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[@jiraffe9600]

Colorado is a state, and Denver is a city in it.

[@Taizu314]

Yes it is. It’s the Colorado state capital and not a bad place to be born.

[@grahamparks1645]

Or rather it is the primary city of Colorado the others aren’t world class international airport hubs

[@jariemonah]

5:15 I like how Lav is trying to calculate 80% of the US population when the video already mentioned that it's 260 million like a few seconds before he paused

[@79BlackRose]

Yeah, he doesn't even listen a lot of the time lol.

[@Kell12UK]

I was like "Dude, he literally just said it."

[@MrTommygunz420]

17:12- the Appalachian mountains are also geographically a lot older, and more weathering and erosion have made them more rounded off by comparison with the West.

[@amandadeloff4278]

This version of the mountains are half a billion years old. Older than dinosaurs and may have been taller than the Himalayas. Dinosaurs walked around on these mountains. Craziness!

[@LadyOfSummer]

Not to mention, the Appalachian range is just part of one larger range that includes the Scottish Highlands.

[@sortaamy3003]

What's wild about the Sahara is that, once upon a time, it was green and lush. And once, it was completely under water. Fossils of sea life can be found in the middle of one of the harshest dry deserts we know of.

[@jonadabtheunsightly]

Fossils of sea life can be found absolutely everywhere on the planet, including Mount Everest. Well, it's very hard to find them on most of Antarctica, because they're buried under miles of ice, but that's a logistical issue; they're *there* even though you can't easily get to them.

[@jariemonah]

Yeah, the famous arch red rock formations in Utah's deserts were created by water erosion. Many landforms were created by water or glaciers.

[@PatricenotPatrick]

That’s also the biggest difference with west and east Texas. The west is dry. Here in Houston it can rain for days on end and floods happen a lot.

[@SWLinPHX]

I'm in Phoenix. Competing with Nevada & California over the Colorado River is a serious issue. Lake Powell and Lake Mead have both reached unprecedented lows, with a significant visible white ring around their perimeters akin to a bathtub where the water once reached. I'm sorry, but considering the severity and knowledge of this going way back, we simply are doing way too little, much too late.

[@O-sa-car]

California should worry less about electric cars and focus on improving desalination technology

[@emeraldcity_]

@@O-sa-car unfortunately, California has water rights to the Colorado river. Arizona and Nevada need to figure out what they will do when it runs dry

[@morganlblaney]

Didn’t realize how much I watched your videos until these past two weeks and i felt deprived! Hahaha glad you’re back, hopefully you had a good vacation

[@ks4isu]

Glad to have you back, Mr. Thurston!

[@Fridge56Vet]

You're back! Hope your trip went well!

[@jariemonah]

12:35 Amarillo to Oklahoma City is 250 miles, so yes these distances are more than 100 miles

[@guyinreallife6035]

Grew up in central Oregon, its amazing to have just vast swaths of land to yourself, we truely have an amazing country

[@KalEL224]

You literally learned nothing from this video did you?

[@guyinreallife6035]

@@KalEL224 sorry? what was I supposed to learn? that the desert is a desert? yeah, I was aware of that, I grew up with less than 12" annual rain fall and 15% humidity. its still nice looking out over the Alvord Desert from Steins Mountain and not seeing anyone for miles, or hiking and camping for days in the Bruneau canyon lands and not seeing more than a hand full of people. so...what are you on about?

[@KalEL224]

@@guyinreallife6035 thank you for proving my point. The fact that the areas you like so much were improperly settled, that the fact that people aren’t supposed to be living there. I know your type though good luck with that nonsense.

[@guyinreallife6035]

@@KalEL224 k... look, I have a soft spot for the mentally ill, i sincerely hope you get the help you need, maybe start by getting off the internet for a while, i know the outside world is scary and all, but grass is your friend. I believe in you champ!

[@Hibbs4Prez]

They are just so proud of living in that vast land with only people who look like them whose homes are spread out ten miles apart. They see it as representing "freedom" but they don't produce anything that keeps the country thriving or free. And all that time alone and isolated makes them mistrustful of a government whose actions and decisions in the past has made it possible for them to sustain livelihood in their waste land area in the first place. So much time on their hands and so limited interaction with other folks outside their demographic bubble causes them to be susceptible to all sorts of conspiracies and distrustful of "others" from larger communities.

