REACTION: Warbringers - Sylvanas | TradeChat

[@patrickmclaughlin302]

Horde be going through warchiefs like Hogwarts went through Dark Arts teachers.

[@Loremastrful]

Willy P extra point to Gryffindor for making that reference on Harry Potter's b-day

[@joseazevedo6199]

Have your like and gtfo

[@dudezter5386]

hahahahaha ok that was perfect!! good job sir!

[@simonbujold2708]

Then lets go full goblet of fire twist plot, it was Jaina with a polyjuice potion all along and Sylvanas has been lock in a trunk in the ruins of Theramore all that time.

[@totallyanexpert5212]

Thats because Voldemort cursed the spot after he was banished btw

[@yilinjiang4270]

Even Nathanos was like: "wait wut?"

[@Azrael79a]

I know, right?

[@Darklighter75]

You know you dun gon batshit cray cray when even Nathanos looks at you in horror....

[@delta3030]

I thought he just wasn't paying attention. "Burn it." "Hmmm?" "BURN IT!" "Oh snap okay, here we go."

[@brya9681]

yah I realized that, even her most loyal dude was not down.

[@Gravewhisper]

Ah, he just wanted to slaughter Elves with his own hands, rather than watching them burn from afar. He was probably just mildly disappointed. :D

[@StephenCole1916]

-Panzer "I can't deal with anymore emotional devastation..." -Blizzard "Hold my beer..."

[@GeorgeNoX]

she done fcked up :P Even Nathanos hesitated lol

[@jasonthegame10]

You're the first person I see comment about Nathanos hesitate. Quite a shocker since he's her Champion.

[@mateobega12]

haha It really must be a really fucked up thing to Nathanos doubt about a command from Sylvannas.

[@_reenzane]

Tbh in that moment of hesitation, I almost expected Saurfang stepping in the way and refusing to let this go thru

[@eviltim3786]

Ya know im glad someone else paid attention to that, I mean to be fair it could be that the original plan was only to capture and control it, so it could be a thing where he was just surprised, but still

[@spazzticaunt]

Yeah I chuckled when I seen Nathanos' reaction. But I thought for sure Saurfang was going to lose his shit. But then again he's old school so no matter what he thinks right at that point he felt it wasn't his place to question her order so he just walked away. But Nathanos you knew Sylvanas was losing her temper when you seen his reaction. You know when the bad asses of the bad asses look scared someone done messed up.

[@dakjdsdaasdasd1254]

What mount sylvanas will drop?

[@peachigold5074]

dakjd sdaasdasd Nathanos I hope

[@TheBartiz]

xD I cannot wait to mount my Blightcaller!

[@dylanwong5370]

Invisible

[@getcrunk117]

A regular lvl 20 skeletal horse

[@Caedus696]

Whatever it is, it will be colored gray.

[@shaojiewu9805]

"Alliance is loving this reaction from me now" yep

[@zevahc3928]

As someone who has played Alliance, primarily, for the past 12 years, I was hoping for something better than Garrosh 2.0 from Sylvannas. My condolences.

[@HmmWelp]

They couldn't even do it well is what's really upsetting. One of my favorite characters from the beginning is now being made into a genocidal bad guy, and they can't even make the transformation believable. Wish they'd have made Saurfang or Rexxar warchief and left Syl alone.

[@Ultimaton100]

I’m not without hope just yet. Blizzard knows they risk losing about 1/3 of current subscribers if they mess this up. Either they are the most predictable hacks in storytelling, or they have one hell of a plot twist coming up at some point in the next two years.

[@zevahc3928]

Bleeding Eye Watcher This is what I am hoping for.

[@HmmWelp]

Bleeding Eye Watcher I certainly hope so, if they ruin my favorite character teldrassil won't be the only thing burning down. But I feel there... wait. What if Fordring turned dark? Would he not have the power after all this time to exert his will on at least a few of the "rebellious" dead?

[@HmmWelp]

Pretty sure I am REACHING but still. That would be a believable enough twist to where maybe, just MAYBE

[@double2254]

Bliz what happened to “morally gray”

[@TreacherousTetrisTerrorist]

Wait until it turns out that Teldrassil is Old God infested.

[@jershumuyo2734]

and that will change what Sylvanas did even if that is the case Xar? lol

[@TreacherousTetrisTerrorist]

Well, not your frozen, joke-understanding-incapable mind, for sure.

[@double2254]

Xar Alkaid Roasted!

[@double2254]

Xar Alkaid Well played

[@Cinema_Is_Supreme]

Before the reaction: "I don't think it was Sylvanus." Oh god this isn't going to go well.

[@OriginalPuro]

Sylvanas*

[@Yutani_Crayven]

The worst thing about it is that Blizzard provided a perfectly good explanation, but you can only learn about it if you read the accompanying novels. The game and the cinematics don't explain shit, and so people get away with the impression that she did it just to spite that one elf. Which is complete nonsense, obviously. The burning of the tree was a direct consequence of Saurfang failing to kill Malfurion.

[@willythemailboy2]

"you can kill us, but you cannot kill hope!" Sylvanas: Hold my beer.

[@Gravewhisper]

Plot twist: The day before she burned the tree was the drinking event of the Kirin Tor. Sylvanas was still hungover :D

[@jasonf7265]

Hah! Hilarious, but she really can kill any hope of victory the Alliance has; and through that she can create a lasting peace

[@Sparker408]

She should have been holding a beer through the scene. Lol even better

[@Schmetterling_Honey]

She's unhinged, she ditched her original plan & got triggered bc she didnt like what the elf said. Weak.

[@ellizaethe9249]

VICTORY FOR SYLVANAS!!!!!!!

[@YoruSensei]

I feel bad for the Horde tbh, alliance blood is boiling right now with righteous anger and Horde is like ..wtf why? but great reaction^^

[@DanteWallker]

I just wanted a nice tree to go on vacations, and what I've got is a huge torch..... ok... never liked the tree anyway...

