Dune Part 2 | First Time Movie Reaction & Commentary

[@reactswithjax]

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[@ravensdark99]

We´ve got your back...even in Germany

[@sterben2476]

Would love for you to watch Dune: Prophecy, since you were interested in the Bene Geserit, and that show is all about them

[@richardscanlon4210]

Happy Birthday, love your channel. You should definitely read the Dune books.

[@Professor_Wisteria_]

happy channel birthday! i only recently got here but i basically binged everything you have on Marvel and some other one-offs and i love it here

[@tfpp1]

Happy birthday to your channel!!! 🥳

[@lanzknecht8599]

"I wrote the Dune series because I had this idea that charismatic leaders ought to come with a warning label on their forehead: "May be dangerous to your health." (Frank Herbert, author of the "Dune" saga)

[@reactswithjax]

What an insightful quote! Thanks for sharing the author's perspective when writing Dune.

[@woo1818]

And then he directly contradicted that with the golden path and Leto 2, which totally legitimized Paul’s place in history: a necessary step in the betterment of mankind.

[@CorwinPatrick]

@@woo1818 Not really. Necessary does not preclude Dangerous. Billions still died.

[@woo1818]

@ it was the only way to save the species 🤷‍♂️ Paul’s failure was in hesitating to take the golden path, but Leto did it and saved the species from its ancient defects. A necessary part of our evolution.

[@TheJerbol]

@@woo1818 did you miss the whole ending? The point of the golden path was to liberate humanity from prescience and thus future tyrants

[@GeraldH-ln4dv]

Frank Herbert was a journalist when he began writing. He spent 6 years researching various things before starting on Dune. He delved into ecology, desert biomes, the Arabic language, various religions, and more. His world building was unusually deep and complex for sci-fi in the 1960's. He was exploring themes of reliance upon a single resource (with spice as an analog for oil), prescience, leadership, government, politics, messiahs/charismatic leaders/chosen ones and ecology. That along with the amazing story and writing is why the book is considered a sci-fi masterpiece.

[@charleskramer1120]

also consider and remember that he was using the term "jihad" decades before it entered mainstream geopolitics. He was showing how religion and fanaticism could be used by a political leader to achieve less than holy ends. Seems he was forecasting the rise of some modern theocracies.

[@Phizzo4real]

Spot on!!! Nothing terrifies me more than "modern theocracies." Ppl laugh, but what religion has done to worsen the human condition needs to be a cautious study for generations. ​@@charleskramer1120

[@thenarrator1921]

My favorite part, and this is partly biased because I am a graduate of psychology, is that Carl Jung's archetypes are heavily weaved into the characters and the story (well, at least for the first like 3 books). For example, the sand worms are 'dragons that hoard treasure', Reverend Mother as a 'fairy god mother' of the evil sorts, Kwizats Haderach as the embodiment of perfection by accepting your male and female characteristics. I could go on and on, but if you tried you could easily see that it's a way more serious old Disney-esque story

[@whiterabbitchaser9045]

Lady Jessica to Chani “Think on it, Chani: that princess will have the name, yet she'll live as less than a concubine-never to know a moment of tenderness from the man to whom she's bound. While we, Chani, we who carry the name of concubine-history will call us wives.”

[@Mark-in8ju]

4:07 4:37 5:39 8:40 10:38 12:00 15:13 17:42 19:18 22:03 24:10 25:43 28:36 32:43 36:31 37:19 Yeet! 41:31 42:04 45:22 46:35

[@andyjames5429]

I felt they robbed that element of duty, sacrifice and compromise from the depth of chanis character and opted instead for the more pc and predictable 'strong independant women dont need no man' trope. shame

[@KozakXII]

@@andyjames5429you’re wrong. Denis changed Chani to make her be the voice of reason. She sees her people falling into fanaticism and that was always the intention of Paul’s story when Frank Herbert wrote the book. We see how bad things can get from her pov.

[@andyjames5429]

@ you may have a point but I see the intention of these characters as more stoic and less progressive. If youre right then there was probably a less cliche way to do that

[@Professor_Wisteria_]

this is the first movie in YEARS that i left the theater actually grinning. i went to watch it with my dad, because he's the one who read me the books when i was younger, and we were both basically giggling and kicking our feet the whole time in excitement and awe. the soundtrack and sound design alone shakes you to your bones, the framing and color choice used makes every shot look like a damn painting, and the actors all KILLED it, especially Timmy as Paul. that speech of his claim to be Lisan al-Gaib was POWERFUL. genuinely, one of if not the best movie experience i think ive ever had in my life.

[@Palaemon44]

I have the 4k disc set so I can watch them at home. I play them on an OLED TV and a Dolby Atmos sound system. When I first played the movies I had to run over to my subwoofer and crank the gain knob on the back down to half😅 Powerful sound is nice but power should only be used for good 👍

[@ElRealPetChicken]

awesome moment! i've only seen the movies but it motivated me to buy the books.

[@jcs1025]

It actually takes place much farther in the future than the movie would have you believe. 10,191 is on their current calendar of A.G or After Guild, meaning after the formation of the Spacing Guild. (Which gives you a clue as to how important the Spacing Guild is to this universe, and even more importantly, spice.) This is actually taking place about 23,000 to 25,000 years in our future, where even Earth has been mostly forgotten.

[@thomasluke-wp8or]

20:35 YES! FINALLY A REACTOR WHO UNDERSTANDS. Paul is NOT the hero of this story, the point of the book is to show how dangerous religious leaders can be. Most of the reactions to this show could genuinely be used in psychological studies of how Hitler initially gained followers The blue scarf does have significance but i dont remember what it was. Someone reply to this with the answer and ill edit the comment

[@Elios0000]

i means she is pregnant with male child in the books.

[@technofilejr3401]

@@Elios0000The director acknowledged the original meaning. But he said that whenever we see the blue scarf on Chani’s head it means she is in love with Paul. When she takes it off it means she doesn’t love him anymore.