[@darthlaurel]

There are 58 "14ers" in Colorado alone. 14ers are peaks at or over 14,000 feet high. The Appalachian and all other eastern "mountain" ranges are not even half as tall any of these 58 peaks in just Colorado alone.

[@sortaamy3003]

Just to add, the Rockies are young, coming in around 50 million years old. Meanwhile the Appalachian range is around 480 million years old. It's had way more exposure to the weather. Geologists estimate that, in the beginning, the Appalachias were as tall as the Himalayas. Before all that weather, shifting, and time got to them.

[@sandysmietanski688]

I live in Phoenix which is the fifth most populous city in the country somehow despite reaching 116 degrees most summers. Even though there is constant gridlock traffic and crowded conditions in many areas, I can tell you exactly where civilization ends in every direction. Past very specific areas, the only thing you’ll find is nature.

[@JoshuaC0rbit]

I was pretty sure that Houston was the fifth most populous city but I'm too lazy to Google it at 4:00 in the morning.

[@sandysmietanski688]

@@JoshuaC0rbit I just checked and Phoenix is now the 5th largest and Huston moved up to the 4th.

[@bentleyv1233]

Love to have you back Thurston! Missed your vids

[@PerthTowne]

Thanks again for reacting to something about the US of substance. The availability of water across the US, especially in the West, is an interesting subject. I recall being taught in American history and geography about the increased dryness that began at about the 100th meridian a you move west, and the fact that many of the maps of the westward--moving settlers in the 19th century called it "The Great American Desert." And that southwestern area of the US is basically desert.

[@Maya_Ruinz]

I live right on the southern edge of the 98th meridian and I can comfirm, when you head west it goes from general woodlands into desert pretty quickly over about 30 minutes drive. Its considered pretty risky to head west in south Texas if you are not on a main highway, the roads are bad, the heat can be deadly and if you have car problems good luck finding a ride out there.

[@SilvanaDil]

Agriculture consumes far more water than people do in their homes. It's just not necessary for states like Arizona, New Mexico and certain parts of California to do any agriculture. There's more than enough arable land and water in the rest of the country to feed the people.

[@punisherdave7297]

Welcome back. Interesting video. It's great finding out something we didn't know about when it comes to this world and beyond it. I enjoy the content you put out. Made sure to hit the notification Bell.

[@SonOfMuta]

5:37 The narrator literally said what 80% of the population is SECONDS before you paused, you muppet. It's ~260 million

[@SGlitz]

Phoenix, Az where being over 40C is called "summer". It's currently 102F at 4pm on the last week of September. Oh, and we had another dust storm this weekend (only other place is The Sahara). It will be going down into the 90s by the beginning of October. But we are the 5th largest Metropolitan Area in the Country. 😉 Yeah, 🏜️ desert. So of those "30 million" in between 7 live in this Metro area. 😲

[@scwyd6769]

hope your trip was good man! Hope you enjoyed flying! lol

[@route2070]

The height of mountains is that moisture, as clouds has to go over the mountains. So the taller the mountain the more drastically the rain shadow effect is there. In the area I lived, it seemed like the the area the rain stopped and the hills started was the central/mountain timezone line. Part of that may have been since they were moving water in by irrigation. The area was so low in population, we had the only red light for 50 miles. There is a county of 6,000 square miles with 6,000 people 2 counties from where I lived.

[@kingcarlos7048]

jesus where is that

[@route2070]

@@kingcarlos7048 the county with 1 person per square mile? Cherry County Nebraska. North Central Nebraska, ot boarders South Dakota and straddles the timezones.

[@Nicholas_Burmeister]

Glad you're back! Great video!

[@theblackbear211]

Flying in an airplane from the east to the west, you can literally see the dominant color go from green to brown. I've watched it dozens of times over the last 40 years.

[@Bhos68]

The consumption of water in California due to population and crops are what is causing the problem with the Colorado river. Growing almonds and cotton in what is what is considered a desert is ridiculous. Then add the fact that California has NO water restrictions while states with restrictions are give a 20% reduction is ludicrous. They will have to put in a pipeline from the Mississippi River or desalination plants if they don’t fix the amount of water used by this state.

