Reactions to Judge Mandela Makaula's decision to postpone the Omotoso trial

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@nicholasbmhlabane4089
@nicholasbmhlabane4089 6 жыл бұрын
Don't worry South Africans, Omotoso is going jail, they are just delaying this to eat omotoso's money, He's loaded, they are just minimising it
@ntlakaniphoayanda7172
@ntlakaniphoayanda7172 6 жыл бұрын
it like you read my thoughts that true this lawyer is just eating Tomato Sauces money simply
@puseletsobofolo9745
@puseletsobofolo9745 6 жыл бұрын
me too Nicholas im thinking that,is how lawyers it some 1,s money
@mxolisiwilliams6178
@mxolisiwilliams6178 6 жыл бұрын
I can't agree more with you. Remember Oscar's trial/s
@justbie3094
@justbie3094 6 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@tebellobolofo856
@tebellobolofo856 6 жыл бұрын
He is going to jail but the question is how long is the sentence. These lawyers are not here for solely eating omotosos' money but to build their profile. And that is to get him sentenced to the minimum if not acquitted. It is clear that you see things in one eye. Look at the prosecutor...do you see him fit enough to win the case. Oscar went to jail because the prosecutors were very strong and not because of the facts. That is why the state appealed for the incorrect interpretation of dolus eventualis.
@nelisatitiya7299
@nelisatitiya7299 6 жыл бұрын
This Lawyer is the best ever
@portiamolelekeng9791
@portiamolelekeng9791 6 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna hire these lawyers when I get into trouble with the law. They are good shem
@mzwakhethenjwayo3618
@mzwakhethenjwayo3618 6 жыл бұрын
I share the same sentiments
@portiawoposhwownicesongntw2417
@portiawoposhwownicesongntw2417 6 жыл бұрын
Amabhulu siyawagxotha kwawona asilibelanga nto
@mathomesamuel801
@mathomesamuel801 6 жыл бұрын
In other words ur intending to break the law ?
@finance123
@finance123 6 жыл бұрын
they will just drag your case for so long while you are in custoty so that they can ejoy your money
@samkhumalo9487
@samkhumalo9487 6 жыл бұрын
if you can stand on the neutral position n not take side facing fact these lawyers a winning this case without a doubt
@tshililomaake9309
@tshililomaake9309 6 жыл бұрын
Ey first view lol #😁100% behind my beautiful strong women zondi💜love
@refiloeramushu478
@refiloeramushu478 6 жыл бұрын
He can say whatever. Am right behind her.support her my queen strong women #Zondi Cheryl
@sharonmafu6478
@sharonmafu6478 6 жыл бұрын
If judge excused that Duberman must also be excused he's vindictive mxxm
@mariaqumayo9442
@mariaqumayo9442 6 жыл бұрын
There are 42 girls victimised...not just Cheryl
@carolinenombula202
@carolinenombula202 6 жыл бұрын
Maria Qumayo I think she was the strongest witness that is why they started with her to give the others courage
@noahchego5727
@noahchego5727 6 жыл бұрын
And just using your mind it is clear that not all of them could lie.
@mariaqumayo9442
@mariaqumayo9442 6 жыл бұрын
@@noahchego5727 Exactally!!!
@mariaqumayo9442
@mariaqumayo9442 6 жыл бұрын
@@carolinenombula202 Yes!! I hope the other have gained that courage Now! Mxm...this domon must Him to hell. We are tiered of him now. 😭
@azania27
@azania27 6 жыл бұрын
No 47 left nw
@luckymhlongo5824
@luckymhlongo5824 6 жыл бұрын
This lawyer know their job!!!
@ntsikelelonqiki7374
@ntsikelelonqiki7374 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother 👍
@wellingtonjansen1869
@wellingtonjansen1869 6 жыл бұрын
There is an Egyptian proverb that says, "The Sword of Justice Never Rusts." Let us not get side-tracked and emotionally hyped up by the wheelings and dealings of the defense team. I believe that GOD Almighty is greater. I John 4:4 "Greater is He that is within us than he that is in the world" We are warned by the same Book that the 'man of god' is using to manipulate the vulnerable with: "Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap." Another scripture says the following, "For the time has come for judgement to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God? Now "If the righteous one is scarcely saved, Where will the ungodly and the sinner appear?" So friends, calm down. The Living God has it all in control. Let us continue to pray and ask God to let righteousness and justice flow like a stream in this case and all the other cases of fraud, corruption and murder. Enough said for now.
