The best part about modern hip hop is the diversity. There's more rap music coming out now than ever and more subgenres than ever before. People who hate on modern hip hop or modern music, in general, have probably only heard a few current artists if they didn't find anyone they liked.
@daryl75312 жыл бұрын
Hip hop never got worse or better since the Internet age. The pool just got bigger so there are a lot more terrible rappers than any other era but there are also a lot more dope rappers.
@joshuaray70092 жыл бұрын
Country rap is one of the best sub genres
@comisarsefrusu39752 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaray7009 HAHAHAHA SWEET HOME ALABAMA
@angelusgnz57842 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaray7009 🗑
@tyrellwellick51522 жыл бұрын
Dumbed down music
@__cal292 жыл бұрын
Referencing that last take, I never understood why some people think you can only like lyrical rap or melodic/mumble/trap rap. Some of my favorite rappers are some of the best wordsmiths ever like Kendrick, black thought, Nas, MF DOOM, but that doesn’t mean I can’t also love listening to Playboi Carti, Travis Scott, and Thugger.
@KevinTheVillian2 жыл бұрын
Facts lol Kendrick my all time favorite rapper, but i tell you I been bumping My Turn by Lil baby in my car like it just came out
@matthewcarpenter45722 жыл бұрын
W hiphop fan
@imrannben2 жыл бұрын
W fans
@muffingod17342 жыл бұрын
W
@col70042 жыл бұрын
I’m like you but reversed, love the mumble/melodic/psychedelic/trap sub genre a little more but I also love me some lyrical and old school. I’m glad to see somebody not completely dump on “new rap” or even the other way around. it’s refreshing to hear
@aryantyagi21372 жыл бұрын
I really hope this becomes a series, I would love to see some TikTok/KZbin comments as well
@DGEL19042 жыл бұрын
I had a mental breakdown to wish you were here the other day
@NFRPodcast2 жыл бұрын
Yes that would be really dope!
@OhThatsLo2 жыл бұрын
@@NFRPodcast This has to become a series please!!!!
@loverboyclement67672 жыл бұрын
@@DGEL1904 dude what are you okay??
@Goated_EddieBrock2 жыл бұрын
Please no TikTok 🙅♂️
@Whodnl2 жыл бұрын
Here’s a hot take NFR has never missed on a video.
@manishsashi54202 жыл бұрын
Frrrrrr
@jimbomby60752 жыл бұрын
Not even a hot take bc it’s true
@Whodnl2 жыл бұрын
@@jimbomby6075 you see the visions
@chans69862 жыл бұрын
cold tbh. Everyone knows this already.
@NFRPodcast2 жыл бұрын
Love you all🙏
@Kiki-xx3fj2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s unfair to put someone like Eminem out of a top 10 list because of catalog and still put Biggie in a higher spot when he has such a small catalog comparably. Who knows what Biggie would have been putting out 10,15 or even 20 years after his death? I feel like all have to be judged on their best projects and compared that way.
@nolanfarrell17672 жыл бұрын
That’s a great way to go about it compare like top few albums from everyone
@mthokozisindlovu45662 жыл бұрын
Agreed. And as someone who hates Eminems recent music, his first 3 album run still puts him in top 5 imo
@francoisturcotte39822 жыл бұрын
100% agree. and Eminem Discography isn't as bad as.some people claim it to be. imo he has only 3 bad projects (revival duh, encore and mmlp2) the rest of his discography is pretty solid. but yeah he is top 10 purely because of his amazing 99-05 run.
@nolanfarrell17672 жыл бұрын
@@francoisturcotte3982 I actually love encore I really only revisit kamikaze encore TES and recovery
@elijenkins94122 жыл бұрын
@@francoisturcotte3982 he is literally the best selling rapper of all time
@lawrencejohnson33882 жыл бұрын
This definitely needs a part 2
@igobyxoxomusicunderaxlprks90002 жыл бұрын
I agree
@mysaintlaurent5662 жыл бұрын
In response to the point about Kanye’s singing at 5:04 I’d actually argue that Kanye’s singing being as off key and rough as it is makes it better. Songs like 24 and ghost town wouldn’t hit nearly as much if Kanye’s vocals were completely clean. Whenever he sings i feel like you can hear the soul and emotion in it.
@thomasgledhill37062 жыл бұрын
Luca- “It’s too soon to give Kendrick the crown” Also Luca- Biggie with 2 albums is the best rapper of all time.
