Reaction to K-wiss Feeling Kazuya is BS.. Nerf Needed?

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[@TheMainManSWE]

No ill will towards K-wiss here. Being annoyed and/or disliking Kazuya is perfectly fine. It was just a fun video to look at and comment on. We all have different takes on these characters. I like to share mine :D Thanks for watching!

[@DaggerPrince]

you recently started dating again and now youre getting salty over a normally looking man supposedly being "unrealistically chad" - what happened? one of your dates turned you down cuz you werent man enough just like your girlfriend and now youre taking it out on a video game character? kinda sad really. gerald looks normal to me. maybe you should take a look at your boyfriend Geese instead and then start talking about power fantasies with all his voice lines and his body (which mind you is million times more buff than Gerald).

[@AntharTrue]

hey! Sorry about it, completey off the topic but the thing about Geralt ... There is a lot of reasons in the book why he looks like that, and thats what Developers did. Reflected his looks from the books. And its not like the scars are here randomly... all the scars on his body have a story from the books. All of them. Being ripped? Well... daily hardcore forced training doesnt leave you without muscles. As for the voice... not sure, played PL version of the game. not Eng one.

[@TheXna97]

@@DaggerPrince where did you get this copy pasta shit from lmao is too good

[@TheSilentVoid_]

It is interesting to hear your take on his rant on Kazuya as a main of Kazuya yourself... But what are you gonna do about these people shit talking K-Wiss right now?

[@slippers8000]

@@DaggerPrince wtf did i just read

[@tea_enn]

I love Kazuya, and I can understand K-wiss' POV on why Kazuya's annoying. But I just can't fathom at the fact that he plays Hwoarang LOL

[@mikeg4490]

Lol tell Kwiss all the bullshit Hwoarang has and he'll just tell you you don't know the match up. He's entitled to his opinion but...this is Hwoarang we're talking about. That's like Alisa players saying she's a technical character lmao.

[@BlaqPharaoh]

Zuya is broke rang is op u can deal with op broke characters break the game

[@mikeg4490]

@@BlaqPharaoh tf did you say?

[@athernandez666]

@@BlaqPharaoh What the 🦆?

[@whatwhy6349]

@@BlaqPharaoh this illiterate is saying kazuya is broken. Lmao literally top 20 in the tierlist at best if you play well. If you're gonna complain about kazuya. What about devil jin who is better than kazuya at every aspect? By you logic devil jin should be ban.

[@youngdizzstomach2093]

“Electrics can’t be punished annoys me” Literally has Armoured launchers And insane frames

[@dcard228]

I couldn't imagine complaining about electrics

[@bludika]

ARMORED, NO execution, HOMING, Does 1 million damage on hit, PLUS on block, Has a LONG active frame, Good Reach, INSTANT whiff recovery...."but its a high bruh"

[@oreowithurea5018]

@@bludika If not anything, please nerf it's active frame. That's most BS move in Tekken

[@bludika]

@@oreowithurea5018 yea, long active frames in addition to instant recovery makes it extremely difficult to whiff or ws punish, because if you're too fast, then you get clipped and lose half your life or more, if too slow, he already recovered and your punisher is blocked, worse your punisher is punishable on block lmao...being BOTH long active frames while armored plus the ridiculously fast whiff recovery is just retarded as hell.

[@poultriarchy]

I will never understand people who compare electrics to backlash. Lest we forget backlash is reactable and comes out of a stance that further telegraphs it and can even be punished if you hit the PC with a fast recovering option Meanwhile electric completely unreactable with no prior telegraph Backlash got some whack properties but seriously?

[@HoDoBoDo]

I find Hwoarang more annoying than Kazuya tbh.

[@MauricioFernando17]

Thank you I agree

[@HoDoBoDo]

@@MauricioFernando17 I don't even main Kazuya, and I still find Kazuya easier to go against than Hwoarang, but yh. Thank you for agreeing.

[@supersaudisiraj3462]

@@HoDoBoDo it’s just a matter of opinion and each player’s experience

[@shadowofthenorthstar989]

Same and I dont even play Kazuya

[@HoDoBoDo]

@@shadowofthenorthstar989 Fax

[@Anivrat1]

I'll gladly fight Kazuya over Hworang Any day any time any timeline. I would probably respect Kazuya player too but Hworang nah fam he masherrrr

[@1991jj]

Hwo is easier once you know the matchup. Kaz in elite level hands is a problem. Still not as busted as Kwiss claims though he needs to chill lol

[@CDodger24]

The high level competition got to him LMAO

[@theskywong]

That is correct

[@yakisoba1816]

Hwo is definitely an easier match up for me but id rather fight kazuya than hwo because how much of a prick character hwo is.

