Reaction to Goku vs Superman. Epic Rap Battles of History

[@whatitdodave]

My ERB reaction playlist! kzbin.info/aero/PLG217Y9Pofu6dn2PNbn71uh36sa2Hmjf6

[@kaisernightfall417]

"what's the opposite of Christopher Walking? Christopher Reeve!" - Vegeta DBZ Abridged

[@Bobal27]

Why do so many people call him “Reeves?” It’s Reeve. Is this another huge Mandela Effect, like the Berenstein (Berenstain) Bears?

[@kaisernightfall417]

@@Bobal27 mistyped

[@Bobal27]

@@kaisernightfall417 All good, I’m still saying that in general. I’d believe you if you said that DBZ Abridged called him “Reeves,” and that your quote was correct. Everyone on the internet seems to call him “Reeves.”

[@kaisernightfall417]

@@Bobal27 that's true. Maybe that's why I quoted it like that x)

[@malionshadowweaver4282]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 one of the best lines!

[@daniellucas5522]

There's a few ERBs like this where there's just one bar that makes the entire rest of the battle irrelevant. Just utterly brutal.

[@liptontea4876]

Miss Carriage

[@uredbulldawg]

The “184 world records” bar comes to mind

[@RedBolt244]

Me: I’m not biased Goku: HOW MANY- Also me: goku won, no effort

[@xheralt]

"Synthesizing kryptonite took time and a small fortune. Fortunately, I had both" -- Bruce Wayne (in Frank Miller's Return of the Dark Knight)

[@Rickkee007]

Frank miller is not a canon superman series.

[@alexthe1star]

@@Rickkee007 who cares it's a dope story

[@jabbathehutt83]

@@alexthe1star its ight

[@Spuggky45]

I loved that!

[@bulemakanyuk]

It literally was the only time Batman beat Supes. In canon, Batman could never beat Supes

[@riteousrighthand6144]

Fun Fact, in the Comic, that Justice League: Doom is based off of(Tower of Babel), Batman hit superman with a synthetic kryptonite that actually made Kal's skin transparent. Essentially sending all of Superman's abilities into an uncontrollable overdrive.

[@mnkybl8]

You seemed to not understand The chi chi bar , it is the name of Gokus wife. Goku had a great rebuttal with the Lois lane bar! Love your reactions got a new sub b

[@jakeand9020]

This one was pretty light weight for the majority, kinda see boxers that just throw little jabs to see how their opponent reacts (feeling each other out) but then Goku comes in with one-two haymaker uppercut combo for the instant KO.

[@Zayamad]

When he calls him pasty, he's saying he isn't tanned like he spends a lot of time in the sun.

[@cryo4952]

That last bar took it for me, I agree with u when u say that goku took this Great video :D

[@waltonnewton1149]

RIP Christopher Reeve........may your name one day rest well and not be used in bad battles

[@VampsOnCrack]

Finally someone who recognises Ray William Johnson!!

[@malionshadowweaver4282]

Ikr?!

[@Whiskey_Assassin]

Everybody's "Favorite Martian"

[@majinsole8554]

It is Justice League: Doom you’re thinking of, which is based off of the comic run “Tower of Babel”, but he’s referring to when an older future version of Batman did it in Frank Miller’s “The Dark Knight Returns” ~_~

[@KurNorock]

That wasn't a reference to Marvel. The "emcee" or "MC" literally means "Master of Ceremonies" which is whoever is in charge of some sort of entertainment event. That is why old school rappers called themselves "MC".

[@dunker-roo9552]

Melatonin is a sleep aid. melanin is skin pigment. There are two main types of melanin actually… Eumelanin (which is brown to black pigments) and Pheomelanin (yellow to red pigments).

[@whatitdodave]

I meant melanin 😂

[@dunker-roo9552]

@@whatitdodave I know fam. I paid way too much to go to a high end Cosmetology school… I’m just stoked to be able to talk about this stuff, lol. Great video love the channel!!! Keep em coming.

[@jakeand9020]

Pretty sure everyone knew what he meant. And yeah, from someone who can get a sunburn on a rainy day, Supes is pretty pale to be powered by the sun.

