REACTION: BYU w/SHOCKING blowout of Kansas State, Colorado survives, USC embarrassed by Michigan

[@PerryMitchell-r3l]

BYU average start of possession was the 40 yard line. They did not need to get a lot of yards to score. At times the offense played great. They had a walk on freshman running the ball and he looked great.

[@romebigred2]

I'll admit, offense isn't that strong. That I'll accept. But the reason for great field position was fantastic defense that forced errors. Some of it was that Edwards is a tough stadium to play in, valid, and there were a few errors that KSU made that we didn't force--but our guys responded by taking advantage, which takes skill. KSU didn't do as well when we made mistakes, and we didn't make as many. That should say something.

[@danielclark5586]

Only thing I will say is that holding SMU and K State to field goals says a lot. Time will tell how BYU twll last in the full year perspective but this was a fun game and great magic. It would be funny if Utah and BYU finish 1 and 2 in the BIg 12. Not this year but soon. Love your energy and presentation

[@KevinKevish24]

Looking at the total yards and judging BYU for their lack of yards in this game is a poor job of analyzing the game. BYU had several short fields and gained over 50% of the yards available to them. Not saying that BYU has a great offense, just don’t judge based on the yards alone.

[@bighornbasin]

I don't think BYU's offense will get them to the Big 12 title game. But don't dismiss the crowd at LES. It's electric because of them. Lot's of teams lose composure in that stadium, which leads to all the penalties and mistakes. Just ask K State.

[@Uhtred-the-bold]

I think it’s fair to be hesitant about BYU. But I think you are short changing how they played last night

[@romebigred2]

BYU isn't as good as #13 in the nation, but you're so right--the defense CAUSED many (not all) errors, and skillfully capitalized on almost all of them, whether they caused them or not. Our offense didn't make many errors, and KSU wasn't as good of taking advantage of the ones we did make. We played so well that night.

[@tmtSHD]

@@romebigred2 Good luck against the OK State.

[@LanceRigby]

I also feel you are not giving enough credit to BYU. They may not blow out K State but wow the dismissal is funny that d has held two power 4 teams to 0 TDs. K state was also gifted 3 points because Avery did not score on that play they reviewed. BYU also drove the field for the field goal before the turn of momentum in fact you could say that was the start. I may not be completely on board with the O but that D will keep them in every game period.

[@DrDarrenSilvester]

has ' t Cam Rising in his 8th year?

[@artoftruthpodcast8678]

That muffed punt resulting in a 93 yard td return was a play I’ll never forget👏😂

[@LockedOnCollegeFootball]

Absolutely electric stuff

[@lancemannion4525]

Yeah, You don’t think BYU is real… You also didn’t think the PAC 12 would end up being Oregon State, Washington State, and a couple of teams from the WAC either… yet it did (and yes,I know, it’s the Mtn West and not the WAC… but what’s the difference?).

[@romebigred2]

Yeah, MWC was basically the WAC.

[@lancemannion4525]

Dude… Thanks for the revelation that BYU will make a bowl!!! They are 4-0 in week 4. What’s that they say about defenses winning championships? Look up the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with Trent Dilfer and see what they did with all defense and zero offense. No offense, but you kids these days really need to do your homework to be taken seriously. Utah? 22-19 Statement win? Huh??!! Back to BYU though… How many TD’s did K State score with all of that offense? They were in the red zone a lot because BYU’s D couldn’t get off the field? How many TD’s did KS score from the RZ? How many TD’s did K State score in 4 quarters? Game over. You’ve got to give credit to a team that holds an offense like K State’s out of the end zone for an entire ball game… whether it’s during the night, daytime, or at Christmas.

[@Duck_Disciple]

Uh oh, somebody got triggered by a different opinion than theirs… 🤔

[@TJYfan32]

When your average start of possession is on the opponents side of the field of course you aren't going to pile up yards. The total yards hardly says anything. They hardly had an opportunity to drive down the field.

[@theoptimist9605]

BYU dominated my Utes for 35 years, before we received a gift from the PAC 12 and Urban Myer. It feels like BYU is about to dominate us again… but not this year! Go Utes‼️

[@romebigred2]

I am a Coug, but have deep respect for Utes! Before those 35 years of strength, the Utes dominated us for 50 years! PAC-12 attention, money, and recruiting power, we haven't been able to actually rival you. We get some wins against Utah, but we don't have the rankings and actual star power of Utah. We are not about to dominate--ESPECIALLY not this year. But we might be starting to catch up! Give us a couple years, and I think we're back to the neck-and-neck rivalry we had around 2010. This year, I root for my Cougs, but we aren't making the title race or the Big-12 championship. This year, I hope Utah makes us proud and makes it to the playoff bowls!

