Barbara - L'aigle noir, Nantes et Göttingen (Châtelet, 1987) - REACTION - wow

[@cmoiden37]

il y a 3 chansons en realité l aigle noir nantes (ou il pleut sur nantes) et notinguem la 1ere elle parle de son enfance (elle a ete violee par son pere) la 2eme parle de son retour a nantes a la mort de son pere et la 3eme parle de sa tournee en alemagne (elle etait juive) ou elle a eut beaucoup d a prioris et elle a eté tres bien recue (je resume )

[@alainliebmann2531]

If you don't speak French it is complicate to appreciate Barbara because there is double meaning and the subject is delicate

[@franckmichel9241]

At the concert she was dying, and knew it. She wanted to see her audience one last time who were waiting for her. She had left the stage many years ago because her voice had broken. She had a beautiful voice. In this concert it mixes the tragedy of his death, his lost voice, but also the reunion before a long departure...

[@crowblank1]

There is a lot to say about the song "L'aigle Noir". Some will say that the metaphor speaks of the incetuous relationships that her father would have inflicted on her, Another version of the facts would be linked to the violence that the Nazi gestapo would have inflicted on her during the WW2 because she was Jewish. All this is still quite vague.

[@Isengrim_IV]

Happy you were able to catch the deap meaning of each of this 3 songs. FYI : Göttingen is a town in Germany. Barbara whrote the song in 1964, less thant 20 year after the WW2 where she has to hide to survive as a jewish child. This song has also a german version and has become a symbol to Franco-German reconciliation.

[@laurentbougeot3888]

Vous êtes pleins de sensibilité et de bienveillance...Merci🥰

[@ac8907]

Une grande dame, rip Barbara, we love you .💙🤍❤

[@KrokisMtl]

Even for a french native, she has a unique way to pronounce and sing. Not always easy. But beautiful, meaningful and sad songs.

[@scrapanarchy7258]

Just crying by listening those wonderful songs !!!

[@evetoutsimple3338]

Bonsoir, une survivante à tous niveaux. RIP

[@fande...Angelina]

Oh man, I Know Barbara, I love Barbara, I was so sad when she passed away, I know her songs, and right now I'm crying !!!

[@laurentbougeot3888]

Je vous envoie un petit mot de réconfort de France et vous adresse comme l'aurais fait Barbara quelques pensées pétries de tendresse. Laurent

[@Tiisiphone]

I was lucky enough to see her on stage. Her voice is mesmerizing, both powerful and fragile. A great artist, unfortunately her childhood was tragic, as many comments already explained.

[@direlyon]

GREAT artist. so sensitive...so true

[@PIEbla84]

Amazing artist,beautiful songs....

[@cedricthire9247]

barbara a legend of French song like Brel, Ferré, Brassens. Strong texts and a presence. and you're right a Goddess. So i like you re channel

[@helenemurard1215]

You heard 3 distinct songs & a distinct way of singing..yes, she was a legend

[@olivierolivier6080]

I cried when she died, i remember the very moment, I was awaiting my train and crying like a child on the platform. She was a true artist, something different,

[@jeanmichelmoulin7532]

La grande dame noire lumière, vous me manquez toujours. J'ai eu le bonheur d'assister à l'un de ses derniers concerts qui reste un souvenir précieux. Tant de belles chansons, pour n'en citer qu'une "Mon enfance" qui chaque fois me mets les larmes aux yeux. A souligner, elle était aussi très drôle.

[@arianemartin9659]

Il me semble que ce concert etait ses adieux a la scène en public ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@fredericvolatil8910]

Göttingen is a French song by singer-songwriter-pianist Barbara, a hymn to peace, Germany, and Franco-German friendship. It should be noted that Barbara was deeply marked by her childhood in Paris, where she had to hide with her Jewish family to escape the Holocaust during the occupation of France by Germany during World War II. This song says that the children who fell at Gottingen are the children of the world.