@opblitz623 Жыл бұрын
It’s fax
@nickelwrangler446 Жыл бұрын
Well considering time has passed, its more reasonable. I don't think biggie is #1, but his skills and discography are undeniably in the top 3-5 minimum
@opblitz623 Жыл бұрын
@@nickelwrangler446 he is no 2
@shaffer847 ай бұрын
Cuz biggie got shot so he could only make 2 💀
@beracmalina71735 ай бұрын
@@shaffer84 yea, but so what?
@victorvadmand8532 жыл бұрын
This has to become a series 🔥
@NFRPodcast2 жыл бұрын
One of our best videos?
@igobyxoxomusicunderaxlprks90002 жыл бұрын
@@NFRPodcast it is hard to choose, but this is a very creative segment and would make a great series
@lukerman5102 жыл бұрын
@@NFRPodcast one of yes
@frosty4ever2 жыл бұрын
@@NFRPodcast 100%.make it longer
@ashtonhamilton10552 жыл бұрын
Yesssssssss
@ttt7337jjj Жыл бұрын
I love y’all’s videos. It’s the most realistic podcast when it comes to music discussions. It’s like listening to my friends talk about music. Other music channels just try too hard to be as esoteric as possible and it comes across as unnatural sometimes. Y’all are informed enough to have good convo but not so pious to the point where ur content is too exclusive. Much love
@WuwuWuwuTV2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Hip Hop is mainly rivaled by Folk in dynamic storytelling and overall songwriting ability. Both are not always based on technique of vocal range but mostly the emotional deliver and the way it sets a tone. When highlighted both can bring you somewhere. Hip Hop is a bit more layered with hidden complex themes that are more culturally enriched with insider terms. Folk however feels more closer to a novelist showcasing his sense of surrounding and building to an overall ending like a story whereas hip hop often feels like multiple stories in one song like a book of short stories. When done right both are amazing.
@JC190212 жыл бұрын
Favorite folk albums?
@KevinTheVillian2 жыл бұрын
Love Folk and Folk punk. I agree with this take big time.
@Jenklejankles2 жыл бұрын
I’m the biggest Kanye fan but I totally agree with the rapping take. When you listen to his verses on his first albums, the world play, the personality, the message, all of it is completely perfect. In his recent stuff sure thematically it’s interesting(in terms of the death of his mother, religion and such) but there’s nothing whatsoever that stands out about his bars! The production is wonderful as always but I feel like he’s losing his way a little bit which pains me because he’s one of the greatest artists of all time imo.
@CaelanDafydd2 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest problem is his flow. He used to really find his groove on the beat, thinking of songs like Flashing Lights, Heard Em Say & Gorgeous where he sounds great regardless of the bars Compare that to his flow on Hurricane, Eazy, Violent Crimes where he comes off as really stale He's my favourite artist of all time, so I feel like you. At this point I'd rather see him curate, produce, sing and only spit bars rarely when he has something fire to say & is pumped up to do it
@mizfiz94252 жыл бұрын
Honestly Donda was a pretty mid album. It just doesn’t stand with his other albums. Rip Donda though
@chuyito70952 жыл бұрын
yeah for sure, kanye lyrically just keeps getting worse and worse, but! musically and production wise i think he is honestly at his peak, his most recent albums, donda, kids see ghosts, ye, the life of pablo, all of these albums have some of the best production i think ive ever heard, especially in kids see ghosts and the life of pablo.
@someguy40462 жыл бұрын
@@mizfiz9425 It could've been great but it's bloated songs like Come to Life and Moon are some of his best but then there's Remote Control and if he trimmed down the album especially all the part 2 tracks it coulee been great
@mizfiz94252 жыл бұрын
@@someguy4046 fr
@harry-mb4sn2 жыл бұрын
Y’all make great content fr. I’d like to see some expansion from hip hop a little bit but I’m really enjoying this stuff. Keep going.
@igobyxoxomusicunderaxlprks90002 жыл бұрын
Hiphop is the #1 genre in the world
@harry-mb4sn2 жыл бұрын
@@igobyxoxomusicunderaxlprks9000 ok bro. But I’d still recommend branching out to everyone.