[@thechatteringclown]

@@jakeand9020 correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it make 0% for goku to be darker? I mean, the whole purpose of melanin is to block uv-radiation from entering the body, as that radiation is harmful for humans. However, unlike humans superman draws his power from the sun and more precisely the uv-radiation from our yellow sun. It's what gives him his strength. So why would superman's body ever develop a substance that prevents him from accquring the thing he needs to live? I get where the misconception comes from, but as I said, it makes zero sense for supes to be black.

[@austincollins8781]

@@thechatteringclown he just means tanning

[@spiderfingers86]

This episode is a battle between a superhero and a super saiyan

[@OverworkedITGuy]

That Chris Reeves reference hurt my soul

[@abdelrahmanahmed611]

Goku would've won without the first verse, the last two lines alone were enough to end whole thing

[@imarrams511]

For me,Goku won this battle. That last line took everything. Btw I love your voice. So soothing. Perfect for ASMR lol. You got a new subscriber.

[@KurNorock]

Yes, all the saiyans are named after vegetables. Kakkorot = carrot, Radditz = raddish, Broly = broccoli. And the king and prince are called Vegeta which = vegetables.

[@tactless8671]

But if you get your powers from the sun wouldn't less pigment make you more powerful?

[@andrefaelnar]

Christopher Reeves got bullied a lot by Eminem and now they mentioned him in this. Sad that he cant catch a break.

[@TheJohnald]

Batman is just smart if he knows you exist he has a way to take you down

[@josuerodriguez4499]

ive seen a lot of people react to this and you are the 1st to catch or at least mention those rap bombs on japan

[@bensturges674]

“Snap a carrot” All the Saiyan names are references to vegetables Vegeta > Vegetable Kakarot > carrot Broly > broccoli Bardock > burdock Nappa > generic word for “greens” in Japanese

[@ifazer8akathedoctor275]

smart guy

[@daytonbudreau3532]

Melanin Dave not melatonin, melatonin is a sleep aid

[@frankjuggaloheathen1035]

"Goku might take it just for that bar" Goku: HOLD MY SENZU BEANS

[@DETH-PVNK]

That last line from goku was immaculate. The superman curse. George reeve from the series and then Christopher Reeves. Oh my god. Aaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!

[@Bloivbh]

I used to watch these when I was younger so to see that someone can still find these pretty funny Is awesome🖤/Batman Has Beaten Superman Multiple Times All In different Ways💯🔥

[@ssfbob456]

I'll point out that, in Canon, Batman has never soloed Superman. He's made him temporarily vulnerable with kyrponite, but he's never been able to follow through. Even the bug example people hold up, The Dark Knight Returns, he had to have Green Arrow ambush him with Kryponite and Superman didn't really want to fight in the first place. When it comes down to it, if Superman wanted to kill Batman, he'd probably just heat vision him from orbit.

[@jace8706]

And how FUn would that be to watch? By that same logic, if batman really wanted to kill SM, he would make a krypto cannon sattelite and krypto SM from orbit. There is NOTHING more boring than a superhero whose weakness EVERYONE KNOWS. Im amazed they didnt kill him yet, with the ammount of kryptonite they manage to find in all those DC episodes.

[@jerolddavis]

This is one of the most brutal, distespectful battles they ever wrote. Between Hiroshima/Nagasaki, ChiChi/Lois Lane, and then the Christopher Reeve closer.

[@jace8706]

Batman also had a kyptonite batarang hidden in some sort of super coffer in one of these newer batman cartoons.... i think it was "Batman from the future", not sure.

[@Heart_Nattie]

6:01 that's not the only meaning of "Superman that h*" they are using here... 😈😈

[@lordapache5402]

Melatonin? Melatonin is a hormone released by your body at night to prepare for sleep. I think you meant melanin, which refers to skin pigmentation. Regarding that, while lighter skin is more susceptible to damage from prolonged exposure to UV radiation (black/darker skin can still be sunburnt), it is more effective at absorbing nutrients like vitamin D from sunlight, so it does arguably make even more sense in Superman's case.

[@stevenscott9470]

"Emcee" was referring to what the call rappers. "MC's" etc.