@_acjohn
@_acjohn 6 жыл бұрын
Absolute best comment, because my thinking is this, should a man of God be even caught near any such accusation(s) God forbid, the very scripture has warned us "Shun the very appearance of evil" no wonder God said through the Prophet Jeremiah that HE would shame any false prophet who goes out in His name, regardless of the legal tactics, God is fully at work, this is overly shameful for any man who says He is a child or disciple of the Living God. Shalom...
@goodenoughcele2068
@goodenoughcele2068 6 жыл бұрын
These lawyers know their story.The state got all the basics wrong.The charge sheet which is not as detailed will not hold in court.
@ndodamakayi5220
@ndodamakayi5220 6 жыл бұрын
goodenough cele Who's charge sheet are you talking about specifically...Zondi's? You do know that there are 41 victims in this case and they have their own charge sheets which may be detailed more that that the first witness's?
@goodenoughcele2068
@goodenoughcele2068 6 жыл бұрын
He mentioned the one for miss Zondi because she has already testified and if the charge sheet and her testimony are not talking to each other plus not as detailed.
@janifaferguson
@janifaferguson 6 жыл бұрын
We are talking about a young girl who from the age of 13 has been skilfully groomed, tempted and tenderised with the trinkets of fame and fortune all in the Name of The Almighty who is ONE with Pastor Omotosa. !!! There is no reasonable chance of 'chronological accuracy', nor 'locational accuracy' when the victim is a pubescent girl who has been enmeshed in a sophisticated and calculated web of mind and emotional control. The Hand of God is the same hand of the perpetrator and the victim's sense of shame, confusion and even her 'collusion' are typical of these kinds of abusive reltionships. What needs to be proved is not whether he penetrated her, but what his INTENTION WAS and WHAT HE WAS DOING WITH A CHILD WHO HAD NO WAY OF DEFENDING HERSELF OR HER 'DECISIONS'. Especially and I restate this, when the perpetrator does so...IN THE NAME OF GOD. The prosecution needs to stress this at all costs. There needs to be analysis of the cultural imprints and impact of patriarchal belief systems, religious authority and the exploitation and vulnerability of the child who has been taught that a Priest is a Holy Man, Chosen of God, and with God-Given Authority. The command to serve the Pastor, is to Serve God. In this case, sexually. This is a deeply- rooted belief construct that has defined the majority of abusive relationships within religious sects and organisations. A most skilful way to exploit the innocent and naive and a truly sick contamination and distortion of Christ's original teachings of dignified and respectful love, fellowship, kindness and compassion. May True Justice triumph.
@mzwakhethenjwayo3618
@mzwakhethenjwayo3618 6 жыл бұрын
I respect the Defence lawyers,they know law n they dnt use emotions n skin colour to look at cases.
@munhumutapa4243
@munhumutapa4243 6 жыл бұрын
They are actually good lawyers anyone who follows court cases or knows the law would agree they do have a case against the judge.The judge its true did go along with public sentiments he can deny it all he wants but its there for all to see.He has taken the role of the prosecutor himself I don't know why maybe because he sees the prosecutor is not sure of himself and can't handle that case.
@noahchego5727
@noahchego5727 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah u are right they only look after money not after facts,this white lawyers they are trying to manipulate the judge coz they have no chance of bribing him.
@munhumutapa4243
@munhumutapa4243 6 жыл бұрын
You wrong there bro those lawyers know what they are doing its the judge who is found wanting here. Use your brains to look at the case not your emotions.
@matthewchihota3307
@matthewchihota3307 6 жыл бұрын
True brother
@noahchego5727
@noahchego5727 6 жыл бұрын
OK bra as far as I look to the case using my mind not my brains I find nothing wrong the judge did,cause it is his responsibility to protect victims against abusive questions,If he let the victim being abused then he has no value to his job.As a LLB final student I c nothing wrong with the judge.