@Mojacaine2 жыл бұрын
@@harry-mb4sn I agree
@ewest142 жыл бұрын
I agree. I think some of their takes would be more interesting and valid if they branched out and learned more about other music
@parris984572 жыл бұрын
I think hip hop has become the most versatile genre. You can have a raw lyricist built album or you can have a Tyler the creator type album where productions and sounds are a big factor in the music. I don’t see any other genre bending the rules to the extent that hip hop does.
@Prodbyjah4642 жыл бұрын
Yeah that hip hop take just screams ignorance and it’s extremely disrespectful
@parris984572 жыл бұрын
@@Prodbyjah464 how?
@Prodbyjah4642 жыл бұрын
@@parris98457 no not yours I meant the one from the video saying rap isn’t a good genre and has no depth or what not
@parris984572 жыл бұрын
@@Prodbyjah464 oh, yeah I completely forgot about this video lol
@ewest142 жыл бұрын
More genres than just hip hop have done those things. There are raw confessional albums and big production albums in rock as well. This has been going on in music since at least the 60s/70s but probably longer
@shreykhare88412 жыл бұрын
Some years back i used to thought the same about rap that it doesn't contains emotions and shit but after listening to so many great records my opinion has 110% changed,and i feel like that the guy who posted on reddit just doesn't have much knowledge and experience of rap music.
@aryantyagi21372 жыл бұрын
My thoughts on every take 1 - I judge artist through consistency, songs, albums, impact/influence, and skill. Eminem is inconsistent, has great songs, solid albums, massive impact, and a lot of skill so i might have him in top 10 but i can see why someone wont 2 - Kendrick is top 5 all time he's amazing in every category 3 - Kanye shows crazy good rapping at moments but it's not something he focuses on a lot of the time 4. Terrible take. People like this priase artist like Lou Reed/The Velvet Underground when they talk about overdosing on herion and prostitutes but god forbid a rapper talks about not being poor anymore. 5 - Half true. Music as a whole is very competitive and that's what makes it fun. 6 - I'm sure this person would love new gen rap if he actual found what he likes as there is so much different types of rap being made in the mainstream and underground. 7 - I hated Thug originally as well can't blame this guy his opinion would probably change after time
@exotic_blitz77472 жыл бұрын
enjoyability, hits, and voice are what hurt him. 90% of k dots music is thought provoking and doesn’t have much bangers. with few exceptions from damn n gkmc and maybe 2 songs from tpab. it’s what makes him amazing but it’s also what makes him an acquired taste. if he had more hits like maad city, alright, humble, dna, king kunta, swimming pools, or xxx he would be an easier listen while still creating thought provoking music. he’s still top 10-11. he’ll def be top 5 when it’s all said and done.
@exotic_blitz77472 жыл бұрын
@@NoName-yy3wb ik yeain ask me but in no order iss: biggie jay nas a3k black thought rakim wayne ye em big L
@exotic_blitz77472 жыл бұрын
also k dot doesn’t really have much influence on hip hop. i have not heard one rapper say they got their blueprint from him
@gggyy71042 жыл бұрын
@@NoName-yy3wb literally every category is subjective though
@BIMYOUJR2 жыл бұрын
@@exotic_blitz7747 Logic famously ripped a lot of his stuff from kendrick.
@youngboybetter4872 жыл бұрын
Best rap channel by far, your ideas are great fr
@NFRPodcast2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@igobyxoxomusicunderaxlprks90002 жыл бұрын
and authentic...there's a lot of review and interview channels that are clearly paid for gossip and pr rather than the truth. It is refreshing to see that podcasts like this exists in an era like this
@Imtempxst2 жыл бұрын
Nfr at it again!🔥🔥 Great video need this to be a series!!
@igobyxoxomusicunderaxlprks90002 жыл бұрын
If the comment sections votes matter, this will become a series
@vincentlorico86242 жыл бұрын
My top 10 1- Biggie 2- Nas 3- Eminem 4- Tupac 5- Jay z 6- Kanye 7- Kendrick 8- Rakim 9- Andre 3k 10- Black Thought
@Weir.7212 жыл бұрын
1: Pac 2: Biggie 3: Eminem 4: MF DOOM 5: Nas 6: Jay Z 7: Kendrick 8: Rakim 9: Andre 3000 10: Dr Dre
@flylord007 Жыл бұрын
“How could you define hip-hop as something that’s derived of any intelligence?”(05:58) 😂
@Keniswavy2 жыл бұрын
How this channel doesnt have a milly subs is beyond me. Great content, yall are crushing.
@Scho2292 жыл бұрын
Best format yet!