[@afigurezero777]

For real. Her doing this makes no fucking sense. As a die hard Horde player I dont know how this benefits us.

[@afigurezero777]

She lost her fucking mind.

[@loganunderdawn]

Nah man, most of us hordies are glad the tree burned, and I also wish saurfang finished off malfurion. the tree hippies were always a bother, and now their tree is gone just like undercity will be. What Sylvanas did was the work of a warchief that wants to rule over Kalimdor, not like a weakling priest who hides from conflict. Vol'Jin wouldve been a great chieftain, but sylvanas is one of the best ones to replace him. Only one who could've been better would've been Saurfang.

[@RosaBrandDesigns]

My first thought was of the rise of fascist leaders. They rise to power with the help of the people only to commit atrocities like this in the name of their ideology. Sylvanas is an ambitious leader who thinks she's doing what is best for her people, but in truth is a monster. Every antagonist thinks they're the hero of their own story. I can't help but wonder if horde players are intended to feel conflicted about this, almost as if rocking the foundation of the faction now be nothing like what will happen to the alliance. Never underestimate a storytellers sadistic nature. We love to punish our readers, but then conflict is what drives any story.

[@kapriel3763]

“I have never trusted you, nor would I have ever imagined, in our darkest time, that you would be da one to save us... Many will not understand, but you must sep out of da shadows, and lead.” - Vol’jin

[@KingOpenReview]

Spirits were trolling.

[@YoXeV]

Da spirits be trollin mon

[@AnikaJarlsdottr]

instead, she stepped INTO the shadows.

[@OonaghFae]

I play Horde and can't stand that Sylvanas did this. It's OK to not approve of your leader's conduct. I miss Thrall and Vol'jin.

[@SavageVR]

Ain't that the truth. Look at america 2018.

[@Atigeve]

I am really hoping there is more to it that we havent seen yet. I do like Sylvanas, but I dislike this act, however look at the quest leading up to it... We didnt slaughter everyone, we saved people.

[@JayStrun]

As a Warcraft III player...I, too, miss Green Jesus.

[@MrVlad12340]

Chuck Castle only Saurfangs party did, according to books other Horde soldekiers just killed whoever they saw, armed or unarmed, wounded or not.

[@capper187]

It seems, whether she knows it or not, she's still carrying on the old Lich King's will: To exterminate all life on Azeroth. I could be wrong, but that's what it appears to be to me.

[@Konuvis]

If not that then she's definitely become what she hates most.

[@ymir6286]

It's literally what she is now. If anyone doesn't know yet, that nightelf in the cinematic is the captain the alliance side quests with throughout the scenario in parts 1 and 2. She is essentially Sylvanas' nightelf equivalent facing the same scenario Sylvanas faced when her home was sacked by Arthas.

[@JustAChinesePleb]

Damnnn

[@1wing1]

thats interesting. whats her name? can we expect a nightelf banshee queen? lmao

[@mrs.alienrope5778]

Seems like next expansion would be a Bolvar expansion. He might still have control over her

[@CorreyBarnes]

As a horde player... this reaction sums up how I feel perfectly.

[@lalogste6577]

Weak, the Alliance must be erradicated, this world feeds on war.

[@fenrirswolh3]

Correy Barnes I played both sides. This is... 14 years.

[@leto8821]

Lalo Gste haha love your comment! finally a true warrior of the horde!

[@DR_REDACTED]

FOR THE HOOOOORD

[@ryanebrecht5651]

Confirmed: Sylvanas did 9/11

[@warhammer5690]

Ryan Ebrecht twice. Gilneas and Teldrassil/Darnassus

[@jumjalalabash]

She wants to invade Teldrassil for the oil

[@mann0311]

> Kills a tree of life > Blizzard: Morally grey. > wat

[@Gravewhisper]

well see, that Tree was sick. Infested with a terrible disease. A disease called Nightelves!

[@TheCaribeandragon]

I don’t care how many times I watch this, Sylvanas seeing the mother and the baby die always makes my eyes tear up

[@josejuanandrade4439]

0:13 "I am a very horde leaning person, i'm sure Jaina is the one that will burn the tree because she is cra-a-a-azy" 4:09 "Oooooooooohhhhh............." "Are we..... THE BAD GUYS ?!" Ok, i've lost count how many times i've said this before but... to all those people that though Sylvannas was some kind of hero: Why?... Do you even lore?! I am so proud of being a fan of Warcraft since the RTS, an have personaly played tru Warcraft 2 and 3 and WoW from its beginning. And anyone that has actualy played the games, and payed a minimum of attention to the story, in other words, anyone with a pair of eyes and ears, will tell you, Sylvannas is NOT a good character... She is not a hero... She is the product of hate and sorrow... a being that exists only to revenge, and that won't care how deep she has to fall to accomplish her goals... She-is-not the nice guy of the story. But, unlike Illidan, she is not there to protect anything, for she thinks there's nothing left to protect. Illidan may have been neither the nicest guy... but at least he fought to protect something, that's why at least he is considered an Anti-hero, Sylvannas in the other hand... well... And this is not a garrosh 2.0... Garrosh is a char that genuinely went from a rash, yet honorable warrior, to a crazy warmonger... it was more understandable that people where upset at the twist of character he had... but Sylvannas... she has never been a nice, honorable anything (i mean since after Arthas killed her)

[@elearnej5524]

jaina out of all the npc has the most reasons to go all bat shit but, in the end shes not stupid she will probably have a big part in this expansion finally, on the other hand miss emo queen there was the obvious suspect, unthinking and rash she went off the rails and divided the horde and burned out a formidable bargaining chip for her cause, if only she didnt lose sight of the initial plan and killed malfurion instead of just walking away, and kept the tree has a resource then she would actually be a little more well placed for the coming war.