@mzwakhethenjwayo3618
@mzwakhethenjwayo3618 6 жыл бұрын
Our black lawyer (prosecutor) sounds lyk a fresh graduate from university of a low standard,Omotoso is likely to win this case,provided the judge is not n not biase...
@noahchego5727
@noahchego5727 6 жыл бұрын
Nah he has problem of slowing his rate of speech,but he has strong points and he is very very good in preparing witness .
@Nelly..28
@Nelly..28 6 жыл бұрын
@@noahchego5727 j
@saraluwisha2346
@saraluwisha2346 6 жыл бұрын
It is the incompetence of the prosecutor that even the judge had to intervene in the defence cross examination. But it will be unfair to reexam Cheryl again, I think the bar of state judges should look into this. Let her testimony stand and move on to the next witness. He can't have 42 witness against still maintain innocence his crazy. And if his innocent why was he hiding from authorities and in the ladies toilets. Stupid man may God have mercy on him for the lives he has destroyed
@joymusa6932
@joymusa6932 6 жыл бұрын
I blame their parents
@Ebony874
@Ebony874 6 жыл бұрын
These lawyers are extremely good and well prepared, compared to the State
@sharonm6660
@sharonm6660 6 жыл бұрын
I concur
@thabangmojapelo9711
@thabangmojapelo9711 6 жыл бұрын
true
@thekgi1349
@thekgi1349 5 жыл бұрын
Justice will prevail and thr rapist will rot in Jail.
@samkhumalo9487
@samkhumalo9487 6 жыл бұрын
i like the second lawyer bryce he understand that its not wat you say but how you say it n he ,makes valid points
@tefolesibacharles1tefolesi152
@tefolesibacharles1tefolesi152 6 жыл бұрын
wow I'm really educated by advocate Terry on the controversial issues relating to the testimony by Cheryl Zondo. The law of evidence in particular and the charges at hand.
@finance123
@finance123 6 жыл бұрын
the sad truth is that even if the incident of rape occurred, if u dont bring enough evidence to court the pepetrator will still walk free
@vincehorns7678
@vincehorns7678 5 жыл бұрын
You have to face the truth not try to hide with paper if the crime has being done then let law take its course!!!
@peteko4458
@peteko4458 6 жыл бұрын
the size of his pennies.. lol.. they should be very careful of those two giant attorneys.. they confidently know thr stories.. the state persecutor is very week and too small for those attorneys
@eliaslsimelane2387
@eliaslsimelane2387 6 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you
@Msakmani
@Msakmani 6 жыл бұрын
He stutters a lot. Omotoso willl walk free u will see
@nomhantumali6202
@nomhantumali6202 6 жыл бұрын
True
@nomxhosapekani7966
@nomxhosapekani7966 5 жыл бұрын
In the last episode of Law & Order (SVU) episode. A female defence lawyer was rapped, and she was so traumatized by the fact that she used to call victims liars. She heard every cruel word she said to those women as if they now had her on a trail. Was that Karma?
@4-give-nest176
@4-give-nest176 6 жыл бұрын
I dont understand how victims are expected to have kept a journal with exact details for something that happened repeatedly over a few years. Especially something you want to forget.
@4-give-nest176
@4-give-nest176 6 жыл бұрын
It is a human thing to mix up details of something that happened repeatedly. Even something you enjoyed doing. So this bloodly man just said it. Its all about the money. They too want to have a finger in omotosos filthy pie... Shame on them...
@sonwabilewiseman4506
@sonwabilewiseman4506 6 жыл бұрын
This Advocate guy talk sense if he was a leading man in the defence team a lot can.................
@maakepauline2284
@maakepauline2284 6 жыл бұрын
Daubberman wants second round with Cheryl.. probably he is not happy that he scored one on one with a black girl.Cheryl is gonna come back more stronger ..win or loose the fact remains that Cheryl is clever like Dubbermann said
@lulamanjuza
@lulamanjuza 6 жыл бұрын
Daubermann went and brought his friend who’s such a good lawyer lol Mr prosecutor better step it up 🙉
@enotes9
@enotes9 6 жыл бұрын
That prosecutor doesn't even know that Omotoso is a litigant in this case. smh! If this really happened, the SAPS and the prosecution have failed the victims big time.