[@OlivierM-c3g]

Born Monique Serf in June 1930 in Paris, Barbara (her stage name) was and still is a legend concerning French songs. The accent you notice may be that of Paris immediately after WW2, such as "Titi parisien", "Montparnasse" or "Saint-Germain des Prés" (her singing is closer to that of Juliette Gréco's rather than Maurice Chevalier's or Edith Piaf's). She wrote songs that do belong to French culture and everyone will know, hum, or sing them. L'aigle noir (the black eagle) is her most popular song, tons of legends surround it but no, it is definitely not a song about her incestuous father. "Nantes" is about her father's death in that city in Normandy. She had lost contact with him for decades but before he passed away, he asked to see her on his deathbed. She arrived a few hours too late unfortunately, and that's the gist of this song. As a Jewish teen, she had to hide to escape Nazi repression, most of her family were murdered in death camps but she managed to escape both the German authorities and the French police. "Göttingen" is a love letter to Germany, through the city of Göttingen. Despite the horrors of WW2, Barbara says that love must overcome everything. She used to sing a lot in Germany and had a few songs translated into German, including "Göttingen". The German audience loved her, and "Göttingen" is a tribute to that friendship. "Should we be again under alarm and have to grab weapons, my heart would be crying for Göttingen", she sings, before concluding that children are children, whatever the country they are raised in. I'm still living 15 minutes away from her countryside estate. I cried when she passed away in November 1997, and I'm still crying while writing these words. We miss her. I miss her. Her nickname was La longue dame brune, the tall dark-haired lady.

[@maloryp4]

Nantes, city of Normandie ???

[@eliseprevost2233]

Monique Serf, known as Barbara she died on November 24, 1997, another classic French singer and many beautiful songs, Her life is very sad and her father was a real a**hole who started raping her when she was 10 No one reports incest in their family . Then, in Brittany, she runs away and goes to the police station. She is listened to but her complaint is not recorded. Her father comes back to get her and suggests that she is making things up. In 1949, when she is only 19, her father leaves the family home for good, thus putting an end to the violence.

[@thierrysanchez3161]

Quelle merveille Barbara ... Cette femme est la quintessence de la créativité française ... Cette femme est une merveille ...

[@fredts796]

Yes there were 3 songs. And yes, the black eagle was her father. Love to you all, from France ❤

[@LetsChillPage]

Hi Uncle D, 🌴🌞 Regarding “L'aigle Noir,” it is helpful to specify that a psychologist (...Sic!) developed this thesis according to which this song would speak of the acts of her father, of which she was a victim during her childhood. In reality, these remain wild ideas (not what she suffered, which is maybe accurate, and yet, nothing is less specific because she never spoke about it to those around her, but she'd have mentioned this fact in a very indirect way in her unfinished book of memories published after her death without her approval) about a personality lacking success who wanted to draw attention to him. In any case, thank you for reacting to my late mom's favorite female singer. Peace, folks. ☮👈😎

[@serkering8712]

Göttingen is an hymn to French-German friendship

[@kristianmapage9742]

Yes, Barbara has an aura that has irradiated all generations of musical artists, from the most rock to the most pop, French song. The lyrics are so accurate, precise, timeless. Try "My most beautiful love story is you" Ma plus belle histoire d'amour c'est vous.

[@victorhorta4399]

A great Lady a legend!

[@olivierperruchot7442]

Dear D. I'm so impressed you could feel that she is someone out of all the other singers. She's is barbara ! And with your little french you understood the most important about her and her life ! Talent is universal. Keep on with other french songs and I'll give you French nationality as you express such an harmony between french culture and you.

[@cynthiagauthier8897]

So beautiful and emotional songs from a great artist. It was long before the fake voices we have today with no poetry.

[@ThessaJean]

She represents so much the old Paris Montmartre its poets its painters and literature it is our lady in black.

[@josemora5917]

grande chanteuse qui suis Piaf de très près . on ne peut pas ne pas aimer Barbara .

[@arielquarante]

Yes... Others already comments that L'Aigle Noir would be a song telling about when Barbara was abused by his father. Nantes (the name of the a french town) is about when she came for her father funeral...

[@pamartlaurent3393]

One fine day or perhaps one night Near a lake I had fallen asleep When suddenly, seeming to pierce the sky And coming from nowhere A black eagle appeared Slowly, with wings spread Slowly, I saw it whirl Near me, in a rustling of wings As if fallen from the sky The bird came to land He had ruby-colored eyes And feathers the color of night On his forehead, shining with a thousand lights The crowned king bird Wore a blue diamond With his beak he touched my cheek Into my hand he slid his neck It was then that I recognized him Emerging from the past He had come back to me Say the bird, oh say, take me back Let's go back to the land of yesteryear As before, in my childhood dreams To pick, trembling Stars, stars Like before, in my childhood dreams Like before, on a white cloud Like before, lighting the sun Being a rainmaker And doing wonders The black eagle with a rustle of wings Took flight to regain the sky One fine day or perhaps one night Near a lake I had fallen asleep When suddenly, seeming to pierce the sky And coming from nowhere A black eagle appeared One fine day, or was it a night? Near a lake I had fallen asleep When suddenly, seeming to pierce the sky And coming from nowhere A black eagle appeared One fine day, one night Near a lake, asleep When suddenly Emerging from nowhere A black eagle appears One fine day, one night Near a lake, asleep When suddenly He came from nowhere He appeared the black eagle One fine day, one night Near a lake, asleep He came from nowhere He appeared the black eagle

