REACTION to LOONA (이달의 소녀) - PTT (PAINT THE TOWN) MV

[@ActuallyAnanya]

Hey so I'm Indian, and as this song is inspired by Bollywood (as stated by them and also as is obvious to anyone with any experience with Indian music), I can confirm that I didn't see anything in their outfits which could be considered cultural appropriation from South Asia, which is honestly a breath of fresh air because it happens so much. Actually they had some more subtle references in their costuming which wasn't appropriation and I actually liked a lot. For example, the paisley shirt Kim Lip wears, as paisley is a common print in Indian culture, was a really nice touch! Also the use of the red strings is not unique to Indian culture ofc, it exists all over East Asia including in Korea, but in an Indian Hindu context it is seen as a sign of protection. Also, obviously nose rings are also not specific to South Asia, but they are very common and I wouldn't be surprised if this was another reference. These little things suggest a greater degree of research has been done into the culture than simply putting a bindi on someone's forehead or other stereotypical signifiers which would actually be appropriation. I hope their stylists are able to maintain this respect throughout their live stages.

[@fairylesbyaintdve6536]

yup, plus mathapatti/ maang tikka can be seen as a symbol of unity w their role in shaadis!!!

[@fairylesbyaintdve6536]

but of course if native Americans r upset about Olivia’s outfits and such, we definitely shld be listening to them WSPECIALLYafter midnight

[@honkhonk1712]

I don't think there is any costume they wore that actually appropriated our culture. It's more of used as accessory and not dance or something, they are not being disrespectful. I think most people complaining are not even desis but I saw a lot of foreigners talking shit.

[@keithcraig506]

"I think most people complaining are not even desis but I saw a lot of foreigners talking shit." That's the problem. Most of the complaints we see aren't from people trying to protect their culture. It's from people trying to prove how 'woke' they are by trying to protect other peoples' cultures when, in fact, that protection isn't needed.

[@mmmk6793]

Thank you

[@jmtaña]

Idk i just have to say,,, your culture is so so beautiful.

[@honkhonk1712]

@@keithcraig506 you should go on twt people literally saw headpiece of deer on vivi and went "ohh well I guess it's not CA" just makes it look like they are waiting for moments they all can trash talk

[@keithcraig506]

@@honkhonk1712 I avoid twitter like the plague, especially when it comes to kpop. Way too much toxicity for me. And, yeah, some people just can't wait to stir up a drama storm over nothing.

[@TravisTheRed]

Digipedi is the best in the business when it comes to MVs imo

[@madesense3]

Except screen time 😭

[@mmmk6793]

@@madesense3 ye I don't think they know how to shoot big groups but the cinematography is immaculate

[@whoopwhooop7251]

trueee big companies always either use them or zb

[@fullsun2236]

@@mmmk6793 they definitely know. They're the ones who shot both "left and right" and "home;run" by seventeen. The problem is obviously bbc with poor line distribution and I bet they're the ones deciding the members who get most screentime:/ digipedi are just the ones receiving the orders I think

[@nodezsh]

@@mmmk6793 yeahhhhh actually it's pretty hard to give screentime to one member when the track is so heavily biased towards the rest. showing somebody on screen with no apparent reason can play against the member in the end, as the viewer asks "why is she in the video even" and as someone else mentioned, it's also probably bbc's doing. if we get an MV for WOW I expect their screentime to be higher though.

[@sadiyaaurabalqisa9065]

When you said “this stage is made for MAMA” like yooo i can’t agree with you more, Invite LOONA to MAMA!1!

[@jblev736]

My highlights: Yeojin rap 🔥 Kim Lip x Gowon 🔥 Haseul vocals 🔥 Olivia part at 3:48 🔥 Chuu high note 🔥 The drum beat throughout the whole song 🔥 The album is fantastic and the choreo for the live stage of "Wow" is so fun! It's a good day to be an orbit :D :D

[@marydinizz6931]

For me, this is already the most beautiful MV of the year, I was freaking out the whole video

[@kmac639]

7:42 I've always understood the struggle. You have a group of 12 members its gonna be hard giving everyone equal face time/lines especially when so many in the group are such strong vocalists. But at the same time I wish BBC would put in the extra effort to give those members their chance to shine. Maybe bring back solos and subunits? Do something like Twice's Melody Project or Dreamcatcher's Special Clips?