@MzPanaJamica
@MzPanaJamica 6 жыл бұрын
Lulama Njuza They need to change the prosecutor to a white Persian because the black one is full of shit
@victortv2751
@victortv2751 6 жыл бұрын
this is a legal mind talking
@peaxdge3569
@peaxdge3569 6 жыл бұрын
Cases are won by merit neither colour of skin .where u come from or neither how many suppotters you bring to the remember truth is truth
@nomxhosapekani7966
@nomxhosapekani7966 5 жыл бұрын
In the last episode of Law & Order (SVU) episode. A female defence lawyer was rapped, and she was so traumatized by the fact that she used to call victims liars. She heard every cruel word she said to those women as if they now had her on a trail. Was this Karma?
@ncueeemaziee9856
@ncueeemaziee9856 6 жыл бұрын
Eishhh i want firstly to..🙄🙄aaah nkosiyamii...south africa
@jeremykapenda6980
@jeremykapenda6980 6 жыл бұрын
black lawyers and ministers number one suga dudy
@naletsanaele
@naletsanaele 6 жыл бұрын
The defense attorneys are very competent and watching Cheryl in court I felt her defense had not prepared her adequately for trial.I also wondered at the psychological aspect of things regarding the victims.I haven't yet seen any support, evaluation or interpretation if u will of the impacts of a minor ( 14 yr old) being groomed for sex given the socio economic status of the victims in this case.Meanwhile here in the UK the girls who had a case against the Asian sex grooming gang were more protected and supported.There is no chance they would have to give measurements of their abuser's private parts nor would they have been doubted for going back and forth to their abuser cos such is the workings of a mind tainted by abuse and influenced by religion and poor socio economic status.However I know that if the accused gets away with this relations between SA and Nigerians there will be strained cos so far there has been no remorse shown by the latter at all.If anything the accused looked rather cocky today in court, smiling,smirking and everything.He did abuse his power and took advantage of those girls.His attorneys are good but that doesn't change the fact that he is a nonce.Religion is on its last legs now.It harbors way too much evil.
@mannm950
@mannm950 6 жыл бұрын
I luv seeing how the black women there wear their hair. The judge in the court rocking her dreadlocks, and the news people wearing her Braves is amazing I would news anchors and stuff in America Got Away of straight weaves fur on their head its crazy. Many people have sold their soul for money and don't even realize it
@bsiezarbsiezar6245
@bsiezarbsiezar6245 6 жыл бұрын
Zondi's statements are also tainted, she should have braced herself for this because those advocates are not there to play games, this is not about emotions, or wathinta imbokodo thing, this is about facts, substantial evidence and truth not external influences, or biases or the "presence of a trompies police minister " that won't change the court proceedings as per constitution. And to this drunk looking police minister does this mean every so called victim who opens up a case gets police support this way stop politicking when its time not to do so people's lives are stake for the accused and victims. Your purpose is to fight crime take your presence to Manenberg im sure it will also mean millions there.
@olamade7096
@olamade7096 6 жыл бұрын
There is a saying that goes “ First learn how to justify yourself before you fight ” The problem with most black South Africans is that they don’t know when and where to complain.. If care is not taking Omotosho will win this case. Instead of thinking of how to get a better prosecuting/state lawyer and Judge you’re all here saying rubbish..The defense lawyer is vastly experienced than both the prosecutor and judge combined. There are thousands of instances where criminals won simply because of good defense. Keep your emotions out of this for now and focus on getting someone whose experience can match that of the defense lawyer, if not your ranting and mumbling here is useless and Omotosho might win the case...
@peteko4458
@peteko4458 6 жыл бұрын
true.. south Africans believes in mob justice. they don't look into the mater before they talk
@eliaslsimelane2387
@eliaslsimelane2387 6 жыл бұрын
100% correct
@richardmarakalala2817
@richardmarakalala2817 6 жыл бұрын
100% Correct
@marcusntapolebelo1551
@marcusntapolebelo1551 6 жыл бұрын
after he is sentenced come here again and say the prosecutor dont match the defense and the judge, Ok?