[@GuyWets-zy5yt]

I saw her on stage in Brussels mid 70ies...magic

[@podcasthastings9501]

When you consider that "The Black Eagle" is a song about the rape she suffered at the hands of her father, it adds a whole new dimension to her performance.

[@TheFaruk2]

She was incredible ❤

[@TerabKult]

Magnifique chanson, aux paroles très tristes, qui retracent ses viols par son père.

[@chrisgilla]

Bien meilleures versions ci-dessous. "L'aigle noir" : kzbin.info/www/bejne/apnIfpmJas-Hrrs "Nantes" : kzbin.info/www/bejne/monUioV-hKh0aLs (mouchoirs indispensables !) Christian.

[@cleiophane2287]

Très bon choix 👍

[@begaydocrime5719]

the black eagle is in fact a metaphor for her father, and yeah, she WAS his victim, and part of it happened while they were actively hiding from nazis. This woman had an unbelievably traumatic childhood.

[@jfmouton]

cette chanson est juste magnifique, Barbara est époustouflante, cette chanson retrace l'agression incestueuse qu'elle a subit petite par son pere

[@sandrinecozic7214]

Elle chantait sa vie...

[@reynaldparisel3852]

Jamais accroché à sa façon de chanter, mais elle avait un vrai talent d'écriture. Une grande dame (un peu perchée) !

[@mamanpatin3536]

Thank you ❤

[@arnaudlevoyageurhorrifique]

a cool now your experienced the concept of compilation video (that i plan to send you in the future) :)

[@nox8730]

She is another french singer, like Edith Piaf, who had a tragic life and a tragic death. But as opposed to Piaf, she wrote her songs herself. It is hotly debated what the real meaning of the lyrics for 'l'aigle Noir" really is. One thing is for sure: the song is not about a black eagle.

[@pascalschark7875]

Monique Serf 1930-1997. Author, composer, singer. Barbara is the name she choose for the scene.

[@surlestyx]

Barbara 😢❤

[@zaltman8978]

She was the "french female Johnny Cash". 😪

[@olivierolivier6080]

I was at this concert in Chatelet hall: L'Aigle Noir is about past fantasmas coming back, Nantes is about her father's dying and Gottingen is about franco-german reconciliation

[@lesfreresdelaquote1176]

J'ai vu ce même concert à Montpellier, mais je ne me souviens pas de la date... C'était inoubliable...

[@chrisgilla]

Bonjour "Reactions by D" (bizarre comme pseudo !) A propos de la vidéo "L'aigle noir, Nantes et Göttingen" il y a un mois. Pour bien comprendre l'importance, l'intensité des chansons "L'aigle noir" et "Nantes" il faut savoir qu'elles sont en relation avec ce qu'a subi BARBARA dans son enfance. Cela n'a été connu qu'après sa mort. Elle a été violée pendant des années par son père durant son enfance. "L'aigle noir" exprime ses traumatismes à travers des images métaphoriques. (Page Wikipédia) "Nantes" est une chanson de Barbara, écrite et composée en 1963, enregistrée en 1964. Historique Le 21 décembre 1959, Barbara apprend que son père Jacques Serf, qui avait quitté Paris une décennie auparavant pour Nantes sans laisser de nouvelles est mort à l'hôpital Saint-Jacques au sud de la ville où il était hospitalisé pour soigner une tumeur cérébro-spinale. Rongé par la honte pour la relation incestueuse qu'il a fait subir à sa fille alors qu'elle a dix ans et demi, Jacques Serf avait sombré dans la dépression et l'alcool. Marginal et solitaire, il vivait de petits boulots (docker, marine marchande) et finissait ses soirées dans d'interminables parties de poker Elle écrira dans ses mémoires inachevés «Il était un piano noir…» publiés en 1998 : «J'oublie tout le mal qu'il m'a fait, et mon plus grand désespoir sera de ne pas avoir pu dire à ce père que j'ai tant détesté : "Je te pardonne, tu peux dormir tranquille. Je m'en suis sortie, puisque je chante" ». Au lendemain de l’enterrement dans une fosse commune du cimetière Miséricorde (le principal cimetière nantais), elle commence l’écriture de la chanson Nantes, qu’elle terminera près de quatre ans plus tard, quelques heures avant son passage au théâtre des Capucines le 5 novembre 1963. La chanson paraît en dernière place de l'album "Dis, quand reviendras-tu ?". Hommage La "rue de la Grange-au-Loup" mentionnée dans la chanson comme étant le lieu de décès de son père n'existait pas à l'époque. Elle sera créée une vingtaine d'années plus tard, le 22 mars 1986, lors de l'inauguration en présence de la chanteuse et de Gérard Depardieu, de cette rue située dans le quartier de Saint-Joseph de Porterie non loin de celui de la Beaujoire, où Jacques Serf habitait avant son décès. Quatorze ans plus tard, le 9 décembre 2000, l'allée Barbara était inaugurée non loin de là, comportant un buste et une fresque évoquant l'artiste. Préparez vos mouchoirs et maintenant écoutez ces 2 chansons avec des sous-titres. Cordialement. Christian.