[@Alex-kd5xc]

As someone from southern New Mexico I’m RIGHT smack dab in the midpoint of the “empty” portion of the US. Tbh, I quite prefer it. I currently live in a much bigger city and I miss the wide open and less densely populated stretches of land.

[@mintberrycrunch1752]

Jesse

[@KalEL224]

You literally learned nothing from this video huh?

[@blankmike4613]

Hi, welcome back to doing a show, looking forward to more. (no worries on the under performing tech. We forgive you)

[@frankisfunny2007]

Ayy! Welcome back, Thurston! As far as your mic, I've noticed, but you'll figure it out!

[@jasonrichardson1999]

The Appalachians are like 6 times as old as the Rockies

[@TYGER0902]

Appalachian Mountains 480 million years. Rockies 55-80 million years ago.

[@tywco]

John Wesley Powell was a one-armed BAMF. Utah built and named a massive lake after him, but it’s already drying up. I keep seeing headlines about toxic air in the north too because of shrinking Great Salt Lake. Fun times ahead.

[@MichaelScheele]

It's about 155 miles between Dodge City, KS, and Wichita, KS.

[@osmadchlo]

The Appalachian mountains are much older than the ranges out west, and been much more eroded over time.

[@jasonrichardson1999]

The Appalachians used to be taller than the Himalayans

[@osmadchlo]

@@jasonrichardson1999 Yes!

[@Darvec]

I live at the center of the frontier line, about 90 miles north of Wichita. To the east are trees and cities. The farther east, the more cities. To the west is empty treeless rangeland. When I travel to the light oasis known as Denver, it takes me through 6 hours of nothingness on I-70. I program my car and it drives me through it at 80 mph, doing all the braking and accelerating for me. I still have to pay attention and steer it in the right direction. Many times, my car will shake the steering wheel and beep at me to get my attention when I begin to get hypnotized by the straight road and monotony and the car senses I’m drifting. It’s crazy empty in western Kansas and eastern Colorado. For Brits, the distance from my town to Denver is almost exactly the same from London to Edinburgh.

[@texturesofwater]

Nice reaction. Always enjoy the geography videos. How you enjoyed your trip

[@darrinlindsey]

The Appellation Mountains are more like large hills. Although some areas of the "mountains" are inhabitable, most of the range is habitable. The Rockie Mountains are larger, higher, and have more jagged cliff sides.

[@lesterstone8595]

glad you're back😆

[@jonadabtheunsightly]

Yeah, what's going on is all about topography: the shape of the continent's surface in the vertical dimension. The West (except for the narrow strip along the coast; so we're talking mainly about the Southwest, Mountain States, and Great Plains, and the equivalent parts of Canada and Mexico) is on the lee side of one of the world's largest mountain ranges. Prevailing winds at these latitudes are west-to-east, so as the air passes over the Pacific, it picks up moisture from evaporation, but when it reaches the mountains, it gets pushed uphill, which changes the pressure and temperature, at which point the air can't hold as much moisture as before and it all drops as rain, on the way uphill. Then once it passes over to the lee side and starts downhill, the temperature and pressure move back toward the lower-altitude norm, increasing the amount of moisture the air can hold. Since most of the moisture that was formerly in the air is now gone, the air acts like a dry sponge, soaking up whatever evaporates and raining very little back down. Most of Montana, Nevada, and Arizona are incredibly dry for this reason. Moving further east, the Great Plains (Dakotas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, central Texas) are not as close to the mountains and so not in the worst of the rain shadow and therefore are somewhat less of an outright desert, but rainfall is still limited, because the air is still moving overall downhill as it moves away from the mountains and down into the river valley. However, once you cross the Mississippi, the land starts back uphill, and rain becomes abundant. From the Mississippi River eastward, folks worry more about flood than drought, and things like city storm sewers are designed to route excess water downstream and away as efficiently as possible; rain is generally considered a nuisance and/or a necessary evil. South America would have the same thing, except that the prevailing wind direction at those latitudes is east-to-west, so Brasil ends up being a rainforest; the area west of the Andes is dry (e.g., the Atacama Desert is there) but is not very large, because the mountains are very close to the Pacific; and the area right along the coast does get some moisture from on-shore breezes and such. The Appalachians aren't nearly as steep or tall. The tops are very rounded and are densely forested (whereas, the top third or so of the Rockies is above the tree line, and many of the peaks have permanent snow caps). Also, the area to the east of them is subject to hurricanes (in the South) and noreasters (in the north). The "thousands of years" thing is abject speculation based on computer modeling, smoke, mirrors, opinions, and ideology. We only have actual data for the last hundred years or so, and limited/anecdotal information for another hundred years or so before that.