@benisblunt72 жыл бұрын
As a rap and a rock fan, the '2 minute solo argument' hurt me.
@Omar-rx6ms2 жыл бұрын
Really loved this. Should definitely make this a series.
@finnmacleod37744 ай бұрын
You lot NEED to replay the best song off vultures 2, the bad ones hide the hidden jems. 530, take off your dress, RIVER, TIME MOVING SLOW - I even got hyped up by BOMB when i watched it getting played live on youtube with yuno miles (sadly retired) like its quite fun and bouncy. Idc what people say, i havent even heard half the songs off the album but the ones i have heard, ive enjoyed.
@igobyxoxomusicunderaxlprks90002 жыл бұрын
Whoever is the creative director of NFR PODCAST needs a raise....NFR is the future of hiphop reviews for the culture...no phonies...no fakes...no misses...no skips
@jorgejr4332 жыл бұрын
Can we make this a regula thing. I really like how y’all break down the arguments and give a reasonable explanation
@The1WithoutFear Жыл бұрын
9:30 - in reference to your point about hip-hop not really having another genre that weighs as "competitive" or "analyzed," I would counter-argue (respectfully of course) that the mentality is also apparent in a lot of metal circles - debating topics like whether or not 60s and 70s hard rock count as metal, when Metallica fell off, the relevance of volume or output when it comes to live shows, and more, are all discussions you'll see repeated on a wide number of metal music forums.
@igobyxoxomusicunderaxlprks90002 жыл бұрын
I FVCKIN LOVE HOW FIERCELY PROTECTIVE LOU & ANT ARE OF OUR CULTURE! #NFRPODCAST #NOSKIPS #NOMISSES
@jacobneiman54632 жыл бұрын
Fantastic episode… you guys are so entertaining to listen to
@HolyDays-2 жыл бұрын
When Kendrick did the “control” verse, hip hop definitely became competitive
@paddytroy10922 жыл бұрын
was competitive way before that homie
@ntlake19 күн бұрын
Bro hip hop is competitive in nature, always has been, always will be. Kendrick has nothing to do with that.
@trenhen43112 жыл бұрын
When kanye wants too he can most definitely bust out an amazing verse. Wouldn’t leave is still one of his best verses oat imo
@elpoodoo309910 ай бұрын
His verse on Jesus Lord is also one of his best this last decade. He doesn’t just rap well, the rap has actual deep meaning and is emotional
@trenhen431110 ай бұрын
@@elpoodoo3099 agreed. Though I fear vultures radiates emotional immaturity and arrogance. It lacks the humanity and realness that he’d kept with through his whole career.
@IolZ555 Жыл бұрын
5:24 If you asked me about my opinion on rap and hip hop 6 months ago, I would’ve agreed with this take. But after exposing myself to hip hop and rap that I now love, I feel like my music taste has expanded. To that person with that steamy take I say listen to To Pimp A Butterfly and say with a straight face that it’s irrelevant and has no variety of sounds.
@ccratsley57362 жыл бұрын
Have y’all heard his verse on city of gods tho??? He snapped, Ye just does what he wants when he wants like a lot of other artists.
@traplover63572 жыл бұрын
That third take on r/changemyview is definitely Ben Shapiro's dad who dropped from music school.
@Matthew1324_2 жыл бұрын
Listening from South Africa keep up the good vids 🙏‼️
@Blonde-ocean2 жыл бұрын
brooklynbluenotes is absolutely right. I have never in my life seen a more ranking based genre. Everyone compares everyone, sales, lyrically and people that aint even trying to do the same. It can bring out the best in artists though, i think their is a good side to it too.
@Mx.Hancock2 жыл бұрын
Best rap discussion content I’ve seen! Keep it up!
@Rochefamilyvids2 жыл бұрын
You guys should do a video comparing both of yours top 10
@igobyxoxomusicunderaxlprks90002 жыл бұрын
That would be cool. I am sure they are similar, it would be cool to see a debate as too why they put someone in a number 1 slot vs a number 5 and vice versa
@goatturner89272 жыл бұрын
I LOVE THESE TYPE VIDS
@igobyxoxomusicunderaxlprks90002 жыл бұрын
I love everything NFR has put out so far
@kzntheone2 жыл бұрын
I really don't get why we always shit on Eminem and force him to constantly prove himself, when people like Biggie and 2pac barely put out enough albums to be considered the greatest of all times, while Eminem has put out 3 of the greatest albums of all time and released enough music for multiple lifetimes.