[@lappentisdeklem8589]

Merci pour vos explications.

[@TerabKult]

monumental !

[@darkside-ps8pw]

cette chanson est un rappel du viol qu'elle à subit de son père = de son bec il a touché ma joue, dans ma main il a glissé son cou this song is a reminder of the rape she suffered from her father = with his beak he touched my cheek, in my hand he slid his neck """" vraiment très dur de mettre des mots sur un viol et Barbara l'a fait avec cette belle et terrible chanson """"""" it's really hard to put rape into words and Barbara did it with this beautiful and terrible song"""""""""

[@sylvielacouture7753]

I'm delighted that you're listening to this great artist that Barbara was. There's so much more to discover! Serge Régiani Yves Montand Jean Ferrat....

[@linareddingthon]

the firsst song is said that it's about what happened to her when she was a child during the night while sleeping (the R word by her father) ....

[@franciscouderq1100]

You must listen to that by her in the 70’s was a lot greater to my opinion even tho it s not her best song unlike “Pierre” or “la salle des ventes” , “Vienne” and on a somber note “le Sommeil”,” Nantes”, “Gottingen”, and so many more In short a whole new horizon of as delightful and well written songs as french speaking composers did during this Golden times

[@LaCatesse]

L aigle noir c est une metaphore pour son père qui a abusé d d'elle dans son enfance. Sa voix en 87 n etait plus la même 😢

[@zorbeclegras5708]

The song "l'aigle noir" tells of a dream. From a psychoanalytical point of view, it has been linked to the rape that her father committed on her following written confidences towards the end of his life, but the hypothesis of the connection with the song has never been validated (or invalidated) by the singer. Spending her childhood hidden in the countryside because she was Jewish during the Nazi occupation can also be an explanation, the black eagle recalling the German emblem. But interpretation is only supposition, even projection. Barbara alone could have really enlightened us on this subject. Finally, the mystery surrounding this song, its dreamlike, even symbolic side continues to exert a power of fascination on the listener.

[@begaydocrime5719]

she was already tired and her voice was damaged by that point, but she was also a massive star

[@baudricourtphilippe1310]

Châtelet 87

[@mariolamazur9814]

👏👏👏

[@nex4330]

She is a legend like Piaf like Brel like Greco like aznavour

[@bsirta5824]

Nice reaction. IMHO, Barbara, whose real name was Monique Serf, had one of the most mesmerizing voices, and composed the most beautiful texts, in the last century. She was an eccentric genius, definitely not interested by any kind of notoriety, and was sometimes compared with Leonard Cohen. These three songs were performed in the last part of her carreer, in Paris, probably the reason why the audience seemed so excited....

[@philippefritz679]

il faudrait écouter des versions ou elle avait sa voix d'origine là sans doute très souffrante c'est émouvant mais tragique aussi

[@freyc1]

This is moving, but you should check out what she sounded like when she was younger, before her voice broke.

[@KahlieNiven]

Yes, Barbara was a legend over french music (as some other ones: Françoise Hardy, try Mon Amie la Rose , Michel Sardou, France Gall -I recommand you "Les sucettes à l'Anis .. with subtitles- , Aznavour, Sylvie Vartan, Ballavoine and of course Brel and Piaf). My best friend is a fan, personally I was not into that kind of music...slowly changing with age.