[@theoptimist9605]

@@romebigred2 Thanks for the comment. I shouldn’t say this, but we really didn’t dominate you guys fairly during those first 50 years. We had scholarship players and your BYU teams were just filled up with students. Our claims to lead the series with you guys is actually kind of unfair. Please don’t tell anyone! Best wishes

[@THEeyepatch11]

Tell me something... Why do team down south fans pretend to be Ute fans? I know you're not a Ute fan so what are your account(s) on KSL, SLT and of course... I know you have an account on Deseret News? Be a man, I dare you. Hilarious.

[@Jonas-22]

@@THEeyepatch11 You might be the biggest joke that comments on BYU stuff. Hilarious.

[@THEeyepatch11]

@@Jonas-22 No, a joke would be a team down south fan pretending to be a Ute fan like Op(tds)fan above. How desperate and pathetic like all tds fans are. Hilarious.

[@scottb296]

That 93 yard punt return TD might be BYU's highlight play of the year so far . . . As for BYU being a Big 12 Title Contender, I'm not sure that was the goal for them this season anyway. BYU's goal this year was simply to become a post season team again and if they can eek out 2 more wins on their schedule, they'll achieve that goal. I think they are an improving team and they can be very solid and competitive in conference this year. Offensively they are getting better. They are underrated offensively and I see them only getting better every week so, we'll see where they shake out by the end of the season.

[@russelldesertvikinganderso3386]

The turnovers & giant plays made the need for yards & a full stat sheet unnecessary. They scored TDs & stopped KSU. KSU scored Zero TDs (Like SMU) .

[@russelldesertvikinganderso3386]

Also it's not..."Bottom tier teams playing up." Nor....."top teams playing down." It's picking the wrong teams in the wrong order again & sticking with said poor picks.

[@FOBulous55]

Do you understand that you can’t gain yards with short fields? 😂😂

[@jonfeeshman]

Kansas ate up most the time of possession too.

[@tmtSHD]

K-State is a good football team. They can still win the Big12 title. Just that the BYU defense is legit.

[@matthewcastleton2263]

Utah winning without Rising @ Oklahoma State has got to be one of the most impressive victories any team has had so far this year. I was skeptical of Utah’s chances WITH Cam Rising. And they proved my skepticism to be unwarranted, because they won WITHOUT HIM. Unbelievable victory that could be the catalyst for Utah having a legendary season this year. Like, 2004/2008 Utah football level of legendary. This team reminds me of the 2008 team, in that they had an absolutely ELITE defense coupled with an above average to pretty excellent offense. Rising makes Utah not just the premiere Big 12 contender, but a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP contender. Utah’s defense this year is like Georgia-level good.

[@andrewcunningham9662]

When your defense gets a scoop and score and you get a punt return for a touchdown, your offense doesn’t even get on the field. Add 2 super short fields caused by 2 interceptions within the 40 yard line, plus consider the fact that BYU was essentially up by 2+ scores the entire second half and really wanted to run out the clock. All these factors lead to an offense that didn’t need or even want to take risks and rack up the yards.

[@LoneWanderer727]

Boston College STILL getting slept on. Not their best performance, but they still found a way to win against an MSU team that, imo, is underrated right now. They will probably win their next 3 games before getting Louisville at home for a top 25 matchup

[@LockedOnCollegeFootball]

BOB is doing a great job but I don't see them as a top tier team in the ACC, at least not on Miami/Clemson level

[@lloydcady7231]

SC lost the games in half between pathetic offensive line and pathetic play calling. Riley’s play calling was questionable giving up 290 yd in rushing

[@Hoopes2004]

BYU’s yards per play avg the same as Kansas State, especially before the kneel downs. With special teams touchdown and Short fields, not many yards out there… especially since they got conservative after being up big. crazy game for sure, but the total yards don’t tell the story.

[@cbphoto87]

Don’t count BYU out. If they take care of business at home they might be right in the mix for a 7-2/6-3 conference record. At Baylor will tell us a lot.