[@josejuanandrade4439]

2 good points, here are my thoughts about it: 1 - She didn't kill Malfurion for a couple reazons: Because she wanted Saurfang to do it personaly, to get his hands bloody. That's why she leaves. If she stays, it would still mean less. If she leaves and he kills Malfurion, Saurfang could not argue that he was following orders and that his warchief was just there, waiting for he to complete his task. BUT in the case she leaves, and he dosen't kill him, then she can brand Saurfang as a traitor... and get rid of him. Saurfang is a pilar of honor, a bastion that represent all the good things horde... an obstacle for her machinations... So, if he dosen't do as she order him, she has an advantage there, to later kick him out. Also! If Saurfangs kills Malfurion alone, the Alliance hate would be totaly directed on him... Sylvannas is all ways of cunning, she plots well in advance, and she is kind of a coward, she uses others to do her dirty work. 2 - I think it was kinda convenient how all the catapults were already pointed towards Teldrasil... and loaded with Azerite bombs...Don't you think? That's because her plan was to burn the tree all along. An attack of the magnitude needed to burn the whole tree whole can't be pulled in 2 seconds because you get all pissed towards a soldier... You need to have the weapons ready, AND the ammo. And like the elf said, she had already won... And just to finish here... i been thinking... what if this war is just the first step of a much bigger plan? She said : Life is pain, and againm the elf said "You made life your enemy"... What if Sylvannas is plotting to realy kill everybody in the planet and turn them into undeads enslaved to her will? Remember, she said that too in the comic... it may actualy be true....

[@DreamWalkerVl]

Just THANK YOU. It's nice to see at least one person from this crowd who knows Lore. It is a pity that the players are not interested in Lore, and play for the Horde only for the reason that it is "brutal."

[@Lehnert]

I'm feeling morally grey right now.

[@slatealan7082]

what is morally grey ？

[@GabrielFernandes-yy3wi]

neither good nor evil. Grey is this case is a reference to what is in between white and black (alluding to good and evil). Oh and, he's being sarcastic 😅

[@slatealan7082]

Why everyone spend this in every sylvanas video ?

[@Leo-lx8bu]

because the horde love sylvanas, because shes a good person, but lazy writing has led to this shit burning down teldrassil, what a waste of a horde character again, SoO 2.0 imbound

[@promaillet]

I think her goal is to make everyone Undead! but Voljin put her in charge because the spirit were telling him to. I don't think its bad writting something will probably happen with the old god and it will kind of make her look better.

[@Skollshorties]

Stop killing our Warchiefs. Grumble. Grumble. Grumble.

[@russell9153]

I don't think they'l kill Sylvannas off. As much as I hate her. *Snort* *Snort* *Snort*

[@chuckdavis4747]

Stop supporting crazy evil warchiefs

[@slifersdisciple3504]

Grumble for warchief? He has all the elements for it :D

[@afsarahmed6365]

they will kill off anybody that could potentially have good character development

[@EmpyreanDreamer]

I think this expansion ending without Sylvanas' death would be a massive cop out. There's no way Saurfang isn't gonna become warchief I just hope the precursor to that is Sylvanas dying and not another Garrosh/Grom situation. The only thing I would accept other than her death is becoming the Lich Queen, given she's basically already become everything she hated about Arthas.

[@Konuvis]

Anyone else miss Thrall yet? :p I loved the imagery of the golden field and the Scourge too!

[@GamesandNonsenseUnleashed]

No, because WoW's narrative was terrible back then- the same ole Alliance fights Horde until a big bad comes up.

[@soulsreaper7145]

what would u rather have??

[@iwirq6871]

Thrall is peace keeping baby. It's not world of peacecraft, it's world of warcraft.

[@Konuvis]

The narrative wasn't as good but the whole fighting Warchief dynamic didn't happen till MoP with a build up in Cata. One has to wonder if Chris for-the-horde- Metzen was still here, would he destroy the soul of the Horde that way.

[@JakO_Ob]

Konuvis no one likes thrall not a true horde player ! For the horde ! And burn it ! Burn it down !!

[@TheCalenestel]

I'm more Alliance than ever. But no, I'm not loving your reaction in the way you mean. In fact I'm so, so sorry for your sake. And for all Horde players that share your sentiment. Also (as I said to a guildie): Sylvanas burning the tree was SO obvious that a plot twist was too obvious. It was a double twist. Now we wait to see what happens with Sylvanas. I honestly think the plot twist is still coming. It's just that it will take much more story before we get to it. Love from Eastern Kingdoms!

[@HmmWelp]

Here's hoping she does something to redeem herself, turns the horde over to saurfang, and goes wandering into the sunset leaving Nathanos in charge of the forsaken, showing up for major questlines in the future. I'm really going to be upset if this ends with her dead or still like.. this.

[@Berries666]

THANK YOU as a Horde player I also HATE it when I see ppl bitching about Sylvanas being a bad bitch. Like why the hell do people apply the morality of Real life into a fantasy MMO? Like who cares who is evil and not, welcome to world of WARcraft, there are no cops to arrest our warchief for starting a faction war. So dissapointed with Horde players whinning about wanting to be good peace keepers, social justice warriors wannabe.

[@MyCheeseNacho]

She is far too evil now for a plot twist. This trully saddens me

[@TheCalenestel]

I don't THINK so... it will just be another kind of twist. But it's also possible that it won't be a twist but a slower more standard development. In any case I'm confident that Blizz has an idea what they want to do with this, and I don't think it's a repeat of Garrosh. (My crazy theory involves Undead as a third faction... but I know there's not much backing THAT up) :D

[@HmmWelp]

TheCalenestel that's pretty unlikely imo. I think they're going for more of an arthas 2.0 type thing. But I'll continue hoping for otherwise

For the Horde,for Lady Sylvanas.This is what war is all about!