[@79BlackRose]

No mic issues on this video.

[@stephanieziegler7986]

Welcome back Thurston! ...good video kiddo🤗

[@EvoLeef]

The motto of Fort Worth, Texas is "where the West begins"

[@shawnanderson6313]

Similar to St. Louis, Gateway to the West.

[@jeremiahallyn4603]

I feel sorry for future generations, especially those that live in the west part of the US. If humans don't stop taking and taking from nature, there will be nothing left. Then what's to become of those big cities? It's pretty scary to think about honestly. Glad you reacted to this bro 👍

[@Seastallion]

It's an engineering and human will problem. There ARE solutions that could be done (not easily or cheaply), but would require great commitment and investment. Essentially, a combination of new reservoirs, pipelines, desalination and nuclear power plants could transform the Western half of the US into a lush environment. A woman from NYC is already proving the point by making small periodic reservoirs along rivers in the West, thus altering the microclimate along the river's path into lush areas supporting more plant and animal life. Human impact is NOT intrinsically a bad thing, as some would have people believe.

[@robertschwartz4810]

Your voice sounds deeper today on this mic. I hope you shot some video in Turkey, it seems like such an interesting place.

[@ScammerTakeout]

I was getting worried about you. Glad you’re here now

[@bob20011]

23:00 he was right, the west cities living in deserts are killing all the groundwater and rivers. Even the might colorado is dying along with huge groundwater resivors. We are fucked

[@emeraldcity_]

As a Washington resident, it’s tough to explain to outsiders that 60% of Washington is arid. Everyone thinks it rains all over the state

[@danielchapman6032]

When I saw this video I instantly thought of you. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

[@disoriented1]

I remember as a child in the 70s being fascinated upon visiting Phoenix, Arizona. Almost nobody had grass in their lawns. It was all decorative rock work and cacti. On the flight home, as our flight was on final approach to Kansas City, MO, I heard a young girl from Arizona remark upon seeing the greenery and rivers..'Mommy, it's green!' Her mother replied, ''Yes, it rains here". I admit to appreciating both the arid and wet climates.

[@maxxandubar503]

I live in castle rock Colorado and this was fascinating. I learned alot

[@jessedaniel6330]

i live in the Appalachia mountains and though it is more populated then that its one of the scarcest population in the eastern side of the US

[@LadyOfSummer]

I live in a valley in the eastern part of the Rocky Mountains, we miss out on a lot of moisture and snow because clouds have to rise over the mountains and then back down to get to us and it just doesn't always happen. Most of our water comes from snowmelt, man-made dams, or collecting from local rivers. We do however have good groundwater in some parts of the valley.

[@robbicu]

So glad to see you're back! Check out 10 minute history, always a good time.

[@Adiscretefirm]

Concerning the distance between rainy and dry cities, Wichita to Dodge City is about 150 miles.

[@armanii4005]

You have to react to “why geography makes the US OP” by real life lore 💯

[@thseed7]

Dodge City to Wichita, KS is 155 miles, Amarillo to OKC is 259 miles, Abilene to Dallas is 181 miles, Midland to Dallas is 330 (greater than the width of England) miles.

[@ShizuruNakatsu]

Weird. My American friends are all on Pacific Time, and every time I meet another, they just happen to live west too. They're mostly in Nevada, but also some in California, some in Washington, and one in Oregon. I want to visit most of them, especially those that live in Las Vegas. I can't stand heat though, like at all. The sun makes me sick and tired. I complain about heat on the same days when everyone else here complains about the cold.

[@ohslimgoody]

Welcome back!