[@malaw514]

To play devils advocate. BYUs defense couldn’t get off the field. Only forced 1 punt (which was fielded for a touchdown, crazy only one punt but Kstate only managed 9 points). On the offensive side… 1st half 4 possessions 2 punts a fg and a touchdown. 1st possession had two drops and was 3 and out. Second possession was 10 plays and a punt. That possession is fine, it rests the defense and flips the field. 3rd possession 13 plays fieldgoal 4th possession short field off a turnover 2 plays 29 yards TD. 3/4 possessions for the offense are a positive. With no turnovers. 2nd half 1st possession 2 plays 27 yards touchdown. (Give the offense credit for converting turnovers to touchdowns) 2nd possession 5 plays 17 yards punt. Not a great possession but not a three and out. Gave the defense a break. 3rd possession 6 plays 38 yards TD. Punished KS for turnover on downs. 4th possesion BYU goes conservative 3 and out 5th possesion 4 plays including a first down, end of game. 7/9 possessions were positive for BYU 5/9 were scoring possessions. That’s a damn good offense showing who controlled the game within what was allotted to them. The box score doesn’t look great because Kstate 4 yard and 5 yard rushed the defense for most of the game.

[@lancemannion4525]

@@malaw514 How many TD’s did K State score with all of that offense? They were in the red zone a lot because BYU’s D couldn’t get off the field? How many TD’s did they score from the RZ? How many TD’s did K State score in 4 quarters? Game over.

[@malaw514]

@@lancemannion4525 No shit. “”Crazy only one punt but Kstate only managed 9 points”. My post was in relation to his take that BYU has a dominant defense and a bad offense. Clearly the defense was great but… it wasn’t getting off the field (don’t be pissy about it, that was what kalani was talking about post game). My post was just to point out hey the offense was actually pretty damn solid within the opportunities they were given. Both sides of the ball have room to improve.

[@kendalldean9612]

I agree with the host. BYU is playing competitively but they have a lot of issues offensively before you could consider them a Big12 contender. They are getting better but BYU has a propensity to make a lot of errors. Their 3rd down conversion is still suspect. Jake is improved but there are still questions about the run game. The O line is better but they missed a lot of blocks. All that said, BYU is in a good position. Now let's put the pedal to the metal and beat Baylor. Maintain the intensity!

[@LockedOnCollegeFootball]

Hey someone agrees with me!

[@frictionhitch]

The top 4 conferences in cfb are the SEC, B1G, Utah, and Miami.

[@frictionhitch]

Is Isaac Wilson as old as you were when you graduated High School? Post Bad Moon Rising is lookin pretty good in Utah. 🤘Go Utes🤘

[@frictionhitch]

PS Cam is coming back to Utah as a QB coach. Part of me think he has already started the transition. I could play but nah let my boy do it, I believe in him. I have sources that tell me that Utah's coach in waiting has named Cam Rising Coach in waiting waiting.

[@brow7809]

Check your brain at the door for this podcast!! How did this guy get this job!?!?! I am commenting because I hope he continues to give us his bad takes. It’s very entertaining. “Not all my takes age well” You have like 3 correct takes in the last 3 years. Everything else is you say is uneducated and unrealistic.

[@LockedOnCollegeFootball]

My takes are not going anywhere, fear not.

[@Duck_Disciple]

U sound like a jack ass, considering he has done this podcast for less than a year. So clearly your “statistics” are little off. U kinda lose the argument right there. So wear your L proudly. 🎉🤡

[@DrDarrenSilvester]

isn't Cam Rising in his 8th year?

[@LockedOnCollegeFootball]

7th I think

[@Niue-lt3mn]

Get a new job you don't know anything about BYU..!!! BYU TAKES OVER BIG12!!!

[@weljenks]

That kid is better than Arnold. Don't ride high school hype. He throws better and he can run. I saw that kid play South Oak Cliff in the semi-final state championship playoffs for a team that was playing their first season of football. The team seems to prefer him as well. Mark it, two years from now this kid will have a more impressive college career than Arnold. If not in Oklahoma then somewhere else. Jackson Arnold has been BAD all year long, including against MEDIOCRE competition.

[@skysimpson1313]

Your opinion aged like milk in a nuclear reactor

[@jacobmathews3883]

This guy is hypocritical at best! Talking about a byu offense that isn’t sustainable? Then goes on to talk about Utah! Utah only put up 207 yards of offense! Against OSU and offense is lost without rising! Not to mention byu on every offensive possession received the ball on average at the middle of the field literally impossible to have more offensive yards! BYU scored TD on following every takeaway. If you take away the 21 point from turnovers BYU offense still wins the game 17 - 9. This guy clearly biased. Oh and just one more thing BYU has beat the odds 4 times.

[@mrp4242]

Do better on your homework--or rather what Utah game were you watching that you think Utah only put up 207 yards of “offense?” Issac Wilson had 207 PASSING yards, but Utah also rushed for 249 yards with Micah Bernard getting 182 yards. That’s 456 yards of offense.

