Reacting To My Subscribers K-POP Opinions cuz HANNI's Gonna Lose Her VISA.

[@RonaldMarvinHottie]

Timestamps :( 0:00 'NewJeans Hanni is so done' ):( 2:14 'Katseye Colorism and Racism of members Lara and Manon' ):( 3:58 'Yuna doesnt fit ILLITS concept (this is outrageous y r people saying shes old? SHES 20 WHY DO U WANT A 14 YEAR OLD TO DEBUT ARE YOUR KIDDING!? WHY ARE WE NORMALIZING THIS '):( 5:30 'Im worried about KOL' ):( 6:26 'Yeji is a better vocalist' ):( 7:29 'Its not just Taemins youtube channel that got hacked.' ):( 9:22 'Lee Chaeyeon is hurt' ):( End)

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

1: She's still under ADOR/HYBE whether people like it or not. ADOR has literally confirmed this by saying that they will deal with Hanni's visa. Bunnies need to stop claiming that NEWJEANS are independent artists now.

[@vixxexo6855]

New Jeans should be grateful for Ador for sticking up for them despite the way they threw tantrums.

[@sakuradesu_]

1: She's not, please go focus on your groups and let us support Hanni, Danielle,Minji,Kitty Kang and Hyein. We bunnies would be thankful, if you don't involve yourself with something you have no reason to hate

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

​@@sakuradesu_Are you saying that NEWJEANS aren't under HYBE/ADOR anymore?

[@jetally]

​@@sakuradesu_ You seem like a nice person to defend your idols just beware that not everyone is worthy or deserving of your attention and support.

[@custardiii]

@@sakuradesu_lol open ur eyes to the real world its not all sunshine and rainbows. girlies are being a mess and you people (public opinion) are the only thing keeping them afloat

[@shanelliott8616]

What I don't get is why bunnies think it's okay for NewJeans to say they left Ador but is okay with them still using Ador staffs

[@purplearmy09]

I don’t see how bunnies can defend them at this point, hanni is breaking the law for gods sake

[@bimotok757]

New Jeans fandom is the most stup1d fandom in the world.

[@iloveNANAx]

​@@bimotok757fr

[@albedokreide]

newjeans tryings to be independent is so funny when hanni has work visa issues and is holding onto ador for a lifeline bc without that visa she cant get a job in korea 😭😭

[@cattosakamotto]

Its even harder because she's working as an entertainer in south korea. Her visa is different from other "ordinary" immigrant workers who works in corporations, factories & stores. She's really gonna need to hold onto ADOR because it can get worse for her.

[@bqanto]

That visa is only valid to work with Ador, if she wants to change her label she has to get another visa.

[@troll1321]

​@@cattosakamottoShe has worked in Korea long enough and has made enough money that she can potentially get a Long term Resident Visa which will allow her to work without Ador's Sponsorship. It is only a matter if she has time or if she has already filed the necessary paperwork beforehand.

[@damiii-l1i]

​@@troll1321And you think that will happen at the snap of her fingers? It will not be easy for her to change visa status without ADOR's signature on necessary documents.

[@troll1321]

@@damiii-l1i The Visa Status expires upon the termination of the contract or the moment she "quits her job". Ador does not need to sign anything. It is not a breach of contract for Hanni to get a different visa either. Idk if you are not informed or not but people with working visas sponsored by their companies do this all the time. The moment you quit, that visa becomes null. Their optipns are either to do a new visa interview while still on their current job or file for a job searching visa.

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

I WAS WAITING FOR YOUR OPINION ON HANNI'S VISA TY

[@cynthiawilson5602]

Right, for anyone who wants a recap of the Hanni ignoring a situation that does not make sense, here are points you can ask New Jeans fans who still believe Hanni to answer then. A recap someone did [For an alleged incident that Hanni literally testified at the Korean National Assembly over, it's crazy how many times the story has changed. Hanni raised the issue back in June, and MHJ sent an email to Belift complaining of a "failure to greet". They didn't specify a date because Hanni didn't remember when it happened. Belift and HYBE HR immediately scoured the CCTV footage and found one single instance when ILLit and Hanni were in the same location at the same time. The CCTV footage proved that ILLit greeted Hanni with a 90 degree bow. The incident happened on May 27. The story then changed and Hanni insisted, as she does now, that the issue wasn't a lack of greeting, it was ILLit's manager saying "ignore [her]". Pronouns are omitted in Korean, the meaning could have been something like "ignore it, let it be". HYBE trains all employees to refer to everyone with polite speech using "-ssi" which means the manager wouldn't have referred to a person the way Hanni claims. Ofc, Hanni changed her story in August/September, and Korean law says that CCTV footage can only be stored for 30 days. Hanni and MHJ naturally knew this because they'd been involved in looking at CCTV footage back in June.] -Continued evidence [Hanni then claimed that when she visited a security staff person to review the available footage, the staff person said HYBE had deleted the footage. She told the National Assembly of Korea that she had an audio recording, but has never produced it. For all we know, her recording might just be the security guy saying that the footage is gone because HYBE followed the law and deleted the nonrelevant footage after 30 days. When Hanni testified at the NA, she said the incident happened on May 28, a date that ILLit was in Japan. It would be weird of her to misspeak because she was reading from written testimony but I mean whatever, nothing about this has been consistent. At the NA, Hanni also demonstrated exactly how poor her grasp of the Korean language is. She repeatedly failed to understand what the legislators tried to ask her. Apparently she only understands people she works with frequently and has trouble understanding other people. So who knows if she even heard the manager correctly, if the incident even happened? She has a history of mishearing people and claiming ill intent when nothing of the kind happened. For example, she claimed the Seventeen maliciously ridiculed her when she actually misheard them. Seventeen clarified the matter on a livestream. Little did we know she'd be involved in a similar incident 6 months later and drag the highest legislative body of South Korea into it, fake sobbing into a tissue, in between glaring daggers at her new CEO and pretending not to know her name.]

