Reacting to "FF14 Dawntrail - The Most DIVISIVE MSQ in HISTORY" by

[@hunterofpeace9840]

Regarding Galool Ja Ja's death. It should have been an echo! Have us open the door to the throne room, and have Zoral Ja standing over Galool Ja Ja's body. Then we echo the fight scene while the other's try and save Galool Ja Ja.

[@Dostwyn]

Why didn't Bakool Ja Ja get disqualified after he kidnapped and almost killed a judge, or when he unleashed a monster that once threatened half the continent? Why do we first learn about farming techniques when we arrive in Heritage Found, instead of immediately asking "What are those things on your heads? Zoraal Ja used one of them to kill the Dawnservant"? Why didn't we offer to heal that one kid in Solution Nine who's sick because of too much lightning aether? Shouldn't a porxie be able to fix that? Why didn't we mention that we saw Sphene during the attack on Tuliyollal? Why didn't Krile mention the soul sucking? Why don't immediately ask what's on the storage device in the earring?

[@ventusvero4484]

"Don't think too much about it, the writers didn't" is what I am told.

[@BaithNa]

I lived in NYC and learned how to greet people in at least 5 different languages before I graduated from high school

[@Kasaaz]

Endwalker had some mixing issues early on too. I remember after the Venat Cutscene, the big one, when you're laying on the floor of the Oculus in the Tower... At least on launch that next line would BLOW YOUR EARS OUT. They did eventually fix it I think.

[@normalmighty]

I've been watching some old podcasts lately from when post-stormblood patches first came out, and for every patch people were immediately talking about a couple of scenes or characters with absolutely horrendous voice direction and mixing. I was actually really surprised when everyone got up in arms about that this expansions, because I thought it had always ben pretty lacking and that we were all on the same page about that.

[@Kasaaz]

@@normalmighty I think they have a good record of going back and fixing it, so most people didn't realize unless they played it at launch.

[@katarh]

My fix for the Gulool Ja Ja scene would have been to have him toss out an eletrope force field that paralyzes everyone and makes it so we CAN'T interfere, right after he revives. Paralysis is a lightning adjacent debuff, so it would make perfect sense.

[@mismismism]

Dawntrail... It's Stormblood 2.0, most people were not a fan of the MSQ but almost everyone praised the gameplay stuff. That's the silver lining at least, even for people like me that did not like the MSQ, it was still fun and I have high hopes for the patch content to be fun regardless of the story issues.

[@normalmighty]

And post-stormblood msq got really freaking good at points.

[@mismismism]

@normalmighty Yeah, that's why I'm not all doom and gloom over DT, I enjoyed the raid story so far, if they land the patch content and alliance story, it could be essentially the same thing that happened with SB, hopefully they can end DT on a high note.

[@ArmageddonEvil]

Dawntrail is actually a 2.0 of 2.0 and 4.0. ARR and Stormblood, but I enjoyed Stormblood's pacing issues. In terms of the story anyways. Since you had to face Zenos at the end of it.

[@BorgWolf359]

I agree with Preach about everything especially the death of the King & Kryle's story! I as The Warrior of Light would have stepped in & stopped the attack! I hated that I just saved the whole Universe & I just stand there & watch the Evil Villian kill King Gulool Ja Ja!!! I love Sphene & I want more of her!

[@throgdarthebrute]

What Preach meant was not adding Wuk to Zero's story, it was replacing Zero's story completely, saving that for another time, and building up Wuk Lamata during the EW patches leading into DT, which probably would have helped her if they wrote her halfway decently.

[@VashimuXIV]

For as divisive as the launch of 7.0 has been, I still have a good deal of hope for the future patches and continuation of the new journey we are on will be a worthwhile one, addressing more plot threads and tying into the eventual launch as 8.0. I don’t blame anyone turned off by it, to say some stuff didn’t stick as they were throwing stuff at the wall to see how people would be receptive too it is an understatement, but I think it’s still worth being along for the journey. Perhaps it’s more naïveté to just hope it’ll be improve, but I side with Kyle on saying that I want to see how this new writing team handles the future of XIV’s narrative. I want to be there when it’s all said and done, knowing I stick through it fully.

[@BaithNa]

I don't see what's left in Tural for us to do and I don't think there's even anything left to explore with Wuk, Koana and the people of Tural. The entire 7.0 MSQ seems like a stop gap to get us a key to other worlds. That's the only logical and interesting place for the story to go.

[@normalmighty]

Seeing the constant stormblood parallels getting made is actually giving me hope, because I thought stormblood had the post-expansion patches - both story and content wise - out of any expansion.

[@MaydaTiger]

Thanks for those taking care of this channel

[@789654123654789]

I heard similar complaints about being backseated to the main character with Zero, though that was largely moderated by FF4 nostalgia. Without the relentless thirst for Zero, or the nostalgia from FF4, I too, feel like Wuk Lamat was doomed, and would have gone over better if we had not literally just done the same mentoring role over the past two years of patch content.

[@BaithNa]

I didn't find Zero to be anything more than mid, looks wise, and I've never played FF4 and I found her story to be very interesting because it added more lore to the 13th and how it'll recover from complete devastation. We've been hearing about the 13th since ARR and I thought it was cool to finally go there and see how a world of monsters opperates.

[@Bongaboi151]

Viva Preach. Viva life.

[@tazersmurf4689]

I think they could have wrapped up the stuff with Zero in 6.4 and yet I'm not confident that giving us more Wuk Lamat prior to 7.0 would really help. At least not with some.

[@lsschwartz]

Unless it was more then and less on 7.0 spread it out a bit.

[@desdenova1]

Jessie Cox and WeskAlber have the best DT takes, Preach's takes are pretty good too.

[@tameelah3839]

Morning!

[@BaithNa]

I feel this MSQ could have been saved with one of two simple changes Make Wuk and Koana the newly crowned Dawnservants before they come to Eorzea and they seek out the Scions to investigate a dome or domes popping up in Tural. Drop the whole Tural story and make 7.0 about the Scions going to the world of darkness to aid Zero.

[@normalmighty]

Okay while I agree with the ideas, "throw out either 50% or 100% of the msq and replace it with something else" is definitely not a simple change.

[@siencrosse3400]

hello all o/

[@MonosEx]

20:30 ???? Hello, Zoral Ja ????

[@rjwojo1]

Morning all o/

[@miriamweller812]

ShB story was already so bad (with furthe cut content adding to it) that FF14 lost such a big amount of players, that they had to make a PR campaign by paying WoW social media trolls to lure in new players. EW was even worse to the level of disgusting, but of course DT makes the big mistake that it stop catering to the peopel who eat any shit as long as they can feel like that four year old kid's fantasy of being the invincible super hero with magic shields against everything and always right and winning without any effort.