The Winter Queen and the House of Hanover

[@KCFailsALot]

I find it kinda ironic how Elizabeth refused to learn German at first and then later her grandson refused to learn English when he became king lol

[@ReadingthePast]

Family tradition? 🤣

[@jasperhorace7147]

@@ReadingthePast Of stubbornness!

[@dfuher968]

At least, they were consistent 😋

[@deborahbranham-taylor6682]

As anyone who has traveled can tell you, it is extremely rude to not make an honest attempt to speak some of your host’s language, no matter now limited or poor. People just want you to respect and try to appreciate their culture. That she would not speak German is showing a grave lack of respect, and complete disregard for the people she and her husband were governing. Seriously, the nobility were trained to learn multiple languages, including Greek and Latin, so an extra language would not have been a hardship.

[@jameshalley9763]

I think her mother spoke Danish, so she probably spoke German.

[@DarkAngel459]

I'm the one who asked about a video on Elizabeth Stuart, The Winter Queen in the End Of Year Livestream, and was very excited to see this scheduled. I didn't expect it so quickly knowing how many topics Dr Kat has on her list! It's a shame I had to miss the Premiere. But thank you so much Dr Kat for this great video x

[@Thepourdeuxchanson]

There's nobody like Dr. Kat for ironing out complexities of ancestry, relationships, births, deaths, marriages, and consequences!

[@jasperhorace7147]

James I was sometimes referred to as, ‘the wisest fool in Christendom’. So many of the Stuarts seem to have had an overdose of intellect and an under dose of common sense and Elizabeth appears to be no exception. Like her brother she obviously believed in the divine right and felt she was so superior she didn’t need to make concessions such as learning her people’s language or tolerating their less strict but still Protestant religion.

[@AnnNunnally]

Is it true that George I did not speak English? That would be a turnabout to Elizabeth’s attitude.

[@dfuher968]

@@AnnNunnally Yes, George I famously refused to learn English. By all accounts he loathed England and would much rather have just stayed in Hannover and never have had to spend a single minute in England.

[@alanaw27]

He spent a great deal of time, when King, visiting Hanover.

[@Funnybriton]

She was chased out by Catholics

[@freedpeeb]

Huddled in my house watching a Canadian blizzard outside the window and immersed in your story of the Winter Queen, very fitting I think! What a life she lived, all those children and all the changes of fortune. I do hope she was happy.

[@marjakingma9440]

In 1982 I worked for the Council of State in the library which was housed in the little white palace in The Hague where the Winter king and Winter Queen lived during their exile. I never forgot that. I was thrilled to see her portrait in The Queen’s House in Greenwich in 1998, the year I moved to London.

[@PhilipStacey-f9t]

it isn't about you.

[@valeriebohince5306]

Wow! That puts a brighter light on the Hanoverians. Dr. Kat, I love your videos. I'll definitely re-watch your video on Sofia of Hanover. Watching from Maryland USA.🫖🙂

[@ea42455]

Excited to be watching in Kentucky. Always great to ready the weekend with a little culture.

[@kathyjohnson2043]

Hello from a Hoosier neighbor!

[@norriemcclure5927]

Fellow Kentuckian here!

[@CountessKitten]

I'm watching from Kentucky, too! Louisville, to be exact. Hope you're well, Kentucky neighbor.

[@kathyjohnson2043]

@@CountessKitten I'm just across the river. Isn't it wonderful how we can enjoy Kat from here!

[@shirleykathan-sayess5764]

I enjoy all of your videos! What got to me, was 17 pregnancies. How did they continue living after losing their children over and over again! It breaks my heart. ❤ Shirley

[@lisam5744]

I always wondered how the Hanoverians were connected to the English throne. Now I know. Simpler than I figured.

[@sarahwatts7152]

I think that's part of the story people like to tell - it's more interesting to say that the English had to do intense genealogies to make the succession work, rather than the truth.

[@jaybee4118]

@@sarahwatts7152 it’s simple with hindsight. First they had to go through all the others to see who was catholic or dead.

[@bobtaylor6585]

Elizabeth was the grand daughter of Mary Queen of Scots who herself a grand daughter of James the fourth of Scotland and Margaret Tudor a grand daughter of a Plantagenet king of England Edward the fourth . It seems natural from this time in history after the death of the winter queens direct descendant Elizabeth the second.

