Reacting to Farid El Atrache’s Timeless Songs | How Turkish Music Was Inspired by His Legacy

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@waleed1393 6 күн бұрын

My dear brother.. I would like to clarify that the claim made by some of Abdel Wahab's supporters, in which they claim that Farid copied the song "Spring" from Abdel Wahab's melody (Cleopatra), is incorrect... on the pretext that Farid sang the song "Spring" in 1949, while the song "Cleopatra" was in 1944, for several reasons that I will explain in the following points: 1- Farid presented the operetta "Spring Song" in the movie "Afreeta Hanem" in 1949. 2- As for the song (Spring), Farid composed it five years before that, specifically in the year (1944), according to the testimony of the poet and songwriter, Mr. Mamoun El-Shennawy (attached is the link to the meeting in which the poet Mamoun El-Shennawy mentions this fact): kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnrLlpRnl9OBg8U 3- Through this, we discover that the song (Spring) and the song (Cleopatra) were presented in the same year 1944 AD....but the question remains, who copied from the other??? 4- The answer to this question is clear from the following: In Farid's song, we find that the disputed melodic phrase is present in the lyrical introduction (in the first musical note), while in Abdel Wahab's tune, we find that the melodic phrase comes at the end of the song, specifically at the beginning of (the third verse).... The question here is... When the borrower steals any musical phrase, does he put it clearly at the beginning of the song, or does he try to hide it between the folds of the verses and musical phrases? 4- It is known that Farid's house was an open shrine for everyone, from musicians, poets, writers and artists on a daily basis, and he holds evening parties almost daily in which he sings his famous songs, and he also presents his new melodic projects to his close friends to know their opinions about them (and one of his close friends was the musician Mohamed Abdel Wahab... and I believe that this matter may answer the question). 5- It is known to all musicians and critics that Mohamed Abdel Wahab is the most famous musician to have musical quotations in his songs, and these quotations were confirmed by UNESCO when it rejected his nomination twice in a row for the UNESCO World Prize, which was won on both occasions by the great Egyptian musician Riyad Al Sunbati and the Saudi musician Tariq Abdul Hakim.

@IJayReaction 6 күн бұрын

My dear brother Waleed I am wholeheartedly grateful to you for sharing this super informative comment and I also got your message from FraidHQ! I loved the way you approached this matter and I am totally on board with you and as I mentioned in the video, I will never ever believe that Ostaz Farid has taken one single note from another artist.

@waleed1393 6 күн бұрын

@@IJayReaction Thank you very much, my brother Jay, for your elegant and polite response... and I am very happy with your interaction with my important message... through which I wanted to clarify some facts that some people are trying to hide from the public in order to hide the truth from them... and I have actually contacted my brother Farid Badra because I know your respected friendship... so that he can explain to you the truth of this subject better than me... and he responded, thank you, to my message and did not disappoint me and conveyed to you this important message... which I was very happy with your response to it when you mentioned that you are completely confident that the musician Farid al-Atrash cannot quote a musical phrase without mentioning the truth of this quote (and for your information, the musician Farid al-Atrash admitted in the beginning of his artistic career that he quoted three musical phrases and used them in his songs... but he mentioned that he quoted those phrases not because of musical weakness on his part... but he liked them very much because they were very suitable for those songs... but he said after that that he stopped quoting after he felt that continuing with the method of quoting would affect his creativity And his musical imagination weakens...so he stopped quoting completely after those three sentences) I wanted to clarify this important information so that no one would exploit these three sentences in an attempt to diminish the value and genius of the great musician Farid Al-Atrash and to clarify that he admitted those quotations at the beginning of his artistic career with all courage and did not hide them from the masses as other musicians unfortunately do...this is what I wanted to clarify and explain...with my abundant thanks and appreciation to you for your great and distinguished efforts on this wonderful channel, wishing you continued success and prosperity

@IJayReaction 6 күн бұрын

@@waleed1393 I am grateful to you for taking your time and dropping this informative comment. While you definitely have a point and your reasoning is totally understandable, this is a bit more complicated than it looks. After discussing with Fareed Al Badra, it seems that original song of Rabeea didn't have this intro that sounds like Abdel Wahab's song! That intro started in the 1970s concerts. Apparently Farid Al Atrache had composed this intro before 1944 and as they were close friends and God knows what was the agreement between them, this intro shows up in the song of Abdul Wehab and then it is being added to the intro of Rabeea later on.

@waleed1393 5 күн бұрын

@@IJayReaction Thank you, my brother Jay, for the comment...and please clarify more about what you mentioned in your comment regarding your discussion with our friend Farid Badra...specifically your statement that this lyrical introduction appeared in the seventies AD??? Because the musical introduction to the song "Al-Rabi'" was present in the original CD when it first appeared. So please clarify this information that you mentioned??? Note: (I hope to hear the two phrases in the two musical phrases that are similar in an accurate and deep way.....and that you express your own opinion....Which musical phrase (choose between the two) seems more consistent and smooth in the melodic phrase and which seems more in harmony with the lyrics of the song???) 1- Al-Rabi' (Farid Al-Atrash): kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZ22aJhjeNKnpNE 2- (Cleopatra) Mohamed Abdel Wahab Minute (15:42): kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2O6gXVujJ2ggqs

@adnanrufaioglu5643 22 күн бұрын

Yesterday we talked about farid,ferdi and abdelwahab . And i think this is a good suggestion video that shows how Farid and Abdelwahab were close friends, In 1960 may 12 an assassination was failed that targeted Abdelwahab and in the hospital Farid visited him and Farid played with the oud of abdelwahab to cheer him up . Very rare video and beautiful. U can c both of them singing and enjoying pure art . And during farid playing oud u can hear Abdelwahab saying ;”how great u r” or “allah allah” or “ is that sound really coming from my oud” .. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKKWqHmDe6h-Zs0si=YrX3WOel5mWu1hYh

@ziad6608 22 күн бұрын

Nurh 😓😓💔

@2011bibobibo 22 күн бұрын

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@adnanrufaioglu5643 22 күн бұрын

For anyone who might say that is “stealing” i say be respectful! … those are big artists and we can only say “RIP” 🤍🦋

@tarareef 18 күн бұрын

As a matter of fact, ALRABIH was composed by Farid El-Atrache around the month of March 1944. Ma'amoun Alshinnawi the Poet who wrote ALRABIH said that during a Radio interview. Alshinnawi added the song was originally written to Umm Kalthoum , Umm Kalthoum wants to change some words in the song, so Shinnawi told her sorry not a single word. Shinnawi left UMM Kalthoum home and went straight to Farid's house. Farid listened to the poem and according to Shinnawi Farid composed the song in 3 days. Abdul Wahhab composed Cleopatra around the seconed half of 1944.