[@michellemccloy823]

When you hear that epic last line from Goku...... *OOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH* meme plays

[@TheNaughtySenpai]

That Reeves line is Dirty af but oml it's one of the best in all of ERB imo xD

[@mikemath9508]

Emcee is the title for someone controlling a microphone particularly during music. Goku doesn't live in a village

[@LuckySnowy441]

5:07 You said Melatonin, Did you mean Melanin? Melatonin's a sleeping pill.

[@whatitdodave]

Yep melanin is what I meant 😂

[@cParman9]

the slick mc line is in reference to what you call rappers. MC like MC Hammer and so on.

[@chrisshanteau5353]

Nice new headphones dave!!! I bet these beats hit totally different. Kakarot means carrot lol, vegeta literally Means vegetable. Napa like the cabbage… there are more food named characters in dbz. Like a lot

[@whatitdodave]

These headphones are alright. My others ones got destroyed by my kid, so these will have to do. I prefer in ear or over the ear ones, rather then on the ear. But yeah the beats are slapping and I can hear myself when I talk better.

[@JD-jp2cs]

The rap bombs on japan bar was definitely a reference to Hiroshima and Nagasaki the 2 atomic bombs the US dropped on them in WW2 damn

[@gosurf_5068]

1st

[@andersonjoshua18]

The carrot line is a reference to DBZs naming conventions: Vegeta(vegetable) Kakarot(carrot) Napa(Napa cabbage) Broli(broccoli) Also "freeze your whole measly species" = Frieza destroyed their planet.

[@ridleydaemonia1134]

"that hurt his soul." Oof, not yet

[@TheSchizo2]

Ah yes, melatonin, your skin pigment, not to be confused with melanin, the natural hormone your body uses for sleep lmfao xD. Just playin, great reaction btw!

[@ItsSebunGG]

Y'know after watching this years later and that I'm not a kid, I'm pretty sure ray William Johnson was goku

[@Twist-The-Friendly-Hunter]

Is a common misunderstanding that America was solely responsible for the first atomic bombs. They dropped them yes, however they were actually invented by American, British ect scientists and if I remember correctly, captured German scientists. The nuclear reactor/energy source was actually created before the bomb.

[@eugenephoenix2847]

If you were a fan of DBZ growing up i HIGHLY recommend watching or even reacting to DragonBall Z Abridged by Team 4 Star

[@thechatteringclown]

Actually, as someone pointed out to me, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, wouldn't it make 0% for goku not to be pale skinned? I mean, the whole purpose of melanin, the substance that's responsible for turning our skin dark, is to block of uv-radiation from entering the body, as that radiation is harmful for humans. However, unlike humans superman draws his power directly from the sun and more precisely the uv-radiation from our yellow sun. It's what gives him his strength. So why would superman's body ever develop a substance that prevents him from accquring the thing he needs to live? Yeah, I get. Sun =dark skin, sounds logical from a human perspective, but if you actually think about it, it makes zero sense for a kryptonian like supes to be black.

[@whatitdodave]

I stated in the video that bar was weak simply because Superman is an alien, so it’s safe to assume he does not have the same issue us humans have.

[@jordanpax9735]

Except your forgetting Clark only has his powers because of the yellow sun, his native universe had a red sun which made his people normal. Hence why they have different skin tones like earthlings

[@thechatteringclown]

Except, while that statement doesn't really make sense in the first place, you're also forgetting that a red sun is inherrently "weaker" than a yellow sun, meaning it doesn't produce the same amount of energy a yellow sun does. this includes uv radiation, which is very low to pretty close to non-existent in a red sun, once again meaning that kryptonians had no reason to develop a pigment that protects them from a non-existent source of radiation.

[@ms_scribbles]

You guys are thinking *way* too deep into this.

[@jappperon7012]

Krypto batarang, in the punchy fights its a war of attrition with goku needing to learn the sun recharges him and go far enough away and maybe eating a senzu.

[@daniellucas5522]

No doubt goku could win if he was willing to do the things necessary to weaken superman - blowing up the sun, running away from a yellow star, etc. But goku would never do those things, he'd fight superman at his strongest only.