[@sophiarose7610]

Yeah, some people don’t understand when a daughter gets married her last name changed but she’s still related to her father.

[@mikalbell8125]

It sounds like the biggest problem with the succession is that it violated the rules of male primogeniture.

[@bbybella9937]

Elizabeth Stuart also very much idolized her godmother and namesake, Elizabeth I. She would sometimes pluck her hairline to imitate Elizabeth’s and was painted with a vivid red wig, dripping in jewels recognisably inherited from her godmother. She even practised her signature until it was almost indistinguishable from Elizabeth’s. It’s common theme with MQOS’s granddaughters or great granddaughters that most of them idolized or try to mimic Elizabeth, Mary II of England did and so did Queen Anne.

[@prettypic444]

I wonder if they did that to stabilize their reigns. having a successful female monarch to point to as an example goes a long way towards fighting period sexism. Queen Elizabeth I's interpretation during other British queen regent's rules would be an interesting topic for a video!

[@bbybella9937]

@@prettypic444 Hm maybe but the Stuarts in general very much idolized Elizabeth and her queen ship. They constantly referred back to her in times of trouble and took great pains to make links to her. Charles II did it when he took the throne. William and Mary promised to reign like Elizabeth when they were being sworn in, Queen Anne pretty much took every opportunity to compare herself with Elizabeth. She purposely used Elizabeth’s motto ‘always the same’ even.

[@Ronkyort0dox]

She cut off her grandma's head

[@bbybella9937]

@@Ronkyort0dox and? She clearly still liked Elizabeth.

[@alanaw27]

MaryQueen of Scots had read hair too. James I didn’t meet Queen Elizabeth I,she only named him her successor when she was dying, so Princess Elizabeth must have been told about her and seen paintings which made her wish to emulate the late English Queen.

[@ary7073]

Can’t wait for this ! Many greetings from Hannover, Dr. Kat!

[@ReadingthePast]

Fitting location! 😃

[@kathrynstemler6331]

Only a minute in but when you think of ‘over 50 people’ in today’s line of succession you get to Princess Alexandra, grand daughter of a king.

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[@MsJayteeListens]

I got taught this at primary school, it seems like that was unusual. We were taught about the kings and queens of Scotland from Kenneth McAlpin to Elizabeth II, including the Jacobite rebellions, and why the Hanoverian monarchs were chosen instead. Your videos are more interesting than my primary school teacher though. 😊 Sidenote: because I wasn’t great at English I didn’t do any Shakespeare, so I was in my late teens before I knew there was a play called MacBeth, I was only taught about the real person.

[@dfuher968]

Dont worry about that, Shakespeare was never even mentioned in my school. Ok, Im not from the UK, but still. I only knew of his existence through other sources, and I had to go to the local library to find a couple of works, which made our librarian very giddy, as she rushed down to the basement to rummage through decades of books, that were never checked out, and came back with 2 works, blowing off the dust and webs. It wasnt even any of his more famous works tho, I had to wait, until I was at college in a much larger town with a much larger library to find those!

[@sandismith4522]

That puts a whole new tilt on British history for an American who has a hard time keeping up with royal lineage. Thank you for making the history lesson so easy to understand.

[@susanbellefeuille]

Very interesting piece of history, what a tangled web is weaved.

[@ellynecrow4601]

Being of Bohemian descent, it was fascinating to learn about the Winter Queen. Bohemia was the name of the country, albeit then part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, from which my great-grandmother emigrated. Since nobody seems to know about Bohemia, I usually say I'm of Slavic descent.

[@tiffanywilsonkeesey4281]

You could say you're Czech or German-Czech. Bohemia mostly overlaps with today's Czech Republic.

[@Tiberiotertio]

@@tiffanywilsonkeesey4281 You could also say Böhmen und Mähren, my family is also from that part of the world.

[@williethomas5116]

It never astounds me how much Americans don't know about the world or their history.

[@irena4545]

Bohemia is merely an English shorthand for the Czech Kingdom, or the Lands of the Czech Crown, so stating that you are of Czech descent is fairly accurate. Well. Still might want to stick with "Slavic", though ;-)

[@Tiberiotertio]

@@irena4545 Sure and German is English right as it is called in German Böhmen und Mähren dumme Nuß!