[@justvibing2171]

Good explanation

[@LouellaBelle]

I always shake my head when I see "Yunah was done dirty", like she doesn't do perfectly well in a cute concept. Just because she is suited for another concept doesn't mean she doesn't fit the current concept. She can pull lit off just like the rest of them. People are just obsessed with the hard confidence that Yunah has perfected. Obviously Illit's concept will grow as they grow and she'll have her stunning moment when they are old enough to do tougher concepts, but in the meantime she is doing great.

[@SSSatelliteTwice]

EXACTLY! as much as i would love to see her in a badass/slightly mature concept, she does fine in illits concept and stands out just as much as the other members, people act like shes 32 in a group of 12 year olds singing tick tack and its getting out of hand.

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

4: People do realise that KISS OF LIFE ALSO plays apart in the creative team too? They have ideas and they put forward them. The creative team + the company keeps their ideas in mind. As a KISSY, I feel like the girls will be fine. They're talented and they don't seem to rely on their creative director.

[@brittanyjones2902]

it doesn't matter how big you are. You better have that visa

[@POTATO-XD-0]

I think HYBE knew this is gonna come out. that's why they didn't take immediate action for the Instagram account. now nj will have to take the first action I guess. work under adore or file a law suit

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

3: Old? She’s 20, how’s she old? That’s honestly wild. I used to think ILLIT’s concept wasn’t gonna suit her at all, but after their first comeback, she completely turned it around. She’s seriously found a way to fit into both sides of the concept-mixing that edgy vibe with her natural style. It’s impressive how well she’s made it her own, blending both worlds seamlessly. It's like she's always been able to handle both sides, and now it's clear she was just waiting for the right moment to show it.

[@elesyeen]

1. Yet people are saying that new jeans know what they're doing , girls can't even respond to press and their fans are calling them savage for that .

[@jetally]

The only thing /savage/ about them is that they are uneducated, disloyal liars whom mislead their fans and the media.

[@florence9702]

​@@jetally😂😂😂

[@bimotok757]

Ador prepared the documents for Hanni's visa. It is up to Hanni for go to Ador to get the documents. But if Hanni go to Ador, it mean she admit that the contract still valid. New Jeans fandom is the most stup1d fandom in the world.

[@AE4EVER-queens]

3: Yunah is a 04 liner which she’s 20, she’s still young but I don’t understand why some people say that she’s old, she’s 20! She’s not 40, some people need to stop calling her old, and I agree that the cutesy concept doesn’t fits her that much but she’s still doing her best

[@yomarysanchez1808]

😅 after Nj throws ador under the bus now imagine hani has to accept ador offer so she can still work in korea. How the tables have turned.

[@Gaogaog]

People need to accept that katseye is a 6 member group hence making a choreo for groups having even no. of members make it difficulf if members are more than 4 coz camera focuses on the member sharing and if members are lined up on a line it looks odd.

[@YTpsychMyths2]

I think Yunah will be utilized even more when Illit’s lore is fleshed out. The concept has a wide range of places they can take it so for a dark concept she’ll shine. (kinda ironic phase lol)

[@pinkstress]

Literally half of the members of illit are the same age why are they attaching this girl 😂

[@yoursnatchedwig2856]

The other half are younger and more mature then them crazy

[@sanazamir8341]

Frr like leave yunah alone

[@A.T837]

1. Hanni is literally playing with fire and needs to stop before things get out of hand. 2. The Katseye situation is so stupid to me I'm not even a fan but when watching them perform I have never thought that there's been favouritism rather that their choreographer just chooses to put a member behind the others in their songs. 3. This Yunah situation has remained since Illit's debut, and people need to mature. If other celebrities can do it, then no doubt Yunah can, too. As you mentioned, Treasures Jihoon is able to execute both dark and new ideas, and Yunah certainly can as well it's the fans who choose to think otherwise

[@Loof-o3t]

Hanni has no choice she has to signs her visa with Ador otherwise it's goodbye Korea and we'll have to watch her group collapse from Australia

[@jelisareid7107]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@crablovesu]

1. OH LMFAO huh???? I didn’t even think of that. I don’t think ANYONE thought of that until it hit them. Look, I never stanned NJ but they have potential, even a few bangers in their discography ngl. But this just proves that they really got ahead of themselves, which is sad. Dunno how they’re gonna get out of this. (my first time commenting here woohoo 🎉 I’m excited to do so more often now that I came out of my shell 😈😂)

[@crablovesu]

I can imagine them being lucky enough to just go on a break until Hanni’s got her visa back (dunno how long that takes but realistically definitely a few months, no?) or fr this will end veryyyy badly for them. Which… Eh. It’s sad but come on.

[@Xile179]

Im tired of all these people complaining about illits cute concept. Just go listen to all the other 1000 generic girl crush groups and leave illit alone

[@sanazamir8341]

Frr like yeah I get it if people think they would suit girl crush concept more but rn they have cute concept just enjoy that or just don't listen

[@cynthiawilson5602]

New Jeans wants to leave without paying the penalties, but try explaining that to New Jeans fans, especially on X/Twitter. It feels like the fandom does not understand what an idol contract is, and just because I didn't personally read it does not mean I lack basic common sense on contracts. But apparently, that is an excuse they use every single time. Every idol contract is different, but the basic structure is there for an employer-to-employee contract.

[@cuuldurach1609]

im not doubting your knowledge, but, common sense has got nothing to do with the terms, conditions and clauses of a contract.

[@cuuldurach1609]

you are also mistaking standard employer/employee contracts to that of idols, to which the National assembly has explicitly stated, "idols are not workers"

[@cynthiawilson5602]

@@cuuldurach1609 New Jeans fans really think the contract has been terminated just because the group said so. When someone says they are not legally, they bring up how Hybe and Ador are doing nothing. So now they are doing something fans are upset and still in denial?

[@cuuldurach1609]

@cynthiawilson5602 i am not referring to NJ and the Ador contract specifically, i was making a statement of fact about common sense relativity to contracts in general.

[@cynthiawilson5602]

@@cuuldurach1609 Idols are not workers, but doesn't basic common sense still apply? So, doesn't an employer (the company) have a contract with the employee (the idol they recruited)? What are you trying to say? I know they are not workers under South Korean laws, but fans struggle to understand or don't look up the definition of a contract. Whether it is an Idol's or a worker's contract, it is still legally binding until the court decides otherwise.