[@michaelcence838]

In Fremen culture, blue scarf worn on the head means they’re taken, worn on the arm means they’re in mourning. It’s another symbolic example of Paul’s change in character, similar to his battle with Jamis in part 1 (‘Paul Atreides’ dies, Kwisatz Haderach / Muad’Dib rises)

[@rikk319]

@@lordminerva418 It's what Paul believes will be best, not actually guaranteed to be best. His forseeing can be wrong...he has no other person to compare his visions to, or discuss them with at the same level of understanding. I don't think a single person should be making decisions for all of humanity, and that's one of the problems with a messiah figure.

[@rauminen4167]

@@technofilejr3401 "means she doesn’t love him anymore." Yeah that makes zero effing sense. She's just doing the pouty entitled child thing many western woman nowadays think it's somehow OK to do. Chani should be smarter than that. I'm guessing the story will circle back to her finally understanding and accepting the situation once she gets hold of her emotions. (which, someone of Chani's caliber would have done immediately, but never mind)

[@meadmaker4525]

Denis Villeneuve did such a fantastic job with these movies, even though he made a few changes that didn't really follow the book. One of which was how things ended with Chani. After defeating Feyd Rautha and subjugating the emperor, Paul indeed claimed Princess Irulan's hand in marriage, thus sealing his ascendancy. But he made it clear at that time that Irulan would lead a barren, solitary life untouched and unloved by Paul, because although the histories would call Chani his concubine (like his mother was to Duke Leto), she was in fact his only love, his wife, and the mother of his children. Chani understood this and stood by Paul through it all.

[@uzul42]

I haven't read the books (yet). So my question is: Is there a character in the books who is as skeptical about Paul's intentions as the messiah and the blind faith of the Fremen as Chani is in the movies? Because I think it's important to have such a character to help the viewers understand that Paul is not a hero.

[@mikemaoudj4397]

​@uzul42 no Herbert didn't really have a character like that in the book, it isn't made apparent that Paul isn't the great hero until the second book Dune Messiah. Denis Vilanueve's third movie is supposed to cover what happens in Dune Messiah

[@rexwilliams7643]

​@uzul42 Paul is the hero but not one that should be followed. A person can be heroic but flawed......badly, such as Paul. He is a flawed, tragic hero in the mold of Hamlet.

[@Mark-in8ju]

4:07 4:37 5:39 8:40 10:38 12:00 15:13 17:42 19:18 22:03 24:10 25:43 28:36 32:43 36:31 37:19 Yeet! 41:31 42:04 45:22 46:35

[@CaptainRednose]

@@uzul42 In short, no. Not out loud. In the book, None of the Fremen questioned Paul's messianic role. Not even Chani. The Harkonnen and the other characters off-planet (besides of the Bene Gesserit Reverend Mother, Gaius Helen Mohiam), thought Paul was "only" a rebel leader Keep in mind: In both the movies and in the book, it wasn't until Paul's "Reverend Mother ceremony" to become the Kwisatz Haderach, that he started to act like a "messiah"... And by then, everyone around him (especially the Fedaykin) utterly believed that he was the "Lisan al Gaib" In the book, a careful reader can observe Paul's path to becoming a "Reluctant Hero", into an "Anti-Hero", then his downfall to becoming a "Messianic Villain"... In the movie, Chani is the "careful reader" for the moving-going audience. Which does break away from what Chani is supposed to be, in the book. --------- --------- (I apologize. This next part is quite long. And my points *may* sound vague and convoluted... but I don't want to completely spoil the books. Though, regrettably, what I'm about to explain, may be considered "soft" spoilers) --------- --------- - In the book, the destruction around Paul is told through the stories of the women in his life (Chani, Jessica, Irulan)... they are the supporting "voices" (through excerpts and inner monologue - telling the reader how to think about Paul) - The thing is, Irulan is supposed to be the "careful reader", not Chani. - Irulan is a historian and writer, and her many historical works are excerpted throughout the book. Even though the reader doesn't "see" her until the end, she writes the literary and historical interludes in every chapter. - Chani's character is the embodiment of tragedy (I can't say more without spoilers)... But in the movie, Chani's character is the embodiment of "disapproval"? - Throughout the book, Chani is a "bedrock of support" for Paul. **Because they were "functionally married" by the end of Paul's first year living with the Fremen.**... They completely loved each other, through and through. - At the end of the first book, Jessica realizes that her and Chani are kindred spirits; through similar and __shared__ tragedy. (sorry, I'm not going to spoil the reasons for Jessica's realization) - Also, instead of Chani's "bedrock support" for Paul's "Jihad"... Denis Villeneuve instead gives that to Jessica and Alia? That said, Denis quizzically kept Jessica's quiet "under-her-breath" criticisms (after Paul becomes the Kwisatz Haderach), and some of her "inner monologuing". As well as, some of Irulan's "historical" excerpts ... Which begs, why Denis Villeneuve didn't give Chani some of her inner thoughts of Paul in the movie? - Where is Chani’s story? Where are her feelings, and her wants? Where is the power that oppresses her, both internally and externally? - Without Chani's inner monologue, Denis Villeneuve made Chani more or less like Irulan... But, Irulan stays the same. - And to "Top it Off": Chani "walks away" from being part of Paul's "Messianic-Jihad-Cult-Empire"... as if she can "opt out" of the social and political forces that are around her. I hope this helps in understanding why some people are little **peeved** about Chani's "movie adaptation" ... **But I will say though, Chani has way more agency in the film.** Even with all the shortcomings of film adaptations, I still enjoy the Dune movies --------- --------- *((*- Hard Spoilers Ahead!! -*))* Chani is the daughter of Liet Kynes (Liet was working directly for Emperor Shaddam Corrino IV). She is fully aware of the politics around Paul marrying Irulan. Chani is not green to the political machinations of the empire.

[@cobbycaputo3332]

You asked about the blue scarf. When a Fremen woman wears a blue scarf, it means she is in a relationship.

[@reactswithjax]

Thank you! I love that they added in that detail.