[@jacobmathews3883]

@@mrp4242 oh my bad yeah when Utah doubles the time of possession they double the yards! BYU had the ball literally half the time! That how I am comparing numbers! The comparisons have to made equal! BYU literally can’t have more yards if possessions are giving with under 50 yards to go!

[@jacobmathews3883]

@@mrp4242 I’m not the only one that understands this logic my friend

[@TirpitzLuminare]

So, out of curiosity where do you think BYU will end up at the end of the season? You state he's being hypocritical and biased, then you suggest even with removing the takeaways the game would have still been 17-9... However, you're not taking into account, that had those takeaways not happened, K-State would have most likely scored - multiple times. Sounds like a biased take to me is all I'm saying. This is why you can't make arguments based on hypotheticals like that - too many unforeseen variables. To be clear I have no dog in this race. Anything can happen, the BIG12 is pretty clearly an open race if Utah can't get Cam back, and the "good" teams have looked pretty mid so far. Either way it's gonna be fun to watch.

[@LockedOnCollegeFootball]

And what was my take on Utah with regards to their offense?

[@bryantaylor8848]

2:09 241 yards total offense, yes and the average starting field position was something like the 44 yard line. This is due in part to balanced team performance, sound game prep by the coaches & players, and fantastic cougar nation NOISE… Preparation & execution were key ingredients so when opportunity knocked BYU players rose to the occasion and executed above expectations of others. Now this is on tape it will be much less likely to be repeated in every category perhaps, but will likely lead to better team success overall this season than without these great plays…

[@Jonas-22]

I know everyone and their dog is saying this in the comments, but BYU's average field position was the 44. Same yards per play as K-State. Both their running backs averaged 5 ypc, the team rushing was just down from sacks. Jake Retzlaff was 16/21 for 2 touchdowns. BYU hasn't allowed two legit offenses into the end zone this year, and has forced three turnovers from both. SMU just put up a 66 bomb on a good TCU team, but BYU held them to only field goals. They took care of the ball, and capitalized on K-State's mistakes. They played a very similar game against SMU, but didn't capitalize on their mistakes and had three giveaways. Not sure what isn't sustainable about that. We have Kansas, Houston, and Arizona at home, which all look very winnable right now. OKST looks flawed, and coming to LES at 8:15 on a Friday night won't make it easy. ASU and Baylor are far from super powers, so what's keeping BYU from going 10-2 realistically? Utah is a rivalry, so that should be good, UCF will definitely be tough, I'd imagine that's a loss. Michigan can pass for only 34 yards and that's good, but BYU can't run for 94 (5 ypc from running backs, and have their best LOOKING running game of the season) and be a good team. They're just lucky and can't sustain that.

[@THEeyepatch11]

@@Jonas-22 Your team is no Michigan and never will be. Hilarious.

[@Jonas-22]

@@THEeyepatch11 Been awful quiet lately, how's 4-2 treating you in this cakewalk of a conference?

[@THEeyepatch11]

@@Jonas-22 I've been very vocal, just not on post from 2 weeks ago. Did you have to scroll around to find me? Good to know I live in your head... Pretty empty in here. Hilarious.

[@Jonas-22]

@@THEeyepatch11 I just wanted to check in and make sure you're okay, your whole thing is Utah being soooo much better than BYU, so I figured you might be having an identity crisis at this point.

[@THEeyepatch11]

@@Jonas-22 Right... Just look at the Big XII currently, the two best teams are Iowa State and your power conference wannabes. Obviously the ACC is the 3rd best conference in college football when their best teams are Clemson and Miami and not the ISU and tds equivalents Louisville and Wake Forest. Your team still has a month before they hobble up to SLC right?! Your team better win now. Hilarious.

[@lancemannion4525]

Dude… Thanks for the revelation that BYU will make a bowl!!! They are 4-0 in week 4. What’s that they say about defenses winning championships? Look up the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with Trent Dilfer and see what they did with all defense and zero offense. No offense. You kids these days need to do your homework to be taken seriously. Utah? 22-19 Statement win? Huh??!! Back to BYU though… How many TD’s did K State score with all of that offense? They were in the red zone a lot because BYU’s D couldn’t get off the field? How many TD’s did KS score from the RZ? How many TD’s did K State score in 4 quarters? Game over. You’ve got to give credit to a team that holds an offense like K State’s out of the end zone for an entire ball game… whether it’s during the night, daytime, or at Christmas.

[@LockedOnCollegeFootball]

WSU was 4-0 and missed a bowl FWIW