[@Gojo_ki_pooookie]

1. Yet Ador is already preparing to renew her visa. Which means her contract isnt terminated, which means she is still under ador, which means the fans have been f00led. Hanni is stvck badly😭✋🏻

[@m.z1256]

i wonder how they will react

[@jetally]

LoL zombie bunnies dgaf they will justify in their head some bs...oh Hanni Scam is so cool she quit her job and made them get her visa hahaha she's so independant and SaVaGe 🙄😒🤮 Meanwhile there's some workers in Korea who won't have it so easy to get a visa and have to leave but they aren't Hanni Scam the famous idol so eff them.

[@Gojo-ki-poookie]

​@@m.z1256 fans would blame ador/hybe obviously

[@damiii-l1i]

Ador doing that for her is only going to help their case. MHJ/NJ strategy is weak and relies too much on public opinion and less on legalities. The moment the court cases start happening, you will see them try to mediate.

[@m.z1256]

@@damiii-l1i exactly

[@safz15]

UNPOPULAR OPINION: Year end music show & festivals are becoming INKIGAYO 2.0, other than groups like Ive, Lesserafim, Enhypen.... groups perform the same 2-3 song overpromoted songs of the year with music show outfits😬😬 Like give us some remixes, perform some unpromoted hit bside/older hit song, i started skipping most of the performances coz mostly its music show worthy performances & live singing is absent

[@trishabala9549]

I agree with this opinion.

[@cattosakamotto]

EXACTLY!!!! what more on dec 25! They give us the same performance routine, the "remix" the unessecary dancebreaks & unessecary autotunes & lipsyncing. The change they will give is stage collaboration & a cover & its still NOT working!!! Its too boring. They need to give us a balnce of dancing & singing with balnce group synergy. They're doing a lot of unessecary stage stunts that just hinders the performance of these idols & the goddamn uncomfortable stage props & stage outfits. They always focus on the visuals of the idols more than the good & balanced performance.

[@winniejung]

what are you on about my friend from Korea attends these end of year events and she has no complaints, so you should be greatful

[@Hellokitty_391]

NJ gives me an ick now can't believe i used to defend them and mhj in the past ☠️

[@sadasdeath9]

Minors gives you an ick but not grown incel mens who hate nj?

[@marigam]

That’s crazy, how did you come to sanity? What made you change your mind?

[@sadasdeath9]

@@Hellokitty_391 nice try armpits we know who you are a hag thats threatened by minors 😭😭😭

[@Hellokitty_391]

@marigam i feel like mhj is so hurted when she did that conference pers (ykwim) and i dislike hybe too so yeah Plus i love nj songs too Until i realized they're not ok ☠️ and ppl still saying i'm a hybe aess kisser just bcz i don't like mhj 😭 like cmon now

[@cynerahpinklover8684]

⁠@@sadasdeath9 There is only 1 minor in Newjeans. And you’re putting words in their mouth, stop that. It’s not their fault grown men hate Newjeans nor is it their responsibility to address it. You can’t shield them behind that “minor” excuse.

[@emilyann4504]

I dont get how some of the fans were saying "hybe is now using her private life against her" or "typical evil corporate threatening with visa" or smtg like that. I'm not a lawyer or immigration expert but even i know to work in a foreign country and earn money there you need work visa. Her entertainment visa was from Ador, isn't it common sense for them to be making statement regarding the legality of one of their artist's permission to live and work in SK? Esp since she and her groupmates has stated that the contract has been unilaterally terminated and they will not pay fine at all. Also it's a bit ironic that the girls who made claims against Ador/Hybe without proof (so far), saying contract termination without going thru the legal proceedings, but still perform their old songs, and also having one of their member's visa still being paid and handled by Ador. This whole back and forth between these people is messy af, they need to sue one another and be done with it

[@bimotok757]

Ador prepared the documents for Hanni's visa. It is up to Hanni for go to Ador to get the documents. But if Hanni go to Ador, it mean she admit that the contract still valid.

[@koma7512]

2. Manon literally starts the choreo of Debut, what are people even yapping about? 😭

[@jasin1562]

Did they forget she was under a work visa or sum?💀

[@TheREALJUSTPRETTYALT]

OMG FINALLY SOMEONE WHO ISNT SAYING "YUNAH IS TOO OLD" SHE IS 20?? Like what- That isn't old. And yunah loves her concept herself. So haters better stop this

[@aoiumenokouji4172]

Hanni has to agree to some form of contract with her previous employers. ADOR saying the contract is still valid doesn't change the fact that Hanni openly declared TO THE KOREA GOVERNMENT WITH THAT PRESS RELEASE that she stopped working when the stipulation of her visa is that she WORKS WITH THE COMPANY THAT SPONSORED THE VISA (ADOR). ADOR can try all day to get Hanni that visa, but Hanni made a declaration to STOP THE CONTRACTED WORK THAT HER VISA WAS CREATED FOR. That's in direct violation of the visa. Opening of the IG account is ALSO in direct violation as she has not filed for an entertainment visa (Using her own income/she can't because the income was generated by ADOR) which would allow her to do independent activities to WORK. Work Visas are not a joke and you cannot job hop on them, or make a declaration you are not going to work for said job when the sole purpose of being in the country with that visa is to: work.

[@bqanto]

The visa office relies on documents, not verbal statements. Are you 14?

[@aoiumenokouji4172]

@bqanto tell me you never been to immigration out of status without telling me. If you LOUDLY declare you WON'T WORK, THE GOVERNMENT WILL RUN BACK YOUR STATEMENTS. Are you dumb or something?! Governments will even run down your phone and emails if you say you a tourist and take work to see if it was premeditated to enter deceptively. And its vice versa for work visas. If you got the Visa to gain entry and work somewhere else it's VOID. If you declare you wont work for the company listed on the Visa YOU GOTTA GO. Only way out is to interview but even then Hanni already laid out her intent PUBLICALY. YES THE GOVERNMENT CAB USE YOUR WORDS AGAINST YOU. EVEN IN A PRESS CONFERENCE. KEEP TF UP. and id she gets preferential treatment EVEN WORSE because people get deported FOR LESS

[@aoiumenokouji4172]

@bqanto like you can come in on a student visa and if you on twitter saying you skipping school YOU CAN GET DEPORTED DUMMY

[@cuuldurach1609]

@@JO-qn8gy what is the punishment for the Tampering crime? asking for a friend.