[@ryzenixy7841]

The rules are simple..If that members had more lines,they should give that members less screentimes and if that members had few lines,they should give that members more screentimes but BBC said fuck it we're giving all the lines and screentimes to that members

[@m_6nus]

@@ryzenixy7841 that makes no sense lol I see your point but that can’t even work out

[@leviberg2377]

@@ryzenixy7841 That's not how it works.

[@pievancl5457]

@@ryzenixy7841 what nonexistent rule is this? Almost every large group suffers from this problem. It comes down to Loona being a product at the end of the day- the most popular members will get the most screen time because BBC is a business who are in it to make money. It sucks for the girls who get snubbed and the orbits who love them, but this is how it works unfortunately.

[@doomray2468]

the white outfits look nothing like our ethnic wear btw. they're more middle age european than anything. and it's a bollywood song the aesthetics are very relevant and respectfully done imo.

[@honkhonk1712]

Best era for us Indian Orbits!!😭

[@coagulatedsalts4711]

all desi orbits! 😭🙏🏽 this cb made me so happy!!

[@soniaborker9428]

Hey ! ik some other desi people also stated they feel the same, but I'm Pakistani-Indian and I just wanted to say that I think this is completely cultural appreciation. I'm thrilled with this comeback, it's probably my favorite so far, probably because of the Bollywood influence. Also, the fact that they mentioned the Bollywood influence in the video description and described the elements that were influenced really warms my heart :))! ** I also wanted to mention you shouldn't assume, or really make any statements abt ca if you're not from that culture. Ik you didn't mean any harm as you didn't expand on it, but it's still kinda out of place, even if you did some research. Like, when you said there was nothing that you saw that was ca, hyunjin and Vivi were wearing headpieces that heavily resembled maang tikkas and matha pattis, which some desi people think is ca.

[@littletath]

this is exactly what i said

[@otterwithadarkside4422]

You got an intro now! Cool!

[@bethanylalala]

your new intro omg love!!!! kura kura deserves. I have MISSED loona

[@mmmk6793]

I think BBC think because oec is the most popular unit we'll only care abt their lore or their in universe Easter eggs so this one and why not even are very heavy on the oec but I'd have loved to see maybe Vivi's robot eye glow or a lil crescent moon or shadow crown on gowon. Hyunjin with the yellow smoke and heejin having planets revolving around her was nice though

[@CyF9]

Such an amazing song and MV! That Yves part definitely destroyed me. As a Go Won stan I am as always sad about the lack of lines for her, but I'm used to it. Time to go watch your album reaction! Oh and I love the new intro!!! Glad to have you back to your normal schedule!

[@victoriab98]

i'm more of a casual listener but this is my favorite title track of theirs! this is making me want to dive deeper into loona and stan them :)

[@pievancl5457]

Wait until you discover their b-sides.. some of the best music I’ve ever heard in my life, and not even just in kpop

[@w_aleed0]

The intro is giving what had to be gave🤭

[@lizabee]

I think a lot of orbits were apprehensive about this considering kpops history with cultural appropriation but our girls pulled THROUGH! Talented & respectful 💕

[@antoniosakrivopoulos3427]

love the wolf footprints before the like a wolf to the moon line

[@gio-yq4zv]

i genuinely had the same reaction as you at 4:10, i replayed that part at least 15 times before going on with the mv, yves stans how are we feeling? 😭

[@littletath]

honestly i think no one should talk over desi orbits if they are upset especially bc of loona's past history of mocking desis and stuff, but in my opinion as an indian orbit, this mv was so beautiful!! it was totally cultural appreciation and bbc even credited bollywood music in their description so i loved it

[@dominicsteele8932]

The intro is so unexpected haha

[@Moloch68]

Took a few listens but yes....love it.

[@user-by5gh9yt7v]

Yeah for me it took like 2~3 listens

[@pievancl5457]

Same.. it’s such a relief that it slaps. I always get nervous I won’t like the song when my favs come back. Luckily, my bias group is Loona who never disappoints me really

[@tlmolee2246]

이달소 이번에는 진짜 달까지 흥해라🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗😘😘😘😘

[@jblev736]

7:28 We all know twitter doesn't know about this "research" of which you speak 🙃

[@agatahighstein]

Gowon’s solo scene is SO PRETTY and we barely get to see it at all.