[@VandanaSingh-jk9pd]

Yeah

[@estoylaroca]

K-Wiss is probably the last person I want to hear about character BS. Just because he likes to BLOW SHIT OUT OF PROPORTION, and dismisses most of the BS that his main has. Saying Kazuya is overpowered, to me, has the same pepega brain, as people who are saying Kazuya is "weak" or underpowered. Because let's be honest, every character has some BS move. Like, is Gigas an OVERPOWERED BS character just because he has a huge 50/50 with his rage drive? The difference is the AMOUNT of BS moves that a character has. Kazuya has a few, but fuck me does Hwo have a fuck ton. At this point, I just think that he's shitting on every other character so that all the attention is towards against the other character. But no amount of bullshit can hide the bullshit of Hwo.

[@bluefacebaby4167]

>Gigas RD Just jump and there you go.

[@littylit444]

Lmao, okay, but your usage of Gigas' RD is such a silly comparator to address your 50/50 argument 😂

[@chingchenghanji643]

@@bluefacebaby4167 wait you can just jump when he uses RD? I don’t have much gigas match experience sorry

[@bluefacebaby4167]

@@chingchenghanji643 when he has rage, just backdash and start jumping. The rage stun won't hit you.

[@joshuaxiong8377]

he has mentioned and acknowledge hwoa BS and general tekken BS in other videos. in this video, he's most likely venting venting though. imo, he just struggles against good mishima players.

[@neopolitan9156]

Who honestly thought it was a good idea to give hwo somebody who does Taekwondo the throw game of a fucking wrestler

[@ChizeSOI]

I mean its not like Taekwondo doesn't have throws and takedowns, the real issue is giving a character that works around completely overwhelming your opponent with fast lows, mids and long uninteruptable strings a full set of grabs.

[@wealthforthecommoners3146]

@@ChizeSOI no you're not gonna be grabbing anybody in taekwondo actually

[@tousawa808]

Better grab game than ganryu, who is a...sumo wrestler.

[@justinli826]

@@wealthforthecommoners3146 Fact. Ignoring the game stuff, I did taekwondo basically to black belt (technically red because black was too expensive dam) and I can't even remember ever using my hands for anything besides patterns. Even for sparring they teach you to just hop around actually, not to block with your arms. Not once did they ever teach me a throw, instead I did judo separately.

[@Lbdataz1469]

@@ChizeSOI Tell me you've never trained in any martial arts without telling me you've never trained in any martial arts.

[@hehen00b20]

Man if you remove/nerf the moves kwiss talked about, can you imagine what kazuya would be like? Pretty much Yamcha of the tekken lol.

[@patryksaganowski44]

If they nerf kaz he will be as weak as in T6 :3 Sooo... removing all female characters (nah im not gay), will be more fair than nerfing Kaz

[@Bozzy765]

He be worse than Yamcha

[@ninjutsuninja5035]

@@patryksaganowski44 Sounds gay to me

[@maddinkn]

But he wants a 15(?) frame launcher for Hwo. If I'm not mistaken. Because everyone has it and it is a weakness.

[@stealiestag4204]

@@patryksaganowski44 exactly what gay person would say

[@runningwild9798]

Imagine a Hwo player complaining about a character being BS...

[@m4rcin847]

Yea, those 3 bar launching power crush spamming Howarangs. On the other hand losing half of your life after wrong guess is pretty annoying.

[@veemo7954]

@@m4rcin847 this holds true for hwo

[@thoraero]

Actually I have seen many hwo did that.

[@bludika]

@@m4rcin847 good luck trying to whiff punish or ws punish backlash on a less than perfect connection lol...but we know all the Hwoarang mains will reply with "BUT ITS A HIGH BRUH"

[@spawnedagony]

This.

[@SapSapirot]

K-Wiss is a talented player - and i know that TMM means no ill will towards K-wiss but he is to be frank: a total ignoramus when it comes to game balance. All of his hot takes are ridiculously short sighted and not thought through at all. You should honestly just ignore anything he says about balance, and just watch him play tournaments, because that's the only thing he's really good for.

[@abdullahdaone]

His main is Hwoarang so anything he says is irrelevant

[@TerrelleCheers1]

K-wiss: *10 WINS* "Solid Kaz player 👌" Opponent: *literally wins 2 games* "Kazuya needs to be nerfed asap! *Punish* "He's such a masher"

[@seryip]

Isn't someone constantly pressing buttons when he is minus a masher? This guy almost always challenges, that's just his playstyle. And calling someone a masher in this context has nothing to do with evaluating how good he is. Though if all of Kwiss' nerf suggestions were brought to the game somehow, kaz would just not be able to hit people staying grounded with anything that's not meme like Db3

[@MrNonzi]

Literally describing kazuya as hes ranting on geralt. amogus

[@Pokechao]

*AMONG US*

[@Grasuke]

Even more like geese tbh. Just a mainman Moment hahaha

[@creativedegree]

It's pretty weird the complaints of Geralt when all his points could be applied to Kazuya lol

[@m4rcin847]

Exactly

[@phlixcarbon]

Except the height and hair. Kazuya is 5"8 or 173cm iirc.

[@oreowithurea5018]

@@phlixcarbon isn't Kazuya at least 180cm ?

[@maddinkn]

Could be. So your point is? Don't forget he plays the game for a long time.