[@cuuldurach1609]

@@aoiumenokouji4172 Opening an IG account is a direct violation of what exactly? also asking for a friend.

[@withluvmia]

With how big her ego is, I wouldn’t be surprised if she would rather get deported than having ador help her with her visa. She would rather leave the country and re-apply her own visa in australia

[@sanazamir8341]

Frr

[@RekhaSharma-hh1sv]

4. they are kiss of life not jeanz who wouldnt survive without their creative director . they have their own identity and talent , not like jeanz who think they are nothing without their mommy mhj

[@Gojo_ki_pooookie]

3. Yunah might as well be called the one "balancing" the concept. She fits the cutesy concept as well.

[@kpop-spy]

OGM you're so right about her balancing the other members

[@Gojo_ki_pooookie]

​@@kpop-spy 🙌🏻

[@6chex]

Unfortunately this is a late inaccurate report. Ador already announced they are working on her renewal documents. When done, if she signs them, then that is proof of the viability of their contract.

[@RekhaSharma-hh1sv]

but dont they claim that they are free from contract?

[@einna1534]

​@@RekhaSharma-hh1sv that's only their claim, but legal professionals says otherwise

[@RekhaSharma-hh1sv]

@@einna1534 ik but its funny how those girls be yapping anything

[@bimotok757]

Ador prepared the documents for Hanni's visa. It is up to Hanni for go to Ador to get the documents. But if Hanni go to Ador, it mean she admit that the contract still valid.

[@TheLadyGrey]

I’m done with the NWJNs situation, what will be will be. Do I think the girls are digging themselves into a hole? Yup. But that’s a problem for them to deal with. Hanni’s contract is still valid, this is the facts, because unilaterally terminating isn’t the end of the story if ADOR pushes the matter. Which they did. NWJNS now have to prove where they broke the contract, which will either be taken to court or they’ll settle. In reality, the girls are most likely going to court. As such, ADOR is renewing her VISA because she’s still an ADOR artist. It’s that simple. Hanni is not illegal rn and she knows that, she’s still completing ADOR requirements for the year as are the girls. The photoshoot was put in place before they unilaterally terminated. On the topic of ILLIT, I get what people are saying, but I also think it’s rude to keep saying Yunah doesn’t fit the concept and HYBE’s evil when she said she likes the concept. And yes, groups are allowed to say when they don’t most of the time. We’ve seen plenty of them do it. Let a young girl be cute for god’s sake, and the insistence for her to do a more mature concept, even if it’s girl crush, is weird especially since it’s because you don’t like her acting cute. She said she liked it, that should be the end of it. Don’t try to say she’s lying just because it’s a concept you don’t like. What if she didn’t like the concepts she did in the survival show? What if the company made her do that? What then? She’s going through enough with the ILLIT hate train just shut up and listen to Tic Tac its a fun song

[@rosescrib]

This drama is just…wow

[@AimFlash2506]

0:16 U HAD ME DYING ON THE FLOOR 😂😂😂

[@MalKe-io8zr]

Wait I don’t get it

[@AimFlash2506]

@ basically they said mhj might have to join the girls if hanni leaves 😭😭😭

[@sunshyner8596]

Those disc herniations are not good, and especially for her being so young. She will have to train differently and become physically stronger in her core from now on if she wants longevity. These female idols should be training much like gymnasts do without the hypermobility component. They should also train like ball sports athletes in terms of agility and acceleration/deceleration.

[@FallforcupidD]

3. OH MY GOD YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS SINCE THEY DEBUT, WE HEARD YOU THE FIRST TIME! I agree so much, she's only 20 and has so much duality but they just bring that up so much whenever she's brought up. Like it feels so backhanded.

[@cynthiawilson5602]

It's just annoying when New Jeans stuff comes out when another Hybe group has a comeback or something it feels timed. Let's be real they will not produce Vcha’s KG level evidence because it might include when MHJ was CEO. And their whole thing is not to prove mistreatment because I guarantee if MHJ was CEO again, they would act like nothing had happened. If you really believe they are fighting for mistreatment, don't you think they would have done what KG did if it was so bad? Literally watch their recent performance. Everyone is saying they look sad or depressed to perform. Them getting involved just made it uncomfortable. If fans thought the whole ignoring was bad, now it feels worse. It just feels different from awards shows before. People are acting fake, so NJ doesn't go live or to the National Assembly, so ignoring them is a risk.

[@bqanto]

Who told you that KG has proof of what she says?

[@cynthiawilson5602]

@ The case has been made public in the US, so we will see the evidence when they go to court. The idol contract they signed is already public, so just wait. Then you can search it up. KG has already claimed she has evidence so we will see it in court. New Jeans' words are not enough proof of a contract termination, so many people are questioning it. Like I said, NJ will probably not reveal anything if it includes when MHJ was CEO. And their whole thing is not to prove mistreatment because I guarantee if MHJ was CEO again, they would act like nothing had happened.

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

7: Jeez that looks very bad! As someone who's been in a car accident 3 years ago, it was a whiplash accident, but I herniated my L5-S1 disk one summer. The sciatica that came with it? Absolute nightmare. I couldn’t even stand for a minute without needing to lie down and pop some pain meds. Physical therapy became my life. But don’t worry, it wasn’t that bad in the end. I’m fine now, just a bad memory from way back when. But here’s the thing-back pain, especially something like a herniated disk, is no joke. It’s often chronic and can mess with you long-term, so I really hope people, especially her company and those around her, aren’t underestimating the treatment, rest, and care needed. This isn’t something you can just brush off and keep pushing through. It could seriously impact her career, and she needs more than just a quick fix. I hope they’ve got a solid care plan in place for the long haul, not just short-term relief.