[@jappperon7012]

@@daniellucas5522 he wouldnt blow up the sun but fleeing the star thats powering up his foe isnt beyond him.

[@daniellucas5522]

@@jappperon7012 The only times he's been willing to weaken an opponent to win is to protect the planet. Against anyone else he always wants to fight them at their strongest. And if it's an evil superman you can't protect the planet by leaving it.

[@darrenmcentire2374]

"Melatonin" I'm 💀

[@multi-voiceentertainment7013]

You got your ass beat by a bat with no powers. He's talking about the Dark Knight Returns. Where the government is asking Superman to talk to his friend to go back into retirement because he is embarrassing them. But Batman refused so now they have to fight.

[@bottlemanepic3781]

Isnt there a movie batman vs superman

[@galotharnevimteam]

Gandhi vs Martin Luther King is awesome too :D

[@Lord_Cabby]

Also I love the MLK Jr one vs Gandhi

[@MotivGuy94]

I mean you technically werent wrong...they dropped the bombs in retaliation to pearl harbor 😂

[@orionshadowveil]

Early gang for the crew. They lack Melatonin Chief?

[@whatitdodave]

I ment melanin 🤣

[@optimusprowse6448]

Yep, Goku went there...

[@diegogama6115]

You can't comeback from the last line. goku didn't even used the kamehameha xD You maybe lost the line when superman talks about Chi Chi ( Goku's wife) and the Goku reply talkin about Louis and the "camel toe"

[@gabrielcastorena5716]

My middle name is legally vegeta

[@riotowa]

Son Goku is his earth name in all db media not just in Japan

[@kobil316SH]

Why your voice so silky though?

[@spiderfingers86]

NicePeter wanted to play both of the most useless sidekicks

[@erixgutierrez6552]

well he screwed up then I mean Krillin is definitely not more useless than Yamcha

[@Ragnarsson1975]

McGee from DC Superman is a DC comic main heri

[@AzathothXy]

The paler you are the more solar radiation you would absorb. It works for Supes.

[@dunker-roo9552]

Quite the opposite actually… eumelanin (brown to black pigment) protects your skin from ultraviolet radiation by absorbing it before it can damage your epidermis. General rule for light and color is that the lighter something is the more (or larger wavelengths) light is reflected from the object.

[@babassoonist557]

You’re right Robbie wasn’t the same. He was better Also Superman has entrusted Batman with a piece of kryptonite in case he ever loses control of himself (like if poison ivy or Hecate controlled him) but in Dark Knight Returns Batman fights him by just using a suit that allows him to punch hard enough to hurt Superman. Oh and the US government nukes Superman

[@Silver82b]

All saiyans are named after veggies.

[@valkyriesmilk6697]

I don't fully remember but I know batman used some kinda kryptonite shot to basically turn superman into well just man a man with no powers that way he and batman could have a fair even battle and batman could beat him fair and square no powers only hand to hand combat

[@LinardsZ]

DC animated movie Red son of Krypton shows how Russian batman destroyed him.

[@antobono64]

How is it that goku from this looks better than the live action movie

[@devinmcfadden7030]

I thought they were thinking of doing another one in the future ... I hope so. All goku stuff is fire. Check ssj9k goku raps. Some have bars. Some are funny as hell.

[@Vakaria-plays]

Batman has beat Superman many times but the reference here in this video is from the anime movie Batman the dark knight returns, which is a two part movie so there is a part 1 and a part 2 where Batman and Superman has their final showdown, both the batman costume as well as some of the plot of Batman Versus superman dawn of justice movie from 2016 was based on that anime. If you haven't watched Batman the dark knight returns i strongly recommend it, its really good but also sad and very very violent, its not a movie for the little kids, there is literally blood, gore, violence and murder in this two part movie, but its GREAT! :D

[@mikemath9508]

Goku Forever Any time in any life I may live If a future has me reincarnated in the year 32,003 Im supporting Goku. Its just a shame that a lot of people miss the last Christopher Reeves line. I do like Superman's sleek greasy MC from DC line though

[@martialfitnessnyc]

Supes got murdered.