[@morriganwitch]

Thank you for enabling me to make that leap xxx

[@jameshalley9763]

I first learned about the winter queen from tracing back up in my family tree. There was an ancestor listed who was supposed to be a daughter of Prince Maurice, who was a Pirate Prince along with his brother Prince Rupert. He was lost with his ship in a Caribbean hurricane. Supposed to be or not Maurice had a daughter, who was my ancestor, but there's no way to verify this of course. I read an interesting account of Prince Rupert in an online Canadian magazine about him and Ruperts Land, the lands that drained into Hudson Bay. Rupert was one of the absentee founders of the Hudson's Bay Company. Rupert was a real colorful character and probably made a lot of his family mad at him politically. The brothers were quite the warriors.

[@stephanietaylor8003]

Prince Rupert had a fascinating life, and yes at one time he and Maurice were pirates in the Caribbean, where Maurice was killed in a shipwreck near the Virgin Islands. Rupert had an illegitimate son and a daughter but I didn't know that Maurice did too, but hardly surprising. The princes weren't really suitable for the royal marriage market, having no lands, no money and not much in the way of royal connections. Bit like Daenerys Targaryen from Game of Thrones LOL. Beggar princes. But later in life Rupert became involved in the arts and science and was a founding member of the Royal Society.

[@elizabethrhone5516]

Dr. Kat, I just watched the Jane Boleyn documentary. Awesome to see you!

[@tinkeringinthailand8147]

I loved it Kat, thank you.

[@kevinashcroft2028]

A gem of a channel ; just the ticket for Tudor Elizabethan devotees - thanks👍

[@jared1870]

Missed you an hour and a half ago but hunger made me do it. Thank you for explaining how the Hanovarians came to power. As for royalty, I find the whole lot an amusing diversion, current royals excepted.

[@williethomas5116]

Thank u Dr Kat for bringing history to life for so many of us here in the states where education and history in particular are under attack and become politicized.

[@Kasiopea_a_Andromeda]

Fantastic 👏👌💐 thank you Kat 💕

[@12snac]

I loved the compassion in your thinking and voice when explaining Elizabeth’s marriage to Frederick. That personal introspective moment when you wondered what comfort she would have taken from her deceased brother’s advocacy for the union. Bravo!

[@jerricocke987]

I really enjoyed this particular video, I will say I recently saw one of my favorite historians on a TV show that was added to the Internet by history extra. I wonder who that could be.

[@jfs59nj]

I knew this history from reading fairly extensively YET nothing compares to Dr. Kat telling the history!!!

[@gabz9977]

This was fascinating Dr Kat

[@OkieJammer2736]

This is so interesting! Thanks for clarifying the descendancy, which is indeed, much more simple than I'd anticipated.

[@nickimontie]

Fascinating as always!

[@cecilyupdegraff2559]

This was wonderful. I was not aware how the Hanoverian line started, not having an interest in the “George’s (American and all that)in my younger years. I was a big fan of the Yorkist cause through to the Elizabethan age. You have definitely broadened my horizons! As always, thank you for a very fascinating dialog. Anyone interested in a what if session with Henry had he lived?

[@gaeylkanter4178]

I love history and it really shows how little has changed over the centuries . Thanks for sharing .

[@hayleyreeves8938]

Excited for this

[@j7333nnn]

FABULOUS, We love you, Cat !!

[@DarkAngel459]

Elizabeth had a relatively hard time; with her territorial ambitions coming to nothing, her beloved elder brother dying young, being somewhat betrayed by her younger brother, and her children turning against each other. I'd love to know what she thought about her grandson becoming King Of Britain. That's almost like a redemption for her story.

[@--enyo--]

Thank you for this video! It draws in a lot of continental European history that I'm very interested in as well.

[@bethwilliams4760]

This was very fascinating and helped to understand the succession of the Monarchy . Not only that, you also understood how Charles 1 and his sister Elizabeth were connected and how the Hanovers came about. Doing Sohpia and the Winter Queen for gits on HAD would be great.

[@morriganwitch]

Good Afternoon xxx

[@johnmclaughlin4817]

Great video! I really enjoy family histories. I always thought it odd that Elizabeth and Frederick would disobey her father.

[@rhiannonpoole6019]

I hugely appreciate the amount of work you put into these videos, thank you. Up till the 1600s, royal women seemed to have been used just as pawns, but maybe Elizabeth I managed to change all that. This Elizabeth seems to have had quite a mind of her own.