[@TheStrawbunnyPrincess]

I just drove from Denver to Austin and it was basically all empty plains.

[@khadijahflygirl991]

Bigfoot lives in the dark spot!

[@tylerahlstrom4553]

Being from the Intermountain west, I like this video because it explains so much but he could have summed it up in one word: water, or a lack thereof.

[@Jervisdude]

I like how he says “water”. Very British

[@kingcarlos7048]

Even the Salt Lake in Utah is disappearing

[@dougbowers4415]

154 miles from Wichita to Dodge City. You were close though.

[@eej9273]

I lived in California and once I moved to buttfuck nowhere it was amazing. You see videos and watch the news but none of it is around you, it is great. No traffic, everything is cheaper, people are nicer, it is quiet, you are still in the US but feel like you are somewhere else. The physical and mental claustrophobia just dissipates. You don't realize it for a while then you think wow I never am in a traffic jam, there is no dmv I just go to a tag agency and get anything done in a couple minutes, there are no lines anywhere, you don't need appointments or reservations, nothing is ever out of stock, you get to experience crazy weather, no sirens and helicopters always flying around, just a train every week or so you hear when you wake up, people actually look at you and acknowledge you and talk with you everywhere and are not just balls deep in their phone worrying about what social media shit is going on that second to the next. Fires that way, hurricanes that way, nothing but peace and quiet and relaxation here. I am happy where I am, are you?

[@Hibbs4Prez]

I have more respect for those poor souls living in the crowded areas of America whose economic impact allows isolationists like yourself to benefit from their tax revenue that sustains your non-productive way of life. They are the REAL Americans. Good luck finding hospitals as they increasing shut down in Nowhereville. Maybe your friendly, wholesome neighbors can perform surgery on you if it ever comes to that.

[@corvus1374]

It's fascinating to see the lights that run from north to south in the middle of California. That's California's Central Valley, which is populated with lots of small cities and is demarcated by two major highways - Interstate 5, and California Highway 99.

[@madscorpionx975]

I live in the little dot of light between the Denver I-25 strip of lights and the smaller Salt Lake City strip of lights. Still too many people here.

[@NolmDirtyDan]

Luka, Colorado is a state

[@Marcus_1001]

10:58 OMG, I busted out laughing so hard!

[@cmudd9788]

Ironically, a lot of the rain we get in the Eastern US is because of the Sahara Desert. A lot of the hurricanes that hit the US are formed just off of the coast of Africa and are caused by the dry air from the Sahara mixing with the moist air from the Sahel.

[@aaronhoy3410]

On that rainfall map neither the dots representing the cities nor even the 100th Meridian line are accurately placed. Both Dodge City & Abilene are in the 99th Meridian for one & Abilene is actually a little bit further south than Dallas is. But the distances between them are roughly Abilene to Dallas is 172.6 miles, Dodge City to Wichita is 147.67 miles, & Amarillo to Oklahoma City is 244.07 miles. Those are just using straight lines between the cities to measure the distance, obviously travelling on a road would be longer.

[@theblackbear211]

Pretty good guess - Wichita to Dodge City is 150 miles more or less.

[@kazeryu17]

One of the main reasons why the Appalachian Mountains don't create deserts is because the Gulf Of Mexico saturates both sides of the mountain range with a significant amount of moisture.

[@Adiscretefirm]

They are very, very old and aren't high enough anymore to affect weather the way younger, taller ranges do.

[@shivamrai2886]

Real Life Lores Ireland video is a banger! Definitely check that out too

[@MCscarfacematt]

Wichita to dodge city are 154.8 miles apart but have over a foot of rain difference but the rain difference you have to account for the hurricanes from the atlantic in the east if they hit texas which does happen it usually dies out by the time it hits west texas and beyond the highest rocky mountain peak in the us is mount elbert standing at 4,401 meters above sea level. whereas the highest Appalachian mountain peak is mount Mitchell standing 2,037 so yes the Appalachian mountains are significantly lower and generally more flat so people can live on the mountain amaricans need to work on water desalination removing salt from ocean water so they have water for drinking and farming im just waiting for the governments to mandate a separate water line to flush toilers with salt water but that would need to have all new utilities run both in and outside every home

[@Seastallion]

You should totally check out RealLifeLore's recent video "Why Geography makes the US insanely OP". It's a great video that gets a lot very correct. I only disagreed with some of the conclusions at the end of the video which weren't even really all that relevant to the main point of the video itself. Still, it does a great job of explaining why the US is so powerful.