[@sanascheesekimbap]

As soon as heejin said ‘are you ready for some action’ I just smiled throughout the whole video

[@choerrymotion1034]

Yves is a problem in this comeback!

[@radishugh6178]

Just for information, Onewe drop a mv named Veronica today. Hope you you will see it.

[@wiz_lime]

Me seeing Iz*One at the back Cries Solid wiz*one here

[@yspekpop]

16:47 My favorite part

[@si-jx1nb]

people are gonna be mad about how certain members have a lot of lines (lip, yves, heejin, etc...) but they have to realize that BBC needs to make money so they are going to feed the members with lines who have the most fans, thats just how LOONA has to make money. sure its frustrating but if they put equal focus on heejin as they do vivi and gowon they simply would get less money, and we need these girls to make money.

[@TalkingAboutYooh]

Not only that but imagine the difficulty in writing a song to fit 12 different vocalists. It's almost impossible to do so someone is going to get the short end of the stick. It sucks that it's often Vivi and Gowon but that's just the way it is. Usually, the difference is made up on the b-sides.

[@cookiemonster45dc]

That doesn’t make any sense If that was the case Vivi would be getting a lot of lines as well because she trends on Social media more than any other member also so does Gowon…it’s just bbc is lazy and doesn’t know how to incorporate them into these songs. WOW has sooo many gowon lines because she fits perfectly in the melody and so does vivi. Those two could’ve easily taken the rap lines with yeojin.

[@jammm2113]

(I'm on my laptop, so sorry if this seems a lot) that's kinda bull if you think about it. one of the reason why there are underrated members are bc they don't have enough exposure. heejin had several commercials and participated in mixnine too. if BBC is gonna push them at the back, it's just going to continue a vicious cycle and at the end of it, the already underrated members are just going to fade away in the background. gowon is a dancer, vivi a former model, BBC could definitely use those abilities at their advantages but they doing nothing with it. in my opinion (I can be awfully wrong), even if people bias heejin, kim lip and such, I've seen a lot of orbits reaction hyping up the most underrated members like yeojin, vivi, etc. so it is a bad idea to showcase such a bad line distribution bc many orbits are just going to complain. the comeback is BOMB, but bc of that every two comments under the MV, it's about the lack of lines. you definitely don't want to showcase negativity.

[@si-jx1nb]

@@cookiemonster45dc im not talking about popularity outside of the group im saying the members in the group who are most popular are going to get the more lines to please the majority of viewers.

[@ivegyattocomment]

i love how you mentioned about the song, mv, choreo and the lack of certain members. i know it sucks for the fans but as u said at this point of time, we just need to get use to it.

[@sofiajosefinboldrini8164]

Love the new intro!!

[@hyunjinsamericano_7]

Love the intro ❤️

[@Lucas-yd6ki]

12:26 *bursts into start of something new from high school musical* (I don't know why what you said here reminds me of it

[@prodigycps8871]

to be here with you ohh

[@stanloona8518]

God digipedi! This is insane 🔥🔥🎉🎉👏🏻

[@defrankbeuckelaer]

thank you

[@Lucas-yd6ki]

I think more people are concerned about Hyunjin's (and possibly Chuu's) headpieces regarding cultural appropriation but obviously I can be wrong/seen the wrong thing as I am not a part of any South Asian culture

[@ActuallyAnanya]

I'm Indian and those headpieces didn't really register as being appropriative to me at least

[@jammm2113]

is it really appropriation if the company gives correct credit and mentions about the cultural inspiration ?

[@Lucas-yd6ki]

@@jammm2113 I don't know, it's not for me to decide, only those that it could potentially be appropriating

[@Lucas-yd6ki]

@@ActuallyAnanya Ah okay thank you for sharing your opinion, I just wanted to make sure that orbits didn't just sweep it under the rug if they did do something as kpop fans have done in the past

[@ActuallyAnanya]

@@Lucas-yd6ki I think it's important to understand that different people will see it differently. I know some are comparing it to maang tikka etc., I personally didn't see that because maang tikka tend to be a lot more heavy while the headdresses the Loona members are wearing are a lot more modern and I think not even specific to Indian culture. However if other South Asians feel uncomfortable with it that's just as valid.