[@BullyInZeHouse2]

@@phlixcarbon i remember him being called 5 11. So is jin

[@codenameidk206]

The thing with Kazuya's 50/50 mix up is that this can be dealt by sidewalking to his weak side. The only problem with that would be is that his electric can be tracked as TMM stated. However most of his other moves like hellsweep can be sidewalked and punished. I think k wiss is just emotionally stressed out after that tournament loss, and he needs break.

[@joshbeverly4290]

Sidewalking left is completely countered by doing even the smallest of wavedash/regular dash forward to realign. With how shitty movement is in this game any form of realign makes everything he does track, and not to mention he no longer has to commit to any risk to counter stepping because he can wavedash into ws1+2.

[@UltimateBallaPOM]

This was before he went to CEO

[@codenameidk206]

@@UltimateBallaPOM Oh you are right. My bad.

[@codenameidk206]

@@joshbeverly4290 I think its all about the timing to avoid that realignment, which can be done by practice.

[@pizzapizza6322]

There are so many things in this game that "can be dealt by sidestepping/waking to the weak side" but then you just get hit with random shit anyway that shouldn't have any tracking. The EWGF is just worse than some other moves in this regard, imo. The pseudo homing electrics are so annoying but at the same time that could be partially the issue that movement in Tekken 7 isn't as good as it could be either.

[@Shibu_PL]

Honestly people would not complain about Kazuya if he wasn't so popular online. It's like with Scorpion in MK11 - he has some annoying tools but you can't say that he is boosted because of his gameplay flaws. Aaand everyone hates him anyway simply because you see him all the time online xd

[@BearP0lar]

Isn’t Scorpion actually top tier in MK11 though? I remember people talking about his combo damage being too high. Sorry if I’m wrong, I don’t play MK.

[@michaelmurray6577]

In mkx I was just nutting on everyone with scorpion, just overall good character and way too easy. He was bullshit

[@Shibu_PL]

@@BearP0lar No, he's a strong mid tier at best. He has some good stuff (very fast teleport, chip damage, good unbreakable combo damage) but he is very unsafe and you always have to risk while using him (not to mention he can't zone at all). He definitely requires a lot of skill on higher levels (especially with his teleport cancels).

[@thelegion4799]

Scorpion, subzero and liu kang are cancer on mk11 lol

[@BearP0lar]

@@Shibu_PL oh ok, Ty for the correction

[@senseipl5455]

Coming from a hwoarang player got me laughing cause hwoarang is one of the reasons i stopped playing tekken 7

[@senseipl5455]

@Jerryco dondon ISIP how about get a life kid " lmao "

[@TheJayCoconut]

The times I've gotten beat by Kazuya was when the opponent had stronger fundamentals than me. I feel really impressed when they make it virtually impossible to use Nina's strings. When I get beat by Hwoarang, I feel they button pressed me to death. But I get it that Hwoarang's gameplay is to be aggressive since I main Nina (who also has a reputation for being cheesy).

[@grandpulse7970]

You have a slice of cake as your pfp. Anything you say is automatically invalid by default

[@TheJayCoconut]

@@grandpulse7970 It is poisonous and hides a pistol in it. So it is a badass cake.

[@whatwhy6349]

@@TheJayCoconut i agree. The cake is indeed badass

[@devonhajduk9107]

@@TheJayCoconut Let him KNOW

[@spawnedagony]

Imagine a HWO player player saying Kazuya needs a nerf.

[@supersaudisiraj3462]

I know the day of reckoning is approaching if I don’t hear “What’s up guys, MainManSwe here”

[@whogotcheese9002]

I think he's still dazzzed from that beating from Keizer,poor lad 🤭

[@mrvakruha255]

This rant was before that so i guess u are wrong

[@Severnex]

Objection! I like how he's like "I don't understand why people get offended when you talk about their characters" and then "he's such a masher.... He's such a button presser" which I believe is a comment about the player.

[@kain1144]

I'm so glad you posted this, thank you dear sir... kWiss really talked too much BS

[@youngdizzstomach2093]

K wiss literally plays one of the most braindead and op characters and has a problem with kazuya 🤨

[@ryzen8039]

Hwo not op not competitively anyway

[@Theterminato2013]

Does season 3 DLC characters, Kunimitsu, Alisa, ring a bell?

[@youngdizzstomach2093]

@@ryzen8039 wow man your crazy

[@HououinKyouma.]

@@youngdizzstomach2093 hwo is DEFINITELY not op, but he plays himself. You dont need to be good to win with him but your take is definitely a scrub outlook

[@youngdizzstomach2093]

@@HououinKyouma. So Plus frames armoured launchers mixups good sidesteps or bad and that makes it a scrub outlook 💀 foh

[@gscan235]

What I came for: Commentary on someone complaining about Kazuya What I got: Mainman getting angry over Geralt 10/10 video

[@djrabang1879]

Best solid snake impression I’ve ever encountered.

[@autisticman1199]

Can we make a petition to saw one of hroweng leg?