[@angelostatie6170]

In the book, a blue scarf indicates a woman who has recently given birth. In the first book of the Dune saga, Chani and Paul actually had a son, who then died in the attack of Sietch Taber.

[@spyro257]

@@angelostatie6170 and that's why he's letting the baron rot in the desert...

[@DFAnton]

A lovely, dark thing to think about is that, since Paul sees that there is only a narrow set of choices that will lead to success, and he knows exactly which choices to make to succeed, he effectively has lost his free will. Every decision he makes, effectively, is with a gun to his and his loved ones' heads.

[@basedmase777]

This was something that I liked about reading the book after watching the movies. The themes are more abundant and more laid out (in a more coherent way imo). That might be an obvious statement to make but I've read books after watching movies and been very disappointed by them, Dune did not disappoint. Don't really like what they did to Chani's character in the movies after reading the book though. She feels like an actual person and not just an, in your face, antithesis kind of plot device like the movies make her. Though I understand why they did it

[@jmcman6104]

@@basedmase777Denis Villenueve said the change was to make it more obvious to the audience of the movie that none of this stuff is actually real, and really just an orchestration by the Bene Gesserit. It’s more clear in the book for sure which kinda goes with what you mentioned in your comment, so Chani was this different to try to make sure the audience doesn’t stop thinking about it through that lens since it’s so crucial to the story and themes of Dune.

[@Akaeus]

​@jmcman6104 drip feeding lore and ommiting some necessary exposition to then turn and emphasize the moral of the story by fundamentally changing characters - Jessica, Chani, Stilgar - just you can make it obvious to the audience was a dumb move.

[@randomgeneratedname6035]

This is exactly why i believe the small look away and then small look back Paul gives gurney before hes about to tell him the great houses wont honor the ascendancy is one of my favourite scenes, you can see it so subtly on his face that he knows he knows whats going to happen and that hes essentially powerless in stopping it even though he can technically see his own destiny

[@MrOvertoad]

The blue scarf is a call back to the books. In the books the time it took Paul and Chani to get to this point they had a child. The boy was killed in a Sadakar attack, and Chani wears it to show everyone she is romantically involved and has given birth to their child.

[@Heroo01]

Sardaukar

[@MrOvertoad]

@@Heroo01 Thanks, you're a good friend.

[@thenarrator1921]

One thing to note among many things: Paul does not see the past, he saw a version of a future where he has to talked to key people in the gathering and got key information about their lives. It's like Groundhog Day and Edge of Tomorrow, but without the reattempts. Just imagine how overwhelming that would be to a mind of a young teen instead of just literally knowing the past.

[@Robotic_Crafter]

The greatest science fiction epic ever made!! Religion, politics, power struggles, relationships, family drama...it's got it all.

[@ravensdark99]

I can identify because the movie and me both got worms in i..I´ve said too much already

[@NicholasMcClure]

The horrible paradox is, for Dune to become a Green Paradise, means the death of everything that made Fremen into the people they are. Every good, strong, noble thing about them will be lost. And Paul becomes the tyrant messiah he strove so hard to reject. The conclusion of this story (well, this part of the story) is going to be very interesting - and may not unfold in the way you think at all.

[@AntonAdelson]

Don't forget the death of the worms which means the death of Spice which means the death of space travel!

[@bernbsy]

By the end of Frank's series, the Fremen have become Museum Fremen.

[@bernbsy]

@@AntonAdelson But it never happens.

[@AntonAdelson]

@@bernbsy First of all, SPOILER WARNINGS! ... Second of all, it's been a while since I read the books but IIRC it was a very big concern... Isn't it why one of Paul's children becomes a worm himself? It's been a while...

[@bernbsy]

@@AntonAdelson i guess I need to put a SPOILER Warning too. From what I remember in Frank's series, even when Leto II becomes half worm and Arrakis has become verdant, he maintains a large area as desert called his sareer and there, the worms continue to thrive. In the last 2 books, great efforts are made by various groups to transplant worms on other planets but all fail. Only the BG succeed with the help of an Atreides who can control the worms (Leto II's genetic legacy) which is critical as Arrakis is eventually destroyed.

[@Chyll07]

yes! nice job. "..questioning who your idols are." that is a major theme of Dune by the author.

[@olddog330]

Frank Herbert said that charismatic leaders should have a warning label on their foreheads: May Be Hazardous to Your Health. Paul is not a hero.

[@i.870]

Its interesting that they say "if you drink *you shall die* if you drink you may see" as in death is guaranteed, even if its not physical who you were before you drank it is forever gone.

[@reactswithjax]

Oh, that is interesting!

[@rauminen4167]

Yes, when you gain access to ... only the God Emperor knows how many generations of people's memories, you won't be the old you ever again.

[@MarcoMM1]

Great reaction Jax like always. Important detail: When Feyd mentions he had a dream about the witch, she didn’t plant that in him. That was a clue he also has foresight in his dreams like Paul Edit: Also, Paul’s “May thy knife chip and shatter” wasn’t a callback to Duncan. It was a callback to Jamis who had his first kill in a duel against, as Jamis said to him. If you are wondering about the language there are several in this unvierse. The most widely spoken language in Dune is Galach. Galach is a fictional language created by Frank Herbert for Dune. It is a universal tongue derived from English and a number of Slavic languages. The secret language was spoken by the Sardaukar, fierce and elite soldiers of the Padishah Emperor. It was briefly spoken in the Dune movie from 2021. “Lisan al Gaib” is a Fremen term used for an off-world prophet or messiah. It may come from Arabic, “لسان الغيب,” (lisaan al-ghaib) meaning “tongue of the unseen/missing.” The Fremen used a language of the same name. It descended from Arabic and Chakobsa, which a tongue used by House Atreides as their battle language. The Fremen language resembles Arabic. The Fremen culture was also based by Herbert on historical Islam. Aw the relationship portrayed between Chani and Paul is different in the book, and so is the relationship with his mother.... I loved the movies though!! Such a different ending between them. Last paragraph in the book, “So you say now,” Chani said. She glanced across the room at the tall princess. “Do you know so little of my son?” Jessica whispered. “See that princess standing there, so haughty and confident: They say she has pretensions of a literary nature. Let us hope she finds solace in such things; she’ll have little else.” A bitter laugh escaped Jessica. “Think on it, Chani: that princess will have the name, yet she’ll live as less than a concubine-never to know a moment of tenderness from the man to whom she’s bound. While we, Chani, we who carry the name of concubine-history will call us wives.” Marriage is for political purposes...Chani becomes his concubine. In the books Jessica tells Chani that history will call them wife, as Jessica was concubine to Duke Leto I. Remember, he foresees that Chani will come to understand. Remember in all of his visions the two main people he saw were Chani and Jamis before taking the water of life and called upon him from the afterlife in the desert, as he was his guide in the desert to fremen, before they even met. Which means he was guiding Paul from the afterlife all along, even before Paul met and defeated him. Keep up the good work.