[@legohunter1020]

Hey Kakarot. What's the opposite of Christopher Walken?

[@jameswilliams7873]

CHRISTOPHER REEVE

[@Lord_Cabby]

Do the Steve Jobs vs Bill gates

[@iLL-the-Legend]

Emcee is spelled emcee...

[@JakkFrost1]

"Emcee" is the phonetic spelling of MC, as in a rap MC.

[@ARCAlpha12]

Batman beat Superman on several occasions, including in The Dark Knight Returns, which is the comic/animated movie that Batman Vs Superman took inspiration from. In that one, Superman was still recovering from surviving a nuclear bomb, and took on an older, 60-something year old Batman who was coming out of retirement, who wore the same power armor in Batman v Superman. Batman had Superman on the ropes and was one punch away from finishing the fight before he suffered a heart attack. Granted, Superman was still very weak from the nuke, but he still was kicked to the curb by an old man in power armor.

[@unclebobboomergames]

Supes was winning till that last burn

[@superdoran6396]

Plus the batman vs superman to me I liked it and it made a lot of since. Batman is already paranoid and now he is watching this "hero" fly through buildings and throw cars. And asks the question well what happens to the buildings with the people inside after. Which makes batman see him as a villian as batman blames himself and is always careful not to lose 1 person much less a whole building full of people. And superman whole reason to see him as a villian which is cannon is pretty much he looks scary. Batman is a lot more justified. And it does also show what would happen. Which all batman has to do is hold up a green rock and there goes superman powers. So he now has the strength of a human and your not going to beat batman with this 1950s boxing style thay superman always had. He knows every martial art and utilizes all these gadgets so it's pretty obvious who is going to win. But a lot of people didn't like the movie. But it is true I mean batman is a genius the first thing he always does is prepare and look for any weakness. An obvious green rock is going to come up. So many people actually got mad becouse they made this scene with superman grabbing and using batman line on him. Which was literally just to satisfy them. Becouse when you think about it batman has already escaped the world's hardest prision to escape in his movies. The place they threw Bain. Superman is nicknamed boyscout he is not going to kill him. But when you think on it all that would happen if that happened without batman trying to convince him is he gets up a little bit and gets thrown in a prision that would be on easy mode compared to that. So he escapes grabs that suit again and this time there's no Martha and there's no crisis to save superman. And unlike superman batman has a history of killing. And he was already about to at the end of batman vs superman. Even in injustice they took away supermans restraint and he still got beat by batman. Even when they work together superman is seen as the leader of justice leage by the public but batman is using his genius and calling the shots. Then in doom it shows it again in a diffrent way. When Wonderwomen gets mad and accuses him batman basically says yeah were going to have a plan for that. We're not going to let mini dictators run around with superpowers if you guys go crazy. Which the premise wasn't if he has enough time it was he always has a plan. When they try to vote him off in the comic he basically says I'm batman I started this, you wouldn't be winning period if I didn't tell you where to go who to hit and how hard to hit them.

[@CubeGodd]

I liked the movie but I definitely didn't take it as most people with the whole 'oh man batman beat superman!' idea, more of superman never wanted to lay a finger on batman and batman just kept trying to kill him the entire time instead of listening. Never seen Injustice but I mean honestly if we're talking about all canon versions of Superman that ever existed... The guy can literally fly into the sun and become an unlimited god, willing people out of existence (Superman Prime I think) with mere thoughts. This is the main reason why any version of Goku, Batman or anything to ever exist in any universe could never stand a chance against Superman. The only way to beat S.P. is to extinguish the sun, killing the entire Earth. You'd need a villain of massive proportions that can destroy a star (without making it supernova, since the radiation would still power Superman) to ever defeat that canonical version of Superman.