[@wizloon9052]

We want to know about your first trip on an airplane, and we want footage from Turkey.

[@LeveyHere]

Interesting stuff!

[@william2085]

Glad you are back.

[@brianschaffer9220]

Appalachian mountains are no where near the size of the Rockies. That is also why Salt Lake City approaches 40 Celsius in the early and midd summer. Mountains. Fronts can’t really get in there to cool it off that time of year.

[@TYGER0902]

Rockies 50-80 million yrs) are young compared to The Appalachian Mountains (480 million years). The Appalachians were as high as the Himalayans at one point. Our tectonic plates go off sometimes but it’s only .4-1 on the scale so nothing noticeable they are ancient.

[@bob20011]

never feel bad about taking time off!

[@jmichaelbell5434]

The huge and historic windmills, in Palm Springs, Calif, where I live, generates great amounts of electricity, not for Palm Springs, nor Californians, it seems! No, most of it is given to Arizona and Las Vegas. Surely this makes sense somehow? Somewhat? Sometime? Somewhere Someway? Someone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

[@tomservo75]

I'm proud to live in that middle area. There's enough of us already, we're rural and happy with it! I take some issue with the narrator saying that there is no "civilization" and this area is "empty." There are plenty of nice small towns in our area, just not crowded. And we like it that way!

[@Hibbs4Prez]

You are so defensive and insecure. You live in an area with barely any people that provide next to nothing in resources but somehow you get equal representation in the Senate.

[@darrinlindsey]

A person that has the money to take on an expensive, but minor risk, could invest in a fleet of desalination boats. In less than 20 years, it'll be the most important industry in Southern California. There will need the be 10s of thousands of these boats, to provide the water, that the Colorado River does now.

[@dawngw26]

There's a whole big ocean to the west of California... I agree desalinization/ reverse osmosis is something to consider. I heard that recently a desalinization plant was voted down in Orange County, CA.

[@danielm5535]

Sierra Nevada mountain range has the highest mountain in the contiguous 48 states: Mount Whitney, at 14505 feet (4421 meters). It’s even more stark that it is about 100 miles away from Death Valley, the lowest elevation in the world (-282 feet, -86 meters below sea level). King’s Canyon is the deepest/steepest of the range having a maximum 8200 ft depth (2500 meters), depending on criteria, it is the deepest canyon in the US. (Hell’s Canyon in Idaho is the other contender)

[@kendahl7922]

The USA was settled from East to west..thus the 80% east of your line

[@williambranch4283]

Water and food. Used to be food was more local then than now. The West is dry and mountainous. Just one state, Wyoming, is bigger than Britain, and only has less than 1/10th the population.

[@aspieatheist6040]

A long time ago, I remember my dad drove me through Wyoming. It was beautiful, but you would travel for hours without seeing a single house, and then out of nowhere, you would come across a big house literally in the middle of nowhere. How do people live like this? How do you go to the store? I don't know.

[@jacklewis5452]

People should move to the Fresh Water Belt.......aka the Great Lakes Region.

[@phreak1118]

I live in that great big void!

[@playerpgy]

nice video!

[@SGlitz]

Science vs Politics. So 2022. Political Science.

[@gk5891]

Good video to react to.

[@wizardofharry]

Maaaaan I swear I am moving out this country

[@stonemansteveiii3135]

Who purposely visits Turkey?!!

[@chnalvr]

The U.S. population in 2022 is 332 million people.

[@ChrisSantino]

Sahara means deserts in arabic by the way.

[@James-0077]

U should watch the Canada version of this

[@grahamparks1645]

Denver is Colorado

[@UnpluggedIndividualYT]

Weather engineering.

[@Nostripe361]

What happens if the state population goes below what was necessary to vote the creation of the state? Can they go back to territories?

[@marydavis5234]

NO

[@Histography1453]

React to the new Johnny Harris video.