[@mythorr]

Blizz tricked us into buying MoP for a second time.

[@Zhani_Beccharelli]

So 9.0 is WoD 2.0 ?? :D

[@Mayckie]

MoP was good yoo!

[@andrewmatheson238]

Mop was a great expac and had a lot of great content

[@Cosmochinchilla]

I think ya mean WoD :D

[@ohchinchindaisuke1927]

I can’t upvote this comment hard enough

[@Loremastrful]

No gloating, but my question is where are all the cooler heads. Did the Blood Elves think raining fiery death and destroying an elven homeland was a good idea? What about the Pandaren who only fight for home and family? Where were they in a fight for neither? The Horde has a habit of not confronting their leaders, especially on questionable decisions.

[@everforward5561]

The TAUREN would have a huge fucking problem with this.

[@lchacho]

Ask blizzard, they suck at writing, this is the same they did with Garrosh Hellscream...

[@KieranVKurenai]

Rahsaan Footman the horde are notorious for doing things without even telling the others, that is except the Taurens. But when the alliance attacked innocent workers I believe all the alliance leaders knew about that? I can't remember 100% but I believe they did.

[@Avrah]

This wasn't what was agreed upon by the horde lol. They were okay with capturing the tree but not burning it. She burns the tree out of spite on a whim because she's angry. I don't know where the other leaders are but I would imagine this wouldnt have happened had they been there.

[@Keyblader001]

Exactly, I don't even play horde and in my head I'm thinking "wouldn't Tauren be really pissed off with this decision?"

[@phoebe1696]

4:30 Um, it’s Sylvanas, I didn’t expect anything else😂

[@lornetc]

Im feeling "morally grey" about Jaina using the focusing Iris on orgrimmar now.

[@hugofernandes3262]

Even Garrosh is greyer than this.

[@jeffreycollins5428]

Idk there are a ton of innocent people in org. The tauren at least are the most peaceful of the horde races when it comes to faction interaction. Though I wouldn't shed a tear if sylvanis was gone. She was a turd since wc3. My only complaint would be again replacing warchiefs and recycling a story from what 2010?

[@JackDespero]

I hope she doesn't. We cannot fight on the same level because even if we win, we lose.

[@jeffreycollins5428]

I'm just upset that they are rehashing an old plot. I really wish they would focus on the horde being an honorable band of outcasts and misfits that try to survive.. this making horde leaders villians for the sake of shock value is stale

[@thesynergy2]

"Morally grey" they said

[@philipanderson7581]

"Complex Story" they said...

[@mechanicobra]

“Both sides making questionable choices” they said

[@blafonovision4342]

"The Horde aren't evil. They're just misunderstood." They said.

[@SuzakuX]

"Hey, you make grey by mixing black and white, right? So if we have black and white character in the same scene it'll get mixed together and become gray, right?" - Blizzard's writers, probably

[@NecroticFarron]

"Are we the baddies?"

[@sylvanaswindrunner3757]

Ahh... Don't grieve. You'll thank me later...

[@Rawen1982]

Garrosh 2.0 everyone, now with extra crazy and malice. I'm very much Alliance but even I think the Horde deserve a break from losing Warchiefs or just simply getting full on insane and/or evil ones. Not that I had high hopes for Sylvanas in that respect but I mean come on, Blizzard, at a certain point you're just kicking the Horde players while they're down.

[@adamaj74]

What do you expect from orcs, undead? They're monsters afterall...

[@AmberWrath]

This all wouldn't have happened if the Tree had a gun.

[@emconitegamez5566]

To be honest as a undead character I don’t care how evil we have to be along as we win.

[@hawgpit5274]

emconite gamez lol see you next week

[@nathanmccarthy9820]

emconite gamez wouldn’t say evil I would more or less say sick of dumb shit and fightinback

[@Shakalowski]

There is no honor!

[@TheOmegaSkater]

I wouldnt say evil thats not a thing in Warcraft Kappa youre just becoming the scourge 2.0 ^^

[@nathanmccarthy9820]

TheOmegaSkater so where’s that out rage of when varian captured female orcs then tortured there children in front of them before killing all of them, of the call to genocide against the undead OR the attacking and genocide of troll tribes including peaceful tribes leaving none alive

[@goygeous]

She plants humans in a field and test the plague on them and you think she is cute and cuddly, come on.

[@lalogste6577]

Yeah, why these weaklings forget that?

[@kazuya9288]

she also treated her rangers as disposable fodder and cared little for their demise and that was even before she fell to Arthas.

[@giancarlovalentino4095]

That was not her, it was warden stillwater who went rogue, thats why you kill him later

[@WramTheVinylGuy]

this

[@Anime4Life35]

She was always pragmatic and ruthless but she wasn't just mindlessly evil

[@aethewulf4787]

Lions,prepare to siege orgrimmar!

[@Herel78]

nikola prcic are you saying we get SoO Season 2?

[@aethewulf4787]

William Herel hope so!

[@n2kflo493]

Lions prepeare to die at the gates of ogrimmar

[@slothenthusiast49]

like we did last time? oh wait. your city was a raid LOL

[@jamesfreeman7954]

Why so another WoD 2.0? Lols Blizzard writing is trash.

[@stanleyho8009]

All HAIL THE BANSHEE QUEEN! This is what the night elves AND the alliance deserve. This is the exact same thing as when the alliance let the High Elves get slaughtered by the Lich King, they didn’t send help when they asked. 90% of the High Elves were wiped out and most of the remaining ones (which wasn’t much) called themselves Blood Elves and practiced arcane magic to defend themselves against the scourge. The alliance never helped them so they turned to the Horde. The alliance deserves this, a genocide a revenge that all Blood Elves were waiting for (and the Horde). And especially a genocide on the Night Elces because they abandoned they High Elves to lick some ass of Moon Goddes who didn’t save anyone of the Night Elves so jokes on you, you should’ve stayed a High Elves because all those powers and Gods didn’t help you when Sylvanas came to your borders and burned your tree and your people.