@olamade7096
@olamade7096 6 жыл бұрын
Marcus Ntapo Lebelo: typical
@jeremykapenda6980
@jeremykapenda6980 6 жыл бұрын
today there is war between pastors, some are from God and others from the world , if this world turn on one man there is nothing he can do, even jesus himself the world turned on him and he accepted to die innocent, this guy omotoso as also done a lot of great things, im not God to judge, many people specially in south africa go to church without knowledge of christianity, that y they fall in the hands of evil people
@_acjohn
@_acjohn 6 жыл бұрын
Are you serious??? You ever one heard or read that Jesus was caught in such a scandal? Does Shun the very appearance of evil ring a bell to you? God is not partial... He allowed him to be caught and exposed, that's what you should be thinking about, should a man of God ever be caught anywhere near such an allegation? A married one at that??? smh...
@kholisiwesithebe3287
@kholisiwesithebe3287 6 жыл бұрын
Good evening South African, Mr thimoty omotsong got the best lawyers advocate and this judge really from my professional is totally bias 100%, Zondi is a liar.
@lornaemery3598
@lornaemery3598 5 жыл бұрын
Look how the black man behind looking like he would slap the white off that man face when he said if he was in that bench he wouldn't believe a word she said...
@gracepeace2829
@gracepeace2829 4 жыл бұрын
The news is not going to report news saying it went in 4cm! I mean accused lawyers really ya'll a big joke
@nokwandangcobo8709
@nokwandangcobo8709 6 жыл бұрын
Okusalayo nje Omotoso is going to jail...one way or another... and I am sure of it...
@paulchweti6650
@paulchweti6650 6 жыл бұрын
I want him to go to jail mntasekhaya,but sadly I doupt if that will happen because the two defence lawyers are way stronger and experienced in this matter,,,,,Omotoso will go free and you can see that in his eyes that he knows his lawyers are taking care of everything
@mzwakhethenjwayo3618
@mzwakhethenjwayo3618 6 жыл бұрын
Omotoso waphiwa ikuku,yayeka lentombazane isonto n then yabuyela futhi ku Omotoso ngoba ifuna uku traveller naye n icula kule group...nobuka kahle la sishaywa ngemfe iphindiwe
@mariamthethwa8952
@mariamthethwa8952 6 жыл бұрын
His definitely!!!! SA the world is watching us.
@ndodamakayi5220
@ndodamakayi5220 6 жыл бұрын
Thenjwayo Mzwakhe A 14 year old gave her virginity to an old man who's old enough to be her grandfather? Uyaziva nje uba uthini? Let me ask you this: At the age of 14 years would you have slept with a woman that is your grandmother's age? Do you have children? To be specific do you have 14 year and below daughter or nieces? Would they also sleep with some grandfather you know in your area for any reason?
@Msakmani
@Msakmani 6 жыл бұрын
I also see him not going to jail. The evidence is not too strong to put him in jail. All the other witnesses will say the same thing. This man will win this case
@lindilinda6803
@lindilinda6803 6 жыл бұрын
Wow wow ow... I love this advocate Terry Price, He brought up very valid points.... He brought light He even said: "If I were sitting on that banch, I wouldn't believe a single word she said" He does have a point. This Sheryl Zondo is being hailed just for her good looks and people's personal prejudice against foreigners.... Nothing substantial about her testemony.
@finance123
@finance123 6 жыл бұрын
lol, because lawyers are paid to change your story and make it work in their adavantage, but that does not mean the victim is not telling the truth
@nthabisengmashile1888
@nthabisengmashile1888 6 жыл бұрын
Lemini iyeza nakuwe!
@mdungethulile
@mdungethulile 6 жыл бұрын
lindi linda I swear as a woman I felt the same way. If I was sitting on the bench Omotoso would be charged for a much lesser crime.
@sandiswahappiness7702
@sandiswahappiness7702 6 жыл бұрын
thank you
@sipheleletitisiyaya6389
@sipheleletitisiyaya6389 6 жыл бұрын
Umlungu 🤦🏾‍♀️Nje
@tiisetsothamaga9046
@tiisetsothamaga9046 6 жыл бұрын
the prosecutor is the one who must recuse himself, he's so lazy to do his job and now its affecting the judge bcz all those questions the judge dismissed they were supposed to have objected those kind of questions.