@rogue92302 жыл бұрын
It's not a our quantity of albums it's about quality the two albums that biggie released are easily sum of the best rap albums of all time same for 2pac they never made a single bad song
@Life0fGreg2 жыл бұрын
You’re not the ignorant ones. You guys are on point
@savxlandon55582 жыл бұрын
I want to see more of these, I Love hot take videos, there always very interesting
@NFRPodcast2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sav!
@Mj-uz1ng2 жыл бұрын
Love the topic! 🙌🏾
@blondedkatch2 жыл бұрын
the only reason that guy said rap doesn't have musical elements, no tones, and is about bitches and hoes is because: *drumroll* they clearly have only listened to one playboi carti song 💀
@danedopeboy66232 жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always boys!!!
@babycakes97052 жыл бұрын
when the person said rap isn’t worth listening to i think they were leaning more towards trap
@21stCENTURYSCHIZOIDMAN Жыл бұрын
Is it just more or do I like it when artists who can't sing, sing? It just feels so soulfull and personalised.
@zaiddawood88972 жыл бұрын
Em and Ye both proved everything they need to already. Yet em receives so much hate for flexing his bars these days But Ye has been rapping trash for the past 5 years nobody says anything bc the production is good
@ronaldonwoke2004 Жыл бұрын
Cus em is white
@kanyeast2003 Жыл бұрын
Because today hip-hop is more about production biggest album of the year 2023 Utopia
@justsomebloke4602 жыл бұрын
awesome video would love to see a part 2
@youngboybetter4872 жыл бұрын
I love how I have a different music taste than you but I still agree everything what you say
@igobyxoxomusicunderaxlprks90002 жыл бұрын
I like how they are genuine...it doesn't seem like they're being paid by labels to align with certain artists on albums...There are a lot of "review" channels that are backed to either detract from decent work or prop up mediocrity...so far....it doesn't seem like NFR is in that lane and I think that is a business model for long term success
@manishsashi54202 жыл бұрын
Video idea : tier list of 2010s albums .....please like so they can see!
@emanuelecampostrini94892 жыл бұрын
I think there are two ways to make a great track: be in innovative under the content pov, be innovative under the form pov. Usually we don't have just one of them, it's a sort of mix BUT in Young Thug case I can understand the lack of content in many cases but he's been such an innovation in the rap scenario that it's the form that has become the content itself. I dunno if I explicited my idea in the best way but I tried my best :)
@Weir.7212 жыл бұрын
1: I would personally put Eminem in my top five favourites and best rappers of all time. That being said with his significant drop in quality recently and a whole host of less mainstream rappers who are equally good I could understand him not being in a top 10 list, at least if it’s not out of fanboying or hate for him. 2: Kendrick is the best modern rapper by far, I could see for why someone would put him in the top 5 and he’s definitely top 10 (15 if you’re being picky) but I wouldn’t agree with anything above number 4. I don’t have a particularly good reason though, just I feel that the top three are still above him for some reason, feel free to prove me wrong. 3: I don’t listen to any of Kanyes stuff, no real reason I’ve just never bothered so I can’t make a judgment. 4: 4ish years ago I kept hearing mumble rap or crap UK drill on BBC radio, and I thought that was the whole genre so I never listened to it but then I heard my dads Jurassic 5 album and was holy shit that’s great what genre is this, looked it up. Hip hop. Listened to all their songs decided I liked it. Eventually got into more and more stuff and here I am with a 53 hour hip hop playlist. So I can understand why this guy thinks that rap is shit, because he’s probably just heard the same shit I heard on the radio and none of the good stuff knowing it was hip hop. 5: I agree that people take it way to far in the competitive stuff ( that’s right I’m looking at you Eminem fanboys) but if it’s just oh I prefer x rapper for this reason and it’s just a friendly debate or a serious objective talk that can be really fun, and, like you say, almost like a sport. 6: I can heavily relate to the modern rap stuff, I’m very picky with new stuff, i litterally only listen to KL, J Cole, Lil Simz, Denzel curry and a small bit of lil Wayne from the new gen but LOADS of older stuff, it’s just a matter of preference. 7: Don’t listen to any of thugs stuff so I can’t comment.