[@denisedick721]

Thanks for clearing that up.

[@Tiberiotertio]

That rennaisance garden in Heidelberg was also the down fall of the Heidelberg castle, because the French who attacked it came through the gardens. It was also this attack the reason why it never was rebuilt, as it was as of the citzens of Heidelberg to be a lasting memorial of the French attack. As Kaiser Wilhelm II wanted to rebuild it, but after this vote, he rebuild the castle Hochkönigsburg by Colmar in the Alsaction Region now-a-day France.

[@michaelturner6425]

Smashing presentation and very interesting.

[@k.schmidt2740]

As an America ex-pat who has lived in Hannover County for the last nearly 50 years, I really enjoyed your telling of this story! "We" often know about this connection, especially any of us who have lived in Celle for any length of time, but are often dismayed that the story is so little known in the wider European context. Thank you for the great lesson!

[@kaloarepo288]

There is also a town called Guelph in Ontario,Canada - the Guelphs are the dynasty to which the house of Hanover was a sub branch.

[@k.schmidt2740]

@@kaloarepo288 In German: "die Welfen"

[@kaloarepo288]

@@k.schmidt2740 As a person of Italian descent I like to remind people that the younger house of Welf originated in the town of Este in my region of the Veneto and the tomb of the very first Welf is at the front of the Vangadizza Abbey in the Polesine area,Later the Welfs moved to Germany -Weingarten Abbey contains many early Welf tombs.Later moved on to Bavaria and later still Brunswick etc.Finally to Hanover and Great Britain and Russia along the way.One Holy Roman emperor Otto IV was a Guelph and the connection with England started then.

[@amymahers2957]

Good morning/afternoon to you!

[@grahamthebaronhesketh.]

What a brilliant channel. Very interesting. Subscribed.

[@daylightstars3476]

Always glad to see you upload a video. Thanks

[@prettypic444]

I think a lot of people forget that a claim to the throne isn’t just about who has the best blood claim, but also who can gain the most support. Those 50+ plus people may have had a better blood claim, but they probably wouldn’t be able to gain support due to their catholicism. I think it’s interesting how we can start to see this anticatholicism in Elizabeth’s life with the failure of the gunpowder plot and the reaction to it (as well as the legitimacy issue in Elizabeth's family's disastrous attempt to rule bohemia)

[@jasperhorace7147]

Quite right, Mary Tudor’s brutal rule wasn’t completely forgotten, nor was James II rather foolish favouring of Catholics.

[@snufkinhollow318]

Thank you for this. I think the complex machinations of dynastic power and politics in Europe are often overlooked in favour of an exclusively national focus. While I'm commenting, I wanted to say that I have just watched Tracy Borman's documentary on Jane Rochford and it was a delight to suddenly see the familiar face of Dr Kat among more familiar faces from Tracy's programmes. I don't know when it was made but it has eluded my recommendations up until now. There are quite a few people in the comments section saying the same thing so they made a good choice asking you to be involved - not that I'm surprised - a respected academic, gifted educator and popular KZbinr is an obvious choice but I have to admit, it felt a bit like seeing a friend on TV and I'm not normally swept along with the idea that we know the people we watch and communicate with on KZbin/social media. All that said, I think your videos are just as good as anything on TV (and I don't have a TV so KZbin is invaluable to me a source for good history content) and your own Jane Rochford video was excellent.

[@s.h.741]

I'm reading right now Nancy Goldstone's Daughters of the Winter Queen, very interesting, too. I love your channel!

[@reganlandau]

Just love your style 💕

[@abriannaruiz]

I never get notifications for your channel even tho I’ve multiple times checked to see that I want “all” notifications and even unsubscribed and resubscribed to try to fix it. Idk. But I love your channel so much that I actively will check it to see if you posted a new video. I learn so much watching and listening.I had never heard of the winter queen but I did know if Sophia of Hanover.

[@ellenjackson3798]

I appreciate you so much. Your videos are always a fascination to the kids who come to visit. We have regular "Dr Kat" schedules. You are the best history teacher they/me could have.

[@catherineenglish9542]

I have always loved bios and history . This is everything.