[@Gojo-ki-poookie]

This sounds so painful wth... Im glad u recovered

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

​@@Gojo-ki-poookieI'm glad I did but still hurts if I'm slouched or hunchback for too long. It's gonna creep up on me when I grow older and might be worse if I get pregnant one day

[@Gojo_ki_pooookie]

​@_JustArandomMultistan_:/ ill pray it gets easier for u...r u still getting physical therapy from time to time?

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

​@@Gojo_ki_pooookieNah. I finished it a AGES ago, and thankfully, everything’s been fine since then. I still do some occasional stretches to keep things in check, and have check ups here and there, but no ongoing therapy for me.

[@Gojo_ki_pooookie]

@_JustArandomMultistan_ oh i see. Heck, even a minor sprain in the ankle gets me loosing my absolute sh-t...maaan ur strong 😭❤️‍🩹

[@FallforcupidD]

4. I'm genuinely not worried that the momentum of the girls. I kinda excited to see what new concept they'll dl coming into 2025

[@Aelinash]

as someone with a herniated disc, shit hurts lol I had to take a 2 year break from dancing because I had to hit the gym and pilates to make my core stronger. It's not an easy thing to do, I hope she doesn't lose her love for dancing because I most certainly did.

[@kpopaddict3542]

One thing that is crossing my mind about Illit is that maybe as times goes on they will go through a little concept change from cute to more mature As a lot of groups that debuted with cute concept they change it to more mature 🙂

[@YTpsychMyths2]

Also KIOF is KILLING it rn especially in the US. They were in my city & got SO much love. They’re on the rise & I believe they’ll keep rising.

[@jasin1562]

Kiss Of Life often participate in crafting their songs and concept I swear they will be JUST fine💀

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

EXACTLY

[@g_i_n_d]

Do you know why their creative director left?

[@winniejung]

​@@g_i_n_dto work on a survival show

[@Bloom_Jiya]

Ador will watch NJ sink in their own ship

[@MsRainyStarzz]

Best case scenario, the newjeans' members will go back to ADOR bc of Hanni's visa. Worst case, They'll go back to their mother snake MHJ for backup

[@tonyn1628]

why are you responding to a KIOF hater and not a real fan? real Kiss of Life fans know it is KIOF and NOT KOL. Anyone using KOL is pretending to be a fan and just trying to throw shade at Kiss of Life.

[@PinkiePies_Pie]

Spelling error maybe😭

[@KandyRenee]

Or maybe there are casual fans who like them but don’t know their weird spelling. Usually stuff is abbreviated to the first letter of each word.. that doesn’t make them a “fake” fan.

[@cynthiawilson5602]

No one is asking why Hanni was there in the first place. New Jeans is on the 16th floor. ILLIT aren't on that floor, so why was she even there? What happened to Hanni in May or June, and why did she decide to report it in September? Someone said that according to the law, footage can only last up to 3 months. So what did you expect if they set someone up to get automatically deleted after a period of time?

[@damiii-l1i]

CCTV footage in Korea must be deleted within 30 days due to privacy laws. Hanni did report in June/July (I can't remember the exact month) and they checked the CCTV footage together with MHJ. The issue of omitted footage was only raised in August, way after the footage had been deleted. The one Belift saved was the one MHJ reviewed together with them. But you're right, there are so many things that don't add up with their story. Apparently, Illit wasn't even in Korea the day Hanni claimed the incident happened.

[@cynthiawilson5602]

@@damiii-l1i Ok, the law part I'm wrong, but see it doesn't make sense why Hanni was there. The deeper people think about it, the story does not even add up.

[@damiii-l1i]

​@cynthiawilson5602 Exactly. If she had provided more information, the story would have been more credible. Why was she waiting outside the makeup studio Illit entered when NJ had their glam room? Especially after Illit already greeted her. It also doesn't make sense for the manager to say "ignore her" after Illit already greeted Hanni, it would make more sense to say that before greeting. But I don't know. Even if Belift deleted the evidence, it's her word against theirs and I won't be surprised if the manager or Belift themselves end up suing her.

[@cynthiawilson5602]

@ In another video, someone commented that the Hanni Visa situation was messing with someone's life, but wasn't the manager's problem someone's life that Hanni brought to the internet? Someone did the same thing to her. Fans are saying it's petty it is. I don't know how people are hating on Hybe when Hanni was trying to get someone fired. And all of New Jeans want the CEO fired and MHJ back now news that Hanni might be getting deported and suddenly Hybe is cruel.

[@bqanto]

I think Hanni was there looking for a reason to report abuse. I think MHJ let the five girls loose around the building to provoke something that could be used in a possible termination lawsuit, because they had and have absolutely nothing. I think vandalizing the building by putting Aespa stickers on the walls was a provocation, hoping for a reprimand from Hybe, as well as an act of bullying the cleaning staff. I think that's why j-hope left for LA right after his discharge and came back the day after MHJ resigned. One of those girls could easily destroy a male group with a false accusation of dating, or even send one of them to jail with a false accusation of sexual assault.

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

Opinions on the KBS song/global festival?

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

2: The choreo formation really did no favors to whoever was stuck in the back 🖐️😭 I watched it and it felt awkward and distracting, like they weren’t even part of the group. For a debut, that’s such a strange choice, because, shouldn’t you be trying to showcase everyone equally? First impressions matter, and this just made it look like they didn’t think the person was worth highlighting. It’s not just unfair to the member; it drags down the whole performance.

[@SpeedyNessYT]

4:35 She did one dance with kol and everyone was like "she doesn't fit the cute concept." I always thought the people saying that were being cringe.

[@fatalposiie]

I don't think it was just that, it was from some of the survival show stages too, I believe.

[@Gojo_ki_pooookie]

2. Hmm if hybe was racist, wouldnt the racism start at the very moment lara and manon even came into hybe to debut? Idt it was intentional

[@R2Mw19]

Don’t forget HYBE/BIGHIT fought discrimination in the US courts and set a precedent, spoke about it at the UN. Not to say individuals aren’t but like you said it’s a generalization at best.