[@JeanlucPerez-u3g]

You right she s a legend. Gotingen IS a german city . She was a close Friend to Jacques Brel. 3 songs , you need subtitles ...

[@funambuline19]

Ce ne sont vraiment pas les meilleurs versions ....elle est agée et fatiguée, sa voix tremble et bonjour les fausses notes! Barbara dans ses débuts, c'est tellement plus beau à écouter !

[@Babe01D]

Pour info, « l’aigle noir » parle de l’inceste qu’elle a subi! Tellement triste mais merveilleuse chanson. Merveilleuse Barbara

[@hasturx1]

You are right black eagle was her incestuous father or most a fantasmagoria she created to flee from him. And you are right, she is a goddess.

[@fabiendemarseille]

C'est mieux d'écouter la version studio de Barbara pour beaucoup mieux l'apprécier en concert 👌

[@leconv]

l'aigle noir is a beautifull song. sadly, it tells the tragic tale of the singer who was raped by her father when she was young.

[@naama4]

Une chanson obscure que l'Aigle Noir, car on n'a jamais su le sens avec certitude. Beaucoup on dit que ça parlait de son père incestueux... elle a toujours su chanter comme une même personne peut être quelqu'un que vous aimez, et quelqu'un qui vous détruit en même temps. Une triste vie pour cette pauvre dame en noir, comme on la surnommait, sacrifiée par ce père à l'âge de 10 ans....

[@vincentjacobs8238]

Lara Fabian does a cover of the last song Gottingen. There are different versions of her cover. All great of course according to Lara's fans at least... You may want to test react to this cover.

[@marceortiz1871]

Pardon mais lui donner la version live est toujours une erreur, car l'artiste improvise plus la mélodie et part du principe que le public connait la chanson. Les versions studio sont plus claires et permettent à un gars qui ne connait pas la chanson d'avoir une mélodie claire ainsi qu'une diction qui l'est tout autant, il faut se mettre à la place de celui qui découvre, qui plus est lorsque le français n'est pas sa langue première.

[@Ann-Carol]

Brel, Brassens, Ferré, Barbara, Aznavour, vous avez très bon goût, l'aigle noir parlerai de l'inceste que Barbara aurait subi dans son enfance, c'est un chanson remplie de symbole.

[@squall046]

Ce sont des suggestions de personnes qui ont souscrit à son Patreon (plateforme payante sur laquelle on soumet des vidéos)... Ce n'est donc pas lui directement qui choisit les musiques mais bel et bien les souscripteurs!

[@Ann-Carol]

@@squall046 ah ok, je l'ignorais, merci pour l'info 😉

[@squall046]

@@Ann-Carol De rien ! En tout cas bien d'accord pour Brel, Brassens, Ferré, etc... Ça fait plaisir !

[@dantonen]

Friend there are 3 songs.

[@JeanlucPerez-u3g]

You right she s a legend. Gotingen IS a german city

[@maleficedark5060]

The g.o.a.t

[@pamartlaurent3393]

This song tells the story of incest that she experienced at the hands of her grandfather what nickname in the song the black eagle

[@ReactionsbyD]

sick - but I thought it was her father

[@jberlioz]

L’aigle noir est abscons comparé à « dis, quand reviendras-tu ? » kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5fHdqmCYpaVe6M

[@chrisgilla]

"Nantes" : la véritable histoire de la chanson kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaqxd6eka7WIbcU

[@robertjaget5742]

La ville de nante

[@MARIE-JOSEVILL]

A l'époque, interdit de parler de viol.

[@cleiophane2287]

There're three songs

[@robertjaget5742]

L aiglee noir a etait repris en anglais par une chanteuse americaine

[@uusulpaul]

Barbara "mon enfance" kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIKafquKd7qNpKc😉

[@uusulpaul]

Barbara "Nantes" kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIjKcoNopcSAmqc😉

[@lesfreresdelaquote1176]

Elle n'avait pas d'accent mais un voile sur la voix...

[@PIEbla84]

WW2, not WW1 ;)

[@morphilou]

it is song with double meaning ==> an American can't understand

[@fabianbrioult455]

This is a song about rape

[@fredcarcopino9253]

3 different songs and sadly the sound is not very good . could be nice to listen studio version

[@moutonb8918]

Ces versions sont vraiment pas ses meilleures, je la reconnais pas

[@Eliot0627]

La version de Gottingen interprètée par pomme est magnifique