[@autisticman1199]

@Jerryco dondon ISIP Beating a dead person doesn't feel good. A cripple on the other hand..

[@matejstemberk8110]

Dude whoarang launches you with b3 before you even stand up lol

[@HououinKyouma.]

Shinji? W pfp

[@Ahmad-vc7il]

Just came home drunk and died laughing, hope i won't wake up with Gigas on top of me

[@ShadowedAgony]

Expectation: discussion about balance Reality: Gigas rape fantasy.

[@erodrig3]

The issue i have with K-Wiss is he always criticizes his opponents and rarely says anything positive about them. You can be competitive while being respectful of your oppenents.

[@finnt4937]

Exactly my opinion, i like his commentary in tournaments actually, but even there he is… just a little bit too… i dont know… negativ and it even comes across as arrogant sometimes. But you are totally right, he trashes his opponents 10 times more then he is praising them for something

[@finnt4937]

I mean the quote alone „if you think about commenting dont… cause i probably will roast you in the comment section … ˋlaughsˋ (in my opinion a bit arrogantly about that thought)

[@AbstractReplayer]

Literally last month and prior: "man Kazuya is such an honest character" 2021+: "bro Kazuya is so buff bro"

[@Sizifus]

Boy, if he thinks Gerald is an 8 year old's idea of a Chad, I wonder how he'd describe Fakhruman? Dude seems to have been designed 100% based on that Gigachad meme, lmao

[@mihailcirlig8187]

I think Kazuya is annoying only for its vortex, and it needs to be done right and can be hard countered by a sidestep left. His ff4 is kinda dumb but in a game like tekken 7 with all the bullshit characters it has its not a cancer move in any means. They should keep the whiff recovery but remove or lighten its tracking atleast, so people who sidestep it doesn't get clipped and lauched and they can punish it, maybe not with a launch themselves but a 12f/13f for sure so it can be less spammable BUT your opponents needs to commit to it and try so sidestap. He was annoyed also by his ws1+2 and I think its a fine move, almost no one uses it and doing it after a wavedash is so extremely hard that it shouldn't be a topic for complaint. Db4 hitting grounded I don't get why its bad becuase its just a tool you have, for grounded opponents you have ff4 which is way more powerful. Kazuya is strong but atleast you can do something with him, against hwoarang for example at some point you have to guess 50/50 from a -10 lightning fast mid launcher or an hellsweep, and seeing his mid launcher does abnormous damage it is a very good 50/50. All characters have bullshit but kazuya atleast needs to have knowledge and movement to play it right and not like an asuka unga unga etc. Why not whine about asuka anna or nina which are way more fucking annoying online? From a competitive point of view kazuya is stronger I think but the majority plays amateur so I will count that. I wrote like shit but I just vomited all it was on my mind lol

[@Ravemaster620]

He complains about Asuka a lot too. From watching his videos, it seems like he's complained more about her than Kazuya but I don't watch his streams so there's that to account for

[@jaywalker3553]

Anna and Nina are at the fucking top of my list man holy shit do they have spammers for moves 🤬🤬🤬

[@RandomGameClips27]

@@Ravemaster620 tbf Asuka is 100x times more cancer than Kazuya. Her parry alone is the most scruppiest move you can imagine

[@ev5837]

@@RandomGameClips27 if you're getting killed by her parry then you're a green rank. Just bait it

[@Ravemaster620]

@@RandomGameClips27 Not saying her parry isn't annoying and scrubby at all. I use her, it's abusable as all sin. But baiting it or using elbows/knees is the way to go

[@HellZlinksy]

Also K-wiss after CEO: lucky Chloe is bullshit, Nerf needed.

[@DekemaStokes]

Love the fact he goes hard for his character and explaining his uniqueness but when it came to Steve and his uniqueness that went out the window to the point Steve was nerf due to his whining

[@andyboots_acta7838]

Dude calls Gerald a “Chad power fantasy” but he plays Kazuya (pecs the size of tits, power complex, scars, glowing eye for fuck’s sake) and Marduk.... the Chadiest of all Chads. C’mon man lolol. I get that it’s trendy to shit on popular games, but at least remember the characters you play and hit it from a different angle lol. It’s not a problem for me, but I couldn’t help but notice while he was going off lol

[@IcanFlame777]

Yeah exactly what I was thinking. Whole Tekken is just chads fighting eachother xD

[@tousawa808]

But how was he shitting on other games? He literally just gave his opinion that he didn't like Gerald as a character because of ''his'' reasons. The fact you get offended by it says more about you than him.

[@hockeyfan145]

TMM sounded quite insecure over a video game character. Probably upset he's pretty much the exact opposite of Geralt in terms of looks.

[@hockeyfan145]

@@tousawa808 He was pointing out TMM's hypocrisy, genius.