[@jey1448]

Welcome to garrosh 2.0

[@LifeOnMarzMI]

I play both sides, but I'm primarily an Alliance player. That being said, I do not believe that the Horde are the bad guys. Sylvanas, yes, but not the faction as a whole. This hurts, obviously, but I do think it makes for a really interesting story for Horde players and their characters. Do you follow your Warchief at all costs? What does it mean to be For the Horde? Is this war in the interests of the Horde, or just Sylvanas? My Horde toon is a Tauren Druid, so this whole storyline has been heartbreaking for me from that perspective.

[@irvsjankybuilds]

im an alliance and i believe horde are all about honor and glory. i don't believe the horde are evil, its just the fact that sylvanas represents the horde so shes making the horde look bad with this.

[@brreezy421]

It would be cool... if it wasn't done already 2 xpacks ago :((((

[@jordanvega3619]

Your theory was so unrealistic with Jaina

[@WarGamerGirl]

Jaina will BURN DOWN THE TREE WITH HER FROST MAG.... uh, wait...

[@lorinctoth9402]

She lost her people and it damaged her hard. Why would she do that to aanyone else, when she knows the best how painful it is? That doesn't make any sense.

[@YanniusX]

@@lorinctoth9402 The same could be said about Sylvanas...but here we are

[@seven2eight2]

Watching your intro... "you sweet summer child". Great video Panser!

[@ciram9082]

- you can't kill hope - well I'm rubber, you're gl-BURN IT!

[@iResonate]

I belly laughed at this! lmfao!

[@Deadpool_the_Merc_with_a_Mouth]

Sylvanas - not the warchief the horde deserve but the warchief the horde need

[@TheMightyMana]

As a Goblin, i enjoy a big fire when i see one. 10/10 #mywarchief

[@balfanghellfire]

Finally. A fellow member of the Horde with sense.

[@TheMightyMana]

dont explain me my fetish

[@redaxe5372]

MORALLY GREY THEY SAID 😭😭😅

[@Leefonzell]

Azeroth will never be at peace, it’s literally the world of Warcraft. The titans spoke of it in lore. It will only get worse. We are all just along for the ride.

[@centipedeman338]

Also it’ll be boring if the game was peaceful? Lol

[@centipedeman338]

Azathoth You want a soother for that bad throat of yours?

[@bloody_tea3924]

Wipe out all the alliance dogs, the true peace will come.

[@TheySchlendrian]

@@centipedeman338 for manduin!

[@alittlebirdi]

Never forget that Garrosh executed his own General for destroying a tree full of innocents and children. #garroshdidnothingwrong #theramorewasaninsidejob

[@mikem7767]

Mr. Boling _ Garrosh fit the spirit of the Horde far more than Sylvanas. She's just pure evil at this point. She's like an evil dictator that rules with fear like Kim Jong. At least Garrosh had a sense of warriors honor. But all those who follow Sylvanas completely understand are just as evil as her. I hope there is a civil war among the Horde. Maybe Sylvanas will become a third more evil faction and disband from the Horde.

[@GamesandNonsenseUnleashed]

Horde > Thrall (Alive) > Garrosh (dead) > Vol'jin (dead) > Sylvanus Alliance > Bolvar (LK) > Varian (dead) > Anduin .... so, the Horde has 1 more high leader death than the Alliance; which isn't a huge deal.

[@kingmarlexia]

This

[@forest470]

what about king llane wrynn?

[@mahvipallo12]

Well Alliance's Vanilla leader was Anduin but Bolvar and Onyxia were pseudo leaders.

[@GamesandNonsenseUnleashed]

Bolvar was the Reagent and leader. Anduin was not of age and had no authority to command armies and the Nation.

[@iokepakaona6209]

There's a method to Sylvanas' madness. Trust her. This is war. Blood for blood.

[@WulfPriest]

Not my warchief. I stand with the Horde. Warchief Saurfang

[@Eloryan]

rip

[@dagrimone]

i too am a horde player and i thought it was gonna be azshara who did it gutted it was yet again our warchief who gone dun nuts i am sick of blizz killing our warchiefs after making them do bad stuff... i really hope there's something more to this and maybe that someone is controlling her but as she just wanted to capture it first and it took a night elf taunting her to do it i somehow doubt it if someone was controlling her she would of always intended on burning it but she didnt she just decided to do it... ffs blizz why you do dis

[@Rawen1982]

I'm Alliance, but I agree, the Horde deserve to get a Warchief that doesn't just die or turn out to be a complete homicidal nutjob. She's giving Garrosh a good run for his money in the "being a complete dick" department.

[@db7073]

I still love Sylvanas 💜

[@rickh852]

So do what you guys should have done long ago and make the Tauren chieften War Leader. He's the only one level headed enough to lead anyway. IMAO.

[@cainabel6356]

Agreed, either that make Thrall the leader again.

[@Iqbalx1]

Rick H Baine is too soft to be warcheif

[@angrypickle]

Like what the players want matters to blizzard...

[@CrestOfArtorias]

The Horde cannot be redeemed, their actions rely on the warchief. You can have an honorable one like Thrall and peace might have a chance, but put in a weakling or a maniac like Sylvanas and all bets are off.

[@josemanuelrau8010]

World of Peacecraft doesn't sell.

[@rbdaddy003]

Where is Thrall?

[@Rexerax]

FOR THE HORDE!!!! I LOVE SYLVANAS AND SHE WILL HAVE MY AXE UNTILL THE END!!!