@clemencechibidi6488
@clemencechibidi6488 6 жыл бұрын
they were fair questions and thts why the prosecutor did not object. the judge intruded unnecessary, i am sure the judge is biased. the judge interrupted emotionally showing his bias.
@pearlmeso840
@pearlmeso840 6 жыл бұрын
Cherly mentioned America before she saw the ticket from Omotosos lawyer so there is no lie , as she corrected before he mentioned it
@kagabanickson9859
@kagabanickson9859 6 жыл бұрын
The judge is understandable its like is biasid person, but this white guy is good and reslistic lawyer l have ever seen really
@peaxdge3569
@peaxdge3569 6 жыл бұрын
Good explantion
@gracepeace2829
@gracepeace2829 4 жыл бұрын
Terry Price👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎
@sipheleletitisiyaya6389
@sipheleletitisiyaya6389 6 жыл бұрын
My presence means a million ,lol.
@pellomtirara8178
@pellomtirara8178 6 жыл бұрын
why on earth a man of God will stay will young girls and only young gilrs. .no young males why is that..and also the wife is not there why is that.
@babytee110
@babytee110 6 жыл бұрын
He works for his clients money🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@ntsikelelonqiki7374
@ntsikelelonqiki7374 4 жыл бұрын
What do u mean?
@munhumutapa4243
@munhumutapa4243 6 жыл бұрын
Why is the ministers going to court to sympathize with the victims.This is all wrong it does make the case appear to be biased against the accused.The minister's presence there will seen as to influence the outcome of the case in favour of the accusers.
@bonginkosissithole1470
@bonginkosissithole1470 6 жыл бұрын
That chocolate Nigeriean behind the lawyer is claim to be a former drug lord, why was he not arrested.
@melodyphakathi965
@melodyphakathi965 6 жыл бұрын
Good point . But it's amazing how woman are sticking together as one and supporting each other .
@munhumutapa4243
@munhumutapa4243 6 жыл бұрын
Women must support one another I agree with that but it must not be blind support just because every woman is going along with it.The ability to think and rationalize issues is the biggest tool to fight injustices not being because emotions are running high. Most people who are supporting Cheryl Zondi are infatuated with her looks and tough girl character turning a blind eye to that she is capable of deceiving as she has admitted herself.
@Pazvagwamunhumashokoanowanda
@Pazvagwamunhumashokoanowanda 6 жыл бұрын
Western Government would send ministerial officials to rescue convicted criminals in foreign lands; what's wrong with this minister backing citizens within his borders?
@munhumutapa4243
@munhumutapa4243 6 жыл бұрын
That's a internal court case nothing to do with foreign diplomacy or UN .The minister is responsible for the victim as well accused.By constitution he is supposed to stand for everyone who is in South Africa he is part of law makers .Simpiwe Dana did mention it yes justice must take its course but also we musn't be seen to be xenophobic .Words coming from a musician who is not a member of parliament but as a musician she knows she has a moral obligation to be fair and impartial though she was there for the girl child.That is what I call women empowerment the ability to separate emotions and rational thinking.
@dinkem1740
@dinkem1740 6 жыл бұрын
Lomlungu uyabheda nje. Sies
@puseletsobofolo9745
@puseletsobofolo9745 6 жыл бұрын
@Dinkie lomlungu ofuna nje ukuqeda le mali ka Omotoso bese uygwetywa .watch
@dinkem1740
@dinkem1740 6 жыл бұрын
@@puseletsobofolo9745 🤣🤣🤣 hai! Let's just wait & c iya njani le case. Mayiphele lamali 🤣
@fikilehlatshwayo9150
@fikilehlatshwayo9150 6 жыл бұрын
Totally bollocks what this man talking about
@sharonmafu6478
@sharonmafu6478 6 жыл бұрын
Keep making noise he's going to jail
@paulchweti6650
@paulchweti6650 6 жыл бұрын
I want him to go to jail,but I doupt that will happen bro,the two lawyers are good,and the is no way that they can just put him in jail with no havy evidence that he is guilty.
@nthabisengmashile1888
@nthabisengmashile1888 6 жыл бұрын
One of the good days are coming their way. Their families will be raped one day.nxaaa
@enotes9
@enotes9 6 жыл бұрын
The noise outside the court will not have an influence on the trial outcome. Fortunately, we have a very good system of justice still. It isn't street justice like the USA or Canada on these cases. The drums and songs are to no effect.