[@superdoran6396]

@@CubeGodd injustice is pretty good. It's basically the joker kills Lois lane which at that point is superman wife and he goes off the deep end becoming the world's dictator. With batman as a revolutionist of sorts. But superman can fly through the sun, sure at full strength, that's the problem. At full strength. But there's a big obvious rock that not only In the movie the comics as well, the world's greatest detective is going to utilize. And there's not like there was anything in the movie pointing to superman holding back. I mean he thinks batman is this visious killer and he's going to withhold his punches? I don't think so. With that green rock in his face he is about as normal as a 1950s boxer and we both saw how that went down against batman. Maybe if batman wasn't prepared, didn't have his krytonite suit, and for whatever reason despite his character did no research then yeah superman would win. But even in injustice with superman no longer bound by his morals not holding anything back, even frying the flashes brain with his heat rays. He still loses to batman. And it's not like I'm discounting him at all. Superman showed his power in the cartoon when he literally looked into a dudes head and with his heat vision severed his connection to his powers. Problem is batman doesn't have powers to sever. He also doesn't have a obvious weakness. You have the world's greatest detective, the world's most advanced scientist, and a master of every martial art in the world a man who considers every option to the point where he literally found every justice leagues member and had a contingency plan for them. Vs ima punch them hard. It's not hard to see who the winner would be. That's the problem with superman fan boys. "Big jock punch in face hard gonna win"XD. If fights were that simple then the ufc would simply give the belt to the biggest there without any rounds. But it's the small guy conner McGregor that has earned the double titles. And like that in real life and in fantasy it's the one that thinks through it that wins. Both in comics and in the movies.

[@CubeGodd]

​@@superdoran6396 That's exactly what I was getting at, though... you missed the entire point about him being able to just fly into the sun. Batman, no matter how much money, cannot go anywhere near the sun with his gadgets. I feel like the only reason Injustice was written that way was because of the high action content, but even in the movies he doesn't lose all control and just 'punch first ask questions later' like you assume. When Lois is murdered he turns back time in a somewhat thought out plan instead of going dumb brute mode like Injustice tried making him out to seem. The killer in Superman (1978) was a rich, highly intelligent guy that had gadgets and kryptonite just like Bruce Wayne -- Only difference is Lex Luthor knew way more about Superman on a personal level than Batman ever did; involving a plethora of weaknesses. Few big differences between Superman and Batman; one of the main ones is that Superman has actually killed his biggest rival, meanwhile the Joker is always sitting in paradise laughing 🤣

[@superdoran6396]