@HenkoxHD2 жыл бұрын
I wish I can experience my first time listening to Kanye again
@x4.vier_koh9982 жыл бұрын
in terms of new rappers i feel that JID is a amazing lyricist and a great rapper in general. you can check him out and the forever story ( which is his latest album ) is really good
@Weir.7212 жыл бұрын
@@x4.vier_koh998, i literally have just listened to that album like 2 hours before you commented that lol
@BACKDOORBROWNIE7102 жыл бұрын
@@HenkoxHD bro same. I remember when I first went to listen to him. I didn’t expect it to be good at all. I expected him to be another overrated asf artist. But then I listened to graduation and it’s amazing. Then I listened to college dropout, then late Registration, and I just listened to the rest from there. and now he’s one of my favorites
@Turtle4402 жыл бұрын
Please more long form content I do not care what you guys talk about but please more I love it
@NFRPodcast2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Austyn you’re awesome
@Turtle4402 жыл бұрын
😨
@linkthastink2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the fire content guys ! Dope idea ! 💡 🔥
@igobyxoxomusicunderaxlprks90002 жыл бұрын
creative direction of this show never fails
@Kissthering282 жыл бұрын
this channel is a massive W
@lordrapgod48032 жыл бұрын
Saying ‘Modern Rap’ and throwing it all in one big box is crazy to me. In the 90s rap music was fairly new and was strictly bars over beats and it took slow baby steps to even get to that point from where it began in the 70s, because it was brand new and the internet that we have today wasn’t a thing. Obviously when the internet did start coming into play hip-hop began to evolve at a much quicker rate. Hip-Hop evolves year after year. Sometimes it seems like all it takes is one big moment to shift the culture. It can all happen so fast now. It’s crazy to me when people say they only like rap music that came out of the 90s… 30 years later it’s become so big that there are sub genres within the hip-hop umbrella. At the end of the day you simply just need to know what you’re looking for because it’s all out there. It’s just on you to find it. For me I listen to the spitters. Tbh I think it’s as good as it’s ever been if not better in my personal opinion. I don’t fuck with the Carti’s, Uzi’s, Yachty, Trippie etc. but I think it’s super dope that all of that exists for the people who actually do love that. If you don’t like a certain type of hip-hop then that’s fine cause there are so many other sections of the genre that you can explore.
@greg_levine2 жыл бұрын
My reactions: 1. False 2. Abstain - I’m not much of a classic rap fan, but very respectable take. 3. True 4. False (obviously) - Except the part about b*tches and h*es (and other lyrics with negative messages). 5. True - It should all be in good fun, not a personal attack on someone, which is too common. 6. True 7. True
@WilBCE2 жыл бұрын
Love it. Do more of this please.
@chasenewman12 жыл бұрын
NFR never misses
@NFRPodcast2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you Chase
@igobyxoxomusicunderaxlprks90002 жыл бұрын
THE FUTURE OF HIPHOP CONTENT
@TylerG132 жыл бұрын
3:03 I completely agree honestly. Look at Donda and Donda 2, they’re on completely different levels. Donda had some of Ye’s best lyricism of his entire career and then Donda 2 had basically nothing even worth listening to. I haven’t replayed a single Donda 2 track besides Happy and I only replay it for Future’s verse.
@spiderjeff58452 жыл бұрын
Well Donda 2 is nowhere near complete on the lyrics side and it’s still being finished so that’s not a fair comparison, but I still agree 100 percent, Ye isn’t focused on lyrics anymore he puts most of his focus into the soundscape of his albums which is nice but I do miss when he had stronger rapping
@TylerG132 жыл бұрын
@@spiderjeff5845 The thing with saying Donda 2 is nowhere near complete, is that it’s really bullshit that this man wants his fans to pay $200 for a Stem player where they don’t even receive a finished product. Thank god I didn’t need to pay for it to listen to it. $200 and the album isn’t finished and there is no release date planned still, it’s absolutely horrendous. I listen to Donda for free every single day and I have all 3 of the listening parties downloaded too.
@Rob_M_82 жыл бұрын
@@TylerG13 If people spend $200 on the stem player just for Donda 2, that’s on them. The $200 is for the device. You’re buying the stem player not the album
@TylerG132 жыл бұрын
@@Rob_M_8 This isn’t even debatable, you’re supposed to buy the Stem player for Donda 2. Ye has said it himself multiple times, you’re supposed to buy the player to hear the album. That’s why sales for the Stem player went up so much, was because people figured they could only hear the album on the player. That’s not “On them,” that’s how Ye marketed the album. You can’t look at his audience buying and supporting his product and then go “Well that’s on them.” No bro, it’s on Kanye for not delivering what he was saying he would deliver.