[@alidagreat32]

I have no problem with Kazuya I know how to play him but I don't think people realize how unsafe Kazuya's hell sweep is lol it is very high risk high reward lol I actually look forward to fighting him ijs

[@leper763]

both are very bullshit, vortexes is tekken is somehow infintely worse then in mk or something

[@G-R-IE-IE-D]

@alidagreat I agree if you do the optimal punish with your character and get to the wall youre pretty much set up to win the game with how the damage is set up in Tekken 7

[@ScientologyHunter2]

yeah but ducking against kazuya is deadly and the tracking on his electric is bs making sidestepping super dangerous as well...it´s also not reactable so you have to read him

[@TheKevkevkevkev]

Hwo is much more annoying to play against. Each character is annoying in their own way but at least Kazuya feels like he earns each hit.

[@ashanirpaneer]

20:38 Lmao, that's typical K-Wiss. That's his typical attitude towards literally every opponent, who's not a known name. A very toxic negative attitude and when I realized this is a constant through all his videos, I stopped watching him for good. Pretty sure he won't respect Kaizur either and talk complete shit if the matches played out exactly how it did in CEO, but he was just a random online player nobody knew about.

[@Section8dc]

Same, I stopped watching him when he kept trashing a Law player who was being perfectly respectful and out playing him with poking and spacing

[@rayfromcreo7001]

@@Section8dc exactly same thing happened with me. It was so bad. So much salt while losing fairly. SMH

[@dighad3824]

tmm talked about geralt more than k-wiss talked about kazuya

[@darkrugi3831]

I play Jin this days and Kazuya is the character that I can read the most. Thats why I dont get the hate about Kazuya

[@LUKADAWGG]

Agree with TMM I think they should just nerf electric tracking that shit is too much sometimes

[@LUKADAWGG]

Maybe also the recovery a tiny bit

[@ocamco]

he seems to hate a character or think a character is BS every other week, welcome to tekken bro u play hwoarang

[@Sirvanic]

Mainman plays almost strictly huge bodybuilder squared jaw alpha male characters with very powerful attack animations and sound effects. I see a power fantasy pattern here 😆

[@gurusingh3402]

The idiot was describing himself with all those insults. How can someone be so unaware of himself?

[@Its_PizzaTime]

That Kazuya was definitely not a masher at all. I find it's a decent strategy to be a bit aggressive with jabs against Hwoarang so he doesn't get any momentum with his whirlwind of attacks.

[@oreowithurea5018]

I felt like he was complaining too much to the point where it was quite annoying. I mean he once compared Kazuya ws1+2 to a generic df1, I myself believe that Electrics are bit busted in s4 but his constant whining. I mean you complaining about how Kazuya excels at oki which he's supposed to be good at but what about Hworang having complete throw game with BS oki for no reason?

[@Guitar-Dog]

Electrics are as busted as backlash 😂

[@Fallconn2]

more busted than backlash if we being real

[@1991jj]

He's constantly whining it's annoying lol. He's just mad his loyalty to hwo means he gotta lose offlines haha

[@Fallconn2]

people are allowed to dislike characters lmao and it’s not like he’s complaining about shit that isn’t good on kazuya like a scrub. most of his criticisms are valid

[@xxCROMIZOIDxx]

Also comparing WS1+2 to generic DF1, like wtf. People forget you need godlike execution and hundreds of hours in order to play Kaz to his max. Meanwhile with Hwoarang you can just press 3 and 4 get some shit done.

[@lightning9552]

K-wiss cries about every single tekken character when he plays hworang.. he's the epitome of the personality that the universe shouldn't allow to be goo at the game. great player, trash personality.

[@Grasuke]

thats so true, i enjoyed watching K-wiss for a very long time, but lately he seems to be bitching around about everything. He kinda has a very childish behavior sadly.

[@lightning9552]

@@Grasuke the thing is that I am OK with bitching on stream, I just cannot stand him bitching while playing HWORANG out of all characters like hollyyyyy the hypocrisy

[@persondavis1294]

I think its a bit harsh to say someone has a trash personality over a video game even if you find it hypocritical.

[@lightning9552]

@@persondavis1294 kinda true, but you can clearly see how he lost touch woth reality tbh...

[@fenggula7890]

@@lightning9552 There is nothing wrong with Hworang though lmao. I don't understand Hwo haters, the same way that I don't understand Kaz haters. THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL HYPOCRISY lol. FYI - I don't main those characters.

[@raidennc]

This Kazuya player is a "masher" in the sense that he challenges a lot at negative frames, not that he is "bad". Good players might choose to challenge a lot as well. Those things aren't mutually exclusive.. That goes for this player for sure. He is good AND he challenges a lot. I don't always agree w/ TMM, but there were some reasonable takes here.

[@mindspacegaming]

Thank you, I know I wasn’t the only one agreeing with Kwiss on the need for this guy to mash back to instantly take his turn back. Great movement though👌🏽

[@SalvadorSTMZ]

Kazuya: around 10 plus on block moves. Hwoarang: 1 billion plus frame moves. Press any button to win.

[@ObzDoesFighting]

Almost at 200k!

[@danieldevera4122]

I will sub with my three accounts to reach that 200k

[@rocknroland1]

When it reaches 200k I’m gonna type 200k Doryas in the comments. I’m not. I’m lying.