[@mamandes]

One of the big changes that Villeneuve made from the books is that Jessica is still pregnant by the end of the film. It still seems weird to me that everything we see Paul accomplish in this film happened in less than 9 months, not to mention that his relationship with Chani, Stilgar, and all the Fremen is less than a year old. Makes me curious what differences we're going to see in the next movie, especially given that Chani isn't with Paul any more (another big change from the books).

[@Marvelfan-nu7ve]

I mean I get why he made that change, it would be a big ask for the audience to accept that an infant has the maturity of an adult. Though I think not have Leto dies during the attack was a miss opportunity as I see that as the main reason why Paul accept his fate and start the jihad. Chani was an interesting one, at first I wasn’t fully onboard with it but I understand why he changed her because he really wanted to sell home that Paul wasn’t the hero or at least a true Hollywood hero. Personally I have to wait to see messiah to really judge that change. Paul did say that she come to understand so she could be by his side when messiah start.

[@Akaeus]

As a film, I love this movie... as a Dune adaptation it fails only because they make Jessica, Stilgar, Gurney and especially Chani externalizations of Paul's inner struggles, so it turns all of them into mere shadows of thier original characters. This was done to hit the audience over the head with "Paul isnt a Hero" so then the viewer is likely to view Paul as a villain instead. He is neither -- and he is more of an anti-hero who is the only one can see the fates of all humanity. Frank Herbert warned against charismatic leaders and messianic figures because they are dangerous -- for good or for bad.

[@jgaringan]

34:37 the flying creatures the Harkonnens are burning up are a form of carrier pigeons; she was likely left behind to maintain communications between sietches until the last possible minute.

[@OneKillQuota]

Love your reaction! A lot of people have been parroting the idea that Paul isn't a hero, likely based on Denis' statement that this is the case. However, I think his character is much more interesting than that, and this can be found on a video interview with Frank Herbert you can view here on KZbin. He states, and I paraphrase, "Paul is a leader for all of the right reasons, and none of the wrong ones." To me, those are very much the kind of characteristics you would call a "hero". But that's why Paul is so much more interesting. Paul is hesitant to become The Messiah. And even when he does, he tries to align his leadership in a way that supports his own survival and desires (revenge) with the benefit of the Fremen fighting for their freedom. The real issue is that Paul is a tragic hero. Nothing that he does within the context of the existence he was born into, will ever NOT lead to immense death and destruction. He is the pinnacle of a Bene Gesserit eugenics program. And the warning that everyone states that Frank Herbert was alluding to is more complicated when your leader is a GOOD person. Because the warning isn't necessarily that the LEADER is the problem, but that the power structure that builds beneath the leader attracts the corruptible. Additionally, when the followers believe so blindly, the leader becomes a slave to the myth of themselves. So much so that if they stray from that myth, the followers will oust them as a false prophet. Which they even talk about in this movie...it leads to the death of Paul and Lady Jessica. So Paul is hesitant because he knows that jumping into that role will effectively enslave him to the myth that the Bene Gesserit have propagated over generations. He'll be playing into the very hands he was trying desperately to avoid. But what does he do? What could he do? The real amazing part of this movie is that his love of Chani informs almost his every decision. Everything he does is to do whatever he can to save her. The one thing Chani loves more than Paul...is her people. Paul was willing to stay and likely die to protect Chani and the Fremen. It wasn't until he was informed that none of the Fremen will leave without him, and he's confronted with the fact that now his love, and her love, will both die if he doesn't concede and go south. It will be very interesting to see how Denis tries to tie up the deviations from the book. Aria not being born and Chani being so skeptical.

[@hbarz1066]

"Send them to paradise" is maybe the most chilling and heartbreaking line of the whole movie. Both in the way Paul says it, and how everyone around him reacts to it.

[@OldRod99]

It's not really explained in the movies, but when riding a worm, they use the hooks not only to stay on the back of the worm. They also use them to pull back the scale-rings and expose the flesh underneath. The sand irritates the skin and causes the worm to turn away from the irritation, so they can "steer" the worm by pulling scales back

[@eastcoastj]

The reason they don’t just fly everywhere in the desert is because anti-gravity uses the same “Holtzman” technology as the shields which attracts the worms and drives them into a killing frenzy. But since the worms were already coming they could use it.

[@sebd9690]

The holtzman effect is a bit of lore that Villeneuve poorly explained. Either that it attract the worms or that any laser hitting a shield produce a nuclear explosion

[@UberMcFailsauce]

I always found Dunes relationship with Islam pretty interesting because in the text of the story you can tell that there is a level of respect for the faith but Frank Herbert was also deeply critical of organized religion as a whole, messianic and prophetic figures especially so.

[@Bro-bi_Wan_Kenobi]

I love how Stilgar is Paul's very effective hypeman the entire time throughout this movie. Javier Bardem was great as Stilgar.