[@maidaerdenhout]

Good Imformation, Thanks Cat

[@carlapena334]

I love listening to you. You are a great storyteller. Thank you for making these videos

[@wickedtess]

Oh! Dr. Kat on History Xtra! 😍😍😍

[@VetsrisAuguste]

Dr. Kat!! I unexpectedly spotted you on the History Xtra episode about Lady Rochford. When I saw you in the introductory montage, I knew it was going to be a good watch. I’ve been tuning in to Reading the Past for a few years now. I was a fan from the start, but as I watched in anticipation of your first appearance, I felt like I was about to watch my good friend out there on the big stage. Thank you for what you do.

[@fridayhunt7075]

Thank you for doing this!

[@SeldimSeen1]

I subscribed because I like you voice as a speaker. Protestant England made their choice and thus, according to English law, received a Hanoverian King.

[@vladimiramiller3738]

Loving your Chanel!!! ❤

[@Natalie_11188]

This was a good video! Thank you. Sophia of Hanover was quite fascinating in her own right. Could we get a video on her daughter in law, Sophia Dorothea of Brunswick-Lüneburg-Celle?

[@conemadam]

Now I know where the famous Nephew Rupert came from!! And that there is a direct line from the Stuarts to the Teutonic Hanovers. Somehow that is a little comfort. But I have always wondered how James ll ´s son, albeit a Catholic, would have fared. I have always felt sad that James ll was treated so poorly. I grew up having a soft spot for the Stuarts. Thank you again for filling in my blanks, Dr. Kat.😊😊

[@beverlyhenderson188]

Thanks

[@ReadingthePast]

Thank you 😊

[@nyckolaus]

Thank you, Dr. Kat!

[@Elvertaw]

Love this!!! I’ve never heard the Hanover connection explained so well. Thank you Dr Kat!!

[@carolineplanting6204]

Thanks Dr. Cat for this nice video. Although I already know how the connection between the two houses is, the video was very informatieve. I red the book of Nancy Goldstone "Daughters of the Winter Queen". This book is a easy to read narrative of this period. I red the book for the connection with the house of Orange, i am from the Netherlands.

[@TJTHEFOOTBALLPROPHET]

IT'S THE VOICE FOR ME ❤️ MUCH LOVE NEE ORLEANS!

[@aliencat11]

This was truely fascinating. Thank you.

[@jensvonbrasch1466]

Really well explained, thank you, and a pleasure to listen to. 🤗💐

[@happyfeetgal3879]

Thank you 😊 watching from Washington State. I enjoy your work.

[@joannshupe9333]

Ah Ha! There's the connection. Seems simple, the way only you can do it.

[@melstjohn3766]

Thank you Dr Kat this video was so interesting !

[@Rosedawn321]

Seriously, I find the number of children Queen Anne bore and buried to be absolutely heartbreaking.

[@debbiemckeown7626]

It is and the condition they believe she had can be treated now with aspirin to thin the blood to help her carry the children to term.

[@JulesGoldstein]

I would like to hear more of Elizabeth’s other children. Perhaps this is because I live in Minnesota which in part was once in Prince Rupert’s Land.

[@nataliegreco8987]

I’m so excited you did this video! I just read a book about her and I love the videos on the lesser known people of the early modern period! Awesome job as per usual!!

[@kimberlyperrotis8962]

Thanks for this video, I knew little about this princess.

[@jandavis1523]

Terrific vid, Dr Kat! I agree that the leap from the Stuarts to the Hanoverians was only a few generations-then not long after, 109+ years, the Victorian age began. Will be interesting to see how the current king and his son define their reigns in the post-Elizabethan era! I also think when one is a Royal, the thinking and planning for the family’s next steps is considered for the next 100-200 years, not the single generation as most of us common folks follow. 😊

[@susandodson1822]

Love your content

[@historybuff7491]

I think it is a sad story. But this lead to King George III. As an American, I can't be upset about that, because any other king may have found a way to work with our founding fathers, and we would not be a country. This was fun.

[@tiffystrangebirdbrown6844]

Excellent 👌

[@eshim3961]

Wow, another fascinating story I had never heard before, and as always, presented in such an engaging way. I think I found a new subject to read about. 😁

[@debbralehrman5957]

Thanks that was fairly simple. 😉

[@patriciahill6839]

Really interesting thank you

[@504CreoleCrystal]

I’m new to your channel and I’ve been binging all morning! I’m not sure how I got here but I’m here now lol

[@janicedowd3169]

Love your content❤🎉😮

[@isawa6649]

Thank you

[@gingersnap7822]

Are we going to get Reading the Past merch? Because I'd buy it in a heartbeat...