@marcusntapolebelo1551
@marcusntapolebelo1551 6 жыл бұрын
lol Thank you
@thabangmojapelo9711
@thabangmojapelo9711 6 жыл бұрын
I don't like Both Amotoso and this Zondi girl, they are both liars but the Judge not impatial, he must be recused
@scorch2386
@scorch2386 6 жыл бұрын
lol, I'm with you here
@FA-jw1sx
@FA-jw1sx 6 жыл бұрын
I think you might have a point.
@simamkelesomlota5476
@simamkelesomlota5476 6 жыл бұрын
why are you saying that?
@thabangmojapelo9711
@thabangmojapelo9711 6 жыл бұрын
+Simamkele Somlota why am I saying what in particular
@ndodamakayi5220
@ndodamakayi5220 6 жыл бұрын
Thabang Mojapelo on what point precisely was the judge not impartial in his remarks and arguments....by wishing the victim good luck on her academic exams and that she was there for justice and that she shouldn't worry and stress herself about the case proceedings anymore because in the end justice will prevail? So how is that bias? In the question of penis centimetres where no one can really answer to that question unless they were having a measuring tape to measure the perpetrator's penis during the intercourse was also flawed on the defense attorney's side and the judge was correct to dismiss that question. Now I'm really trying to look at where the judge was bias in any way because he did his atmost job to filter out the unnecessary questioning towards the witness. Now my second argument, no matter how Cheryl grew to accept the conditions of the perpetrator in his church and house but at the time it first happened she was only 14 and her rights as a child to religious practices were abused. So many psychological elements have to take part in this case such as traumatic effects in an adolescent stage life. We must also bare in mind as to the stages of brain development and compare it to the stage where Cheryl first developed the guts to to protest the actions of the man who is old enough to be her grandfather and who was her religious leader.
@pellomtirara8178
@pellomtirara8178 6 жыл бұрын
it's so clear that mothoso did rape zondi...the fact that she doesn't remember the dates because trauma but the fact remain that he did..
@TsheM
@TsheM 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know law, but I do know I don't have to carry a tape measure in my bag just in case I get raped.What does this lawyer mean that we don't know what is happening in court.I know for sure I have a right to walk in SA without a tape measure in my bag against any sexual violation.Daubermann should face the human rights court for nonsensical questioning.
@mzwandilentshangass8530
@mzwandilentshangass8530 6 жыл бұрын
I truly understand the duties of the lawyer but the only thing that ll make is easy si to bring the numbers of girls that has an evidence
@enotes9
@enotes9 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed and so far it's zero evidence.
@munhumutapa4243
@munhumutapa4243 6 жыл бұрын
Because you were not listening to the whole testimony that is why you think the lawyer is wrong.Cheryl Zondi did say it herself that the pastor knew she was a virgin and was very cautious not to go deep .She said he was playing in between her clitoris and thighs and even said no penetration took place so I don't know if you are really following details or just want to see a foreign pastor get found guilty.
@TsheM
@TsheM 6 жыл бұрын
munhu mutapa.Dude which trial are you following?¿?
@TsheM
@TsheM 6 жыл бұрын
munhu mutapa .Daubermann literally used the word 'centimeters'.Im going to assume you did not go past grade 1 because the instruments used to measure centimeters are a ruler or a tape measure.I hope you know those!
@pellomtirara8178
@pellomtirara8178 6 жыл бұрын
judge makaula..fight for justice please don't let them get away with under mianing your skin colour. ..please
@jedidiah6510
@jedidiah6510 6 жыл бұрын
What delay of justice??? The state is the one who has been delaying this matter and therefore have delayed justice for both parties. They took a more than a year to prepare and are still not prepared..
@winniemogaki9194
@winniemogaki9194 6 жыл бұрын
# to zondi.we love u..#to our intelligent judge
@fortunatebaloyi2812
@fortunatebaloyi2812 6 жыл бұрын
So for the fact that Omotoso can afford smart lawyers who can deffend him and change the story of the victim into something that doesnt make sense..