[@Leo-lx8bu]

Well im a horde main, looks like we have another SoO scenario imbound boys! Sigh, why did blizzard have to just crumple another horde character like this: 1: We have the most meaningless leaders going, besides Sylvanas, Thrall and Vol'jin, compared to the Alliance who have Genn, Tyrande, Anduin, Magni, Velen, who are all so much cooler lore wise imo, and certainly don't die to trash mobs... 2: Vol'jin dies to a bloody trash mob of all things 3: Thrall goes, nah mate cant wield this hammer anymore soz, so hes now just an orc ghandi. 4: Every expac turns the horde inside out, and the alliance remain unscaved...besides Varian and a baby faced king that likes to class switch, but ya know, I don't think that's comparable. 5: Now lazy writing once again kills off Horde spirits, like why?'

[@felixcalino]

I’m also a horde player and love Sylvanas as a character. But blizzard wtf!!!!!???

[@StudioZombieMan]

If you love her as a character and never cared about what she did in past... This should be ok for you

[@MadXOdin]

This could also be considered for a purpose , to kill the hope of the night elves and break their morale.

[@George2001k]

Her burning the tree didn’t hurt me as much as the quest after that part. I managed to save only 50 out of freaking 1000 citizens.... that was depressing....

[@forest470]

I got 86. got to say thow. simple quest with a lot of meaning. I was impressed.

[@George2001k]

Felipe Gregianin took me a while to understand what to do with the fires... so so sad

[@papabonedaddy4116]

Im not Laughing at you.....I freaking called it. Sylvanas Has Been a Baddie since after the death of the Lich king. Seriously... She Attacked Gilneas unprovoked. Simply because she needed more undead... She literally turned into the Lich Queen... I had hoped that she was turning a new Leaf after saving the Horde on the Broken shore....But alas...Good things always die hard.

[@SuzakuX]

She attacked Gilneas under orders from Garrosh, because he wanted their port. Also, can we stop with the "Lich Queen" shit? Her title is already "Banshee Queen," it's an inherent juxtaposition of the Lich King title.

[@cainabel6356]

True, she is becoming the very thing she hated, a Lich King Arthas.

[@papabonedaddy4116]

Red Sparrow nope. When you become that which you hate... its better to call someone something that is reminiscent of it. So I’ll continue to call her the lich queen.

[@papabonedaddy4116]

Hauke Holst If that’s true I get it... but at the same time she still turned many gilneans into forsaken... even garrosh called her out on it...

[@grim8079]

The Lich King did nothing wrong!

[@seanh1321]

Sorry but Sylvanas has got to go. She is literally the lich queen.

[@Ihaveaglitch]

Really? Because during this entire prepatch she has yet to raise one soldier from the dead despite having the power to do so.

[@valkyrja7988]

True, compared to the great Arthas Menethil she is just a little crazy emo XD

[@seanh1321]

Ihaveaglitch hahahah just wait till the battle for lordaeron.

[@valkyrja7988]

My fault, true

[@johanndysen4924]

Lich queen???? Tell to Bolvar

[@TreyCarterJJ]

Did you get the do the quest? The dialogue helps with some context. She was going to burn it regardless to push the alliance to respond emotionally.

[@TreyCarterJJ]

LOVE THIS

[@bloodhuff]

How nobody saw this coming? she was this evil since the beginning of WoW... she always acted in a selfish way, joined the Horde for convenience, developed a more powerful plague behind the warchief eyes (a plague that later would be used by Putress to exterminate as much Horde as Alliance members), attacked Gilneas without previous provocation (killing its heir to the throne in the proccess) slaughtered innocent humans of Hillsbrad Foothills just to bring them back to life to serve her... and so on... she was an interesting character during warcraft 3, but since wow released she is being like she is in this video, an evil flat minded generic comic villain...

[@nathanmccarthy9820]

bloodhuff anyone who knows Warcraft history and read the books would know why and supports this action

[@meesh11p]

Please explain why anyone should support her burning alive innocent civilians

[@nathanmccarthy9820]

meesh11p explain how long dose the horde have to watch alliances call to genocide and killing of children as well civilians before a leader fights back?

[@JustAChinesePleb]

bloodhuff W.h.a.t? Evil since the begining? No tf she wasn't, she was an amazing character that was the only one with the balls to stand up against Arthas - she even broke his will over her as first undead. It was in CATACLYSM that they messed up her character.. Either learn the lore or shut up, since you spew lies just to make our faction look better. Fan boys like you make me want to switch JFS. Also - she didn't want to kill the prince, he got in the way. Srsly were you playing or just clicking "complete" the whole time?

[@bloodhuff]

Jin the banana from the left Yes, yes, Evil since the beginning, "we are the forsaken we will slaughter anyone who stands in our way" in Vanilla you could see her experimenting shit with her Apothecary Society behind Thrall's eyes. She was the only one with the balls to stand up against Arthas? she doesn't break Arthas will in any moment, she gets back her consciousness because Frostmourne lost power, that's it. This is what she said back in Frozen Throne campaign: "For some reason I no longer hear the Lich King's voice in my head. My will is my own once again." And in WoTLK while Garrosh, Saurfang and the 7th Legion of the Alliance were fighting and trying to settle their headquarters, she was in the opposite corner of Northrend developing a more powerful plague (which you, the hero, help her to develope), a plague that later would be used (by Putress) in the Wrath Gate battle to kill EVERYONE, not just the Scourge..., you say "she kill the Gilnean prince because he got in the way", don't tell me, she was in Gilneas because she wanted to make friends, right? in the moment the gates came down she tried to destroy, conquer the kingdom and turn their citizens into undeads, xDDD what you say is absurd, also I said "she attacked Gilneas without previous provocation (killing its heir to the throne in the proccess)" I didn't say how the prince was killed so what you say can be true in my argument, if I have to learn about lore you should learn how to read my friend. Also people like you, always got nervous when someone say unpleasent truths about her, using excuses like "learn the lore /cry /cry, read the quest before clicking "complete" /cry /cry, you are a fanboy /cry /cry" but the funny thing is that you never talk with arguments, only insults, which make your point totally invalid right away, if you want to talk, let's talk, but the only thing you did in your comment was whinning without any logic and insult me. And you call me fanboy? XDDD

[@BlackSwanGamingTGK]

“ Alliance are loving my reaction right now “ Alliance are not loving any of you at the moment . FOR THE ALLIANCE !