[@king_supreme1102]

Most reactors tend to think that Feyd only fights drugged opponents. But that’s not really what’s happening. This whole fight is staged for entertainment (they say a couple times it’s to celebrate Feyd’s birthday), Feyd is the na Baron (meaning next in line to be Baron). So they would never actually risk his life. This is basically just a propaganda fight where the Harkonnen royalty kills the last of the Atreides (their blood rivals). Feyd is actually a super skilled fighter, as he proves when he fights Paul.

[@paulalexandredumasseauvan2357]

almost forgot... HAPPY SECOND BIRTHDAY TO YOUR CHANNEL! 🥳🎉🙏♥😁 THANK YOU for giving us SO MANY GREAT TIMES!

[@reactswithjax]

Thank you so much!!! ❤🎉❤🎉

[@RocketSurgn_]

If you’ve not already heard from your Patreon, the Harkonnen world scenes were all filmed in Infrared, I love the creative choice. Their sun is a dwarf star that mostly emits in non-visible parts of the light spectrum so they treat it as sort of leeching the color from anything it touches, that’s why the scenes that transition between artificial light inside and outdoor light fade from color.

[@donatogressbautista4843]

Good reaction. BTW, you should also react to the 2000's Dune miniseries, which you can find it easily and freely on KZbin, that one is the most faithful adaptation of the book, so it would be interesting to compare it with the movies. And if you want to know what happened to the characters after the first story, you can react to its sequel "Children of Dune (2003)", since it adapts the second and third Dune books.

[@Vincent8190X]

Messiah was a bit boring, the book as well. But it was a great setup for Children. McAvoy did a great Leto II, as well as whoever played Ghanima and Alia. I can't see Alice Krige as anything other than the Borg Queen though.

[@rexmundi2986]

11:18 Stilgar going on here about the Lisan al-Gaib feels like it's right out of Monty Python's Life of Brian.

[@muhammedirfans4412]

3:31 “I can’t even whistle “ Proceeds to whistle 😂

[@reasonforge9997]

43:45 Carrying a flag or a banner helps keep your troops together. In the heat of combat its not always easy to tell where your allies are, and individuals and smaller groups of troops might end up separated from the main group and killed off.

[@outsidefactor]

What is free will to a person who can see the future? Do you really have a choice when you can always see the right answer? The Bene Gesserit were arrogant: they sought to create the Kwizatz Haderach, but assumed they could muzzle and control him (hence why they considered Feyd-Ruatha because they had a lever to control him), but they fundamentally misunderstood what they were seeking to create, the beginning of the Golden Path. In the end even Paul turned away from the Path, dooming his own son to walk it.

[@Wirmish]

Warner Bros. has confirmed that his next film will be coming out on December 18, 2026. Denis Villeneuve Says _‘Dune 3’_ Is _‘Not Like a Trilogy’_ and Will Be His Last _‘Dune’_ Movie: Other Directors Could Take Over So _‘I’m Not Closing the Door’._

[@MarkSleper]

Wow, Jacqueline, it strikes me so much that from all reactors who haven’t read the books, you are one who really picks up the most from the storylines envisioned in these movies. And you’re honest about things you don’t understand so much and do not make assumptions about these. That is a very pure way of dealing with such complex concepts and I applaud you for it. Dune Part 1 & Part 2 are just the first book, called Dune. The third movie will be Dune Messiah which is the title from the second book. I hope you’re going to read them because they are so rewarding to experience. Difficult, but rewarding. I love watching people experience these favorite movies of mine. It’s the second best thing besides experiencing them for the first time myself. Thank you so much for your reaction and your reverence for the material. Greetings from The Netherlands.

[@muldoone6920]

Let's all be honest here, Lambi's always the hero of the day. coming out to save us from fear

[@cookie1054]

“Do you know so little of my son?” Jessica whispered. “See that princess standing there, so haughty and confident. They say she has pretensions of a literary nature. Let us hope she finds solace in such things; she’ll have little else.” A bitter laugh escaped Jessica. “Think on it, Chani: that princess will have the name, yet she’ll live as less than a concubine-never to know a moment of tenderness from the man to whom she’s bound. While we, Chani, we who carry the name of concubine-history will call us wives.” How Dune really ended.

[@MrSiriusAB]

38:33 Yes, Jax! Had the same reaction!

[@UncleBurt72]

When Paul first road Shai-Hulud, the innocence of your worm riding comment was hilarious.

[@gromenbanks5954]

Frank Herbert took the idea of ​​communicating with whistles from the island of La Gomera, which is located in the Canary Islands. It is a tradition that began to become popular in the 16th century and is even taught in public schools today.

[@ispbrotherwolf]

I am old, read the first book when I was I was 16-17. Now I have the Litany against fear tattooed on my back. Arrakis is my world of learning.

[@ryanhampson673]

While Dune was written a decade before Star Wars a lot of people in part 1 tried to make the comparison of Paul to Luke, when in fact Paul is really Anakin.

[@jeremytrieloff]

This is the only series I've been thrilled to throw my money at with zero regrets since Lord of the Rings (not the Hobbit series). Theater views, releases on digital purchased, etc. This particular film had the best sound design I've heard since Saving Private Ryan. When I saw this in theater, I was definitely living and immersed in their world and it took me days to snap out of it. Paul's first worm ride scene was unforgetable. My seat was rumbling. This film is just amazing.

[@nazimelmardi]

To be honest if you want to know how this ends, you have to watch the mini series Children of Dune. (Besides reading the books) Denis planning Dune Messiah but not Children of Dune the 3rd book so that won’t be spoiled and even tho years will pass. Literally a decade if he changes his mind. So you can watch it.

[@yesdavenport]

Jax, our love. You can whistle! (“No one has to teach you how to whistle… you just think it here… and it comes out here…”) I was once cast as “The Music Man”… but nobody ever asked if I could whistle!? I could not; in fact I was so embarrassed that I could not whistle that I never told a soul… except maybe you…. “Nobody has to teach you how to whistle… “ 😂… you CAN whistle!! Jax, our beloved, if you needed to, you would. 😘 (And I say that from the perspective that you can already… saying “if you needed to you could”… weakens my message. “It’s the think system!!!”