@nontsikelelokhathi7426
@nontsikelelokhathi7426 6 жыл бұрын
this guy is changing his tune?
@josephvarmah8886
@josephvarmah8886 5 жыл бұрын
Will he (pastor) be ask the measurement of his penetration since Cheryl was asked by defense if she knew the measurement of his penetration?
@keletsomoshoeshoe4781
@keletsomoshoeshoe4781 6 жыл бұрын
Aag this is nonsense
@3632-i8g
@3632-i8g 6 жыл бұрын
So the the new lawyer came with intellectual arguments about the case and all over the sudden Cheryl statement is weak... balance me here real quick nothing that this lawyer says can be proven it's another side of the story...another thing is rape is rape guys wether it happened at 15 or 14 it's still rape if omotoso did those things he must face justice if not he must be released....my worry about all of this is the behaviour of the man of God as his lawyer says that omotoso has not plead to anything to me that sounds like someone trying to hide something...lets not forget he calls himself a pastor which in my view of Christianity makes it more bad because I assume he preaches that people should not fornicate and what about his wife...all I am saying let's open our ears because lawyer are paid to argue any case
@finance123
@finance123 6 жыл бұрын
the thing is lawyer are trained to make your statement weak to win the case, they will try by all means to make make everything that come out of your mouth untruthful
@enotes9
@enotes9 6 жыл бұрын
The testimony was weak. Everyone who understands rules of evidence knows her testimony was weak. He may just be the first one YOU heard saying it so far.
@judecharlesnonso9378
@judecharlesnonso9378 6 жыл бұрын
exactly she is neither here or there just babbling words.
@stellangoka7032
@stellangoka7032 5 жыл бұрын
The kingdom of omotoso has fallen,mene_mene_tekel_peres
@menzelamadolo7213
@menzelamadolo7213 6 жыл бұрын
Hahsuka
@mwimarose5799
@mwimarose5799 6 жыл бұрын
Where was his wife living giving him space to do all these dirty games
@sheronmaripane9045
@sheronmaripane9045 6 жыл бұрын
Omotoso,omotoso,heeee how many times did I call u? Jesus s watching u,see now u hv been exposed,no ONE I repeat No One will mess around Jesus name n get away with it....M worning u.
@gabriellamula
@gabriellamula 6 жыл бұрын
Ayi this Omotoso man might win this case , I wish the victims advocate was as clever as Douberman and Mr price . This isn't fair at all the victims advocate we can't hear or even understand him when he delivers statements , he isn't taken seriously . Who is fighting for the victims ? Enca please tell your reporter Thulas or whatever his name is that the guys name isn't Omotosho its Omotoso let him pronounce the surname right oo
@topcattc76
@topcattc76 6 жыл бұрын
Gabriella Mulaudzi pronounced Omotosho,Thulasizwe is right.
@gabriellamula
@gabriellamula 6 жыл бұрын
@@topcattc76 ayi his not
@samkhumalo9487
@samkhumalo9487 6 жыл бұрын
you correct i see omotoso getting away with this rape case his lawyers a brilliant compared to these useless state lawyer hes messing up a good case after Cheryl created a good foundation on this case and it was his opportunity to create a good profile for him self as a state lawyer
@gabriellamula
@gabriellamula 6 жыл бұрын
@@samkhumalo9487 exactly
@judecharlesnonso9378
@judecharlesnonso9378 6 жыл бұрын
omo will win d case zondi is contradicting herself.is all lies cook white lies.
@pellomtirara8178
@pellomtirara8178 6 жыл бұрын
you lieng maarn she sad the first time. .you just trying to let omothoso get away with what he did
@xolelwamdledle6108
@xolelwamdledle6108 6 жыл бұрын
Hay wethu Noba yintoni lo mfundisi lixoki ungcolile
@clemencechibidi6488
@clemencechibidi6488 6 жыл бұрын
This false prophet could be guilty, I don't want to quickly justify a non-believer like him because an unbeliever can do anything. I call him a false prophet not because of these charges being laid against him but because of his false church doctrine e.g allowing women to dress immorally. However and honestly speaking i am becoming suspicious of rape victims who cry foul some so many years later after the incident and esp many incidences. I think we must go back to our hue n cry doctrine regardless of age and circumstances.
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