[@OLBYAHYE.OLIABAEK]

Yves just step on your soul 😂

[@ianm271]

OKAY BUT H'sl;oidlfjas'dljkvndsf 'dlgfkbsn'adljkf I PHYSICALLY COULD NOT BREATHE WHEN THE CHORUS HIT. I PAUSED AND SCREAMED AT MY COMPUTER FOR LIKE, 5 SECONDS. Also does anyone hear "Wonderland" by ATEEZ possibly used as musical inspiration? YEOJIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!!!! JESUJS CHRIST GIRLY! I did NOT expect her to come ripping through so hard with that rap line!????

[@yoakashi00]

that was my exact facial expression when i saw yeojin

[@dra7en777]

Hi Kaia, i really hope you could check out & make a reaction video for Pink Fantasy's new comeback titled 'Poison'.. I'm pretty sure you'll be surprise & also enjoy the whole experience watching this one . ☺️🙏

[@stevenwang4438]

I am an Orbit, I love them. But... why this makes me feel very PIXY? I mean some of the storyboards. If Loona comes back before Pixy, I think that Pixy will be in trouble...

[@user-by5gh9yt7v]

??

[@miguel_graphix5727]

Yes! I can also see that! I was actually relieved that they were the one came back than loona and not the other way around. There were similar scenes such as the flaming wings and the headpieces. Tbh I’m scared when these things happens because people are so fast when they see something similar and they make big issues about it.

[@miguel_graphix5727]

@@cristiandraws hi! Yes, I’m pretty familiar with the lore of LOONA😅. I was just pointing out that netizens can be crazy when it comes to similarities within kpop artists😊

[@jobeeyss]

Pixy came back with “Let Me Know” last month

[@mymood3117]

Whats the name of the song in the intro? 🤭 it's bothering me how familiar it is

[@SafeCave]

Twice - Kura Kura!!

[@mizterxc]

low key im glad SM didnt produce this song, the last 2 done by him were not my favourite to be completely honest. honestly Ryan S. Jhun did amazing work on this one

[@Betakitten87]

The girls pulled though!!!

[@stanchoiyena]

we pretty much had the same reaction as usual lmao

[@Nebulox]

Why would these white outfits cause drama? I see no connection at all

[@keithcraig506]

Because some people are ignorant, need to prove how 'woke' they are and / or thrive on drama. Most of the complaints concerning cultural appropriation don't even come from people who would be effected by the supposed cultural appropriation.

[@fairylesbyaintdve6536]

I mean you’re right abt the CA thing in this instance but tbh nobody needed u to say “from what I can see there’s nothing they’re wearing in there that’s culturally appropriative” like the rest of what u said was fine and respectful imo but like. U gotta be careful with the things you say upfront. and I think “being shitty” is a weird way to describe trying to hold BBC as a company accountable for potentially harming vulnerable people when it’s so easy to Not. like I agree that white ppl should stay silent and uplift the voices of actual native ppl but when the white ppl r trying to talk about it , it’s not being shitty it’s just misguided .

[@zullului]

I give this one a big fat 'meh'. The instrumental sounds hollow to me and their voices are far too soft for a song that's meant to go hard (but is failing to do so).. It's a total mismatch.

[@doomray2468]

that's how tablas sound, they're a hollow sounding percussive instrument. and it's a very impactful song.

[@zullului]

@@doomray2468 I think it's more to do with the overall production for me rather than the specific instruments being used. glad people are enjoying it. I can't.

[@pievancl5457]

@@zullului did you listen on headphones? It doesn’t sound hollow at all.. the bass is FAT but it’s super low end. You won’t hear it through phone/laptop speakers or your tv

[@orquito7710]

bollywood songs are like this yk the singers be singing with pitchy voices over crazy instrumentals thats just how it is. if you dont like it doesn’t mean is not good.

[@kritiker.1040]

Hmmm. It sounded like 3YE.

[@suhbrly]

what- no

[@wilzenryanbolak2521]

Wow 3ye trademarked an entire genre! Love that

[@lolwildrift4763]

NGL...the song is mid af ! It could have been way better ! overall 5/10 for me

[@TravisTheRed]

I thought it was great

[@lolwildrift4763]

@@TravisTheRed it's just my opinion! i did't like the song

[@nominwoo96]

Those who are interested in theories, I think I've cracked the code! It's a bit long but you can read the whole thing here: twitter.com/paxkchonyal/status/1409541210276986884?s=20