[@ian3314]

Thanks for all your awesome videos and congrats on the 2 yrs!

[@guybenson3528]

In the Dune universe, there is a device called a suspensor that nullifies gravity. It is used to transport heavy objects, float, etc. Baron Harkonnen wears a suspensor harness to relieve his vast bulk. Duncan wore one during his hallway fight in the night time attack on the Atreides. It is a low-yield version of the Holtzman field effect that is also used in the "shields" people wear for protection.

[@andrimufid2195]

Firing the atomics straight into the Emperor's ship would have been the equivalent of a war crime under this universe's constitution; so instead, he aimed them at the barren land the Emperor's camp, which obviously still caused a lot of damage and accomplished what he needed it to. Basically just a legal loophole, so he can disrupt the Emperor's defences without being branded a war criminal. Paul said before that he needs the Emperor alive. It's about the legitimacy of his claim to the throne, that the emperor abdicades and he marries his daughter. Also, in the books he acknowledges that it's a very flimsy loophole that probably wouldn't fly normally, but notes that everyone will eagerly accept it, because to enforce the penalty means glassing Arrakis with atomics, which would destroy the Spice. So the loophole has multiple layers: The first is "I nuked terrain, not people"; the second is "If you still consider that a crime, enforcing the punishment means cutting your own throat."

[@lipgloss202]

What is great and makes it interesting is that nothing is only good. I hope you enjoy the books. The movies are a condensed version and you will get so much more from the books. I am so happy they made the movies visually stunning with great music and actors. Making a close up of Chani was fantastic.

[@kyleferguson5463]

I see this as similar to Eren from AOT …. When someone sees soo many pasts and futures they obviously have soo much information and soo many timelines that it’s overwhelming…. Also they then would do or say anything to ensure that the best outcome for who they care about comes to fruition even have that means they have to themselves have to play the role of the power hungry villain and sacrifice their lives so others can be heroes.

[@Mark-in8ju]

4:07 4:37 5:39 8:40 10:38 12:00 15:13 17:42 19:18 22:03 24:10 25:43 28:36 32:43 36:31 37:19 Yeet! 41:31 42:04 45:22 46:35

[@MrTjonke]

Bene Gesserit were the inspiration for the Jedi in Star Wars. Share some of their powers and also share their ethos of no love/hate etc.

[@wxgrad]

"... but maybe this will give me time to read the book." Waiting for the 3rd movie might be faster. LOL

[@colincreagan1035]

Hey Jax, I love your channel and enjoyed watching Dune along with you. Excited to see more

[@nickyarbrough8392]

"If I had a nickel for every time a quiet but intense and boyishly handsome 20-something discovered incredible, prophesied mystical powers on a sand planet and then used them to topple the establishment and install a galactic dictatorship, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice"

[@jevgenkova]

George Lucas ripped off Dune

[@nickyarbrough8392]

@@jevgenkova "Ripped off" is a little harsh, I think "was inspired by" is probably closer to the mark Dune is to science fiction what Lord of the Rings is to fantasy

[@Pokucollector]

Chani in the books vs th films is very different. She has a son with Paul. He is killed in the war, really sad. The love is even stronger in the book between Chani and Paul. She understands that Paul has a role as Emperor and needs to have a political marriage. She is totally contempt with Irulan in the books. Irulan is the jealous one in the books because Paul wants nothing to do with her personally. Paul gives his all to Chani and only beds with her.

[@Haselius00]

As @MarkSleper pointed out below, you are one of a handful of reactors that paid attention to the subtleties and implications of the plot and were able to infer the results of decisions made by the characters. Brava!

[@ispbrotherwolf]

BTW, the mouse Muad'dib, in the movie, the sound is from a red squirrel in Sweden recorded by Dani Connor Wild. An amazing photographic/ Sound graphic PERSON.

[@jonathanmurphy3141]

The "making of" on the Blu-ray, amid features, shows that there was a partial Lunar eclipse, when they filmed -the first battle. Filmed in Jordan and U.A.E. The Emperor's home was an estate in Italy. Most studio work was in Hungary. One scene filmed in Namibia, Southern Africa.

[@Knight-Bishop]

One of the things either barely touched on or entirely left out of adaptations is how this sort of Neo-Feudal empire came to be. To put it very simply, it grew out from extreme corporate oligarchy. I can't remember the timeline on everything, but similar to the Spacing Guild's monopoly on space travel, at some point all or most industrially monopolizing corporate cartels merged into a sort of super cartel, that controlled essentially everything except for interstellar travel itself. I can't remember what it stands for but it's called C.H.O.A.M., basically a universal mercantile super-monopoly. The Great Houses of the Landsraad, this "new" aristocracy of Dukes and Barons, and even the Emperor himself, are the descendents of families that became the largest shareholding members of CHOAM, the Emperor's being the largest. Corporate shareholders with so much power they literally own planets, war fleets, and have family nukes.

[@synkthestorm22]

Wow…it was SUCH a breath of fresh air to watch a reaction from someone who hasn’t even read the Books but still was perfectly able to pick up on Frank Herbert’s Themes of Imperialism, Fanaticism and to Notice Paul’s change, and that maybe we should not be super hyped about someone who promise “Paradise” to people…All they have to do is to serve as soldiers on a Genocidal HOLY WAR! and slaughter every one of his enemies all throughout The Galaxy 👀. When I started watching the first Reactions to Part 2 I was honestly shocked by the sheer number of Reactors that seem to be watching a totally different movie, seeing the ending as a straight up case of “Good Guy defeats Bad Guy”. Honestly, I was baffled 😅, I really didn’t expect it to be so hard to see how insidious it is to co-opt an entire culture and their religion, establish yourself as their Messiah, (or embrace their perception of it, even though you know it is nothing more than a fake, engineered Prophecy), and then use the faith of this people to fight a HOLY WAR in your name, basically worshipping you as their God. In fact, the fact that ,like, 90% of Reactors weren’t able to put it together the moment they heard the term “Holy War”…I don’t even know…I don’t think anyone has to have a Sociology degree to know in their Bones that any war, but specifically a “Holy” War should at least give you pause…Anyway, I loved your reaction! You are extremely perceptive and seemed to really engage with the Movie and it’s themes. I’m not kidding, I only found another 2 Reactors that understood the overall themes of the Movid and the tragedy of Paul’s journey here on KZbin, (I looked for it, trust me) 😂

[@nickthepostpunk5766]

Ultimate two morals if the story: (a) beware charismatic leaders, (b) be careful what you wish for … incredible interpretations of the original book!