[@kgjhg4897]

K-piss complaining about kazuya when he is playing the most bs and spammable character lmao

[@Bozzy765]

Fr

[@idlebruh4001]

when he started talkin like gerald i was rollin lmfao ive never even played the witcher but that yelling was just too funny

[@BLN_Snake]

Nerf Hwoarang before Kazuya, how bout that

[@thoraero]

I believe he's gonna be reworked in T8. Hwo is too bs.

[@oreowithurea5018]

@@thoraero He's same from T3. I don't think they're gonna change him out of nowhere in T8

[@blahblahgdp]

i think k-wiss should just play kazuya for a while EDit: I also see people say the tracking on EWGF is really strong. Anybody have video proof? I cant find any and im not sure if its good tracking or if the mishima player is dashing forward to offset the side step Edit 2: I'm very confused on the hate on witcher fans or Geralt. You went on to talk about why are people so offended but you're literally attacking people for liking Geralt.. 23:36 Just like my dad. Passes off attacks as just a subtle statement. incredible

[@FuryLima]

The move still have a big tracking, but the dash isn't a big of a deal, because it requires a precise step to avoid the EWGF on the proper timing, if you decide to side walk for avoiding the 50/50 is where it's tricky, decide between getting KND'd to death or combo'ed to death

[@oreowithurea5018]

You can literally watch patch notes of S2 to confirm that Electrics did receive tracking buffs

[@SzyszuPL]

I like how the narrative changed from talking about Kazuya to ranting Geralt from Wticher xD

[@brotanband]

It's like coming to a fist fight with an SMG and complaying that people try to dodge your shots

[@Doro4u]

He is not talking about the mental road u have to pass to learn a character like Kazuya... To get actually good with Kazuya and get amazing wavedashes so your vortex becomes so called "overpowered" takes so much effort and endurance... And what about all the controllers you fuck up to learn his pewgf. I mean look at plantedmedusa he is playing with a wrist glove and the moment I actually got a bit better with Kazuya I now completely understand why he does that lol. It's insane how much u have to think mentally positive forward with that character to actually get good. Especially if u compare it to all the potential cheese characters in this game, where u can 60/40 win games on cheese and braindead flowcharts. Sometimes I really think Kwiss thinks this game resolves around him and then he gets in to this whining mindset again. Anyway he is still 100 times the better player than I will ever be...

[@blahblahgdp]

you're not wrong though. bringing out kazuya's highest potential is extremely difficult and energy consuming. being able to wavedash and selectively choose to do ws or electric out of it or just stop and then whiff punish with an electric is suuuuper hard.

[@leper763]

wavedash ff3 and hellsweep lol

[@mandingo1210]

He plays hworang stop the cap his character is good

[@Flash44om]

@@leper763 ye it wavedash into ff3 or hellsweep may work in green ranks or red maybe even purple but you won't do that once you hit higher ranks lol or do it and get clapped

[@FuryLima]

Theres a difference between being an elitist Mishima player, and a new player, I mean doing all of the wavus to set up perfectly for the 50/50 is just dancing imo, after every Kaz's knockdowns you just have to do 2 wave dashes to set up your 50/50 on the opponent get up, it's not even a thing to wavu like a crazy madman except to show you can do it, the real part is that every one can do hellsweeps and EWGF, and countering both of those with side step requires alot more fundamentals and timings than the Kazuya doing it Talking of the PEWGF is just something to forget, tell me that green ranks players even knows the existence of this attack being 1 frame faster, I never seen anyone using to punish -13 stuff, the only stuff I regularly saw recently is the real hard utility of the move, doing the PEWGF combo on CH df2 and that's it, it's not even something to learn when you pick up Kaz at 1st, you just have to learn a regular EWGF it will do it's magic for you

[@GeZz.]

99% of the talk is about witcher and being a chad 1% is about Kazuya. LOL

[@jiiiigsaw]

un-fun when you can't spam strings haha, I remember kwiss when he was on ps4 I used to meet him ranked and he was that annoying yellow bar next level spammer,, and once and a while I got good connection and then I kicked his ass.. hate mails where sent hahah. this was when Overlord rank was the shit. but this kid has leveld up now hes good

[@The_Buff_Guy]

If you’re complaining about kazuya, that’s it. We’ve officially hit the point of no return. NO character is “fair”. If you’re going to literally knock the most legitimate character in the franchise, you’re nuts and nothing in the game will ever satisfy you.

[@FuryLima]

Saying that there's no fair character is also BS, I think Dragunov is the fairer character in the game right now

[@The_Buff_Guy]

@@FuryLima you misunderstood my comment. I didn’t say it like no character is fair. I meant if you don’t even think kazuya is fair, then no character is fair. There’s no pleasing people like k-wiss.

[@FuryLima]

@@The_Buff_Guy I dont defend Kwiss at all, but I do agree on some points he has when talking about Kaz, and I dont see where hellsweep and EWGF are fair moves conpared to Dragunov moveset for example

[@HououinKyouma.]