@@CubeGodd actually joker does die multiple times. One example is the arkam series. And turning the earth I would give to him if the flash hasn't been doing it since he was invented. They basically hit copy and paste with that it's not original or unique to superman. In fact I'd go out on a limb and say most of his powers is copy and paste. Speed that's the flashes thing. Flight and strength is Wonderwomen. Laser eyes and Bulletproof skin that's darkseid. Recharge with something symbolic and light like the sun. That's green lantern. They basically wanted a Zeus like being that couldn't be beaten and isn't afraid to show his patriotism. He also gives up nothing to be a hero unlike everyone else. Making him even less interesting. He doesn't pump money into it, his girl doesn't threaten to leave him or try to kill him heck she gets off with him being superman. And his job doesn't make it any harder nor is he in need of money. They defintly didn't pull a Spiderman with him. Even wonderwomen is out of her time period and she knows it. Causes problems for her and makes things interesting. She even lost her boyfriend thanks to her lifestyle. Not only that but his identity is a joke. I'm wearing glasses I must be someone else now. And even if superman did go back in time and kill Bruce the comics already covered that scenario. His dad would then become batman and his mom the joker. Plus it's not like batman hasn't fought time travelers before he's fought the reverse flash multiple times and has contingency plans for the real flash. Heck they wanted to kick him out of the justice league becouse someone got a hold of his plans and put each member in a death scenario with them. And batman had to save each and everyone. Including superman. I'm sorry but nothing you stated sounds good enough. The closest was his reversing time. Which batman has already dealt with, with other supervillians. Everytime i read yours it sounds like your leading up to superman having some super unique powers that is so well thought of that it's the anwser for batman. Not to mention that laughing maniac has come up with better plans then lex by far. In fact it was joker that blows up metropolis with Lois lane in it. Striking a heavier blow then lex ever could. That's right that clown blew up your heros city and superman couldn't stop him. Guess he's a bit more then a laughing maniac being pittied huh. You know how he did it? Simple with a problem the big blue boyscout couldn't punch his way out of. And that was the result. So no superman is not coming to the table with anything super thought out or unique. His solutions are always the same even in that movie. Big man punch thing hard. That's his solution and joker capilized on it to murder his entire city. Had that been Gotham or even Atlantis that bomb would of been disarmed immediatly becouse night wing or aqualad would be right there. But even when they try to hand deliver him a perfect cloned teenage version of him in young justice he breaks the boy. At least batman tried with Damian. It was probably a good thing joker exploded his pregnant wife becouse he sucks as a mentor or father. The only bad parenting he didn't employ was "wait here I'm going to get cigarettes". And trust me I was waiting for it. How to raise a teenager according to superman 101- neglect, ignore, insult. That man shouldn't be around kids period. Goes to show what he's good at. It's not mentoring the young, it's not thinking through situations if it was metropolis would be there. It's hitting things. And that's not the only way not thinking has failed him. Remeber his whole problem with magic? Yeah turned out all he needed to do was go talk to fate and he would of had runes to protect him this entire time. But no becouse he doesn't think. It was you guessed it batman who had to suggest it. Thats why everytime he fights batman in the cartoons, in the moves and comics. He flies his butt there with no plan. Mr deadbeat isn't exacly scoring a iq of 180 over here. Like I said dumb jock that only knows how to hit hard. He can copy stuff from the flash and all of them sure. But unless he's planning on going back in time and raising batman poorly I don't see him winning. Which does remind me isn't the only time he flies through the sun in the injustice video game as one of his finishers? You sure you haven't read or played it? I guess he does in the comics but he doesn't really go through it like that he basically gets close to it. Now together they make a amazing team and is pretty much unstoppable. The part of injustice where he does convince batman to join him they pretty much rule the world without trouble. Which I got to give him one thing. The evil version of superman not the zombie but the injustice emperor is amazing. He fights like superman should. You forget at times that your watching superman. It's like batman brains in superman body. But original superman beating batman no. I'm surprised he even manages to beat lex the b rate boring villian he is. Over there with the same abilities as Dr Eggman. In fact come to think of it he kind of is the Dr Eggman of villians he's even got the suit to match. All he's missing is a mustach.

[@superdoran6396]

@@CubeGodd plus tour argument kind of cancels itself out. Lex supposedly knew superman better then joker knew batman. I dont know about that since joker once was in batman mind trying to take over at one point. But let's go with it. So he knows his identity, he knows his weakness and has kryptonite, and he knows he's weak to magic. And in all these years he still lost. And unlike joker he doesn't have the excuse of being insane and believing superman somehow completes him like the joker. Yet with just the knowledge of kryptonite batman was a spartan spear away from saying goodnight superman. And it takes a single day for the joker to do what lex has always wanted and prove superman evil by forcing him to break his 1 rule. While your guy even with all that, his identity, everyone of his weaknesses couldn't do it. At least Dr Eggman had the excuse of not knowing sonic that well or his weaknesses. While lex has just as much money as Bruce Wayne, all those gadgets and all those toys what does he have to show for it? I'd argue that lex is one of the worst villians in the DC universe. Even bane can say that he did technically break batmans back and threw him in prison. But does he have any accomplishments to bring to the table? If he didn't invent and pay for the legion of doom they probably wouldn't even let him in. And you want to compare him to joker? Who has a a kill count higher then can be counted. He paralyzed the commisoners daughter, he touted and mutilated Robin and he has not only destroyed Gotham more then once, but also destroyed metropolis. This laughing clown in paradise I think you said has leveled cities. Including supermans. And even in the part of injustice where the city wasn't destroyed in that timeline let's ask ourselves who gave the joker the bomb to begin with? And what's in metropolis aside from superman? How about all of lex corps stuff. His buildings, his factories. He helped that town become a metropolis. And he hands a lunatic a bomb of that size. Real genius move. He unknowingly helped blow up his own city. The only decent thing about him is he's got a small criminal organization. But then again so does penguin. And penguin has more accomplishments with him then lex. At the end of the day your boy is no super genius. And to top it off I'm being generous by calling him b rate. Becouse technically I don't even know of I can call him a villian. At most a petty mobster. He doesn't steal from the city, he earns his money, he doesn't murder, he doesn't throw cities into chaos. He is basically there to fund other villians. So I guess he's not even really a legit mobster. He's more of a glorified sugar daddy. He even took over the flashes body removed his mask and his first words were I dont know who this is. Then he hacks into big brother and gets caught. Why did he even show up? They didn't even treat him like a dangerous intruder they basically said we know it's you lex. I'm sorry but bro the lod Sugardaddy is beyond stupid. I mean he had the flashes face and he didn't run tests to find out who he was nothing. Joker may dress like a clown but he takes the cake when it comes to being comedicly stupid. Just watching him makes you laugh. He even kidnapped wonderwomen and gave her a full on tour of his lair. Talking about and this is where the henchman sleep XD. I want to know how the lod meeting went after that. It's so weird guys they just broke in and knew where everything was. The lod location that he picked out is so obvious that even aquaman broke in there before. And he is suppose to be better then the joker......ok.