[@jonathanmurphy3141]

At the very last page of the novel, Jessica says to Chani, that they will be known as concubines (political) yet history will know them both as Wife. That the movie Chani walks out to ride a worm, in emotional annoyance -it's a character aspect, to show, she is not happy,....yet Paul is doing the marriage to Irulan for political power, not love. There is at least one more film, with this team planned (six original novels)

[@Azabaxe80]

The eclipse at 4:30 was a real thing, not a CGI creation. It was happening at the location where they were shooting and Villeneuve was like _"Let's photograph this. We'll find somewhere to edit it in"_ . Happy accident.

[@constantdvdcollector]

‘Is her little baby okay?’ Oh, trust me, Alia is not okay. Nor will she be. Her baby has been awakened to full consciousness as a result of the Water of Life being taken by Jessica. Alia is basically a fully-formed adult in a child’s body. I have to admit, her only appearing as a fetus and a cameo by Anya Taylor-Joy was a bold move, especially given how important she is in the book.

[@paulalexandredumasseauvan2357]

thank you for a GREAT REACTION 😁 really enjoyed it! 👍☺

[@reactswithjax]

I'm so glad you enjoyed it!! ❤🎉

[@amansinghrajput9445]

For (SPIDER-MAN:NO WAY HOME) Must watch movies:- . Tobey (Spiderman 1,2&3) . Andrew (TASM 1&2) . Venom 1&2 . Spiderman into the SPIDERVERSE

[@AllTheBoatsTv]

The Bene Gesserit cross bloodlines, Jessica was meant to give birth to a girl, not Paul and most likely that girl would have been married off or been made feyd's concubine to continue trying to make "the right kwisatz haderach". So Paul and Feyd meeting one way or another was almost predestined.

[@herbertkeithmiller]

1:55 And the emperor said. It needs more cowbells. I already knew The story from the books so I wanted to be completely surprised by the story in the movie and the actors playing these roles. Anthony Walken was in the music video Weapons Of Choice where Dune was referenced; Walk without rhythm are you attract the worm. Knowing this I freaked out when I found out he was emperor

[@reactswithjax]

Hahaha! I had a good chuckle at that cowbell reference!

[@herbertkeithmiller]

​​@@reactswithjax40:42 blue is the colour of Love among the Freeman. It makes sense it's the color of water. By wearing the scarf Chni is declaring her love for Paul. You got the point of the movie, power corrupts. Do not trust your heroes. You're one of the few reactors to get that point. the Bene Gesserit made up the prophecy. In order to breed their Messiah They had to have people who could partially or only a little bit see the future. Those people wrote down the prophecies that led to Paul's ascendancy. Since I didn't see the future clearly they wrote it vaguely. They didn't say Paul would drink Chani's tears, they said he will drink from a desert spring, I want to bet you a lot of girls had that secret name. And so he could make the prophecy come true by making the predictions vague. With a little help from people who could actually see glimpses of the future. Faid could catch glimpses of the future. The prophecy and it's coming true was mostly manufactured

[@richardb6260]

Started watching your channel with Wednesday and have enjoyed it immensely. While you're a genuinely entertaining, not to mention beautiful, host, we all know the real star is Lamby. Hopefully success won't got to his head and he strikes out on his own. Because I don't know if the channel can survive his departure.

[@jmcman6104]

So the third Dune movie is going to adapt the second book, Dune: Messiah. I’m really interested to see peoples reactions to that, I think it’s really not gonna be what people are expecting.

[@anishbanerjee9311]

Jax, you have a lovely smile! Lots of love to you! ❤❤❤

[@MacFernor]

I think the most common misconception is that Paul is the hero of the story and a "good guy". There is no such thing. Just like in real life, everything comes in all shades of grey.

[@Giovanni_Gabrielli]

these films, and somewhat life itself from the words of Jamis keep whispering that life is not a struggle to keep it under your control, rather a flow, an experience to be witnessed, not necessarily being it's protagonist but it's catalyst.

[@rymarkk]

In the book, Paul was the one who had direct contact with his sister even over long distances, not his mother. Also, Chani was not such an independent feminist as they showed in the movie. But oh well, such times, which I suppose are slowly becoming a thing of the past, fortunately.

[@Chris-tp2sc]

The final movie is from the book Dune: Messiah. That book takes place many years AFTER the Holy War. And is a sort of thriller with a big conspiracy against Paul.

[@angelohernandez6060]

In the book Paul isn't really a "hero" type like they portrayed in this film. He's more like a quasi Hitler-Alexander mashup. He was better than the Harrkonens but you could still see the resemblance in character. Like dictators we know he was still using the indigenous people for his own gain and vengeance.

[@johnwong8146]

“No more terrible disaster could befall your people than for them to fall into the hands of a Hero.” - Frank Herbert

[@chrisw.5138]

7:42 38 million decaliters is 380 million liters. Since the human body is made up of 60% water, it means this water cemetery, Stilgar calls the 'well', should contain water from about 9-10 million adult individuals. In a steady Sietch population of about 10,000 and a death rate of 100 in a 1000 per year it would take at least 90k to 100k years to fill up this cemetery. Btw, in our society a mortality rate of about 10 or below in 1000 is normal. Since in the Dune universe humanity went to the stars not earlier then about 25k years ago, the water cemetery in Sietch Tabr can't possibly be filled only by dead humans' water. I guess therefore the 'well' - should be a natural source of water on the planet, the Fremen by burying their dead this way give back water to the source, the sacred well, which they would never drink from... This goes hard man...