[@verenawagner3939]

Great Video. 😊 always great fun as a German to guess the German version of names e.g. Maurice = Moritz?

[@januarysson5633]

To illustrate just how weak the royal bloodline’s connection to the House of Stewart had become with the succession of the House of Hanover take into account that when Prince William becomes king he will be the first British monarch to be a descendant of Kings Charles I and Charles II. 4:25

[@jasperhorace7147]

On the wrong side of the blanket, though! He still gets his right to rule from Sophia.

[@johnguglielmini6658]

2 great videos in a row you are back in top form some time ago i suggested that you look into Henry the 8ths love life ie who he truly loved and the woman that could have been made Henrys queen but escaped that fate would Christina of Milan qualify as 1 answer to these questions?

[@ReadingthePast]

Hmm, I’m not sure if Henry had a true love, but I think Christina was certainly better off not finding out 😂

[@nobodysbaby5048]

His true love was his 3rd queen, the one that died after producing his one legit son.

[@kathleenmilligan5408]

John Donne wrote a beautiful poem regarding Elizabeth’s marriage.

[@KatieRae_AmidCrisis]

That thank you for unweaving this particular tangled web. Fascinating. To me, it serves as an illustration / reminder of what an utter load of bizarre nonsense male-preference primogeniture, and the whole institution of hereditary monarchy, is. In this day and age, more than ever.

[@jmeleedill]

Excellent video as always. Though the more I watch HAD, the more I think you can’t possibly be the same Kat 😉

[@theon9575]

English histories like this don't usually mention that the flight of the "the Winter King" Elector Palatine Frederik V and his wife Elizabeth for asylum to The Hague in 1621, was also to be significant in the history of the Dutch House of Orange. This was because their Court that fled with them included the noblewoman Amalia von Solms-Braunfels, who was to marry in The Hague Frederik-Hendrick, later-Stadhouder and Prince of Orange-Nassau, in 1625. As Princess Consort of Orange, Amalia had a strong, direct influence on the growth and political influence of that royal house, including brokering the marriage of her son, Willem II to the Princess Royal, daughter of Charles I of England - she was thus grandmother of King William III of England. Amalia also led development of the House of Orange and pushed for the Stadhoudership in The Hague to become an hereditary office, and she led the building of new palaces, including Huis ten Bosch where the King of the Netherlands lives to this day. Amalia von Solms is regarded as one of the most inflluential women in the history of the Dutch royal House of Orange, and this is relflected in the name Catherina-Amalia, known as Amalia, Princess of Orange, who is now the Dutch heir apparent. 🍊👍🏻

[@charlotteillustration5778]

It appears that Elizabeth had the same family trait as her brother Charles and nephew James - a stubbornness that proved fatal to her brother and saw her lose her husband’s kingdom through her refusal to adapt to the life she had married into, including the language. Charles was frequently criticised for his stubborn refusal to take advice that could have saved his life, and James, too, lost his kingdom for his stubborn adherence to the Catholic faith, despite knowing the consequences.

[@jasperhorace7147]

Charlotte, I’ve just written much the same thing. Too often our potential is limited by our personality or our beliefs.

[@drbuzzard518]

Do you have any comment about the fact that the late Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh and wife of Elizabeth II was a descendant of Sophia, Electress of Hanover and thus a British citizen by virtue of the Act of l70l (which included Sophia's descendants) yet he was not considered a citizen at the time of his marriage to then Princess Elizabeth and had to go thru all manner of issues while he was a citizen all along.

[@kaloarepo288]

Can't remember where I read it, but it might have been in C.V.Wedgewood's book "The Thirty Years War" but the Winter queen and her husband the Elector Palatine used to bathe naked in the river Vltava(aka the Moldau) the stream that goes through Prague.Must have intrigued their Bohemian subjects!

[@philliprichards9514]

Very interesting… you know Kat many years ago in a university in Sydney, Australia I found a little book that expounded on Elizabeths visit, on progress, to Dudley’s estate. It explained the many images and symbols he presented to her via large art installations etc. One I vaguely remember was a large statue in his pond that stated (via symbology) that she should marry him. It was fascinating… could you do something similar? Especially if you can track down that book and take us through some of the fascinating things there. Anyway this is the first time I’ve commented on one of your videos… I do enjoy them! 😌😁 Cheers Phil