@@FuryLima drag is definitely not fair. But he isnt super cheap either.

[@julianrx7]

u guys realize that their are chars in the game like shaheen who doesnt have any Bs except fcking slide. shaheen is literally a barebone tekken char u cant get more "honest" as that

[@infinitearcana3785]

dude I love your content, imo no one analyzes things more objectively than you in the community.

[@hamzahax]

I think you should make a video about Hwoarang TMM

[@JusticeDankula]

The ltg of tekken. happy to see him get humbled at ceo ... he should stick to online tekken KEKW

[@AfroKing.]

Don't compare him to ltg like bruh

[@orbglorb-zingalorg]

@@AfroKing. yeah ur right, ltg is way less annoying somehow

[@MAZZLE.MCFAZZLE]

CmonBruh

[@ripzy7671]

Top 15 isn’t being humbled. It’s very impressive tbh

[@AfroKing.]

@@orbglorb-zingalorg I know you're being facetious, but I'm still gonna have to give a hard disagree

[@southrodney]

I find Kazuya is definately not the honest paladin you make him out to be MainMan, you get knocked down once by any of Kaz's moves and then you get to wake up into FF3 or Hellsweep and the fun starts all over again. But yeah Kazuya is a soup kitchen saint compared Hwo LMAO. In a game with 5000 bullshit moves I think backlash is easily top 3. I really do find Kaz obnoxious but his counterplay is pretty obvious when electric doesn't track 90 degrees.

[@omega9555]

Main man definently does try to make him seem easier and more honest then he is, I mean he is a 50/50 type character so it makes sense he's a little dirty. But damn Hwo is mash city . I gotta say though if you Learn the match up both characters have major flaws and are reasonable to deal with. (Coming from a kazuya main)

[@Guitar-Dog]

Back lash is homing, it tracks about 200 degrees 😂

[@IvanOrdell]

Countering and learning how to counter Kaz is a million times easier than Hwo lmao. Hwo is bullshit personified. And only great players can utilize Kaz to the point where he's annoying.

[@TheXna97]

@@Guitar-Dog and has armor

[@hehen00b20]

Yeah uh... Idk side roll so you don't end up eating ff3 or hellsweep after a knockdown? I mean even then the chances are that you'll eat the first kick of sweep but that does nothing if you're trying to roll over.

[@painandpyro]

I'm sure Kwiss wouldn't mind recording a legitimate video or even having a light debate with you. Couple things I wanted to try to clear up in the meantime: A) I dont think he's saying that Kazuya is overpowered, but just annoying to play against, because he requires one knockdown to then effectively control the rest pf the match, sort of like Bryan at the wall. Hwoarang is annoying too, but Kwiss feels like you at least get to disengage and then try again, and aren't stuck for the rest of the round B) when he says "mashing," I don't think he's referring to people spazzing out, but rather just always attacking when at a disadvantage C) and also the way you were talking Gerald is how I feel about Kazuya 😄

[@SleeplessFailure]

I just started playing Kazuya as a beginner I had no idea he was this strong

[@Guitar-Dog]

I think a Hwo player complaining about anyone is funny. He mentions how EWGF is in whiff punishable. Like backlash 😂

[@FuryLima]

At least backlash is kinda telegraphed and way more readable that EWGF spam, Im not even a Hwoarang main, but I can react to duck backlash I can't even react to a dash EWGF since it can be anything else

[@Guitar-Dog]

@@FuryLima you can react to backlash? Not expect it becuase of the stance change?

[@FuryLima]

@@Guitar-Dog Both of em, backlash is i27 tho and its pretty easy to duck on reaction if your not pressing buttons obviously, thats where backlash excells at, people want they turn back vs Hwoarang, but theres alot of holes in his gameplan to take it back, besides challenging backlash potentiality

[@solotopp]

Everyone has said it but I'm gonna say it too. I don't mind going up against Kaz, like ever. The game plan with him is pretty clear. Hworang I def hate though. Not once have I enjoyed playing against Hworang.

[@AshishAroraa]

As a hwo player, I love playing against Hwoas but kazuyas are harder for me to fight. Getting hellsweeped out of no where sucks and i have to get up from the ground immediately or i am gonna eat a sweep kick. Kazuya's movelist is short but more effective than hwoa's.

[@ScientologyHunter2]

I think they´re both obnoxious to fight online...punishing those two online is hard af...and since seemingly everyone nowadays can do the most damaging execution heavy combos (probably because they´re cheating) it feels like they can fuck up multiple times in a round but still erase your life with one wrong read

[@Megelos]

why the fuck is mainman talking about geralt for 5 minutes? lmao Also, Geralt is literally a mutant, he is the equivalent of a dude on the GYM taking steroids, he has no emotions due to the witcher transformation and the scars is because he hunts monsters for a living. The fact that he is the way he looks makes sense within the context of the game, that's why there are characters that could be like him, but isn't.

[@manvendrasinghrawat2492]

A character who can mash is your main and you trash talk to kazuya who is most basic character. Even hypocrisy has limits.