[@TheRealBrotherGrimmy]

As much as I absolutely despise the 1984 film... I'd be really interested in seeing how you would compare the 2 renditions. They are wildly different. God the music for the Paul/Feyd fight is so incredible. Denis is a goddamn genius. "Well that's interesting, because the books back home I studied, the anthropologists say...." The look she gives him sent me into tears in the theater. It's like "Are you serious right now..? Are you actually for real?"

[@pyxl666]

Its so tragic because in Pt.1 Paul was so afraid of what he would do in the future and didn't want to become what he did

[@rnkelly36]

This is a huge franchise. This is just the first book. Their are 5 more by the author of Dune and 15 other books that people have varying opinions of. The story of Dune is very complex and the movie did a good job representing one of the stories but changed a number of things to make it more visually translatable. Chani is changed to give the viewer more of an example of what the author was trying to communicate about Paul. Because in the books people misunderstood the story about Paul so bad Herbert went on to write 5 more to explain why Paul is not the hero of the story.

[@kalakritistudios]

36:54 They are not Terrible. "They are BRRRUTTLE!"

[@arraymac227]

'Take off the little shield thing...' so, the Harkonnen listen to Jax....

[@diosnelfrica7589]

Ma'am you look classic Hollywood material

[@outsidefactor]

Dune does become a paradise, but the cost is very high. Paul saw a path by which he could survive, but it was created by grabbing the tiger by the tail: every day of survival cost s tide of blood. He created a warrior religion that he knew he would never truly control. Eventually he turned from the path, even though foresight told him what it would cost. I don't think there is a more tragic figure in all of Literature than Duncan Idaho, resurrected time and again, for thousands of years, to serve the grandson of his beloved Duke, only to realise Leto II had become a monster and then be killed over and over again by the same hands he pledged to serve. Duncan was a symbol, an effigy for the suffering the Golden Path caused, though in the end the Path was the only way to ensure the survival and liberation of the human race, causing and then dealing with the consequences of the Scattering.

[@drb6771]

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[@spyro257]

the flag is to see where your own people are, just as it was done in real life back in the day, on a battlefield, so that's VERY accurate... there's 23 Dune Books, the first 6 from Frank Herbert and the other 17 are from his 2 sons...

[@TheJerbol]

You literally can't run up to reset the scene, footprints of the cast/crew were one of the greatest hurdles for the cinematographer and director to overcome

[@jimbruton9482]

Great reaction! The real backstory of Dune is in the 1st book. The reason the universe is made of great houses that somewhat seem medieval is how they came to be. Artificial intelligence had reached a level that had for the most part controlled all humanity and eventually was rejected via a great war. Then the discovery of spice which allowed for the evolution of the spacing guild and its navigators... Well, it's best to read the book but a film of this part of the story would be equally as great.

[@KS-xk2so]

The Emperor was afraid of both the Atriedes and the Harkonen. He feared the Atreides because they were incredibly popular among the Great Houses AND because they had become known for training the finest warriors in all of the Empire. Part of the Emperor's claim to power is that he wielded the Sardukar, who for thousands of years were considered the most elite warriors in the galaxy... Atriedes were challenging that. It's part of why the Emperor had to loan his warriors to the Harkonen for the invasion, even vastly outnumbered and outgunned the Atriedes would've shredded through the Harkonen forces with ease, unless the Sardukar were there to even the scales out. He also feared the Harkonen, but for entirely different reasons. They'd ruled over Arrakis for decades at this point, which allowed them to become OBSENELY wealthy via trading Spice, far more so than any other Noble House. He feared either of these 2 Houses could challenge him, so he played on the millenia old fued between the 2 Houses to start up a war. By the end of it, the Atriedes are supposed to be extinct, AND the cost of the war to take back Arrakis will have basically bankrupt the Harkonen, removing both as a threat for centuries to come.

[@jamesweible5357]

I always felt like Paul was a mixture of Muhammed, Lawrence of Arabia, and feudal lords, with actual mysticism explained "scientifically". The underlying story of Dune is very interesting and one of the reasons why it's still so popular.

[@quoniam426]

To prevent detection and because they don't have many ressources to spare, the Fremen rarely use Ornithopters. Their only fast mean of transportation remains the worms... Harkonnen are perverts and cowards, so rigged gladiator matches are to be expected, although this time the Baron wanted to test his nephew a bit further, also to make him more legitimate as a future leader. Nobles from great families are usually probed by Bene Gesserit Sisters (and hypnotized to obey certain given commands, so the Bene Gesserit can take their seed to use their bloodline for the BG's own genetic breeding program. This is what Lady Margot Fenring did to Feyd Rautha. Chani was quite underdevelopped in the books. They made her the anchor for the audience here but it causes some continuity problems. The book stakes that Chani will remain Paul's favorite and that Princess Irulan will bare no children of his; nor share his bed...

[@brettmanus7904]

The blue scarf indicates the birth of the first child IIRC. The timeline of these movies is goofy, because Paul takes a couple years to stop sice production, etc. Yet somehow Alia still hasn't been born... 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@arraymac227]

Like May the 4th be with you, there's May the 9th chip and shatter. (In case I did not say that in Part 1's reaction.)

[@Feargal011]

The sacred water is part of a Fremen religious dream to terraform Arrakis to make it fit for human habitation. That dream goes back for decades and Kynes (Imperial Planetologist) predicted it would take 350 years even with shortcuts for Arrakis to be transformed. Frank Herbert dedicated the novel to dryland ecologists as ecological values are such an important part of the novel.

[@Obyredyll]

Well Paul at the end is not a hero but a future monster... and after 61 billions death in the Holy War ...

[@do0ranfrump260]

No one has ever tried to film beyond this point in the story.. it will be interesting to see what they do with it.

[@jonasfermefors]

Jax is better at prophecy than Drax. Nothing goes over her head, her reflexes are too fast. She would catch it!

[@reactswithjax]

Haha! What an amazing compliment!! 😂