[@demonslayer-ty4hq]

Just to put it simply goku in z dies to super man in super meh goku survived being in lava so heat beams are out the window now. And he fights and a universal level now he was able to destroy planets in z at this point he could destroy universes with no issues

[@pappapandagamer7438]

You really should read the Dark knight returns and the Dark Knight Strikes back... batman beats the ever loving stupid out of superman...

[@captainhunter4064]

Kakarot and Carrot are same

[@theartisticvampire2598]

Chris-stiff-pher won't sit for this neither and lets clear this shit up i aint got no beef with him eaither. He use to be like a hero to me i even belive i had one of those 25cent stickers on my refrigerator right next to darth vader and darth mustve put a hex on him for later i feel like its my fault cause of the way i stuck him up in betweem him and lex luthor I KILLED SUPERMAN I KILLED SUPER -MAN and how ironic that i be the bad guy cryptonite the green cronic.

[@brucenicholson6159]

lol point to my crutch dragon ball theeze

[@zervant123]

Stop pausing soo much and watch the video then commentate. Friendly advice from your local Saiyanjin.

[@whatitdodave]

Not my reaction style homie.

[@Spuggky45]

@@whatitdodaveget him Dave! You rock!

[@superdoran6396]

I mean yeah I got the complicated plot line. But I didn't come in during dragon ball I started watching during z. As a kid there was a lot of stuff that also went over my head. I mean I thought killin was a kid for a good second until someone said he was a adult. You would watch good guys become bad guys become good guys ect. And unlike super no one really mentions it, it just happens. Then trunks comes. Who is from the future which is a diffrent dimension as explained later with the word timeline instead of diminsion. Which a 9 year old is not going to comprehend. So when you jump in it can be very confusing. I mean I feel bad for kids growing up with super. I'm ssjgod now.......I'm blue......it tingles? There's God's but there not really special like they were in z as anyone seems like can get there power. Another higher God thats two idiot kids decides everything. Yeah try following along with that at 9. Vs I'm superman I'm very strong with powers and the sun makes me stronger. And kryptonite is my weakness. That's a lot easier to follow. Plus your not walking in on it since it's always being remade so the back story stays in your head.

[@KurNorock]

Eh, DBZ first aired in the US in 96 when I was 16. I didn't find it complicated at all. But lets be fair here. You were 9. There is a lot of simple shit that 9 year old's don't get. And ERB are grown ass adults. If they think it is complicated, that says more about them than anything.

[@davidnl1579]

Superman won the bars

[@druzillakay945]

DC as in DC comics, it is now trash tier and attacks paying fans for inaccurate trash like batwoman.

[@ryanbaker4234]

Superman curse

[@LED816]

Melanin… not melatonin lol

[@mattroxursoul]

powered by the sun makes sense because Henry Cavill was not just a white dude, he looked sickly white. Least Christopher Reeve had a bit of a tan

[@lordapache5402]

Henry Cavill? One of the most desirable men on the planet looked "sickly" to you? You're either just a racist, or you're envious of the man. Maybe both.

[@conqueritallranzo]

Goku wins

[@vangjelvllau1951]

Dc loose dragon ball wins