP. The tracklist is shorter and there aren't any "part 2"s. These little things make TLOP cohesive while still being disjointed sonically. i love donda btw
@nahbro99
@nahbro99 Ай бұрын
I will say that making songs just good enough has been a theme in Kanye’s albums for a while, Donda is where we really see that start to really hear it. By Vultures 2, he’s okay releasing mumbled verses :/
@xulqarnaen
@xulqarnaen Ай бұрын
You gotta relisten to this one bob, the more the video progressed the less open minded you felt
@krusphotos
@krusphotos Ай бұрын
Ive been binge watching all your videos recently Bob, literally JUST got done watching the Watch The Throne reaction of yours, happy to see you just upload this video, this'll definitely be a treat.
@kerringtoncreation
@kerringtoncreation Ай бұрын
That’s honestly Fivio’s version of rapping like the rent due
@MideXIII
@MideXIII Ай бұрын
“I need a new girl, my old one was mean” Justice for Baby Keem ✊🏾
@MysterE95
@MysterE95 Ай бұрын
I understand what you mean by Kanye isn’t a great rapper or lyricist. He’d acknowledge that himself tbh. On College Dropout and Late Registration he had traditional rap verses and flows, since then he’s moved beyond that. So even though he’s not a great technical rapper, he’s definitely one of the best overall artists hip hop has ever seen. Maybe the best.
@ethnlcs
@ethnlcs Ай бұрын
he’s still a great rapper. his verse on we major is still one of the best in all of hip hop
@abolii
@abolii Ай бұрын
@@ethnlcsno it isnt
@ethnlcs
@ethnlcs Ай бұрын
@@abolii you’ll understand one day lil boy
@abolii
@abolii Ай бұрын
@@ethnlcs you had way better verses to pick from and you pick his we major verse 😂😂
@davidp.7917
@davidp.7917 Ай бұрын
Great! You finished Kanye's discography... What an amazing journey has been. Unfortunately there's nothing after this, but oh well. It's better to end things here I guess... Anyways, Good job, Bob!
@razzberies680
@razzberies680 Ай бұрын
I think the two biggest points that Bob missed was ,one, the fact that all of us got to feel the EXPERIENCE of kanye making the album, and the subsequent listening parties that we all tuned into , and ,two, that donda was a break off from traditional kanye and a peak into how the breakup with kim and also dealing with parenting the kids affected him
@Vader_vgc
@Vader_vgc Ай бұрын
bob btw it sounds unfinished cause the label dropped it without kanye’s permission cause he was taking too long
@BlackoutStarman
@BlackoutStarman Ай бұрын
Not true
@Vader_vgc
@Vader_vgc Ай бұрын
@ kanye posted that himself lol
@BlackoutStarman
@BlackoutStarman Ай бұрын
@@Vader_vgc He said they put it out without jail pt2 on it. Either it was because of dababys label not clearing his verse in time or the controversy of him and Manson being on it. That was what he was complaining about, not that they put it out at all because all the tracks were finished.
@Vader_vgc
@Vader_vgc Ай бұрын
@ “Universal put my album out without my approval and they blocked Jail 2 from being on the album” he says they dropped without permission and also blocked jail 2
@BlackoutStarman
@BlackoutStarman Ай бұрын
@ he also said da baby’s manager blocked the release. What he meant was is that he wanted jail pt2 on it but they told him the manager wouldn’t clear it. The manager then came out saying the wasn’t contacted so the label lied to him hence the without permission part. Pusha t, consequence etc were all posting on the day prior to the release teasing the album. If you really think that it got put out early and is still unfinished to this day with only one poorly worded ig post from Kanye to back that up, I don’t know what to say to you.
@simplypablo6506
@simplypablo6506 Ай бұрын
This reaction was kinda sad to see cause Donda is probably one of my favourite Ye albums ever especially considering the rollout and I think yes it's not as structured as MBDTF but I feel like it's closer to TLOP in terms of its maniac vibes. I feel like Donda does grow with time and it's a album that only Kanye could make.
@WaddupYT
@WaddupYT Ай бұрын
Bob being a little too harsh on a Kanye album and Kanye fans getting offended and defending it like it’s a classic😂
@dingowaffle5700
@dingowaffle5700 Ай бұрын
while it's not classic, his expectations for what it should sound like can ruin an album experience, while not a great album you should always go into an album with an open mind instead of placing judgment before it begins.
@Jay-pd9kc
@Jay-pd9kc Ай бұрын
@@dingowaffle5700Donda is a great album are you kidding me? This shit was iconic when it came out
@peterumathum4903
@peterumathum4903 Ай бұрын
​@@Jay-pd9kcit has a couple of great songs and then like 20 average songs. That's not a great album
@rustigdoen7967
@rustigdoen7967 Ай бұрын
@@peterumathum490320 average songs? please name 5 of those
@YTXoy
@YTXoy Ай бұрын
​@peterumathum4903 every song besides the part 2s and tell the vision is great-amazing.
@MusicaWins
@MusicaWins Ай бұрын
First off tysm for reacting to this, this album is amazing to me and Im glad youre able to experience it as well. In regards to the music videos: To me Donda has by far the most artistic music videos out of any kanye album and I strongly recommend them. They're nothing like the stereotypical rap music videos. They add alot to the themes of darkness and loneliness throughout the album, and having some visuals since the album cover is blank adds alot.
@izlotus
@izlotus Ай бұрын
god bless you bro, really threw us into a vision of understanding this all. i mean im young but i bet someone old enough watching your reaction can put a new perspective on the light of these songs
@FredsRTW
@FredsRTW Ай бұрын
Donda was all I wanted from Kanye since JiK was a gospel. I wanted Kanye to take it further and he did. Donda is so special to me
@puppppppppppuuuuu6205
@puppppppppppuuuuu6205 Ай бұрын
An issue I had was you mentioning how he was always trying to “convince himself” of things. If it’s not how you take in art I understand but I think it’s much to the benefit of this album if you just look at it in the context of it being raw emotions, every song will make much more sense hopefully.
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