[@aml7758]

No matter what Sylvanas did, I will always love her

[@RayRussell9]

same same

[@Firewire780]

Congrats sylvanas you're the new garrosh

[@Phentari]

"So, story team: we need a really great storyline for this expansion! Something really original!" "I know! How about this: the Horde Warchief responds to the threat of an Alliance city on Kalimdor by utterly annihilating it in a cataclysmic attack, thereby firmly establishing that the Horde are the badguys!" "Uhm...didn't we do that storyline already?" "Yeah, but that was three expansions ago! Nobody will remember!"

[@Gravewhisper]

again: There is no good&evil side in a war. You can't just call one side the bad guys, so you can feel justified slaughtering them!

[@Phentari]

...and yet, Blizzard seems to be dead set on doing just that.

[@skilfan]

I'm super salty as well. It's like they flipped the chaotic evil switch and said fuck it. In my opinion she really felt weak for the first time. I was kinda hoping she was the firestarter. She's a ruthless and calculating leader and that's absolutely something she would do.. Just not like that. Oh well. Too late now lol.

[@White0523]

Holy guacumoly i hade some shiver the whole video.. That night elf wasn't the only reason to Sylvanas burning down that Life tree. But what effects will the rest of the world get for losing the Teldrasil? How will it effects the continents?

[@deaththunder9678]

White0523 it isn't the real world tree anymore. The true world tree is in mount Hyjal.

[@White0523]

oooh.. i didn't think of that one

[@LinusAkaPano]

Deaththunder 96 You think there's only one world tree? There are literally multiple world trees that are connected across the world.

[@kingmarlexia]

"Were". Vordrassil was corrupted by Yogg'Saron and is in pieces. Nordrassil is alive but still massively weakened from Archimonde and Legion events. Teldrassil was never blessed by the aspects which is why it was purple. So we have 1, weak tree left

[@ScourgeTheInfernal]

Ok so we as the horde have Another Crazy warcheif

[@matekovacs876]

Garrosh did nothing wrong

[@H0PPUR]

If by crazy you mean "best" I agree

[@DivineAegis02]

I like what Whitemane tells Sylvanas in Heroes of the Storm ' You and the lichking are one in the same"

[@karlstrud8351]

Varimathras say the same in warcraft 3

[@MarkZeroGaming]

Whitemane is a batshit crazy religious zealot who thinks the Forsaken are still the Scourge.

[@BRWednesday]

I'm with you, I'm disappoint -.- PS - Congrats on the upcoming ORIGINPC. Will they be doing a live build for your new machine? I'd love to watch it

[@justinjacobson9837]

Well come on, Sylvanas is literally "The Dark Lady". She's straight up the darkest most sinister character in the series. She has her own agenda and the horde is her tool. Yeah she played along during Legion for the greater good, but now it's time to go to war and its ugly. I'm interested to see how far this goes.

[@TheWannawatch10]

I like how she acts like it's the first time shes watching it

[@kyvanrae]

I am surprised that everyone is so surprised about Sylvanas. Her motto is: Death to the living. What do you all think what that means? She wants to kill everything that lives, she wants to make them to Forsaken and who believes you will be after the Alliance? Ever thought of it?

[@matthewsteele99]

Sounds like she became Arthas

[@Knorkooli]

For the Alliance!!!

[@okdmrz]

This is one of my favorite reaction videos of yours simply because of how much emotion you actually show :D

[@ianblackburn75]

Hmm. I wonder what loot Sylvanas will drop. Dibs on her bow.

[@MarcoPeyrano]

Ian Blackburn she will drop Nathanos as a mount

[@Dreznin]

Well... who do you prefer next? Saurfang or Baine Bloodhoof? Saurfang would be a return to the traditional Horde ways while Bloodhoof would be a more fitting successor to Vol'jin. Personally, while I like Saurfang, I'd love to see Bloodhoof get the chance to instill more of the Tauren ways into the Horde as a whole.

[@gobbogirl713]

Neither. Glory to the Banshee Queen.

[@Jimboquacks]

The game is called warcraft. Not peacecraft with Baine as war chief. The horde and alliance would get along. I could only see that happening if Blizz decides to end the conflict between the 2 factions for good and have them always team up to fight the greater threat. Like they do every 2 expansions before fighting each again.

[@_VIP.NIC_]

THIS IS WAR! FOR THE HORDE!!

[@GulNadar]

Time to let Jaina and Greymane off the chain.

[@Yutani_Crayven]

Anduin already did that in Legion, where Greymane openly attacked the Warchief of the Horde. That's a large part of what led to the war, in the first place. Greymane started it.

[@Yutani_Crayven]

Which is perfectly fine - it's World of Warcraft afterall, not world of kumbayah. But, don't deny lore.

[@GulNadar]

@@Yutani_Crayven Spoken like a true hordie.

[@deluxxe123321]

This little horde player just got owned

[@d11thrashmetal]

What shade of grey is this?

[@papabonedaddy4116]

I'm actually Amused by the Shocked reaction of Hordies though... How did you not see this coming from Sylvanas? Seriously the Signs were all there that she was coocoo for coco puffs.... In the Quests leading up to this she literally tells you whats going to go down... She wanted the World tree....But instead she burns it out of spite because another elf said she couldn't kill hope.... Sylvanas….Did you learn NOTHING after the Original Horde killed Lothar.... We Don't lose Heart after Losing something.... We pick ourselves up and Kick ass even harder. You about to feel the Full Might of the alliance "Warqueef!!!" Prepare yourselves hordies….You wanted war....You got it! FOR THE ALLIANCE!!!