[@jetally]

Their stans will say racism even tho the idols aren't American or white/black. They will keep that card in their back pocket until they want to defend their idol or get better treatment or whatever. It's childish...I seriously thought that people who would tune into world music would be past COLOR and just see people as people, but no.

[@Gojo_ki_pooookie]

​@@R2Mw19exactly

[@Gojo_ki_pooookie]

​@@jetally right. Atp its less about the music and more about the other stuff. Fans pay so much attention to the surrounding topics that the music is left dangling in between. Just look at rosé. Her fans were more into the "mission: finding rosé's ex", that they forgot girlie released SONGS.

[@FallforcupidD]

A company can be racist but have the people they discriminate against under them. (Not saying hybe is) Racism doesn't just mean "Oh, you're not allowed here cause your race." It's not Black & white (pun intended) and has a lot of nuance to it. For example, there's a lot of Sinophobia in K-pop, specifically SM entertainment, but they still have Chinese groups/artists under them. It's like how a person can be a misogynist or Misandrist but still be dating a woman or man. They still harbor those views and thoughts. However, this person/people are beneficial to them in some way, shape of form. I hope that makes sense.

[@LuvKpopforlife]

04:02 Personally I think it's just the styling of Yunah that could fit ILLIT's concept more/not look so "old" to some because her hairstyle is mostly a very high ponytail unlike other members but when her hair is down it suits ILLIT's outfits alot more (personal opinion!)!

[@ithoughtiwascishet1316]

yeah, she fits in well when they actually dress her like the others. like sometimes on singing shows, everyone will be in cute cozy outfits and she's in a leather jacket.

[@FallforcupidD]

7. Insane, I genuinely hope BPM can really step up their security game. You literally have TAEMIN, THEE TAEMIN, under your label and you're letting slip ups like this continually happen. 8. I agree with you here, everything you said.

[@sooystcy]

manon and lara aren't the only members of color tho?

[@sunnybear178]

colorism is when amongst the group, the darker skinned members are not treated equally to the fairer skin ones. that has nothing to do with being a poc lol

[@sooystcy]

@ when did i bring up colorism lmao? im not stupid im just pointing out how lara and manon aren't the only poc, and yes they are very much treated equally lmao manon is very clearly the center of the group and gets treated as such and lara quite litearlly sings majority of katseye's songs, yall just wanna create problems so badddd

[@ithoughtiwascishet1316]

please share your opinion on young posse's cancelled christmas song. they posted that they were going to release the song "street carol" for christmas and one of the girls on the cover art had a speech bubble saying, verbatim, "santa clause is coming to hood." they took it down REAL quick.

[@jetally]

That whole group, name included is sus

[@chaaae-f1y]

2: I am semi active on eyekon twitter and let me tell you, it's not just that tweet. Tweets of similar nature get many tens of thousands of likes on the regular. There are barely times where these tweets with this engagment don't highlight Manon's race or make everything that happens (or doesn't happen) with her into something racist. At times it feels like Manon being the 'first black Kpop idol' (even though she's not) is making her more popular and getting her and the group more engagment than their music or anything else.

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

5: I'm sorry, but Yeji solo stans and Chaeryoung solo stans are absolutely sad. Why tf am I seeing those fans comparing the way they both look? One side calls Chaeryoung ugly, the other mocks Yeji for her disability (idek if she has one btw) but it's DISGUSTING. They both have solid vocals. I'm tired of these comparisons

[@cherry-mk8bp]

Yeji has a condition called “atopy” that causes hypersensitivity to allergens and she got osteomyelitis (a rare bone infection) & pneumonia when she was little bc of that condition :( it’s disgusting that ppl would talk bad about her like that

[@bimotok757]

Solid vocal? Who do not understand about vocal technique. Only Lia has good vocal technique. Chae below Lia, and Yeji below Chae in the vocal technique.

[@ProudOrbit217]

5:55 For those of you worried about KOL, Same thing happened to Loona back in Spring of 2019, even though their shift in direction was big and debateable, they still did well and continued to succeed. An Artist can’t grow if they can’t make/ adapt to changes that were in/ or not in their control. They will be okay :)

[@frankverisco4722]

opinion 2: If the company was racist they wouldnt put them in the group in the first place.

[@sakuradesu_]

2: The company wants money and will do anything for that

[@Gojo_ki_pooookie]

​@@sakuradesu_ then the company would also do anything to keep fans' satisfied since they r the ones generating them the money

[@RekhaSharma-hh1sv]

@@sakuradesu_ lol judging a company on basis of 30sec clip instead of full mv tells a lot about people

[@bimotok757]

@@RekhaSharma-hh1sv Agree. In first place they hate the company.

[@mooncookie012]

Everyone worried about kiof, or thinking things are going to change a lot. are definitely not kissys, and know nothing about kiof. The girls have been heavily involved in their concept, and Belle helps a lot with the songs too.

[@IoveIie]

the girls are very involved in production and writing so i trust them!!

[@Karinaesmia-2sdk]

2. Katseye is not kpop

[@pieistasty]

4. I agree,also doesn't belle literally produce and write most of their songs,also I watched their recordings videos, and the producers literally told belle to do whatever she wants

[@Ellie-El]

can't wait for your opinions on the kbs gayo performances

[@Bonboni663]

Just because kiof lost their creative director they won't just plop into nugudom like that and I feel like the next album they release will do well just like Midas touch, sticky, and lose yourself have done

[@cattosakamotto]

Kiof actually has the easiest ideas to work with. They really have that popular ideas for styling, music genre & artistic directions. They don't really ask for anything complicated since their music since debut proved it, they're tied to bringing back the old rnb. The typical ideas for the 90's to early 2000's. They literally can hire another creative director easily. They can easily hire a black creative director if they like since their whole image is built off of black music & imagery (styling). Very easy for them to get it, they also have the resources for it.

[@MalaquiasPatricia]

You're doing a fantastic job! Could you help me with something unrelated: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How should I go about transferring them to Binance?

[@Loadingcherries]

8:49 who is this solo?