[@KrayKenshin]

Some people are habitual losers. I can understand why they don't understand why losing would make you emotional.

[@sparfRF]

The tangents in this were too good lmao

[@leonard9624]

Haha the part about geralt i literally laughed out loud to that. I know a lot of women who would rage at the words you said.

[@2phonewick]

Calling a kazuya a masher while using a character infamous for mashing lol.

[@FunkVT]

It seems so many people think that since you guys have differing opinions on characters that you must hate each other for some reason. K-wiss also thinks Hwoarang has bullshit too, i think people just need to calm down

[@Ravemaster620]

Welcome to modern day people, my guy

[@FunkVT]

@@Ravemaster620 truefacts

[@kurayamaking6425]

Thank you, I've been also confused on why they hate Kwiss when he shit talks himself and character? I mean, please separate the character from the person.

[@ShadowDancer_]

Nice pfp of Kazuya

[@oreowithurea5018]

Yea but I don't like how K wiss constantly downplay Backlash

[@ladrellhart2063]

That song is also on soul calibur 6

[@VasiliyLim]

Great vid as always! not expecting this to be read, but... for the algorithm anyway! nice take on Geralt (I think it is pronounced with [g], not [dzh]) and Snake) haven't played withcher 3 myself, never had such an impression. might do with the difference in localization. I heard that the best voiceover is in Polish, some merits to English dubbing (or localizaiton, not sure, maybe, I've heard that some jokes were better translated in English than in Russian), but the Russian voiceover is more popular where I live, and Geralt does not sound overly chad-like (or like Snake). Anyway, maybe changing localization might help you to get over this image :) And I never thought of David Hayter's Snake voice like something too manly. He always sounded like a heavy smoker, tired, broken soldier to me. Negan on the other hand has a very chad voice in my opinion :) And it's better to read Andrzej Sapkowski's books beforehand (very nicely written). Really helps to not care about presentation of the characters in the game :)

[@TerrelleCheers1]

Mainman said did K-wiss have a good run!? 😂😂😂😂

[@jahmilly937]

K wiss plays the most brain dead lab character in the game and he complains about kazuya ??

[@nogoofies5099]

Hwoarang? Brain Dead? You can’t be serious

[@genzo454]

bro, Negan, Fahk, and Leroy are much less brain intensive, for sure. Hwo is no big brain char, but he isn't the easiest

[@nogoofies5099]

Half the people who say Hwoarang is brain dead probably couldn’t accurately play him if they tried

[@nogoofies5099]

@Jerryco dondon ISIP Or I know the difference between a character actually being very good and one who’s only good when you don’t lab him💀

[@kidtrunkz14]

@@nogoofies5099 facts lol

[@krisztoth8475]

20:38 Did he really say that as a Hwo player?

[@KobesPilot]

Classic salty kwiss KEKW

[@LauritsTTCampen]

Have you considered watching the grand final between Arslan Ash and Anakin? both did really well and it became a much more hyped match than last time, comapred Evo 2019

[@StarVerix]

Lol why did I think they were talking about smash kazuya before I clicked on the video

[@JonanTS]

I'm a Lei main, I laughed out loud when he said this kaz was mashing lmfao

[@hybridassassin563]

I fought my first Marduk, worst time ever. I had to watch my replays after and lab him then realize he's still scary.

[@tier3290]

Hwo main annoyed by a masher wow

[@yeah5874]

Title- reacting to Kwiss First 2 minutes-sexual fantasies about Gigas

[@bluelion7342]

I don’t think Kaz is bull shit. His 50/50 is a bit obnoxious but the risk reward is about the same. There are more BS characters that should be nerfed. Like Akuma. THey should jus limit Akuma to one meter not 2

[@leper763]

akuma actually takes skill, 50/50 is not hard

[@leper763]

people rarely do the hard stuff with mishimas anyways

[@adamusso_tk]

Complains about Kazuya …. - plays Hwoarang 😳

[@Shock420]

I'm sorry but anyone that uses Hwo has no right to complain about any other character

[@Hi_itsRaph]

I like playing against kazuya cus he one of the few characters i know all his moves😂 but yeh kaz is strong 100%

[@DaggerPrince]

christmas came early this year. lets get another dose of drama

[@FlowingEdge-]

Talkin about someone’s lack of recognition when you have 9 subs on KZbin is crazy.

[@24bison]

@@FlowingEdge- I swear this guy's crazy, look at his comments

[@SirBranDon24]

5:38 main man getting war like flashbacks lol

[@rhtr.]

ahhhh salt Lords - K-Wiss and TMM 🧂

[@pawepawlak9067]

Strong words for someone who plays Hworang ...

[@RevealVelocity]

i think you should give the books a read or listen to the audio books, i think peter kenny has the best geralt voice hands down he does an excelent job on the acting

[@LyjahRaps]

K-Wiss, a hwo player, talks trash on Kazuya? I’m crying.

[@zachmac3824]

There actually is a very good reason to start arguments in your own chat! Algorithm loves that shit apparently. You should try it 😉