@spiderjeff58452 жыл бұрын
@@TylerG13 He can take as much time as he needs, I want a great album not a mediocre one, and the 200 dollars isn’t just for the album you also can download the stems to lots of other songs it’s more for producers anyways no one said you have to buy it.
@AnishRana1112 жыл бұрын
There should be always debate in hiphops cause at the end of the we take one artist and feel proud for them
@solas4442 жыл бұрын
That top 10 in the first few minutes was super duper solid
@Matt-cu8ly2 жыл бұрын
top 10 hh artists: 1) Mac Miller 2) Kanye 3) MF DOOM 4) Kendrick 5) Jay-Z 6) Andre 3000 7) Earl 8) Black Thought 9) Pac 10) Peggy
@atikeltzerihun65322 жыл бұрын
eminem top 2 , after pac
@screamingbanana43914 ай бұрын
W on Mac Miller
@joeglinn71512 жыл бұрын
I think swearing in rap just sometimes makes a point and makes it more emotional
@yeetomcheeto49982 жыл бұрын
That top 10 list was actually by me! But it’s an older list so let me just show you guys the changes real quick with a top 15. THANK YOU 1. Andre 3000 2. Kendrick Lamar 3. Kanye 4. Jay-Z 5. NaS 6. Black Thought 7. Ghostface Killah 8. Lupe Fiasco 9. Biggie 10. MF DOOM 11. Eminem 12. 2Pac 13. Scarface 14. Freddie Gibbs 15. Common HM: Rakim
@Daniel-ch2vf2 жыл бұрын
Kinda making a joke out of yourself bro. You can’t put someone like Gibbs over 2pac and Biggie objectively. You can be a bigger fan of him, but you can’t say he’s a better rapper.
@24klogan862 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel-ch2vf I highly agree with you bro. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion but there is no way I would I put Freddie Gibbs, Lupe fiasco, MF doom and ghostface Killah over 2PAC and BIG💯that’s ridiculous😂😂😂
@24klogan862 жыл бұрын
@K PAC is a way better lyricist then what ppl give him credit for anybody that says he’s a mediocre lyricist just needs to listen to against all odds, me against the world and hearts of men real PAC fans know💯they are definitely not better lyricist than PAC and his influence outshines them by a far
@yeetomcheeto49982 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel-ch2vf i doubt youve listened to the gibbs catalog properly tbh
@Daniel-ch2vf2 жыл бұрын
@@yeetomcheeto4998 yeah and I doubt you’ve listened carefully to 2pac and Biggie if you put them on those spots
@HazeKasaki25 күн бұрын
The first take is madness
@matthewcarpenter45722 жыл бұрын
2:17 not now
@finnrogers44592 жыл бұрын
Bro please do this again. I'm sat here captivated, with a bowl of cereal, just agreeing with everything said.
@Benishim-s9ql Жыл бұрын
Black thought top 3. Best lyricist of all time
@shivanshdubby2 жыл бұрын
this video idea is firee please continue more
@pizzaburgerslime8392 жыл бұрын
this needs to be series tf
@Blackhooded2 жыл бұрын
Love this segment
@ChikistheToyChihuahua2 жыл бұрын
Good shiiit boiisss. big ups. big smoke cali love
@igobyxoxomusicunderaxlprks90002 жыл бұрын
I agree
@redism50672 жыл бұрын
idk what anthony was talking about when he said everybody who trys to copy thugs sound falls flat when lil keed can clone that sound basically perfectly on snake
@OhioKing_Z2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. I would be interested to hear your guys thoughts on why Biggie is top 5 in a video breakdown, if you haven't already. Personally, he does not meet my criteria because I believe there are at least 5 rappers with better lyricism and discogs. Although, when it comes to flow and impact it is hard to deny him. Curious on yall's thoughts on that. Reddit is a wild place with the takes so good idea for a video! lol
@rusty71042 жыл бұрын
would love to see more of these
@enricoromano67452 жыл бұрын
It would be great to see you guys do an « overrated/ over hated » chart with rappers
@BlaineJeffery2 жыл бұрын
Music is about creating an emotional connection. Any genre can do it, not every artist can.