[@jasonthegame10]

Ahhh. Anduin Lothar. Yes I remember that. To think she fought for the Alliance during that war too. :|

[@papabonedaddy4116]

Yup. Youd think being an Elf shed remember something like that.

[@jasonthegame10]

Speaking of another elf saying Sylvanas couldn't kill hope. For some reason, it reminded me of what Genn said to Anduin during Legion. "Your father's actions were indeed heroic. They were his challenge to us, his people. To never let fear prevail, even at the very gates of hell."

[@NinjaFlibble]

Cause Blizzard was saying that who burned the tree would be "ambiguous"

[@CrestOfArtorias]

Destroying our symbols of hope will only make us hate you and hate is one hell of a motivator.

[@ServeMySoul777]

3rd Faction Incoming! For The Undead! Faction Leaders: Sylvanas, The Lich King, Bwonsamdi Drops Mic.....

[@katrinatbui]

OMG! Ur sooo right!

[@neverknowsbest6257]

Nailed It!!!!!!!!!!

[@demonpride1975]

why the hell would bwomsandi be part of that faction, he is a troll loa. that makes NO sense. SMH.

[@ServeMySoul777]

While I do see your point of Bwonsamdi being a loa and probably hating the undead for “stealing” his souls, wouldn’t it be cool to see him as a faction leader. Perhaps he strikes some sort of deal with Sylvanas and the Valkyrie.

[@dajointcf4803]

that would be dope

[@nitewolf948]

Although, gotta love Sylvanas

[@anthonydominguez4744]

You’re too biased , ofcourse the evil banshee queen is gonna do bad things when you give her power. Come Alliance , we have cookies

[@Pyro81s]

I wonder what Garrosh would do if he were alive.

[@jamescurfman3284]

Laugh. "Atta Girl!!!"

[@Pyro81s]

James Curfman Haha probably!

[@perenold3215]

He would marry her

[@fl3936]

"Kek"

[@SuzakuX]

He would probably say it was dishonorable and kill her. He was a very self-contradictory character.

[@segroot150pe]

I play a night elf and never been a real role player but when I did the quest to Evacuate citizens out of my burning home and only had 2 and a half min to get 982 people out, it hit hard how much I lover darnassus and now it's gone.

[@boredofvideogames]

lol you thought jaina was crazy eh? silly girl...

[@mole62ssf]

No honey I am not enjoying your distress. I am not enjoying seeing the Dark Lady reach this point of evil I've never seen in her. Of course you wouldn't think it was Sylvanas who burned the world tree. You love her. I love her. But she orders the burning. For whatever motivation she orders it. I've been sad over the BfA since first hearing it. I play both factions and have love on both sides. Though as you are a Horde-leaning human, I am at my core Alliance-leaning. I don't want this war. Was Legion not enough sorrow? Enough loss?

[@cainabel6356]

I wonder if the Alliance will accept factions of the Horde in the next expansion? I am for the Alliance, always have played the Alliance characters. A Night Elf.

[@Brahmaspot]

As a Hordie, sorry bout your home bruh. Warchief just lost her damned mind.

[@CrestOfArtorias]

Daeling Proudmoore warned us of the Horde, of the destruction they would bring, the death and sorrow that would follow in their wake. He was right. The Horde cannot be redeemed if they do not fundamentally change who they are and that is unlikely. "Peace is like a dream. Beautiful, ephemeral. Unobtainable"

[@ggdcsr]

The way I literally was so close to sobbing the first time I watched this is unreal. Your reaction describes exactly the way I felt lmao

[@JrKengu]

This is the badass SYLVANAS I LOVE. Coming from an alliance lol.

[@Einomar]

JrKengu Sure because being a cold murdering psycho is being badass... Grow up, trying to trigger people is very childish.

[@JrKengu]

Lol, sounds like you have some growing up to do. Calling other people childish over their opinion of a story inside a video game is the epitome of childishness.

[@joeyflubbermuffin7227]

I gotta admit... As an alliance player, I do love your reaction =)

[@joeyflubbermuffin7227]

But seriously, death to the horde. The horde menace *must* be stopped.

[@MarkZeroGaming]

Then come at us. Our axes are ready.

[@sparkpelt]

Where did you get your shirt???

[@moriakpotato]

"Many will not unda'stand"

[@ramsoncole4605]

I'm alliance 100%...but I always had a sense of respect for the Horde. Even though I thought the Horde was pretty heavy handed, they always acted with honor, and that, I respected. This is just unbelievable...or, just evil. Of all of the leaders of the Horde, I always thought that either Vol'Jin or Salvanas would make the best. Guess I was wrong. I feel sorry for the Horde players that have to somehow find validity in what she has done, the killing of thousands of innocent civilians, but not quite sure how you are going to do that...and the Horde druids, sorry.

[@BigLousClubhouse]

This was hands down the single best reaction you've EVER done!!!

[@solitariuslupus3311]

Love the hair!

[@Mayckie]

Well, I'm not suprised that she did that lol. #notmywarchief

[@HavocHounds1988]

Basically she orders the burning because it occurs to her that killing Malfurion would not be enough to demoralize the Alliance, So she amps it up.

[@nemeanlioness]

She died that day. Only an evil shade remains. The alliance will put her down!

[@DDIII3]

Not if the Horde gets to her first...

[@balfanghellfire]

The Horde stands at her side. Saurfang the traitor will soon be dealt with.

[@elearnej5524]

yea im pretty sure shes gonna be "removed" from office from the inside, something in the Q&A from Ian point to other leaders stepping up, to take charge.