[@kpop-spy]

She's a dancer, here's a channel with her fancams: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3K3dKF3as6LqKssi=0PJ0FOWtbgNIv7ud

[@Bloom_Jiya]

5: Why do ppl who know nothing about singing speak like they know a thing or two 💀. These creatures scare me

[@TheMacdod]

RIP NWJS

[@sanazamir8341]

1. They literally ruined themselves they are stuck with ador

[@ZareSamo-cn8pr]

Yes trash stay with trash😂😂😂😂

[@Xoonie_oo]

Guys i just realised that when in "Cookie: MV Danielle sing "Keep looking at my cookie" her pirvate part highlights...

[@Octa9on-s4n]

Omg why are ppl still saying this. Stop fishing for likes, its been cleared up. Hyein's arm was in the light too.

[@randomuser-nt9if]

@@Octa9on-s4n because its an awful song with degreading message about females parts and who allowed the song to be a thing? mhj. if ppl dont bring it up then it gets brushed under the rug thats how criminals get away with shit too.

[@randomuser-nt9if]

i hate that song ik theres others alike it that are no better but come on theyre not talking about cookies in a jar like elvis was in one of his songs

[@kanohane]

1. 10:33 That is literally society's fault, not the industry...most men don't want a buff woman....the fact that guys can workout out or be thin and women don't care is not anyone's fault. Welcome to nature.... 2. That Katseye documentary did make Manon a victim....whoever produced that, needs to not do that sh.t ever again... especially not right after a group debuts, they legit set them up for the antis/haters.

[@hollyatwtverbotene]

I have a question/suggestion. And please ignore me if you don't like it! I watched all of you videos and there's no denying that you are very knowledgeable about kpop. You know about a lot of groups, idols and companies. I would find it very interesting to learn about things that happend in kpop history, things that were a big deal in the past but if you weren't part of the kpop world back than you wouldn't know about it. For example I just came across a poll about worst kpop year and 2024 was winnings but all the comments were about 2019 and how new kpoppies who think 2024 is bad are lucky they weren't around back then. And I had no idea what they were talking about. I mean I was a bts fan in 2019 but didn't get in the kpop world until covid and we had time to do so. No i'm really wondering what happened in 2019 that was so traumatising for fans, seeing as some people say there where more that 10 traumatising things happening. And there must be a lot more that happened in the last 10/15 years that we maybe don't now about but maybe should if we want to be a part of the kpop world.

[@maliam_]

They might be refering to Sulli and Goo Hara

[@hollyatwtverbotene]

@maliam_ yes that was one of the things, the whole burning sun scandal but they also had 10 other things that happened. something about a drug scandel and a mental health scandel and disbandment etc.

[@randomuser-nt9if]

chaeyeon shouldve debuted in itzy did anyone see her pd48 audition? she was excellent in both singing and dancing live not hating chaeryeong however its spelt but the difference in those sisters confidence says a lot. chaeryeong seems a bit less confident and uses yuna a lot to boost her own whereas chaeyeon seemed to have much potential but got slept on by jype. its probably best some siblings dont become idols because theyll inly see each other as competition and with the shit coming about some agencies nowadays yeah in a way its a good thing to not be an idol at all.

[@Sherluck93]

8:02 What's with all the hair flipping and splits? That's not dancing anymore... That's sports! Who are they? It looks so messy, the arm movements as well, so much effort... What are they trying to tell us?

[@sindhuraju4327]

That's not New Jeans.

[@Sherluck93]

@sindhuraju4327 Do you know who it is? I didn't ask who it's not.

[@H0LIIWUD]

OK U ATE THESE UP THANK YOU FOR SAYING WHAT EVERYONE IS AFRAID TO

[@ærina.æ]

Wait… What happened to BadVillian???

[@randomsheep1165]

Your malware explanation was fascinating

[@AngelinaA1824]

Amazing new video about hanni!! Thanks for sharing. ❤

[@kpop-spy]

Glad you liked it! 🥰

[@jelisareid7107]

Not suprising if she refused ador help and leave sk😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@sadasdeath9]

Why are you defending incel men against a minor?? Does it amuse you? Are you a misogynist hag ?

[@queen0294]

​@@sadasdeath9 You commented several times with the same arguments.. is being in your 20s considered a minor?? Yes Ador is not the best ent. company in the world but NJ are wrong this time just amid it, that's not how the contracts works. It's not about the girls feelings it's about investment and money.

[@ruthfischer7615]

@@sadasdeath9 1. There is no proof that those are "incel" men. The new ADOR CEO btw is a woman. 2. Min hates feminists and helped cover up a s* harassment case and that interference is now going to court Being female does not mean you are right. The accused manager of the "not greeting" is female btw, too. In fact the girls are possible the most spoiled Idols in Idols history - from immideate high earnings, to a luxury dorm they designed, highest label floor, their own app, the constant long breaks after promotions, the individual advertising contracts since debut, their own make-up room etc.

[@imabratlol7967]

​@@sadasdeath9 incel men? Are you talking about pedokkies?

[@yourname4531]

​@sadasdeath9 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZbXoKOObc6Sq5osi=hJaItJTsmyxSk33I You should see what the lawyers think about your favs. They're not victims, just not smart.

[@theavacadoturtle]

If anybody doesn't want newjeans to back in tie with ador ,be ready to say bye bye to hanni 😅

[@FallforcupidD]

2. While your opinion is valid but please don't undermine racism or colorism simply because you may not experience it. K-pop fans do that all the time and many are in the comments. Also representation is important and there's nothing wrong with supporters of Manon and Lara admiring them and liking that there's people who look like them or of same ethnicity in the mainstream. However I do agree that we should NOT reduce them to that, but recognize their talent, skills and hardwork first of all.

[@RekhaSharma-hh1sv]

they are not kpop

[@FallforcupidD]

​@@RekhaSharma-hh1sv True but they're no doubt apart of the K-pop industry/ space.

[@RekhaSharma-hh1sv]

@@FallforcupidD but this particular case has nothing such as racism . people shouldn't form a judgement from a 30sec clip

[@sanyk-t6c]

She's black person.