@Chilly_CFC2 жыл бұрын
Great video again
@sshadyh2 жыл бұрын
that guy who said he hates rap clearly has barely heard many rap songs at all
@dooderman83612 жыл бұрын
Addressing the “hip hop fans are obsessed with tier lists” I think this is a stupid take, not because it’s extremely false but because it isn’t saying anything, like what are they even arguing? That music isn’t a competition, but that’s not necessarily what making tier lists is about, it’s more about providing your opinion and talking about what you like and asking the community to talk about what they like. Isn’t that how music conversation goes? People talking about their opinions on it? Idk it seems like a really stupid thing to say, like most fans from different genres like to hear what others think about music, it’s just conversation
@vessel38452 жыл бұрын
NFFRRRRRRR!!!
@Whodnl2 жыл бұрын
NFR For life
@wuspatterwukd91042 жыл бұрын
In my opinion no one should be questioning modern rap. While storytelling isn’t as prevalent as it used to be, the rap game has only gotten more and more diverse and experimental, and nowadays I feel that in general rappers focus on every part of the song, as opposed to just honing In on lyricism
@joshuagranander88852 жыл бұрын
here's a hot take for u guys. I hope someone replies because I would acc love to have a talk abt thus take. I think eazy e was the best member of nwa. ik cube wrote most of the songs but I think eazys rapping ability was off the charts and he was the face of the franchise yk. he has the most recognizable voice in hip hop history and is the godfather of ganster rap.
@chef75322 жыл бұрын
im not sure about the take on biggie,, you say kendrick is not at the end of his career but biggie literally dropped what 2 albums and unfortunatley passed so how does that merit being above kdot who i belive has put 4 classic albums all imo better than biggies
@Aro022 жыл бұрын
very valid point
@Br-yh7hy2 жыл бұрын
Biggie had more influence
@brodiestewart35923 ай бұрын
Valid
@RyanHeinz2 жыл бұрын
Worst realistic take was obviously Kanye’s lyricism lmao, he’s always been on top of production and lifting other artists
@nokulungagingxana97362 жыл бұрын
why is lil wayne not in there he has done so much for the industry
@insertname14522 жыл бұрын
1. Biggie 2. Nas 3. Jay 4. Pac 5. Kendrick 6. Kanye 7. 3K 8. Cube 9. Dre 10. Eazy
@hikmatmohammadi2 жыл бұрын
Man I love this 😂
@constantinospoyiatzis12102 жыл бұрын
Luca is saying that it's too early to have Kendrick as no.1 when Tupac's and Biggie's careers weren't even a decade long...
@NFRPodcast2 жыл бұрын
We’ve seen their albums age as classics over decades and their impact on the genre is set in stone! Kendrick will only move up all-time lists as time goes on🙏
@victorianrat2 жыл бұрын
I think many people who don‘t feel modern rap fits the standards of old hip hop, when you think of old hip hop you think of Tupac and Biggie and Jay Z. Now you may think of mainstream rappers or pop rap such as Lil Mosey or Lil Baby, etc. instead of thinking about Kendrick, Cole, JID, Denzel, Saba, etc. These takes are just not educated.
@GV_777YT2 жыл бұрын
whats a Young Thug Album is best to get in to for a total beginner?
@OhThatsLo2 жыл бұрын
Slime season, Slime season 2, Rich gang Tha tour part: 1, and Barter 6 in that order!!!!! 🫡
@pushat44372 жыл бұрын
punk and so much fun for beginer and barter 6 obvious;y then jeffery then beautiful thugger girl and them all the slme series
@Kaizerchief112 жыл бұрын
Listen to off the grid from Donda. He’s still got it in terms of rapping ability
@KushBrahh2 жыл бұрын
7:30 he’s taking about the moneybag yo’s and the key glocks of hip hop. That person probably heard one song by dababy and said “this how all hiphop sounds fuck this” you gotta actually dig and find the right artist for you. I feel anybody can enjoy hip hop if they find the right artist/s
@alem24432 жыл бұрын
thug is the best vocalist
@igobyxoxomusicunderaxlprks90002 жыл бұрын
my brother Young Kayo's new albums is phenomenal
@i.turn.tables64552 жыл бұрын
You guys should do more of these. Kind of like a Fantano Let’s Argue
@samuelwager2181 Жыл бұрын
5:50 I agreed with this take… when I was a 10 year old because I was raised on older music like Motown, also because I was a stupid god damn 10 year old.