[@FallforcupidD]

@RekhaSharma-hh1sv That was not the point, I was asking for the creator of the video and others not to undermine or minimize racism or colorism cause they don't understand it. The first thing I said is that her opinion is valid. I don't really get your point. People shape judgment, good or bad, that's just life, even off a 30-second clip.

[@Gojo_ki_pooookie]

7. It all comes down to these unrealistic beauty standards and how people sometimes forgot idols r humans. Hence, any idol who reaches their breaking point, catches them by surprise since they're so caught up in what is shown on the surface.

[@ender4384]

7:45 wasnt even just kpop groups channels getting hacked by that company, both someone i watch and someone my dad watches got hacked by them, and we watch completely different topics both accounts got their channels back with help from yt eventually but it took a couple days

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

6: NOOO TAEMINS VIDEOS ARE GONE AREN'T THEY?!!! 🥺

[@Xiwang希望]

Amazing video sis

[@chrisprettychu4]

Wow... now that's some drama 😅 by the way, i really love ur videos ❤❤

[@Cryforme-]

5. Yeji is indeed a much better vocalist than Chaeryoung- Even Yuna & Ryujin are better idk why people think Chaer is better just bcz she did highnotes when those highnotes were strained & she got the highnotes bc JYP is pushing her unnecessarily ever since Loco/Sneakers

[@Loof-o3t]

yuna is clearly not better than chae she is the weakest of the group I would put yuna 5th and chae 4

[@NiNi-di6ne]

Agreed

[@sanazamir8341]

Yeah chae is weaker then yeji but definetly not weaker then yuna and ryujin

[@Cryforme-]

​@@Loof-o3t Yuna is more relaxed

[@Sherluck93]

Yunah is fabulous! 🎉 🥰 Just wait...

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

8:29 what group is this?

[@elesyeen]

It's not a k-pop group but they came in women's street fighter they're called mannequeen

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

​@@elesyeenAlr tyy

[@cattosakamotto]

Kiss of life can easily hire another creative director. They are't aespa or nmixx who requires a meticulous planning from the concept, story, genre to music production. They literally have the trademark of what existed before. Just listen to their music since debut, literally the easiest to copy starting from rnb, hiphop, ballad, alternative rnb etc. jyst like how black artists did. They literally play within the easiest lines when it comes to their artistry. Styling? Easy, music writing? Easy, composers? Easy, producers? Choreographers? Easy & directors? Easy. They can even hire foreigners as their creative designers, especially black people, they are the masters of the music craft. They can easily hire another creative director, they will do just fine.

[@Amandine___]

Kpop Spy could you also review Sky Walking by Miyeon please?

[@frankverisco4722]

opinion 4: Chae is a better singer than Yeji. Yuna is a better rapper than Ryujin.

[@lilyfiee]

Not really...

[@nanditahalder7200]

Agree with yuna and Ryujin but chae is definitely not a better vocalist than yeji , ABSOLUTELY NOT

[@bimotok757]

@@nanditahalder7200 Chae is better. You can watch Yeji in Lee Mujin Service that she admitted her weakness is her vocal. Her vocal technique slightly below average in kpop.

[@sanazamir8341]

Agree with the rapping part but umm not sure about the vocals

[@nanditahalder7200]

@@bimotok757 yes she admitted her weakness and that doesn't mean Chae is a better vocalist

[@Loey1309]

Y'all minds are rotten

[@GioFrancoYoutube]

Why does every gg have a problem???

[@ruthfischer7615]

they don't. They have haters and some labels pay for blackmarketing against them - because charting and awards are a constant competition multiple times a week it works to not only uplift your artist but also hurting their "rivals".

[@MyDaylight]

The argument can be made for racism/colorism, but everyone needs to cool it with the member in the back. They’re an even number group, that’s what SHOULD happen. I’ve been a comp. dancer for ~10 years, and I have never competed against a team without a proper center in formations. It makes the formation look cleaner, it gives a point focus (that way you can hide your weaker dancers in the back), and it prevent the even number problem of everything looking off centered. Whether you like it or not, if you’re an even number group, someone’s going to need to be hidden, or the choreography isn’t ever really going to look right.

[@jetally]

They just don't want to admit Manon is the weak one due to her own actions. The group benefits with this formation by having a spot in the back which members shuffle through..prime place to fix mic or hair or hide the shitty dancer who doesn't show up for rehearsal. They need to stop calling out the choreographer because he is good and their performance director is literally Son Sung Daek a legend. They are lucky to have both of them guiding their dance and if anyone watched MAMA they would see how well that performance went to know these complaining ass fans are full of shit.

[@KandyRenee]

That’s fine but when several formation switches happen and it’s the same member staying right where they were in the back, people are gonna notice and it’s gonna be a problem. Someone else could’ve been hidden.. esp when Manon slays the choreo so “weakest member in the back” doesn’t really apply here. I feel like the people suggesting otherwise are being disingenuous

[@MyDaylight]

I mean I disagree. I’ve found her to be the weakest member in terms of technical skill. She has the messiest moves, and she often lacks a level of polish that I assume comes from the poor work ethic we saw in the documentary. Lara is a different story, I assume her being put in the back is due to a level of colorism, but Manon I understand much more. If she improves her dance skills and stage presence, that’s fine, but I don’t think she deserves nearly as much as people like to claim, especially when most of her “slaying the choreography” is mostly due to her having good body proportions and looking pretty.

[@KandyRenee]

@ that’s like agreeing Jisoo should’ve been hidden in the back of BP bc it’s “an even number” and she’s clearly the weakest member. No. The correct way to have a group is give everyone room to shine, not shove them in the back. And my point with Manon being she doesn’t stand out dramatically from the other girls when doing the choreography to justify rarely switching her out from a covered position. Not just in the back, completely covered. Acting like people are wrong for side eying that treatment is… eyebrow raising.

[@ducky3490]

yall are so dramatic about the new jeans situation. saying they backstabbed ador is absolutely bullshit

[@imnot_samyyy]

well really no one actually said that but logically they did they breached their contract